INDIA EDITION #2
Since we decided it would be best to go with themes for each /trad/, let's start with the most well known music tradition outside the western - Indian music. From classical to village music, everything is welcome, of course. Discuss outside influences on Indian music, or discuss how it has influenced other cultures. Come with listening suggestions. Anything related to Indian music tradition! You're still allowed to discuss other traditional music as well, of course.
A few basic listening recommendations (some are uploaded to my trad folder, ask if you want one that isn't):
Angaraag Papon Mahanta - Gomseng
Asad Ali Khan - Ragas Purvi & Joyiga
Begum Akhtar - Begum Akhtar
Ramnad Krishnan - Vidwan: Music of South India - Songs of the Carnatic Tradition
VA - Vocal Music Of Rajasthan: Langas And Manganiyars
VA - Anthology of Indian Classical Music
Finding musics: http://www.folkways.si.edu/
Various useful links: http://www.ethnomusicology.org/?Resources_Links
Hampus' uploads: https://mega.nz/#F!095RxbjT!L70EOLIUfZjS_f3D7YKfsg
Alan Lomax's recordings: http://research.culturalequity.org/home-audio.jsp
Finding musics: http://www.folkways.si.edu/
SLSK Room: /trad/
Recently discovered a good duo from China, The Guo Brothers. Their album "Yuan" is beautiful (Chinese harps, bamboo flutes and dulcimers )
How do you feel about westerners learning how to play traditionally cultural instruments that they don't belong to? I recently purchased a sitar and I was telling a very liberal friend about it, and he called me racist and said I was appropriating Palestinian culture (he's not very smart). I don't believe culture can be appropriated and as music is a universal thing across all cultures, I see no problem with me learning how play the sitar. I'm looking for anyone who disagrees with me to tell me in an intelligent manner, as I've not heard or seen a good argument about this yet.
some of them are ok, but they're no way as good as a native studying since childhood
I know he's dumb, especially when he said I was stealing from Palestinian culture, when the sitar in its current state is an Indian instrument, and evolved from Persian instruments.
I'm still gonna learn it, and I recognize I won't be as good as, say, Nikhil Banerjee or Ravi Shankar, but it is still something that I think is fun, and has a much weaker emphasis on structure, as opposed to the violin and other classical Western instruments.
There's 9 IPs in this thread, but yeah that is pretty much par for these threads.
>Maybe the theme shouldn't be at the beginning of the title..
We hade a huge meta thread the other day where we decided that themed threads were the way to go to instigate interest.
Radio India- The Eternal Dream Of Sound
>music from Indian radio
>Ragas, Bollywood breaks, electric guitars, chenai and violin bliss, creepy folk songs and top-notch vocalists.
Remember Shakti - Live At Montreux Jazz Festival 
>Hindustani classical, Carnatic classical, fusion, live
Does anyone know more good raga where the focus is on vocals?
John Handy & Ali Akbar Khan - Rainbow
>saxophone, Hindustani classical, Carnatic classical, Indian classical, jazz, fusion
Saxophonist John Handy plays with Indian classical legends Ustad Ali Akbar Khan (sarod) and Dr. L. Subramaniam (violin).
Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda
>Eastern jazz, ”stoner jazz”, uses Indian traditional instruments to create a shimmering atmosphere.
Béla Fleck, Zakir Hussain, Edgar Meyer - The Melody of Rhythm 
>Bela Fleck, Zakir Hussain, Edgar Meyer (for people searching and forgetting the acute accent on é)
>banjo, tabla, double bass, jazz, fusion, instrumental, world music
Three masters of their respective instruments, backed up by the Detroit Symphony Orchestra
Buddy Rich & Alla Rakha - Rich À La Rakha 
>Hindustani classical, Indian classical, jazz, tabla, drums, fusion
A collaboration between one of the greatest jazz drummers and one of the greatest tabla virtuosos
Charles Lloyd- Sangam (2006)
>avant-garde, improv, world
>Allaboutjazz.com reviewer Matt Cibula probably summed it up best with his quote-“this album captures the three grooviest motherfuckers in the world, all playing together perfectly, and it deserves some serious consideration as what ESPN would call "an instant classic.”” Lloyd plays a variety of woodwinds (as well as percussion and piano) with Harland and Hussein contributing on a wide variety of percussion as well. It’s groove-based improvisation with a world-jazz tinge.
Diga Rhythm Band - Diga 
>tabla, drums, bongo, duggi, dumbek, talking drum, percussion-driven, world music, Hindustani classical, Indian classical, fusion
A short-lived 70s world music ensemble fronted by Mickey Hart from the Grateful Dead and Ustad Zakir Hussain. As far as I can tell, they only ever released this one album and it's brilliant. Jerry Garcia from the Grateful Dead plays the guitar on a couple of tracks.
Indukti - S.U.S.A.R.
