I DO actually like K-pop. It depends on the song. Would I actually post/discuss it in any of the K-pop generals? Hell to the fucking no! They don't talk about music there. They would rather talk about their dicks and various bodily fluids going on to said Kpop idols. I'm not here for that.
>>54919757 When you're as completely obsessed with asian culture as many weeaboos are, you start to unironically appreciate the music and start to become attracted to the women. I mean it IS "pop" music which means it's "popular" in their country which means a LOT of people in that culture like that music.
It makes me wonder if people on 2chan are saying "Does anyone unironically listen to american music? that shit is unbearable"
>>54920773 well yeah but most of the time mods are lenient enough that "on-topics" may also include cumming on idols, what you're eating right now, video games, erping, politics, sports and all sorts of other crap
I won't ever understand the obsession with Korean girls, or even Asian girls in general for that matter
Then again I'm Korean.
K-Pop feels like it's been stagnant for years, mostly because it's tried nothing really groundbreaking and creative, preferring to stick with what sells, which is a young plasticface with a good image and looks who has decent enough of a singing voice to be saved by auto-tune. It's kind of telling when creative stuff like acapella or reggae don't do half as well as the more flashy, cheap things.
>>54921117 Just using a different concept or than cute or sexy, sets off Netizens. Example Crayon pop. I saw them and though they were funny, cute, and somebody mentioned they look kinda like monoclover. I saw the resemblance, but thought nothing of it. But, of course Netizen then started accusing Crayon Pop of Plagiarising them. Not inspired, not coping, but straight up plagiarising them. Unless they're taking actually songs, they is absolutely no need to utter that verb. You can't copyright concepts, if that's the case all the sexy, cute and tough groups need to sue each other. I'm really glad they stuck with their quirky concept and went 'whole hog' into Power rangers territory. Another example is when GG did the 60's mod flight attendant 'concept', they also got 'plagiarism' pointed their way, because of mod photographs they were the inspiration for. Like what? I'm surprised every creative person in Korean isn't afraid of being inspired by things, lest they catch the ira of netizens.
( is the verb for 'to copy' and 'to plagiarise' the same in Korean?)
I just wish the K-Entertainment industry didnt place soooo much emphasis on the opinions of netizens. They have so much power and its scary, I mean look at the Tablo situation.
>>54919604 I like kpop. Mostly SNSD but other groups too. Gee is still the song I listen frequently, same with Genie and their other stuff because they are good. Not to mention SNSD First Japanese album and Love and Peace album. Most of them aren't even that pretty but kpop is shallow. It relies heavily on the members, dances and the visuals but even without all that I can still listen to it and enjoy it alongside other music every day of my life
The cucks that actually post in the Kpop thread are pathetic. They're all a bunch of weeaboo Asian fetishist who couldn't attract a woman of their own race and for some reason they think a Korean woman might be attracted to them, which wouldn't happen so they'll just be stuck with their wiafu pillows for the rest of their lives. Go in the thread and call them Asian fetishist or weebs. They get so fucking butthurt that it's ridicidulous. Kpop threads should not be allowed on /mu/
>>54921695 The irony being that because of that they decide to be inspired by things that have been done to death to avoid said ire.
(There isn't really a commonly used word for "plagiarize" as far as I know. Most people use 복사 or 따라 - copy and follow, respectively - though I suppose 모방 - one of the words for imitate - is also used a little bit. I haven't seen 표절, the official translation for plagiarize, being used too often, but I stay away from the netizens, so that might explain that.)
Definitely. I detest the mindset that "popular is good", which is yet another thing that drives me away from K-pop. Literally everything they do is to stroke netizen opeenions.
>>54921284 >that and kpop general are full of the most dedicated autist shitposters the board has ever seen Have you been to the SNSD General over at /hr/? Now THAT is dedication and a wall of shitposts that are autistic as fuck but from time to time they have good discussions and the voice of reason takes over but not for long
>>54922598 They don't even try to explain why members leave the group. It's been months and we still don't know what happened between Jessica and the rest of the Girls along with SM. Is it because SM thinks that the fans are not wothy of the truth or are they hiding the reason to preserve the bad feeling from them?
>>54922233 >>Someone hated netizen mentality as much as I do.
Thank you based, Anon. I was just thinking how cool it would be to have a Nu-jazz, Acid-jazz house pop girl group, with the clean and consistent visuals of Perfume meets Roisin Murphy. That would be something new and original. But, we all know how K-netz would react.
Japan seems a lot more free when it comes to this type of thing. Look at Polysics they are straight up inspired by Devo and you can definitely tell! From the fashion to the sound. Devo have their head domes, polysics have their orange jumpsuits and straight black visors.
Another reason why I'm not into Kpop anymore, it's how it warps your perception of beauty. People go from seeing an average person to an ugly one, if their face doesn't fit the very narrow vision of >pale face >V line chin >face small, like a fist >large eyes >small narrow nose
It's really sad to see, even more so when netizen opinion actually effect the idols themselves, how many lines they did, how many shots they get in front of the camera, CF deals.
What happens to the esteem of the one considered ' the unpopular/ugly one' in the group?
I've seen discovered netizens also have an effect on Kdramas. Kdramas are wrote and shot as they go, with netizens giving feedback in forums. It's all well and good to have feedback from your audience, but you shouldn't be a slave to it. (I'm remembering now that Korean actress that got 'blacklisted ' from the industry after boarding a plan to a different country during filming, because she was ridiculously overworked.)
Is this why Kdrama have so many common tropes now, they are seen as cliches and easy to parody?
I.e- Nice poor girl and douche rich guy?
Thanks, for the info on the verbs. I wonder if translators just use the official word for 'to plagiarise'? Looks like it.
>>54923173 After all this time, I still don't understand why people say Hyo is 'ugly'. She's pretty. All the members of Girl's Generation are pretty. I really ABHOR the need fans and anti-fans have when it comes to ranking groups and members in groups.
>>54923075 Hot dang, I'd love a group like that. Would probably become the one thing I'd check K-pop for. Too bad, though, that it'll probably never happen.
Yeah, that's all thanks of the whole conformity-by-playing-it-safe thing. Because that's what people want to see, that's what the industry delivers, and from that, people get used to seeing it and want to see more. It's sickening, toxic even, but it won't stop for the foreseeable future.
Crud, I didn't even know that about the dramas. Seriously? Ew, no. That just goes into the point of pampering the netizens all over again.
I'd imagine that's why Korean media in general is just full to the brim of stereotypes, actually. Everything I've seen, be it music, their comedy shows (and by that I mean weekly shows where they take the same skits with the hit buzzwords and change them slightly over and over again), even their gaming (absolutely atrocious, but I won't get into it) industry just tries its darnest to appeal to people by using what they're already used to. It's basically legalized state-wide conditioning.
>>54923257 Hyo is aware that most people think she is not pretty, she is aware that she is not all that relevant. I mean, she was surprised when the fans in France named her the prettiest member, same happened when some guy chose her instead of Yoona to be his date or some shit. In a recent show with Yuri, Tiff and Hyo, Tiff just outright said to Hyo to be more confident in herself. Not to mention that several members wanted to be Hyo if they had to choose because despite all that bullshit, she is still able to keep the rest of the group smiling when the time gets tough
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