>>54488798 good. while you're at it get the fuck back to reddit too where you can wallow in the hivemind of the popular consensus you fuck >>54488829 no, the people who separate the album belong on the left side
>>54488851 >while you're at it get the fuck back to reddit too where you can wallow in the hivemind of the popular consensus you are a cancer to music discussion. Nobody is allowed to have a different opinion then you because you are the special snowflake mommy always told you that you were. You are a coward. I will now post my opinion in every Death Grips thread because of you.
>>54488887 top kek, how fucking new are you cuckboy? >>54488925 nah m8, there are too many connections between both albums to rank them against each other. you're delusional (like most other faggots) if you think otherwise
>>54488958 There's also connections to their other albums. Let's just put their entire discography into a single album. >connections between both albums >albums Also good job calling them two separate albums dumb fuck.
Just goes to show how young you are and how new you are to this board. I have indeed been here 4 years, but refrain from posting in DG threads because of the awful side of their fanbase that you represent so well. I enjoy the banter, but it gets ridiculous when people with ego's as big as yours get involved and there is no way to get through. I am going to exit this thread and head back over to /biz/, peace.
>>54489028 Answer this question anon: Can you purchase Niggas On The Moon by itself? Can you purchase JD by itself?
I rest my case.
Just because its a "double album" doesnt mean they're fucking separate. Have you ever owned/listened to a double album before? Do you separate Swans' Soundtracks for the blinds into two different albums? no you fucking retard they're just disc 1 and disc 2
>>54488767 There's some truth in this graphic, but it's silly to suggest people who prefer TMS and Exmil are drones. Fantano and Pitchfork also gave rave reviews to NLDW and GP, respectively. Furthermore, JD would fall in the left column if we were being honest.
>>54489232 dont sperg over album tagging bro. don't you think the situation is flexible? this is the digital age, putting them out as two different albums is a conscious choice by DG, not because they needed 2 discs to fit one big album. for archival reasons it is one album, the powers that b, but here we're talking about personal feelings about the two EXTREMELY different sounds they have.
tldr you're a retard, everyone knows it's one album, no one cares.
>>54489232 I didn't say they were separate album. I said that it makes sense to split the album in two different parts (like it is) to rank each part. Of course you should still rank the album as a whole too.
Again I will state the only reason JD and NOTM are two parts of the same album are so that they could build hype for JD. And it fucking worked. It's a pretty genius marketing tactic when you think about it.
>>54489265 not the anon you were talking to, but honestly shut the fuck up... you're not proving shit by calling people cucks... plus you sound like some pretentious shit who only likes DG because "their only kinda popular but I like the shit that no one else does!", which is great, but a fucking album with more mass appeal means it appeals to more fucking people and doesn't mean it automatically sucks since you don't have to be a fucking autistic artfag to feel noided... now go no where, since no one wants you here
>>54489613 >melodic definitely. >guitar riifs yup. noisy riffs, but yup, >electronic noises are smoother and less abrasive than they've previously been. this is where you're wrong. this album is abrasive as hell. >turned off >why a bitch gotta lie >inanimate sensation >the powers that b >beyond alive also, the mixing and mastering screams abrasive. it's punk as hell.
>>54489342 Okay, JD isn't an album. But it is a release and a separate disc. When you hear it called an album just substitute those words instead and then you won't feel the need to get so mad over something so trivial.
>>54488557 people trump up exmil way too much. it was a great album but DG have pushed it in so many more interesting places since then, and polished their releases so much more. there's less dead weight on tptb than on exmil.
>>54489715 I honestly find NotM to be more abrasive yes, the mixing and mastering on JD are very punk and there's a lot of BWOOOOM sounds but the song structure of NotM is a lot more frenetic and challenging. with repeated listens JD will start to become less abrasive, just like Lightning Bolt does (for me). ultimately the songs are what is abrasive, not the sound.
