discuss noise and related genres
post your noise/gear/live shows
talk about shows you've been to/are going to
what are you listening to now?
I'm admittedly new to noise. I've listened to the various sub-sub-genres (harsh, wall, PE, death industrial, etc.), and I think my favorite is stuff along the lines of pic related. Lots of loops/sampling, very static-y, occasionally loud.
Long story short, can anyone recommend me more tape loop noise albums?
not that I can find. discogs and last.fm only list the self titled
if you want more like it here's a blackened noise chart
sutekh hexen, wold, abruptum, and altars are in a similar vein
So I bought a lot of cheap Behringer pedals and plugged them to my bass and started experimenting.
Shit is fun as fuck, but I wanna start doing live shows.
How do you start a noise scene in a place where the edgiest scene is anarcho-punk?
some speedcore borders on noise. it's been forever since I've listened to this stuff but iirc rottencore - bloody fuck is really noisy you may also want to look through the compilations "splitter destruction" and "psychopathic sound mastrubation" to find the noisier artists. I believe all of this was put out by the SKRD label which, last I checked, had all of their stuff up for free.
>>tfw no gf
>>my god why am I better than everyone else
>>my feet hurt
He does look pretty nonplussed, right? He was supposed to close out the night after Greh, but his laptop died.
it sometimes happens, i understand him a bit.
Strapping it to your throat while eating would probably work better.
Reposting from last thread cause everyone needs to see this. Gero is back and active
For the anon who asked if I had it in the other thread, I managed to get it again through rutracker. Here it is:
Wiener Aktivisten - Chapter I & II (2005) 
>death industrial, martial industrial, orchestral noise
Opinions on my first noise release? Should I stop before I get worse?
sorry to say but you look qt. I was expecting amateur "harsh" laptop but got that white noise. I kinda dig the texture at the begging but man it drags(of course it's partially my fault cause I am accustomed to very short fast thinking trax). I also like the idea of description. It narrows my imagination but in a good way(despite being a bit cliche).
Second. Start sounds pretty generic to my ears but then the TRAIN came and went in circles to inject mellow/shoe melodies. I would really like if suddenly something much harsher kicked in. That sudden up in volume on 3:55 was a spot on. For fucks sake, please, on 5:00 louder till it clips. That loop fits very well too, but imo you should end it about 6 min in(like whole trax not only that loop). And it ends. Well nothing spectacular.
From both I am gettin the feeling that they begone a long before they started and both tracks are just an aftermath of something much more powerful and well made.
I like it. And I very much appreciate that you actually care enough about your art to give it titles and cover art that seem actually crafted and not lazy, shitty, and random like a lot of the people who post their shit here. Keep up the good work. Keep experimenting and find new sounds, new combinations, etc. Your stuff is not bad at all. More ambient than the kind of noise most people in this thread are going to expect of you, but there are noise elements.
Just released a set or mostly unrelated songs, feedback appreciated.
Two pretty quick tracks.
How is /noise/ doing today?
I'm seeling bastard noise this weekend
Also self promotion
Well fast like part chimp and meat puppets and steve albini stuff. I like those but I don't want to listen to them right now
Less rock and more post rock.
Like deathconsciousness or the later parts of come on die young.
That's all right friendo. Try Ramleh - they started out as first-wave industrial and power electronics, then moved towards noise rock starting with their album Grudge For Life. You might enjoy.
I asked a couple threads ago if anybody knew of any Detroit/Michigan noise scenes one could locate? Some guy said he'd have a friend message me, but that never happened.
I never got it, thanks for remembering me though. Can you have him try my email/RYM instead? I appreciate it, and sorry it didn't work the first time.
i know wolf eyes were involved with the running of something called the michigan underground group a few years back, located in detroit
it was a venue of some sort and a label as well, noise and punk artists played there
i don't know if that's still going on
You ask to open for some anarcho-punk acts then. If they're /real/ punk, they'd be appreciative.
I've came in to say I've shared a stage with people who've shared a stage with Richard Ramirez and The Rita their last tour. :^)
This is some rather pleasant noise actually. Really dynamic. Harsh at points but still gives some time to breathe. Now I'm listening to Yugen and I actually really like what I'm hearing, I'm sorta a sucker for folk shit.
This thing is a newer noise release of mine, most of my own stuff being ambient techno usually. More in line with my live material.
