Industrial, EBM Witch House, Goth, Darkwave, Death Rock, etc.
I know it's metal but i've been digging this album recently
The real question is: new 3TEETH release fucking when?
Who did you listen to? Try ...And Oceans or The Kovenant, they're black metal cyber metal. Did you listen to Sybreed? Can't say I could see where the metalcore comparison comes in but they're the best known and my favorite.
Had a classmate about ten years ago who was really into that "genre". His favorite was Celldweller which I thought of more as nu-metal
A listened to a lot of sybreed but couldn't get into it,The kovenant is actually pretty good.I think I listened to some Illidiance too,I barely remember the band that I listened to honestly cause it was like 5 years ago.
But yeah I listened to a lot of Sybreed
I spent a good portion of my late teens and early twenties hanging out in smoky rock'n'roll bars wearing goth-inflected rockabilly gear and decorating my room with glow in the dark skulls so this thread is right up my alley, thanks
What ever happened to actual goth rock? Not talking about le wrong generation shit just what the hell happened, it's like it fell off the face of the earth in the mid 90s. I suppose ever genre only has exposure for so long, still it sucks that one of my favorite types of music is a completely dead scene.
Idk man. Seems like innovation within the genre is dead, and the newer bands don't get popular because of the fact. Maybe it took the niche as far as it could go and burned out. Oh well. At least we can still appreciate it.
I'll grant you there aren't labels full of bands that all sound totally different anymore, but there are quite a few good self-published bands doing crossover stuff and rearranging all the cliches and occasionally coming across something different that still fits.
As a musician, I've struggled a lot with this very thing, and pretty much everybody I've talked to about it has said they want to hear new music that sounds old, and it's more important to them as an audience that the bands are into it and play well and have a good visual element than that they invent totally new sounds. I say whatever and roll with it.
It does have a certain gothic to it. Burned out houses in big empty pastures, kinda mournful local music, everybody smokes, everybody's kind of living in the ashes of the old south.
Idk man. I come from a comparable sized town in Wisconsin, and all we have is fucking metalcore, thrash, death metal, and dadrock bands. Is there actually a goth music scene there?
Yes there is. The town is a little over a quarter million, there are about nine bands closer to town than the closest big cities, and depending on how specialized they are they draw 40-120 people a night. We have a regular monthly goth night with a mix of bands and DJs, then one-off showcases about once a month on average. It's not a huge scene, but it's fairly healthy and growing right now.
Glad to hear it's still a thing
The local goth night where I am gradually turned into an emo and nu-metal nostalgia night
I still go sometimes and it's fun but nowadays it's mostly people in their late 20s trying to regain the emo look and attitude they had as teens. The set list altered accordingly.
Wow! In Kentucky no less? I'm jelly, here the aforementioned diy scene is just the same group of like 30 people circlejerking each other. I want to be part of it but it's like I'd have to start my own damn scene just to get on my feet. You're not too bad off, bud.
That came and went here. The leftovers became like a separate post punk scene. I go to their shows when I can and will see maybe two or three of the same people I see at our shows.
I damn near started ours single-handedly. There was nothing going on for about a decade here, we had a pretty decent punk scene and it died off and all the big guys went to bigger cities around, my band and another gothy band started up about the same time a couple of years ago, we played the old punk bars until a couple of DJs came to me, I found us a bar to do monthly nights, that lasted about a year, they did well enough that pretty much all the non-college bars around here got interested, now we're pretty much set on venues. It took some work and a lot of love.
Some real awful shit being posted here, cheesy industrial rock and hot topic-core.
If you're really /dark/ experts, could you rec me some more essential goth bands?
Already listened to The Cure, SoM, Siouxsie, Bauhaus, Christian Death, Alien Sex Fiend, Mephisto Walz, Red Temple Spirits, and The Creatures.
If possible something similar to the doom and style of Pornography.
Strap on Halo played in my town once at a now defunct venue. Haven't heard that name in a while.
Also I notice Fields of the Nephilim, Danse Society, and The Mission (UK) aren't in your list.
Some of these are really recent. Interesting.
I've forgotten about these, thanks.
Very recent stuff too, will check it out.
No I haven't. Although I consider myself a goth fan, i'm still pretty entry level on some stuff.
The very small handful of other twenty something goth/dark music fans I know are either batshit conspiracy theorists or hardcore social justice warriors. Not like your run of the mill college feminist activist types, but people who turn nearly everything into an angry, comically over the top politically correct rant straight out of a Portlandia skit
Sorry to hear that. Most of our scene here is a little left leaning and mostly older than twenty something, but they don't let it get in the way of things like it sounds like yours do. Feel like I should have some kind of advice for you or something, but that just sucks and I'm sorry you have to put up with it.
Anyone else here fucking hate The Cult?
Their hard rock transition was literally the most pathetic thing to happen to a /dark/ band ever.
I tried listening to Love, but even there the hard rock influences were really present. It sucks.
