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yo so what happened to jazz in the 21st century
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yo so what happened to jazz in the 21st century
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you're mum sat on it and it got crushed
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>>55332126
It got more complex, diverse, and personal than ever before and also increasingly less popular, yet more rewarding to those who seek it out.

It's the same trajectory it's been on since the 1940's.
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can you give me some examples of some good artists from this century?
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>>55332189

>>55332248
this, i'm getting fucked on Art Blakey and Mingus lately, need some current recs
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>>55332248
George Duke
Roy Ayers
Herbie Hancock
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>>55332189

I don't believe you - prove it!

name one person from the last 10 years and one from the 90's that could possible fit that description outside the "institutions" of jazz like the ECM label
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>>55332402
Not that guy but i agree

>John Zorn
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>>55332248
>>55332288
you mean people whose first album came out after 2001? Ambrose Akinmusire, Vincent Bourgeyx, Eldar Djangirov
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>>55332353

>asks for artists from 21st century
>he names artists known for 60's/70's work

pls
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>>55332248
Don't know how 'pure' you want your jazz, but I've been really into Jaga Jazzist recently. Haven't seen them mentioned here that often.
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>>55332126
Alive and well
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>>55332402
Flying Lotus

Maybe Glasper or someone like that. Kamasi Washington, maybe?
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>>55332402
Squarepusher

Saw him live on Sunday night - he was really crazy, shredding jazz on his bass and shit
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>>55332478
I have their record as well. Cool guys. I believe they are on Ninja Tune? Heard them on FlyLo FM (the BBC Residency) as well.
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fucking rock music made it die, i still believe in this yes

it had to be brought back into the underground music scene by genres like hip hop in order to develop at least a bit in the last 30 years
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>>55332480

I thought Flylo was electro? he has his fusion-y moments, but he seems like one half wicked-as-fuck producer with his other half being split between his electro, jazz-fusion, film soundtracks, samples, etc.
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BADBADNOTGOOD

i guess it's not really "true" jazz because it reaches into experimental hip hop often
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>>55332499

post something of his that fits then - I'm all ears
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>>55332248
Karate
Brasstronaut

They're less traditional though.
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>>55332402
why does it have to be outside the ECM label? What about artists who have recorded one or two ECM albums but a lot of other stuff as well?

Anyway- since you asked:
Ambrose Akinmusire
Ari Hoenig
Matthew Shipp
Rudresh Mahanthappa
Steve Lehman
Alex Sipiagin
John Escreet
Eric Revis
Yosvany Terry
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>>55332702
Music Is Rotted One Note and Music For Robots are probably some of his more "traditional" jazz albums in that they still sound like jazz.

But the thing is, even with, say, his new album that came out the other day, even though it's some bassy electronica shit, the chord progressions in there are definitely still jazz. I'm not super well versed in his discography either, but you'll find something you like, probably - he even has an album of solo bass guitar, if you're into that.
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>>55332189
This.

You're not looking very hard if you can't find good contemporary jazz. Truth is most /mu/ browsers don't want to find it. They're happier with the "cool" image of jazz being a vintage, dead genre that's inaccessible to most.
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>>55332634
>i guess it's not really "true" jazz
>i guess it's not "jazz"
Ftfy
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>>55332745

I just don't share the taste the label founder has for jazz. I really like their non-jazz releases loads more: Arvo Part's Tabula Rasa, Naná Vasconcelos' Saudades, even David Byrne's The Knee Plays is fun in its way
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>>55333051
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean they aren't making innovative, important music. I think it's really always been a goal of the label to blur the lines between jazz and art music. Not all of it is "jazz" some definitely is and some definitely isn't, a lot is somewhere in the middle- I try to judge it on the music itself, not whether or not it's jazz.
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>>55332825
>>55332702
His solo bass guitar album is pretty meh. He's performed better solo bass songs on Ultravisitor than the songs on that album. Ultravisitor is my favorite work by him, and would be a pretty great place to start imho, although it might spoil some of his other stuff. There's a healthy mix of jazzy electronics juxtaposed with quiet, calm instrumental solo bass pieces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LtS8onGBYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnlIRuP7Pwo

Iambic Nine Poetry is also one of the greatest pieces of music ever made.
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Hiromi happened

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rxYw7Y45Eo
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>>55333333
waste of digits
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>>55333333
Damn...
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>>55333333
>this post got 333333
God fucking damnit.
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>>55333333
WHY IS IT ALWAYS THESE K FAGS.
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>>55333134

I'm not capable of saying whether they're making "important" music or not - and I probably couldn't even tell if what they're releasing is "innovative" in any meaningful way.