>>54489639 top kek, first we had an anon who said TPTB isn't a 10/10 and then when someone asked him his AOTD he said Titus Andronicus' The Monitor... now the same thing happens and its Women's Public strain
these are the people who dont think TPTB is a 10/10
>>54489384 The fact that people I know, who consistently have told me that they can't get into Death Grips because it's too heavy or dark or something, have begun freaking out about this album is kinda proof that it's at the very least more accessible than most material since the money store
Of all of the pleasant things you could listen to, you people want to listen to some black dude screaming. Talk about pure masochism. You little brats need to get your anger out by getting a job at a fast food restaurants and AS FAST AS POSSIBLE YEAH YEAH FLIPPING THE FUCK OUT OF my hamburgers. When you pull beside me in your shitty cars blaring this shit, do you think I look over at you and I'm like "Wow, such patrician taste. That guy must be badass AND cool." No, I just think you're a dumbass. Death Grips is pretty much the shittiest "artist" of all time and if you like this garbage, you should be ashamed of yourself for being such a pathetic piece of shit.
>>54490393 I'm sorry your only context is /mu/ and your brain, but really, this album is not hard to get into. I still think it's incredible, but don't kid yourself and say it's not at least more accessible than NotM, NLDW, or GP. MORE accessible doesn't mean it's actually accessible you know
>>54493957 >Say you just happened upon these two albums. If Ride hadn't of screamed HAVE A SAD CUM BABY , then you'd have no idea that they had anything to do with each other. Is that really the only connection you can find between both albums? Because if so you need to stop contributing to discussions since you're unable to think critically.
Can we agree that NLDW is their best effort. Ignore the ARG shit, even though it was tasteful. Just based on musical content. I love Exmil, but the only one I consistently revisit is NLDW. It's fucking mystical.
>>54494820 well speaking about just fuck me out and pss pss, they're both told from the opposite perspective, submissive vs dominant. so its not JUST those two phrases/words its the entire fucking tracks. but thats already common knowledge and theres so many other connections between the albums.
i dont expect people like you who listen to music superficially (bro le musics sound diffearent xDD, no conneksion at all kakekek!!!) to be able to see those connections so i wont bother trying to converse with you
>Krautrock band has vocalist that just combines words that sound good together, sometimes they aren't even real words. >It's praised on /mu/ >Black guy in experimental hip hop group does it >SHIT LYRICS
>>54494641 >>54494804 NLDW is my favorite as well. It's funny because it was my most hated album at first, it just took me 10+ listens before I fell in love with it. Maybe the same will happen for TPTB
>>54489232 That's not even the same fucking thing. Do the two discs on Soundtracks for the Blind have different names and cover art? No. Were they released months apart? No. They literally just couldn't fit it on one CD.
>>54495535 >different names? yeah silver and copper you fuckwit. also the JD and NOTM covers aren't official covers of the actual full album, they're just what you see when you open up the discs to indicate which is which. this is done for the majority of double albums
>>54496051 TMS belongs at the bottom, so pleb is for sure. Think about it. Their second offering revoked all of the good things they had going for them in favor of poppier beats and lyrics that might get them a major record label, and then NLDW revoked that with a slap in the fucking face.
>>54495116 What is this Niggas on the Moon is their best CD meme? It's just like Gov't Plates, first half is great, second half is meh. Also anyone rating Exmilitary over TMS or NLDW is an ultimate pleb
The Money Store - 9.5 The Powers That Be - 9 No Love Deep Web - 8.75 Exmilitary - 8.5 Government Plates - 8 Fashion Week - 6.5
I think my rating system is fucked anyway but I rate albums based off two things; how they sound to me and how much of it I can listen to without skipping songs.
Every single Death Grips album I have skipped one or two songs. Exmilitary and No Love Deep Web have the least (like one) songs I skip and Government Plates has the most.
Personally, No Love Deep Web was the best to me. It managed to encapsulate the sound the group was trying to go for and they didn't really hold anything back (both a pro and a con)
However, with The Powers That B, I was hesitant as the songs they released as singles were, while incredibly fucking good, sonically in a different direction for them.