I feel like Ministry's transition was worse
I think I saw them billed on a festival flier for an event featuring a bunch of second-rate nu-metal bands that everyone I knew mocked even as teens
Late Ministry was a fun show though. Saw them in a midsized venue on the Rio Grande Blood tour. Not nearly as loud as I was expecting, but plenty loud, very agreeable crowd, RevCo opened, so no mall children really attracted. Ministry played plenty of late 80s-present stuff if I remember right, just not quite into the more new wave stuff.
I enjoyed seeing Al Jourgensen trash his fans over social media a little while back
Yeah he can be like that. He didn't really seem to be happy to be at that particular show either, but still gave a good performance, then promptly fucked off to get drunk without hanging out with anybody.
when goth experiments
got any goth jazz or goth country? would be interesting
Give me an edgier /dark/ song
>names of serial killers over a shit-tier hypno-beat
get a fucking life you moron
Oh... you guys are serious...well then:
It was a trendy thing to do at the time. I can't really think of a band on a decent sized label during the 80s that didn't swear not to be /dark/ and claim to hate the goth/weird kids. Andrew Eldritch was probably the worst about it.
lel, and SoM is another band that like I mentioned on >>54827015 that went completely shit.
What do this idiots have in mind when they go hard rock?
They should follow Rozz Williams example: instead of going mainstream with stadium-rock type shit, go further inacessible with industrial/noise elements.
Can't speak for every band this has happened to, but I really think in the case of Sisters it was protesting being labeled a little too hard. I can still get into Vision Thing, but I'd never see them live just from all I've heard about how douchey the man can be. He's walked out on sold out shows and fired supporting bands because he didn't like the way the audience/performers were dressed.
Pretty much just named all the neofolk bands worth anything. Everything else gets too cheesy or should be called martial industrial (Les Joyaux de la Princesse, for example).
Is anyone here into Soror Dolorosa? I love this album.
There are other good neofolk bands but there is a lot of bad bands too. Stormfågel, Strydwolf, Forseti, Sonne Hagal, Jännerwein, Solblot, Varunna, Weh, Havnatt, Fräkmündt, Roma Amor are some interesting bands.
Stormfågel and its influence from Swedish folk music and bands like Skinny Puppy is very obvious, not at all a Di6 clone. Strydwolf has some interesting stuff like Ljocht! which nothing sounds similar to. Forseti and Sonne Hagal are classics and perfect the German neofolk style which has influenced some of the Scandinavian bands starting to emerge. Jännerwein is very new and their next album is going to be the shit, they have some excellent songs and a couple decent albums. Solblot is very sturm und drang and has some excellent harmonies, their music also fits the Swedish poetry it is set to (like Stormfågel) absolutely perfectly. Varunna perfects martial element of acoustic neofolk. Weh's newest album is great, their older work has a few good songs too, and everything Havnatt has done is minimalist and beautiful and obviously with the influence of classical training. Fräkmündt is traditional Alpine folk mixed with neofolk. Roma Amor is neofolk mixed with at times chanson (obvious Jacques Brel influences) and also dark cabaret, similar influences to Rome but a very different end result.
Another good band from the scene (and also a band that Douglas P loves, iirc) is Spiritual Front, but they're more experimental rock with neofolk and goth influences.
There are plenty of great innovative neofolk bands, you just have to look past all the Death in June clones.
I'm currently obsessed with C93's Nature Unveiled, the mix between the choral parts, the dark ambiance, the noisy loops and the vocal work is just amazing.
Can anybody rec anything similar? Already familiar with Tibet's catalog.
You seem pretty knowledgeable on the subject. Great post.
What a fucking insufferable cunt, SoM's current incarnation deserves to be irrelevant.
K, then find me some 19 minute long suite with a religious-like choral work talking about demons while drowned in noise.
Already familiar with TG, PTV, SPK, Coil, NWW, E. Neubauten, C. Voltaire, Monte Cazazza, Foetus, Z'EV, Clock DVA, 23 Skidoo.
Nothing, only heard C93, DI6 and Sol Invictus. Pretty entry level on neofolk.
Cool, but I always thought Maldoror was a demon or an evil entity of some sort. I guess you're refering to the verses where (i think) he says "the sun went black, the moon is ??"
In one interview he gave he said Nature Unveiled was basically a concept album about the Christian apocalypse.
Those lyrics are straight from Revelation:
In Les Chants de Maldoror the titular character is.. a thing. It's definitely evil. He was apparently gonna name his kid Maldoror but whoever he was with apparently aborted him/her.
Hence the "MALDOROR IS DEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD" chants.
That's actually pretty sad. I wonder if having a child would have made an impact on his music.
I was commenting here the other day about how stupid I feel when I enjoy an artist's music but cannot grasp the references of his lyrics.
This is cool, but my favorite thing about NU was its chorus elements. Especially the beginning of Ach Golgotha.