Damn, this may be my favorite release of theirs since F#A#∞. The droning has purpose and this feels like their most sonically and musically dense record yet. I will have to listen some more though but right now I'm feeling
There's a stream m8
If you give me justification for your answer you won't be a drone.
They've been imitated so often this album just sounds like generic "post-rock" and had pretty much no emotional impact whatsoever on me. The whole thing was so formulaic and predictable, it's like they didn't even consider the fact that they could do anything slightly differently from past albums. That's just a first impression though, I don't think they've made an amazing album since LYSF
twenty minute songs are great if something is actually happening in the song. Anyways that is beyond the point. The songs on the new album aren't long. Just super generic sounding. If you think this is patrician then you are the five year old.
>tfw second part of Peasantry or 'Light! Inside of Light!
I'm very glad that you back, guys.
lol, perhaps if you don't find the album generic then the problem is with you and not me. I guess you haven't heard the hundred other bands that have albums that sound exactly like this. Don't blame me because I have..
Not even the guy. But it sounds to me that you're saying
>You don't have a negative opinion about this album.
>You don't listen to enough music to have a negative opinion about this album.
>I'm better than you because I have a negative opinion about this album and feel as though I've listened to enough music to legitimize my negative opinion.
So. Yeah. By the way, I'd love it if you could recommend me one hundred other albums that sound just like this.
Lol. Thought so. Alright, man. Was good arguing with you. For the record, this is the first GY!BE album that I wasn't in love with on first listen. So. Yeah. Not really disappointed though. I felt it coming on prior to its stream. So. Oh well. Whatever.
I am used to the sound of the We Have Signal recording so the last track felt a bit different - the main melodies in those climaxes are a bit lost in the wall of sound on the album and are not as easily discernible - although this may be a plus in later listenings. The drones were alright - first half of the second track is interesting and the third track is very suspenseful. First track is obviously great (the guitars in the last 2 mins sound a bit funky tho) and the last one is as energic as Mladic, but less sinister (some hopeful motifs here and there) and even noisier.
7/10 with potential for growth
To be fair, Swans do sound a little like Branca at times. After all, they were contemporaries in the no wave scene back in the eighties. Moreover, Lesson No. 1 seems to have been fairly influential on Gira's approach to composition. I'm this guy >>54573812 by the way. That said, I don't think anybody is ripping anybody off.
Not bait, GY!BE are moving away from lelcrescendos and focusing more on texture.
>is nobody allowed to be influenced by another artist?
It makes the babbies upset.
I figure it has to be. I listened to it, and it sounds alright. It's the best you're going to get right now though.
>Not bait, GY!BE are moving away from lelcrescendos and focusing more on texture.
That much is plain to see. Though, I think 'Allelujah delivered on both ends in almost equal measure. This outing definitely places the most emphasis on texture thus far in their discography. So. Fair enough.
On my first listen of it now. Definitely really like it - feels like it's expanding on the drone parts of ADBA. I don't know where I'd rank it with their other albums, and my ranking for their discography is always changing, but right now I'd say
LYSF > ADBA > f#a#- > Yanqui
With ASOD somewhere between LYSF and Yanqui.
What don't you guys like about ADBA? I've always thought that it was an improvement on most of what they'd done before it, it seemed like they really knew what direction they wanted the album to go in and that gave it a really cohesive sound.
>This is amazing.
Branca comes close to sounding like it at times, though I know for a fact that Gira was influenced by Ligeti when making SFTB, since I have read that in one of his interviews, even Helpless Child from Die Tür ist zu is named after him.
Godspeed are doing the same thing on this to a degree. They're all using the concept of Sound mass.
>Gira was influenced by Ligeti when making SFTB
I distinctly remember reading somewhere. But yeah, definitely, I can hear it. I'm really into this. I hope Godspeed really commit to this direction. I'd love to hear them make something to rival SFTB.