>mostly instrumental progressive metal, devoid of useless wankery and has great violins, features vocals by Mariusz Duda from Riverside
I included this because it draws heavily from southeast-asian rhythms and melody.
I'm somewhat uncertain of what you're doing here.
What you want is music from the kirana ghirana. Check my uploads folder, there are four albums or so there which focuses on that school.
I mean, you're posting American jazz music, and not really contributing anything meaningful to the thread at all. Like, I'm glad someone is bumping it, but what's the point? If you want to share that isn't directly related to the thread and with no real context, put stuff into a folder on mega and just share that entire folder isntead.
No, I'm just thinking that American jazz music doesn't belong in /trad/, and that you're not making any meaningful contributions by spamming albums without context. These aren't supposed to be share threads, they're supposed to be discussion threads. If someone wants a download link for music, they can either find it themselves or request it.
Yeah, because there was no previous conversation to lead of off and I don't have an interest in explaining why this music is great. If people are looking, then they will appreciate the shares.
லால்குடி ஜயராம [Lalgudi Jayaraman] - Violin
>Carnatic Classical Music
Lalgudi Jayaraman’s live Violin performance consists of a spiritual, meditative 1-hour long stream of Carnatic bliss, and two shorter performances. His violin oozes such a warm and enveloping sound, and displays otherworldly talent.
Here is some amazing non-western meditation music. Very good, respect it, respect OP, respect thread LAW.
Shivkumar Sharma & Rahul Sharma - The Golden Heritage 
>santoor, Hindustani classical, Indian classical
>Pandit Shivkumar Sharma and his son and disciple Rahul Sharma, both playing the santoor
here's some amazing sitar and vocal ragas that I just found. Recording is subpar, but it's pretty old so it can be forgiven.
will upload when I get home this evening
you might like this
just gonna keep posting neat records I find until I get back home.
I'm enjoying this quite a bit rn, I think it's one of the longest ragas I've ever sat through.
Imrat Khan - Raga Darbari
Call of the Valley along with pic related are probably the two most aesthetically pleasing /trad/ record covers
idk i really like this one.
i just listened to dj cheb i sabbbah's first album and thought it was dope
and just heard table beat science for the first time . . . any thoughts on the current edge? is there one?
yeah I listened to it last night and it really blew me away.
at some points it almost sounds like a transcription of western classical with all the harmonies and the use of the bilawal scale
I grew up enjoying music from almost every genre/nationality and I don't intend for that to cease, too bad you missed the culture wagon. Also, the new Beach House was pretty lame. This probz just bait but you sound like a little kid.
Here's some more by him, although it is more standard solo sitar + tabla stuff
abdul halim jaffer khan - jafferkhani baaz
np, here's some more of her if you're interested.
She has an incredible voice. I've always been fond of the female vocal styles in Hindustani music, it's so hypnotizing.
go ahead and post man
i'm a fan of Aruna Sairam but this womans amazing too, her beeing old adds a lot to it. Youger female singers often seem to have a colder voice. With the exception of
Found this fantastic website on Hindustani Classical, really gets into the details of how a raga is structured.
good stuff man, I'm really digging this
I'm not too well versed in Eastern European trad but this song is great.
Any recommendations for rowdy, grittier Indian music? I like Qawwali, and Rajasthani(specifically Kabelia) music.
wow, are you me?? I said basically the same thing in the previous thread
the Qawwali I like the most is by Badar Ali Khan (Nusrat's cousin):
and I have a few Rajasthani folk albums from the 60's (?) from the Ocora label I probably upload to youtube.
I wonder why Ocora doesn't reissue their old releases. does it mean they've lost the rights for doing so? (but they recorded them!) or are they just letting their award-winning earliest recordings languish in obscurity for no good reason at all...
JEsus i totally feel like postin someithng good tonight, but Im way toodrunk. Perhaps this state is a good look into how little i actally know avbout music, eventough i wish iwt was more
goonna listen to some dank indian stuff before i goto sleep tho
man fucjk ocora
it's quitee possiblyonne ot the greatest labels, but for some reaosna bunch of htier releases are nowhere to be found, legal or otherwise. if they releasesd their entire catalogue right now for oder Iäd probably buy it
if there's something specific you've been looking for that you haven't found yet, there's at least a possibility that I may have downloaded it sometime within the last 4 years. I went on a spree downloading every Ocora release I encountered on the web (many of them Megaupload links); and while I still haven't organized that 100+ batch of albums, I still have them backed up on multiple hard drives.
I live near a fairly large public and university research libraries that have physical copies of many out of print world music releases, so that's where I spend a lot my free time.
the 5th floor in Toronto's main library branch is home to countless physical records, all freely accessible to the public. tragically underutilized, I at least give many of the Asian and African recordings their first spins in often over a decade
so! since you were very kind and posted those links to the nonesuch releases, which I very much like to dip into and explore, I'd be quite glad to oblige any potential gaps you're still angrily glaring at in you digital Ocora collection, if you're interested