>>55278777 Yeah, when you start thinking about mortgages and 401ks, some stuff loses its appeal and makes you cringe to watch others have no self-awareness of. Not bad at the time, but you shouldn't spend your life trying to recapture a moment instead of making new ones.
honestly, Boards of Canada and other boring downtempo/ambient artists like Helios, Secede, Eluvium and Hammock Was super into that stuff when I was 16, I think Geogaddi and MHTRTC are the only albums of that style I can listen to now
>emo/pop-punk It started sounding really shallow and insincere. >rap People who want to listen to brutal violence and depressing hood shit they can't even relate to while smoking weed helped kill it. Skits get old fast and weren't even funny the first time. >most metal and hardcore I just don't have that edgyness and energy anymore. >visual kei >marilyn manson >EDM
I didn't really start listening to music seriously until I was 17 so there's not much I was actually into on any level to grow out of, just things I had passed onto me.
>>55278705 i used to really love coheed and cambria, but find them borderline unlistenable now. admittedly i still listen to a lot of the other bands i was listening to around the same time (mastodon, deftones and the mars volta mainly)
>>55279265 Maybe I just live in a place where the music culture is terrible (Utah), but I had the worst tastes at 16. I was listening to shit like Green Day and U2. I don't think I could have even understood BOC or Helios at that age.
>>55279424 I don't know exactly what make me realize it, but I think it was watching someone try to drive some good memories into the ground instead of just letting them be what they are. Like adult sleepover level shit. If you're going to be a manchild, be new and fresh about it.
>>55279476 I know that feel down to the band, though I can still listen to Second Stage. I jumped ship around good apollo when everything to meta-breakupcore instead of decent rock opera.
>>55279577 It means they probably haven't grown as a person since they were 14. I used to like it too, but then the trite lyrics and political soapboxing got old. Then there's this thing about bands and music steeped in lore that you tend to grow out of as you grow, or at least seek in better forms. I don't consider myself particularly mature, but I still feel like less of a faggot blasting booty bass made by actual faggots for fags to grind to than a cartoon band marketed to teenagers.
>>55279940 Didn't say I grew out of hiphop. Just the corny ultraviolence and the need for niggas to play depressing alone-time music when you're having a teaparty. It's like now no one wants to listen to punk or buttmetal when they're having a toke.
>>55280121 I kinda disagree. Detektivbären were not really sure what they were doing stylistically. Wintergatan may not be up your alley, but it is consistent. I mean all he did to begin with is emulating Yann Tiersen with an 808
>>55280182 I like what Wintergatan is doing much better, but miss some of the more traditional songs with a bit of synth. It's pretty clear the direction both of them wanted to go in and why it wasn't going to work. Still, this is just depressing.
>>55280408 >implying all humans don't do those things >especially implying white people don't leech off the hard work of others I'm not even /whiteguilt/. We're just really fucking good at exploiting people. It's probably that cromagnon ancestry.
>>55280615 No black people don't naturally rape, thief, murder, abandon children, spread aods, and leech off the hard work of my country. But please explain why most of these crimes are done by immigrants?
They come from a shit place and we offerr them a new life, yet they still commit all these atrocities and then we're supposed to just take it. It's fucking bullshit and lefties know it, it's easier to destroy than it is to build, we need capable people and not some savages.
>I hate my own race I see the lefties succeeded wonderfully, have you no pride left?
>Inb4 neonazi >Inb4 /pol/ But ofcourse that won't stop anyone from calling me that because hurr not being left means being far right these days
>>55279927 >It means they probably haven't grown as a person
That's quite a stretch. You do realize that a lot of people don't have an active interest in music and their taste in it doesn't really reflect changes in their life. None of my highschool friends are really into music, and when I visit them I find they listen to mostly the same stuff they always have, save for a few new artists. But they've definitely grown and changed a lot as people. Music just doesn't represent that well.
>>55281047 Maybe I'm just part of a different crowd, but my friends have kept up or at least stopped listening to cringy teenage shit. The ones who didn't still act like teenagers, and not that it's any correlation, still live at home or knocked up some girl and are children raising a child.
Anyway, it's not the outward self-awareness of caring what other people think, but the inward one where they're approaching 30 and don't cringe at themselves for what they still listen to.
>>55280822 This still isn't music related, but I never said I hated my own race. I love how good white people are at exploiting others. It's made my life a lot easier than it would have been otherwise, and I'm not guilty about it at all, because it's just the way things are.
>>55280570 A lot of musicians are still trying to be Led Zeppelin and end up sounding dull and just like every other ripoff hard rock band. I think guitars will always have a place in music, but artists can't rely on it as a centerpiece like they used to.