Yeah, the Detroit / Cleveland area is still one of the largest noise concentrations in the US.
no kidding? was it a straight-up noise set or something more alongside his PE material? was it new or old material or just pure improv? did you get a chance to talk to him?
i'm curious as hell about that dude and there's pretty much no insight into what his deal is anywhere
It was more or less just a straight-up noise set. He seems like the average dude, compared to Gene Pick who's straight up crust punk. It would've been longer if these two guys in the audience didn't have a fistfight and knock the noise table down.
The guys fighting btw are also noisers. Solace Media Corporation and one of the guys in Traag (on Opal Tapes)/Church Shuttle.
>checking the power noise recs
>no Esplendor Geometrico
Philly-based industrial/noise/darkwave artist. Used to be in a noise rock band called Social Junk and currently in a sample-collage project with Ren Schofield of God Willing/Container called Form A Log.
Just finished a compilation I've been working on for the past month or so, and I've also got another 10 minute track I'd appreciate some feedback on. Tapes are available on BC, with a cdr coming soon too.
We just released our longest album yet!
Noise seems like the most pretentious thing I have ever imagined.
Can someone describe the appeal?
I am not making fun of noise - I am interested (although I do think you're a bunch of edgy hipsters.)
whats so pretentious about this? it's fucking amazing.
To me this sounds like saying picture related has the same appeal as any other TV show.
I want to listen to something you consider to be a GOAT noise album if you do not mind.
You're comparing visual and audio phenomena. Why is it so different to find noise appealing? I like Everything from Joanna Newsom to Ash Pool along with noise music. I like the sounds. They aren't uncomfortable when you listen at a low enough volume. Noise can be enjoyed viscerally like metal, or meditatively like ambient. I like astructural sound and I like structural sound. I have always enjoyed listening to the sounds around me.
Would you guys generally consider yourselves noise purists or do you enjoy music outside of the noise genre that employs really blown out textures? I mean, obviously you like other kinds of music but when it comes to screechy distorted stuff are you more inclined towards the all or nothing side of things?
I did an improv set and recently with a keyboard, guitar and a some pedals and recorded it straight onto a single track tape player. It's extremely blown out but from a normie perspective but I'm just not sure how it'd be taken by noise enthusiasts.
Ambient seems like the most pretentious thing I have ever imagined.
Can someone describe the appeal? It's literally background music.
I am not making fun of ambient - I am interested (although I do think you're a bunch of edgy hipsters.)
It just has to sound good. It's extremely obvious to a regular listener whether or not something that's been made lacks aural aesthetic consideration on the part of the performer. There are just certain ways a piece is put together that make it sound decent or shit. You really do have to know what you're doing.
I guess that's the answer I anticipated. I'm struggling with it, because since it was totally live and made up on the spot there are naturally some shaky bits. On the other hand, I think some parts are really well put together. Most of the issues is just guitar noise sections/riffs going on for too long because I had no sense of how much time was passing.
I enjoy plenty of noisy shit outside of noise such as the rhythmic noise/industrial techno spectrum as well as noisy metal and punk.
>It's extremely blown out but from a normie perspective but I'm just not sure how it'd be taken by noise enthusiasts.
that sounds vaguely similar to some of what fernow's been doing lately and his stuff has been well received by a large portion of the /noise/ community
yoo here's some new stuff, some local friends just put out a tape that I'm digging
the Chimess side isn't quite relevant, ambient beats, loops and textures, but the Foolish Belief side is a couple damn good live recordings - slow-moving noise, pretty damn tasty
So i think i'm going to buy one of these and hook it up to a camera and start recording noise shows in the LA area
RA just published a 'conversation with Merzbow'
> I don't really like very low frequencies—not that that means I'm a fan of high ones either. For example, if cars on the road next to my house are idling for a long time, like mixer trucks, then you get that low frequency sound going on and on. I really dislike that.
first time listening to this, its pretty amazing
The Artificial Nerve
White Eye Of Winter Watching
Links Between Environmental Contamination & Chronic Diseases, Vol. 1
Really want to get ahold of that Listen And Die! reissue though
another good one
a bit uneven but eh, i guess that's to be expected considering how much material there is on it
steel trap is that good, eh? i've been wanting to hear that one for a while
>Really want to get ahold of that Listen And Die! reissue though
that compilation's got some of my favorite work by those artists
taint, sshe retina stimulants and AM dominate it
It's a shitty garbage move, but consider buying two of each - one to keep, one to sell. I can't stand people who flip, but I've fucking done it for AmTapes stuff without hesitation.