As someone who didn't get into Godspeed via /mu/ it just blows my mind hearing you guys talk about them. ADBA was one of their weakest releases but you dudes all talk about it like it's the shit
It's great. Mladic and We Drift Like Worried Fire are just phenomenal. The drone tracks bring it down for me. Back in 2012, as much as I enjoyed it, I still felt it was their weakest at the time. But with a discography like theirs. That really wasn't saying much. This album, on the other hand. I don't know. I feel as though it's a continuation of the sounds presented on 'Allelujah. But I feel that it's a lot less successful. I have to give it another couple of listens.
>I hope Godspeed really commit to this direction. I'd love to hear them make something to rival SFTB.
They're clearly influenced by classical music. I like their recent approach much better, it's noisier, harsher, and clearly influenced by Earth, but definitely sounds more complicated.
Not to mention that it's dripping with feedback.
I almost agree that the live versions were better. But I've just become so used to the studio recordings. I mean. In the three years since 'Allelujah's release, I've probably listened to those two songs about as much as I'd listened to their live versions in the ten years between Yanqui and 'Allelujah. So. Yeah. I've just become used to them.
Absolutely. My only hope is that if they should release another album in a few years or so. I just want it to be longer.
>tfw they got rid of the death march section on Gamelan
Hmm. Again, I almost agree. But I feel that they fleshed out the drone segments a lot more when they went to record it. And that's important to me.
Anyone know what kind of guitar effects are being used at around 3:30 on the first track? (I know the answer is probably "a shit-ton of them", but still)
I kind of prefer Kveikur. As well as that album that one band Silent Whale Becomes a Dream released back in 2011 or something. But yeah, otherwise. Agreed.
Pretty much this.
It's painfully obvious that LYSF was their peak, and there has been a gradual decline since. They wrote no new tracks during their 7 year hiatus. Now they're just releasing albums to keep Constellation afloat.
>listening to stream earlier
>decide to light up a joint for Piss Crowns Are Trebled because everyone keeps hyping it
>mfw the second half of the song
Kveikur was great, I don't know what you're on about. Probably taking the shittiest bait in the world right now, but whatever.
I don't know. I don't really care though either.
>Solstafir are pretty good.
Fuck yeah, man.
Am I the only one who is glad that the collage style is gone? I fucking love Skinny Fists and f#a# but I think that while the collage concept seems like an endless well of creative possibilities at first glance, they would rather sooner than later start to get predictable and static (pun not intended). The world has too many bands that didn't evolve after their first breakout record. It's better to try rather than be scared of being unpopular.
I think this record is great, it's starting to grow on me fast.
Am i the only one who really loved Lambs Breath?
Their first 2 releases > LYSF.
Maybe i'm just biased because F#A# was my introduction to them and it changed the way i looked at music, but still.
Oh I was there early for both shows. I think maybe they were really stressed about and/or focused on the Coachella show. They were on-fucking-point both nights though. I will never forget that performance of World Police and Friendly Fire. Life changing.
Saw A Silver Mt. Zion and they were really talkative during the show but left as soon as it ended. They're fucking hippy communists, kept telling us to ask them questions and it was pretty much a leftist circlejerk with some alright music.
While I do agree that nothing they've done as of late tops LYSF or F#A#, I definitely like the direction they're going. The loud, powerful sounds really hits a sweet spot in my ears.
That said, the first listen has me longing for more. The drone tracks were stellar (I'm really digging the Earth influences) but the full songs were like huge explosions of feedback and distortion with little room for rest, not that I dislike the bombardment of sounds but it's always been a pleasant feeling for me when they drop off into silence after their monumental crescendos. Going to give it a few more listens when I'm in the right mind set, and hopefully there are better quality versions out here soon.
Still a 7.5/10 for me, with potential.
Dude, my art teacher in middle school on the first day was playing Motherfucker=Redeemer Pt. 2 on his speaker when I walked in. It was, to me, literally the perfect introduction.
It took until halfway throught he last song for me to not have a disappointed look. It feel like Mt Zion is now the sounds of Godspeed that I love, and Godspeed is the droney sounds that dont interest me. I'm fine with this I'm just more invested in Zion now i guess
I definitely need to give it a full on listening with little distractions. Maybe give it more thought that the whole album is one song rather than separate tracks.
the hype behind Piss Crowns are Trebled had me a little anxious through the rest of the album to hear that particular piece. But like I said there's definitely potential for growth as I've only listened to it once.
