>>786242 That's not even really correct. Based on how long each prgram has been around, the A320neo and MAX are o n about the same pace. And the 777X is fine. Nobody wants the A380 or 747 anymore and the 777 represents the largest twin fan offering.
>>786418 Doesn't the Dreamliner have larger windows though? That alone makes it better because honestly, economy will always be shit no matter what airplane or airline you're in.
I've flown economy on the Emirates A380 and I was disappointed. Same as every other airline, not even the toilets were made bigger for that airplane in economy, so plus-size gentlemen like myself had a hard time finding a comfortable position to defecate.
>>786584 Emirates is literally the ONLY airline that has expressed any interest in the A380neo. There's not a single airliner in existence in the Airbus or Boeing portfolio that would have been built if only one airline was interested.
Not to mention that Airbus also need to ramp up capacity for the A330neo, which will be notably more difficult if they commit to building the A380. Oh, and there's precisely zero market for used A380s, so Emirates would take a huge hit on early retirement of their current A380 fleet.
>>786596 It's probably going to be discontinued soon. Very few of the passenger models are selling and the demand for cargo aircraft hasn't bounced back. They are going to build 3 to be the new Air Force One though.
>>787849 in this situation, surely flight envelope protection is more a hindrance than a help?
It doesn't matter what the limiting angle is, when a building is you're immediate concern you probably don't want there to be a limit at all. Even if you turn 90 degrees and crash the plane into a river, at least you didn't kill everyone in the building as well.
>>787724 Ouch that hurts man... Still I am in the air and you are most likely stuck on fsx.
All planes since the wright flier are shit - is that what you're saying? If you fly the 737 it is just monitoring computers too... In older aircraft you'd have an engineer monitoring everything so that means a pilot has even less concerns.
>>787746 Not quite i understand your point. A boeing has the same degree of flight envelope protections as an airbus? That is just plain wrong. In normal law you cant stall an airbus, you can stall a boeing at any time. In normal law you cant pull more G than the maximum design limit, in a boeing you can throw it about to the point where the tail snaps off. Why would you ever need more than 67 degrees AoB?
>>788260 I dont want to fly an a/c that can override me as a pilot
There was that incident in an airbus not too long ago where the alpha vane got stuck in a "nose high" position, computers freaked out, thought it was a nose high position (it was the alpha vane that has frozen) and the computers inputted full nose down pitch around 10,000ft. Crew had to disconnect the associated computers just to fly the damn a/c No thanks, don't want to fly that deathtrap (i'm not american before you ask)
>>789521 It's disgusting. Just like Brazil. It disgusts me. I hate it, I hate it so badly. I don't care aboutany races as such, but brazilians, vietnamese, thai, americans and somalians disgust me. I hate it. I hate them all. Everybody else are cool guys, but I just hate those people. Can't tell you why, maybe because they're huge self centered faggots. I hate them, and I want to nuke the fuck out of them. Jesus Christ I hate them.
>>786590 >CS300... could be a game-changer for regional airports Absolutely. Of all the different companies trying to bust into the regional jet market, Bombardier is really the only one that has managed to develop a decent plane.
Westerners won't fly on the Comac C919 (because everything made in China is garbage and likely to fall apart or explode at any moment). Likewise the Sukhoi Superjet 100 just doesn't have the confidence of the airlines since their prototype accidentally a mountain in clear weather.
Bombardier/Embraer are going to end up owning the entire regional jet market between then, same as Boeing/Airbus own the entire large aircraft market.
>>789970 >Westerners won't fly on the Comac C919 (because everything made in China is garbage and likely to fall apart or explode at any moment). Passengers are ignorant. That's not a likely reason for failure.
It won't succeed though, because like you say, it won't get the confidence of airlines.
>>789970 The MRJ is on the table (to a lesser extent) as well. It has 223 firm orders and 184 options. Of that, 100 firm and 100 options are just for SkyWest, which is a big player in regional US airports.
>>789486 'In normal law you cant stall an airbus' - nothing wrong with that statement. You have to be seriously unlucky to leave normal law. Recently 2 boeings have stalled in completely normal conditions with fatal concequences (Asiana and Turkish in AMS). In AMS there was a very MINOR technical downgrade which lead to these obviously 'superior' stick and rudder pilots (all three of them) not to notice that their aircraft was slowing down. In an Airbus, would never happen.
Protections based on design limits make the aircraft much more manouverable. In a boeing, because you have no protection at the limit the pilot won't know where that limit lies so will either pull far too little G during an escape manovure (like if he is heading towards terrain or about to hit another aircraft) or he will pull far too much G and overstress the aircraft perhaps leading to a structural failure. At all times the pilot flying the airbus can just smash the controls wherever he wants and the plane will go to the very MAXIMUM it can safely provide. If you try to argue that this is not a sensible design then you are wrong, an idiot and have no place discussing aviation and should stick to the bike threads.
>>789983 I'd love to see Mitsubishi become a big player in the market, as things seem a little stagnant at the moment. And you are correct, the Skywest orders will definitely bring it into the spotlight for other airlines to consider.
>>790126 The A380 was created at a time when demand for super-jumbos was in decline. Airlines mostly prefer twin fan mini-jumbos these days. And airports need special facilities to handle the A380.
It's telling that the ONLY airline that has expressed any interest in an A380neo is Emirates and that there is no market for used airframes from the current A380 fleet.
So basically, they put all this time, effort, and all those resources into a clean sheet design for something that hasn't even sold at the level they want and probably never will. They have to decide this year whether or not to build the -neo, all while simultaneously trying to ramp up A320(neo), A330neo, and A350 production.
TL;DR: The A380 has too little appeal and was badly timed.
>>790234 Nigga, that thing was ancient by the time the accident happened. Be happy the accident wasn't any worse than it already was, or ruined the Concorde name forever. An update was long needed, but never happened.
>>790277 >Be happy the accident wasn't any worse than it already was Short of hitting a bigger building, it couldn't have been much worse aircraft wise. It was (nearly?) full of passengers at the time.
i've always recalled 100 as the standard config but i know it could go up into the high 120s at times.
I find its a shame honestly , my uncle worked there for a long time and said in the last 10 years , a lot of managers were replaced with people who didn't even care about aerospace/airplanes , they were just in it for the money.
>>790141 >and that there is no market for used airframes from the current A380 fleet I'm pretty sure that's mostly because: - an used a380 is still outside the reach of those who would be interested in buying it used; - those who would buy it used don't have the leverage to make more airports support the A380... or the traffic to justify an A380.
>>797326 >Why would the buy one then. Air traffic numbers are on the rise, and as much as you point your finger towards low cost carriers and point to point connections, a lot of people are still going to fly low cost to a major hub and then jump on a transcontinental flight, because cramming more people into the same flight means reduced ticket prices. It's as simple as that. New long-range aircraft are eating away at the need for using very large aircraft between major hubs and being routed through another flight to your final destination, but that doesn't mean very high volume routes will stop existing. And the more passengers there are, the more high volume routes there will be. For now this means only Emirates wants the A380, but in the future, there will be more interested parties.
>>797350 The 747 production line is only going to last a few more years unless they get new orders. Same goes for the A380; they need multiple commitments to buy it and Emirates is literally the only airline interested in the neo.
>>797352 Not if they don't get a lot more orders in the next couple of years. The 747-8F is what they were relying on to financially carry the -8 series. But the global cargo aircraft market has never fully recovered from the downturn and orders aren't even close to where they thought they would be.
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