Cool, hope you enjoy it. I ordered the CD in the mail not knowing what to expect and I ended up loving it personally. I'm actually looking for more of that type of tape loopy noise as well. I've played around with making it myself and discovered how much it appeals to me that way.
>walk into my roommate's room
>he's listening to some ambient drone I've never heard at a low volume
>it sounds incredible
>I say "Wow, didn't know you were into this, what artist are you listening to?"
>he looks at me confused, "I'm not listening to anything"
>"what the hell?"
>look out his window
>a neighbor is mowing his lawn across the street
I wish I could've recorded it, seriously sounded great
That's hilarious. You could have recorded it with a phone or something, although that would probably be where things would become a little weird, if you could only hear it like that from his room.
I've had moments like that, things like an airplane overhead or machines droning & humming that sounded interesting and worth recording. I have a lot of stuff like that on my phone that I've captured.
I've done that a couple times where I thought my music was turned on but it was just a power tool or something. I really need to get a good mic and make a collection of recordings of that kind of stuff.
new >noise hopish type great good bad
if you dont like ambient edgy, skip over first tracky
The full tape:
There's a bias on the right channel. At some point I'll try to rip it again to compensate for the issue
Wish I could post content but I'm doing NBBMN. I usually post whatever I am listening to but...I'm not listening to noise.
I will probably live in these threads again come December.
So I've got a folder. You can email stuff to the email above and I'll add it to the folder. Should we suggest a cap on the length/size of the files submitted?
Guys guys guys I made noise.
I don't know if it's good or what but it's on my bandcamp and you can listen to it and get it for free and I think I'm going to make more tracks for it until it's the size of a full length release and leave it there
please listen and tell what you think
GIR Volume 5 is now out!!!
When Christian Cosmos' Enthronement by God... was being sold from Hospital on vinyl the description implies Fernow is behind RSE, even if he didn't say it himself. Pic related
that's honestly a bit disappointing that they did that. even though there was no doubt that RSE is a fernow project it's still fun to see that fiction maintained. christian cosmos sounds like it'd be cool though, have you heard it?
Yeah, I've only heard that album in the pic though. It's very noisy, slow, beat stuff like Kuwaiti Airforce by VS. I think It's his collab with Alberich?
>It's very noisy, slow, beat stuff like Kuwaiti Airforce by VS. I think It's his collab with Alberich?
this is right up my alley, dl'ing now. thanks for bringing this to my attention anon
Nice looking tape.
Chondritic Sound does really nice packaging for their releases.
I don't understand how general threads are supposed to work. I see a few people posting about albums and a couple charts, but other than that what music has really been shared in here? I don't know what I am supposed to do with these general threads and I have been avoiding them ever since they started appearing on /mu/.
I'm not actually into noise but I saw your post and this happened to me the other day but with a printer. The beeps and whirring it was making seriously sounded great. Where can I find printer core?
Dom said in an interview that he never intended for RSE to be mysterious. He said that in one of the liners for "the Christian Cosmos record" which I assume is Unmaking, it said that RSE, VS, and CC are all Fernow's projects, a trinity of sorts that explores the nature of anxiety in nature, man, and god respectively.
Lapke's said it's just rumor that he's involved with CC. He just provided a couple of source materials.
Because he spams his shit everywhere, acts like a child parroting the same insult about everything that's not his, and creates a shit aesthetic with his noise that's comparable to Dicklick Brigade levels of ironic memery.
>a trinity of sorts that explores the nature of anxiety in nature, man, and god respectively.
That's actually a really cool concept, I gotta check this stuff out more. RSE is possibly my favorite fernow project already.
Check out most later tapes that To Live and Shave in L.A. released, they're almost exactly what you're looking for. Try these:
Each Day Vomits its Tomorrow
Les poisons délectables
i only listen to merzbow (other noise never appeals to me) but i'd describe my fascination with it as related to the non-emotional impact of it, i read masami akita once say that it is immediate and doesn't bring to mind memories or associations with things. it's like pure sensation. i used to listen to lots of "normal" music expressing ordinary feelings and thoughts but as i aged i found it difficult to relate to a lot of those things and this immediacy of 'noise' music has more appeal to me. it's aesthetically pleasing, extreme, intense, pushes boundaries; it creates soundscapes that i can use like harsh ambient music while reading and doing other things. it also gives some kind of thrill like driving fast and dangerously or something similar. sometimes i feel like my feelings have become noise, in other words like all i feel inside myself is "noise" rather than a particular emotion as such, it's some kind of disillusionment. but more than this, masami akita is schooled in surrealism and has lots of interesting interests that find their way into his work; there is this surrealistic element of the music, related to dada and other art movements. the combination of sounds that "cramp your mind like the chance meeting of an umbrella and sowing machine on a dissecting table" as masami once put it, referencing a classic surrealist quotation. in other words, it has some novelty that induces pleasure. merzbow also usually has a forceful, driving, moving quality, it's never dull or boring like other noise groups i've tried out, it has power. also i agree with merzbow's views on animal rights, straightedge lifestyle, etc and it gives me pleasure to listen to his stuff.
