>work on shoegaze EP for months
>release it, post link of facebook
>no-one notices, only comment says 'wtf is this noise'
>22 plays in a month
>guy from work shittily records himself playing a Hans Zimmer piece on keyboard
>100+ likes, everyone raving about his talent
it probably sounds autistic but this fucking hurts
the way I deal with it is just to have fun with the music and not take it too seriously, then sales and figures dont matter that much. One guy bought an EP me and my friend made and we were fucking ecstatic.
>Expects anyone to take such a shitty genre seriously
>Implying your friend playing a Hans Zimmer cover isn't better than even the best shoegaze album
Fuck off, OP.
>spend an hour doing a 1 minute remix of a Team Fortress 2 song
>gets 6000 plays, hundreds of likes, reaches the download limit
>spend months crafting a 20 minute 6 song progressive/symphonic/psychedelic EP
>gets no more than 250 plays and no likes
if you're writing it for the public and not yourself, you're doing it wrong. I've released about 7 eps, they're on a bandcamp, I got like 4 downloads a month, and I distribute 2 tapes a week at my local salvation army. If someone finds it that's cool.
if not, I'm still happy with the product without outside comments
Nobody takes time to listen to music on their facebook feed, especially if its something they don't recognize.
Also, you're going about it all wrong, YOU should be enjoying the music instead of worrying what your friends think of it.
Also, theres a possiblity that its shit like other people said.
I mean... what did you expect, OP?
Shoegaze isn't exactly a "go to" genre for most people. Plus, as others have said, this is pretty static in contrast to working on this for "months."
Maybe I'm just not into the whole "ambient" thing but I just think I needs something to stand out... either polyrhythms or interplay between melodies
but then again, if you're enjoying with what you're making stick with it
its really not that bad, kind of boring but I appreciate the effort you seem to have put into it.
Don't get discouraged, make something better next time.
not great, but not bad either
would download and listen to while playing vidya/10
also mad props for sharing, dude. most people wouldn't be willing to.
whatever happens i recommend you keep working on it. you might not get recognized immediately but if you give up on it, then no one will ever know about it
It's definitely not noise but it's too ambient to get attention that easily, and it isn't exactly accessible to anyone. It's still pretty cool, though, but also pretty predictable.
People have to spend years understanding marketing and music advertisement. Those same people spend an even longer time building an audience and creating at a loss.
>waaaaaaah, my talent should shine though!
Your borderline decent music isn't going to go viral after posting it once for your 200 Facebook friends.
i mean as in he directly upped the vid to facebook and it has his name and face in it.
even if it's shitty, it still feels pretty bad to be ignored completely you know. this thread was more of an anonymous complaint than a 'look at me' kind of thing. i have nowhere else to spout my feelings.
>until i'm good i'm gonna stick to not releasing stuff.
Have fun never being good, then. Putting your stuff out there, no matter what art, is how you get better.
If you shy away from criticism until you produce what YOU think is "better," you're setting yourself up for a pretty hefty disappointment.
The lesson of this that I think we can all learn is if you want to attract plebs to your music then you damn well better make a video because that's what their TV addled brains respond to.
Well this confused me, theres nothing harsh or noisy there, it is relaxing and I like the vocals. If you were expecting your fb friends to like it, you were up to being dissapointed, but I don't get the “wtf is this noise" comment.
Also, I wouldnt call it shoegaze, it is... New Age?
what you really should do is make a Bandcamp and upload your shit there
then share yourself in Bandcamp threads on here
eventually some number of people will like your stuff and start sharing it around and recommending it
Criticism will only make his music blander as he tries to please more people. The best music is usually the stuff an artist releases at the beginning of their career before the success and feedback. Like the anon who mocked his trap drums, I say OP should add some tubas and a drop to the crescendo and let his creativity be unhindered by the need to conform to an established 25 year old genre.
That's not necessarily true. You still have to be selective to criticism (for instance, I don't produce music, so what the fuck do I personally know about production?). But to remain entirely blind from any and all forms of it is completely counter-intuitive.
OP already posted his stuff publicly to his Facebook, so he was obviously looking for some sort of commentary or feedback.
There's a HUGE difference between acknowledging criticism and completely pandering to it.
Yes that one.
>hurr durr I use reverb I shoegaze now.
As far as I'm concerned shoegaze wasn't even that much of a real genre, it was a stupid term applied to several different-sounding bands at the time in England.
>release a song that becomes cluttered with comments of people saying it's absolutely amazing
>one guy even made an account just to tell me it was a masterpiece
>only 1,000 plays in 3 months
I legitimately think I have good songs, but it's so hard to get them out there.
I understand your good intentions, but this statement is heavily flawed.
>Criticism will only make his music blander as he tries to please more people.
There are many ways to take criticism well and this is not one of them. The only response worse than this is quitting at the first sign of it.
>The best music is usually the stuff an artist releases at the beginning of their career before the success and feedback.
I'm not saying this can't be the case, but it's not the case most of the time. A lot of the time, the "first" stuff you here is the first the artist decided to material after 5-6 years of working through a developmental stage that includes criticism.
> Like the anon who mocked his trap drums, I say OP should add some tubas and a drop to the crescendo and let his creativity be unhindered by the need to conform to an established 25 year old genre.
Your intention is well-meaning, but just because someone doesn't care for an element that feels out of place doesn't mean they're implying that the artist should conform.
Sure. I'm just saying that being open to feedback and criticism doesn't inherently mean you're trying to "please" more people. Obviously, OP or any producer should be making whatever the hell they desire, but to me, it seems silly to put yourself out there and then get butthurt because the reaction wasn't "positive" enough.
That's exactly what I plan on doing. Considering my local music scene, my music will absolutely stand out so I don't think it'll be hard getting noticed. I just need to find people willing to play a bastardized form of Japanese noise pop with me.