I can now say after listening to the album many times and waiting for the hype to die down in me a little bit, that The Powers That B is in, my opinion, Death Grips' best LP. It's like the group reviewed everything they've done until that point and combined it all into one amazing play.
Niggas on the Moon and Jenny Death together create some kind of typhoon of fuckery that can only be described as pure DG sound. There's anger, there's confusion, there's sadness, there's joy. I can listen to the entire thing through and still get hard because I slightly edited Big Dipper to carry its outro right into Break Mirrors With My Face. Once I listened to the entire thing together I knew the group had finally fucking done it. They made the music they always wanted to make. And that's why Jenny ends with Death Grips 2.0. It's a new era.
The Death Grips are a disposable teen angst band, like Rage Against the Machine, Tool, Marilyn Manson, Gangsta Rap, with the content to match. I can't tell if Ride wrote his own lyrics or if he outsourced their writing to a disillusioned and depressed 15 year old.
Hill's drumming is the only thing that saves the Death Grips from being a practical joke.
Though I get why they appeal to the children on this board. It's music that makes your mom say, "What are you listening to!" and that's why kids love them.
He's a good drummer. Remove Ride's adolescent angst and bad Slam Poetry delivery and Flatlander's "chopped up brostep with an edge (which has now incorporated Zeppelin style classic rock riffs...lol)" production, and they become listenable.
>>54497230 >Death Grips don't even have that much of Hill's wacky math rock drumming in their productions.
I basically implying that near silence is more listenable than the Death Grips.
I'll stop criticizing now, since I know these Gen-X relics are beloved by kids, and every teenager-to-early 20s kid has "that band" that speaks to them and connects with them when hormones and confusion are running wild, but in 10-15 years, the Death Grips will be a fun nostalgia listen for most of their fans, much like someone might throw on Marilyn Manson for a laugh to take them back to a time when they were young and dumb.
Death Grips are a great "teen angst" band and there's absolutely nothing wrong with loving them when you're 18 years old. Again, we all had that/those bands and groups, and we will like them forever because they connected with us at a specific time in life, even despite how silly they seem in later in life. Death Grips fit this mold.
But once you reach a certain age/mentality, abrasive, aggressive music that scares filled with "dark" lyrics that scares your mom becomes less and less appealing.
Disposable angst band that will be a nostalgia listen when you're 30.
>>54499358 >I think this is a bit more cringey than you realize.
Should I use more memes and "le buzzwords" then?
I gave the Death Grips credit for what they are. And they do it well (the teen angst thing), even if I do find it sad that a 37 year old writes lyrics that would be at home on some 16 year old's tumblr blog.
>>54499578 >just judging music on a really superficial level (DG is an angst band because the front man yells a lot).
No. I've read his lyrics, and they seem like something I might find in Eric Harris's (Columbine shooter) journal back in 1998. But yes, delivering his lyrics in a yelping slam poetry style doesn't help matters.
>You won't post your favorite band/artist because you know what you're doing is a really cheap trick and we could easily throw it back at you, no matter what your favorite was.
Criticizing "the greatest band of the generation!" is a cheap trick now? And what is listing my favorite artists so that you can pick them apart going to accomplish? How is relevant to the debate about the Death Grips being nothing more than a band for angsty teenagers?
Rarely can 16 year olds come up with and commit to a consistent cohesive theme and energy. Many factors go into DG's appeal and the lyrics are not the only focus. Satanic hood man playing a methed-up character in abrasive music was really a change music needed lately imo. Now just fuck off, unless you're gonna share your music fag. Lets see what you've got if DG is so shit bru.
>>54499812 >Rarely can 16 year olds come up with and commit to a consistent cohesive theme and energy.
No. Angsty 16 years are pretty cohesive and consistent when it comes to writing about their "pain" and darkness on their blogs no one reads or their personal journals.