they're ok yeah, i don't really like screaming in noise music though, that's why i like merzbow, his music is intense but he is very calm and detached, no flailing about like others. merzbow is preddy zen
merzbeat by far
is really something.
by the way, recommend me
some banger from here,
done with top left.
Pretty new to the noise scene and I really love Kazumoto Endo. He has a good sense of humor and I like the purely noisey nature, not violent necessarily, but more focused on texture and sound. Can you guys recommend similar artists?
I've been enjoying some of Merzbow too from a few live shows on Youtube but don't know where to start in terms of albums.
Also, advice for equipment? I was thinking of hooking up my Tascam DP008 to a pedal or too and seeing what happens but I don't know if it would produce the kind of tones and whirrs and highpitched squeals that I enjoy
Crumer's having problems with his upcoming LP, "Stare At The Devil". From the pressing plant:
>Starting around 13:00 minutes into side A, there is heavy, high frequency info. We dropped the level down 20db and dropped the head -- even at that level it is drawing significant current. We would not be able to cut this "as is" at any level competitive with other commercial releases. As another example, side 2 starts with a pulsating 15k tone that we would not be willing to even drop the head with. The tone last for almost 4 minutes and it is this kind of extended incident that cooks cutter heads.
>This is the second time this has happened to a Crumer LP. Getting it re-mastered this time so it stays an LP (Let There Be Crumer we simply did CD version) this is begging for a digital version of the original, too brutal for reality mastering job
Looking forward to this one.
>this is begging for a digital version of the original, too brutal for reality mastering job
sign me up
speaking of crumer, is anyone picking up the new shredded nerve tape that's out on no rent?
Hey guys I'm back, I'm this poster: >>60187856
I put some more tracks there and I think they are sounding just as cool, I'm glad you guys liked the stuff I put there, thanks for the support. You can download for free, get single tracks and all that. thx
I am doing NBNN and accidentally heard some conventional song playing on the radio. It was very weird feeling. Like the song was really imaginative and super interesting(it wasn't). Does this happen to anyone else?
Yea, I kind of get a similar feeling than this. I remember listening to some noise for some time on the computer and minutes later listening to the weeknd on TV and it sounded better than ever
Oh yes. Just got this new in shrinkrap. I'm hesitant to open it to play the CD but I'll give the album a solid listen-to regardless tonight.
I'm from south america, Chile specifically.
The scene here is non-existant. I tried to find some noise acts but the venues only show shit death metal.
I just wanna make some friends ;_;
>I'm not actually into noise but I saw your post and this happened to me the other day but with a printer. The beeps and whirring it was making seriously sounded great. Where can I find printer core?
>This dogma00 compatible ballad introduces a breathtaking solo played by a matrix printer.
I just uploaded this a couple of seconds ago, I've tried to have like a...psych-harsh noise kind of feel to my noise but I'm not really going anywhere with developing that sound. Anyways, I hope y'all enjoy.
anyone heard the new junko? i've heard a bit and i've enjoyed it so far
It makes me wanna look into more (nearly) purely vocal noise/experimental whatever. Masonna sort of does it. Some artists I can think of other than Junko:
C. Spencer Yeh (Solo Voice I-X)
Ami Yoshida (anything)
Yoko Ono (Voice Piece for Soprano)
Fingers into Marjorelle from Vegas Fountain was fucking great
Yoshida focuses more on the functioning of her lips, cheeks, tongue, teeth, throat, vocal cords etc in articulating her sounds. You can hear the saliva moving around in her mouth and constricted breathing which I think would add to the discomforting aspect of her style. I'm not sure but it sounds like she might have amplified her throat as well?
C. Spencer Yeh and Gerritt Wittmer/Paul Knowles do similar things, where you can hear their throats and breaths. Links related:
I agree with Junko, as from what I've heard her thing is screaming rather than what I mentioned above. Both are good.