I always thought that early Zion was very GYBE-y but since then it got very different, punkrock-ish even. Definitely not getting Godspeed vibe from Fuck Off Get Free We Pour Light on Everything, maybe except for some themes on What We Loved Was Not Enough.
Capitalism cannot exist without the State. This is not debatable.
Markets =! Capitalism
If ancaps actually identified as market anarchists a la Kevin Carson, I wouldn't have a problem.
Will you stop saying "this is not debatable" to try and shut me down? Jesus fuck, I can't stand talking to leftists.
Capitalism simply means people own the means for production (capital goods). You can own things so long as you can defend them, and you don't need government to defend your belongings.
Good album, but probably their weakest release (which still puts it miles ahead of most other post-rock).
It's like ADBA with a lot of the energy and power sucked out of it, but I will concede that these drones are better. For the record, I think ADBA is their best release not called LYSF or F#A#. That album has an almost punk rock feel and it does everything that Yanqui should have done.
If anyone is interested in some relatively old-Godspeed-esque sounding post-rock, check out this band.
I mean, I'm not sure if you've ever heard "drone music" before, but it kind of does what it says on the tin bud.
Maybe try songs longer than 5 minutes when you graduate high school? I'm sure that could help.
Any hope for FLAC or comparable quality recording yet?
Interesting, it's the opposite for me - I have trouble with Motherfucker=Redeemer and find 09-15-00 probably even better than Rockets
I just feel like 09-15-00 is a little..forgettable. Idk, maybe I just havent listened enough. For M=R the first half isn't that spectacular, yeah, but after it explodes out and starts twisting and turning (where Albini's production really shines) if just gets better and better for me. I love the way it sombrely ends out with a slow, thoughtful bassline and then segways into part 2, the groove on that is just so good. And then it all just crashes together and gets sucked into a vortex and the album is over, its a far better closer for me than, dare I say, Antennas to Heaven which personally (aside from the first 5 minutes) never clicked for me.
>didn't Gira play with Branca for a while too?
Yes he did, and so did Thurston/Lee of Sonic Youth.
Seeing how Sonic Youth were influenced by Branca is also cool, because of him they started using all sorts of modal tunings on their guitars, and used fabricated/modified guitars the way Branca did.
I think this is the most positive and joyful album they've ever released. ADBA was almost entirely negative, but they've switched it around and now there's a happiness and hopefulness behind every note.
Was kind of hoping that the end of Piss Crowns didn't have another higher level they could take it to in the last couple of minutes, but overall I'm pretty impressed. Very excited to see them in a couple of weeks
They have a bit of a history. Only GYBE interview I've ever seen was on The Guardian when they released ADBA
Ya I'm only on my second listen, but I'm sure the drone tracks will get a little more interesting. Not a big drone fan anyway
That would make for an arguable 9.5/10
I agree in that it sounds really monolithic and grand, I definitely prefer Lambs to Asunder. I wish there could have been more of a transitional phrase between the tracks though you know?
This is why they need to make another double album. With such a short album, everything needs to be top tier for it to be great. On a longer album there can be some leeway. Hopefully they have some new material lined up for their upcoming tour.
I agree. Still nothing compares to the drones on LYSFLATH or Infinity.
I think the middle tracks are some of the most interesting drones they have done, specifically Lambs' Breath. I don't even care if it goes on too long, it's very enjoyable to me. I like all the tracks
Lamb's Breath even sounds downright eerie, I don't think they've done anything that sounds like it.
Agree on Antennaes To Heaven, it's otherworldly beautiful.
I disagree that about the whole "longer albums are excused to have some underwhelming moments" but they should definitely do another double album next. It gives them much more space to create
Lamb's breath is kinda growing on me on third listen, and the drones are quality, but I still can't handle Asunder. It's pretty much skipable to me
>TFW they will never make another song like motherfucker = redeemer