"I live down the street from you've noticed me, I've never seen you Wonder what the fuck I do Listen up, you nosy bitch, listen close My most recent purchase, old black rope Gonna learn how to tie it, hang it in my chamber Perfect reminder, occult I'm made of Come try it out whenever you wanna Last night, 3:30 in the morning, Death on my front porch Can feel him itching to take me with him, hail death, fuck you waiting for Like a question no one mention, he turns around, hands me his weapon."
Truly amazing. The greatest lyricist of our time, dealing with such profound themes like suicide and mental illness with the kind of subtlety and complexity that would make Leonard Cohen envious.
And you conveniently ignore the rest of what I said, as if I'm arguing with a parent. Let me repeat for the child: Many factors go into DG's appeal and the lyrics are not the only focus. Their aesthetic(when I said theme and energy) is not limited to the lyrics alone, its the combined factors of the ADHD/glitch production style, the rapping topics being paranoia and internet shit, man, if you just don't WANT to like it, just fucking don't, you fucking dumbass.
Stop griping about fucking lyrics in music, you act like that is the entire point of music. DG expresses their ideas good enough, and the fact that some are so hastily done(or at least feels like) can add to artistic intention.
Since I'm not underage, Aphex Twin, Autechre, and Atari Teenage Riot were doing the whole Death Grips production aesthetic 20 years ago. And many "underground" rappers, like Dr. Octagon, Subtitle, etc covered Ride's themes when he was failing to make it as a painter, and they did so with much more wit and complexity than Ride could ever dream of.
The Death Grips are breaking no new ground. They're a one note angst band who've built a cute mythology for themselves through internet marketing gimmicks and social media games.
Like them to your heart's content. But let's not pretend their derivative "aesthetic" is anything we haven't seen before, and have already seen done much better. Well, maybe you haven't seen it done before since you're likely 18 years old.
>>54500821 I'm 22. It's just that sonically and stylistically, DG is just interesting. They're kind of LIKE the ones you listed, but not the same. Did you know you can like musicians similar to ones that you like better? Did you know that? Fuck. They just sound distinct. So it's cool that you are going through all this to tell people that a band they like is shit, but you know it doesn't work that way. Get a better hobby.
>>54500821 >Since I'm not underage Really? Since you sound like a 16 year old who just found /mu/ and are enlightened by all this hip underground music you've discovered and feel the need to belittle everything remotely popular.
You just wanted to namedrop Autechre and Octagon didn't you?
>>54501016 >It's just that sonically and stylistically, DG is just interesting.
That was a sincere response, and I appreciate that.
>Going through all this to tell people that a band they like is shit.
Not necessarily. I did say this:
>The Death Grips are a great teen angst band.
And there's nothing wrong with that. Many "teen angst bands/groups" are great listens.
I'm criticizing (this is a music discussion board after all) this notion that the Death Grips are this revolutionary outfit that releases nothing but 10s and we'll all look back in 20 years at how groundbreaking and influential they were. I don't buy it because what they're doing speaks to a specific mindset and age demographic (the whole angst, aggression, paranoia, "dark" aesthetic of their work) that just isn't appealing nor interesting to indulge in after you've grown out of that mentality. It really is music for kids (again, that doesn't mean it's "bad.")
That's not to say the Death Grips aren't highly fun to play at loud volume and move some air with your speakers, like good punk or rock, but I don't see much staying power for them with regard to their content. The Sex Pistols were once the most frightening group on the planet. Many years later, reviewers were referring to them as cartoons. Today John Lydon is more celebrated for his work with Public Image Ltd than his work with the Pistols.
Still doesn't mean the Pistols aren't great to listen to, but their content (lyrics, nihilistic attitude, etc) doesn't "hold up".
>>54501975 The Deegees have released more music in <5 years than most bands do in a decade. I think the time argument is horseshit.
Wanna know another band who released music quickly in a short time of span and was influential? The Beatles, the most influential artist or band in literally centuries, possibly in the history of our species.
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