I just know that when I listened to that label's 70's output as well as their most recent releases, I felt like they were missing something important. I just have never connected with it.

If there's important, innovative, or just great-sounding music on that label I've been missing or otherwise haven't give a fair shake, now's your chance to disabuse me of my mistaken notions

you can start listing some of these "innovative, important" albums now...
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>>55333333
fuck you
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>>55333333
Hiromi confirmed jazz slayer.
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>>55333407
She's Japanese you dip
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>>55333416
Well first tell me what you think that important thing that ECM albums are missing is- and I'll try to rec you some that have whatever that missing piece is.

Also if you could list a few that you've already hear and didn't like that would be helpful too.
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>>55333333
>>55333424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RENCVlALCNc

She IS good at piano.
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>>55333333
sounds like contra theme
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>>55334042
Now I hear it too
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>>55333383
>>55333392
>>55333403
>>55333407
>>55333419
>>55333428

What are you guys complaining about, exactly? She sounds like she's a good piano player…
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>>55333407
Man it's just that Japan's fascination with America has led to them discovering Jazz after like 100 years of it's popularity
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>>55332402
Andrew Hill
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>>55332248
Anyone into Pat Metheny? He's pretty gr8.
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>>55334207

dude, I don't know if you're aware, so I'll try to break this to you lightly: he dead.

if we're trying to establish examples jazz as a continuing relevant force in the 21st century, picking dead artists really ain't the best way to go about it
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>>55332480
>>55332499
>>55332634
meme jazz
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>>55333416
>>55333611
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>>55334527
calling them memes doesn't mean they're bad

and calling Squarepusher "meme jazz" when he's been around way before internet memes were a thing is kind of inane, anyway.
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>>55334172
alive was legit the best jazz album of 2014
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>>55333742
I don't dislike what I'm hearing but there's a certain brashness in lieu of tenderness to it.

>tfw classical music ended with George Gershwin codifying everything into jazz and then dying of a brain tumor
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>>55332248
The bad plus
Phronesis
Marius neset
Rudresh mahanthappa
Aaron parks
Esbjorn svensson trio
Chris potter
Steve lehman
Polar bear
Christian scott
Robert glasper
There is so much amazing jazz coming out nowadays, you just have to put a little more effort into finding it.
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Any Julian Lage fans on here? One of my favorites and still in his mid twenties.
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>>55336127
I agree with many of these, and would like to add Eldar Djangirov, Eric Harland, and Julian Lage as three of my personal favorites. Harland and Parks are #1 and #3 on my top 3 albums (Live By Night and Arborescence)
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>>55333333
wew lad nice digits
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best jazz albums from this year so far?
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>>55336510
>>55332479
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>>55333333
sup dregs
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>>55336510
>2015
>jazz
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>>55336127
>>55332443
>>55332714
>>55334274
>>55332478
...
Ben Sidran!
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>>55336510
>This Dick Ain't Free

That's about it.
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>>55336510
Kamasi Washington's Epic is dropping on May 5th, so it's worth keeping in mind. I think it'll be really good, considering his previous material.
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>>55332126
I need some clean, funky, electronic jazz, like Squarepusher. Where to start?
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I've heard Richard Elliott's (just an example of modern jazz) newest album.

It's not bad, but it's too... What's the fucking word, solid? I think? Like it's meant to follow a status quo for song structure?

I'm not sure. I hear it and think it's pretty chill, then I hear Mingus Ah Um and get blown away every single time.
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