People accuse others of doing this often, but does anyone ACTUALLY do this?
Like, to an extent, sure—I probably overestimate TPAB because of other people's opinions, and cognitive dissonance/wanting to be accepted by social groups occur. To an extent.
But, like, if I can't get into Merzbow, or something (which I can't), I'm not going to pretend to like something I flat-out just don't get.
Oh, I don't think Merzbow fans "pretend" to like the music. It's just that "pretending" is an accusation I've heard for a variety of genres/artists that I wonder whether it's just an inane argument, or whether there's something more to that.
I think a lot of people on here pretend to NOT like music
Death grips for example has been reduced to "meme grips" by everyone in a desperate attempt to fit in on a fucking internet imageboard
>listened to recommended album
>dont get it
>claim others don't get it too
>call them out for being pretentious and fake
this is not what's happening, don't blame others because you can't enjoy something.
What is there to "get" with Merzbow? I don't think it's "art music," in the sense that it's not written down and performed, in fact his style is the opposite, favoring improvisation. There's certainly some music that requires context (field recordings, possibly aleatoric music as well) but I never thought there was much the average listener needed to know about Merzbow to more fully appreciate it: you either like it or you don't. If you don't like it, it shouldn't and doesn't mean anything, just like if you don't like Kanye West, it really doesn't mean anything.
>Misunderstanding the OP
Nothing in the OP post indicates that he thinks Merzbow fans are fake. He's just asking whether anyone actually does pretend to like something they really don't. If he DID think there were fake fans, would he ask the question in the first place?
Unless you're just really responding with
>this is not what's happening
in which case, who is
>don't blame others because you can't enjoy something.
directed to? Because there's no blaming going on.
People should have understood the concept by now
People should know how Merzbow didn't invent noise nor is a new thing from people with no creativity
People who say it's not music have 0 understatement of what noise is
That album was a pretty good ride while walking.I got it and I liked it
But pic related is just boring and underwhelming
The best I can say about Spiderland is that it's comfy.The first song's instrumentals are pretty nice.
But I listened to the whole thing straight while paying attention to the lyrics and overall it was just overwhelming.
No surprise that the Japanese noise scene is highly involved with BDSM. Pic related is one of Merzbow's best albums.
Same here. I really don't think it's as common as /mu/tants claim it is.
Maybe it's just a case of
> I don't like X
> therefore I don't see what anyone could like in X
> therefore anyone who likes X is only pretending
or something like it. Egocentrism, basically. Considering yourself as the one and only true evaluator of the world makes sense, but it can be a terrible way of thinking when you're confronted with others. And people can be surprisingly stubborn and intolerant like that when it comes to tastes and personal preferences, not just about music but also about food, sex, movies, anything... Try telling people you don't like Star Wars or pizza and see them instantly turn into assholes. This kind of behaviour is even encouraged here.
>I think a lot of people on here pretend to NOT like music
This I can believe.
A bit off-topic, but this one took me a while to get into. And I don't mean in a "after trying to like it for fifty listens, I got used to it and it slowly grew on me" kind of way — I had known the album for years and always found it kinda interesting, nothing more. Then one day I found myself in a weird sad mood, wanting to listen to it again, and when I did I suddenly loved it. It was completely unexpected. Been loving it since.
Oh yeah, I pretend to like thing more than I do, but more to smooth over social situations and not so seem like I have superior taste.
I generally want to hide my power level with regard to music, unless I know the person I'm talking to is into it.
And it's not really difficult to me, because most of the stuff I don't like just doesn't interest me, I don't really feel actively repulsed by it. So I can pretend to like a Kanye song, when I really just have no particular interest in hearing it.
fuck no. some things are horrible to like. Like catchy simple music that gives you immediate gratification. Some of that type of music gives me the kick but I don't want others to know that I listen to it or listen to it as often as I do.
I pretend to like metal especially the older stuff, for the most part, when I'm with my friends. I've been perpetuating this charade for almost a decade. Case in point, if you asked me in front of them if I enjoyed Black Sabbath and what my favorite song is, then I'd tell you "yeah, fucker, Sweet Leaf." However, I kind of hate Sabbath.
I even keep various metal albums on my iPod to placate my friends' tastes. When I'm alone, I skip through all that shit.
You don't like music then
No I'm not saying that you don't like music because you don't like catchy music I'm saying you don't like music because you care about how people see your taste
Here's a tip: Nobody cares about your taste, stop being so insecure
>I've been perpetuating this charade for almost a decade
holy shit wow that's nuts
>you don't like music because you care about how people see your taste
Liking music and caring about others' perceptions of you aren't mutually exclusive, you know.
It is, mane
Sorry to break news for you
I know it's hard but you should move on to other interests
Oh no wait you have no capacity to think for yourself right
You keep listening to music your group likes
Have fun having no taste nor personality
People like you disgust me
>wow that's nuts
Yeah, but don't get me wrong, I have no qualms with bringing up my weirdo bands that they can't get into; however, I want my friends to feel like they can relate to me, musically at least.
I happily scream vocals to their various musical endeavors.
I just made this post in another thread, but:
>people come here from /b/ because they "like music" and start listening to Kanye, Grips, ITAOTS, whatever else is popular on /mu/
>this somehow makes them better than people who "like music" and listen to top40 radio, even though they haven't really done any exploring themselves and have jumped from one stream of music opinion to another
I'm no great patrician myself, but I actually are people out there who have limited appreciation of music, almost naturally. As long as it has melody and harmony, it sounds good enough for them to associate with. Maybe it's a good thing to be like that.
It's not just other people. I want to impress myself as well (as awkward as this sounds.) There's an inner drive to improve my taste and I feel down at times when I'm so emotionally unintelligent that I can only listen to instant gratification music
>one of Merzbow's best albums.
hah no it sucks pic related is where it's at