Within Temptation and Evanescence immediately come to mind, which is weird considering I still like Lacuna Coil, doubly so considering their output in the last 5 or 6 years. I barely listen to artists like Gorillaz, Linkin Park, Green Day or Paramore anymore but I'll be in the mood for it out of nowhere like twice a year on average. I've just about grown out of them as well.
>>55279232 >visual kei I listen to some VK out of nostalgia occasionally, some of those guys have really great voices. It doesn't seem like too many current Japanese bands have singers with lower vocals.
>>55282100 Literally a non-issue, because it's not something people can change, and it's not the immigrants doing the exploiting. Countries where immigration is a "problem" actually just have unofficial guest worker programs.
>>55281391 So what? I'm am too. Most people on /mu/ are. Its really well crafted and creative pop music. Each album is incredibly diverse, and the collaborations are always top notch (DOOM, Dennis Hopper, Del, that guy on latin contigo, etc) Damon Albarn is quietly one of the greatest songwriters of his generation.
>>55279232 >emo/pop-punk Recently left this genre in the dust too, save for a few albums. Every band uses the same lyrical style and imagery to the point where it sounds so disengenuine and they're just parroting each other.
>>55279265 I was into most /mu/ core at 16, without ever having been here. I'm 25 now. Some people jist get curious younger and I used to read a lot of music info and reviews etc. Maybe same for that poster.
>>55281584 >Anyway, it's not the outward self-awareness of caring what other people think, but the inward one where they're approaching 30 and don't cringe at themselves for what they still listen to.
No, it's definitely you caring about what people think. You care so much that you're projecting your insecurities onto them. They enjoy what they listen to, and you're saying they shouldn't, because... why? You're the only one cringing. It's really petty to judge people for what they listen to. We all listen to music for different reasons.
(And this is coming from someone who used to judge people all the time for their music tastes)
>>55286007 >DM (i call it dm for short) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5ZkPXkto0 >HWN (I call it HWN for short) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smKK1hs--l4 >Generative (I leave out the "electronics" so plebs don't think im putting it in that category)
>>55285909 i'm actually ok with generative electronics and tibetan throat singing. but anytime i look up any type of harsh noise, i find a bunch of people who look like they care way too much about trying to "look the part". it's like it's more about the scene than the noise itself and it doesn't feel genuine, but i could definitely be wrong.
>>55286140 I agree with you. I haven't checked out a lot of generative elctronics, but I have listened to quite a bit of tibetan throat singing, even seeing some of them live (tibetan throat singing groups come around my area a lot).
>>55286060 The DM is literally a meme, the hwn song is the first thing you get when you look up hwn on google, and that's the generative song everyone that's heard of generative knows. get out of here
>>55286368 honestly I thought this whole thing was a big joke. I was just messing around but now I'm starting to see you guys are actually taking this seriously, which is extremely depressing and pathetic. This board may actually be the single worst board on this entire website, because this tells me that some people are actually serious about this "patrician, pleb" thing. All of you are losers.
>>55286439 At first I didn't think anyone actually was, but seeing my responses. It seems like some people actually take it seriously, which depresses me. I bet when you call someone a pleb you actually mean it.
>>55286414 The instruments are anti-music designed to heighten awareness. There's no pattern or rhythm or melody to lull you into samsara. It's the antithesis of peaceful and relaxing. The chanting is a recitation with which your mind becomes one with the sutra and in tibetan, it's rarely happy peaceful stuff. There's more going on but tibetan hurts my eyes to read, I'm shit at it and they won't let me near the good books.
Reading the article, I'm suspect the experience might be comparable to jumping into a mosh pit during a performance, as they both give the listener a sense of danger. I'm guessing the point of danger music is to evoke a sense of fear or concern from the audience.
Here's one of the artists featured in the article https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE5u3ThYyl4
>>55286439 I honestly think danger music is more of a performance art. I have to admit, stuff like this is usually what comes up when describing why the art world is kind of silly. I know there are some lists floating around here that depict the deepest music as things that don't follow any conventions of music. Generally, all that stuff is just nonsense, with some exception. Danger music is derived from dadaism, which is essential 'anti-art', stuff like Andy Warhol's Sleep, which is just a lengthy recording of John Giorno sleeping for several hours. It's usually a form of protest: one performance in 1968 by Gunther Brus (admittedly a more memorable performance than most) is simply him urinating and defecating on a stage, then masturbating while singing the Austrian national anthem.
Unfortunately the reason none of that 'deep' shit is talked about on /mu/ is because there's no point, often. It's nothing more than spectacle, something that you might listen to once and then forget about, because it leaves no lasting impression; it's literally all just noise. It's hard for something like that to ever be remembered, when performances are seldom recorded. Danger music, specifically, is just has to be music that you play while hurting yourself. Just something edgy to show off on last.fm.
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