girls don't give a shit about cars but more expensive ones and ones that have a certain brand image like mercedes benz, bmw, and lexus give you an appearance of money and are more likely to attract women /thread
Welp, curiosity got the best of me, so I googled it looking for answers. Turns out it's just part of some scavenger hunt hipster bullshit.
>There is a website out there called GISHWES, which stands for Greatest International Scavenger Hunt The World Has Ever Seen. Straight from the What Is GISHWES? page, тАЬGISHWHES is a 5-time Guinness World Record breaking scavenger hunt hosted by Misha Collins. Thousands of participants from more than 100 countries are placed on 15-person teams and for one week, through laughter, blood, sweat and tears, they acquire Items on a wild and jaw-dropping scavenger hunt list. The team that scavenges the most items with the highest quality of submissions joins Misha Collins on an all-expenses paid trip to an exotic locale. Prior Winners journeyed to Rome, a haunted castle in Scotland and British Columbia. In 2013, they had a scavenger hunt for girls wearing cheese dresses standing in front of classic cars. The mystery of the cheesy pictures has been solved!
the internet is a crazy place. like where the fuck else are you going to learn that there are people you share the Earth with who have a "muscle car/cheese dress" fetish? like that isn't shit that anyone would have an outlet for without the internet.
>>13609237 Yes, that pretty much describes Americans. They are so assblasted about living in a third world country that they react with utter hostility when someone dares to point out just how fucked their country is. Never mind their healthcare system, infant mortality rates, homicide rates, obesity rates, income inequality, political corruption, failing schools, polluted/destroyed biomes, illiteracy, superstition among adults, et al, it's totally not a third world country. Perhaps if you could afford to travel, you'd understand.
>>13609325 Does that inspire rage in you, Americuck? Because I think it's hilarious. The U.S. feels it has the right to dictate to the world, and yet, their own country is crumbling to dust around them.
>>13609359 Right, because we totally ask for their leadership. Yes, the U.S. has never, ever defied international law, or butted into affairs of other nations uninvited. I guess a large part of the problem is your schools, then. Also, how is it that you can spend so much on your military and still be complete shit at fighting wars?
>>13609387 >Muh injured jingoistic pride! Yes sugartits, that's it. Keep on believing, it's working really well for you. You realize that you're pretty much the comic relief of the world, right? Last time I checked, the only things america was number 1 at was homicide by gun, adult illiteracy in the developed world, number of incarcerated people, military spending (lulz, still can't win wars against sand niggers tho), and wage stagnation. I'm sorry about your rage, but perhaps you should volunteer, or attempt to educate yourself so you may remedy this instead of projecting. Thanks for the laugh, as always.
>>13609395 How about torturing prisoners? How about the Iraq war? How about NSA wiretaps? Are you really this fucking stupid, or are you trolling? We don't ask for your help, no one does. You can't even help yourselves, why one earth would you think that any other country wants your "help"? Are all americans as delusional and out of touch as you, or is this a flyover thing?
>>13609409 Fuck, South Africa beats us on homicides by gun. There' like a dozen or more countries that do. Most of shit is incorrect. You remind me of a baby bird with your mouth open while bloggers and new media spit in your mouth.
>>13609409 I think you forgot >Number one economy >Reserve currency holder >Strongest military 1000x over I couldn't care less if ISIS took over everywhere but the US. You're fucking shit to me. It fucking amazes me how ass hurt foreigners get and try to tell me how much my life and nation sucks. What a joke. Blame charles darwin or muhammed you got born in a shit nation, but don't hate the only people who matter. >we should have let the fucking russians conquer you cucks
>>13609419 >We don't ask for your help, no one does. Maybe you didn't, but you cuck as tiny government does. Stay mad my liberal eurofriend and keep reaping the benefits of trade with america and using our currency for world trade. Oh and the hundreds of military bases we have around the world protecting your sorry asses so you can indoctrinate youth to be hippy fucks like yourself.
>>13609430 >Strongest military Sorry sweetie, but "most expensive/least effective" doth not strength make. Try again. As for your economy...thanks for another laugh. It doesn't count when the plutocrats control it. The wealth inequality in your country rivals india. How does it feel to be cucked by banksters constantly? >>13609427 >I can't disprove what you said, so have an Ad hominem attack as I lick my wounds! ftfy Stay mad Clapistanis, stay mad.
4chan best chan board. USA USA! Go enjoy your own shitty anonymous internet web site and stop coming here. This shit is usually from stupid kid in Ohio acting like he's a foreigner because people outside the US actually know how shitty things are where they are from.
>>13609446 >I think that military bases protect anything but the bottom line of the MiC! >I know nothing about politics, so have some snarl words and jingoism! ftfy Stay cucked flyover bro, stay cucked.
Bonus: i'm swiss. You know, one of the safest, wealthiest, healthiest countries in the world? With incredible schools, pristine environments, healthy business sectors, and a press that's actually free. Cry some more, eh flyoverbro?
>>13609457 No, try again. The people rabidly defending the US are typically heavily indoctrinated reactionary retards (Uncledad sez it, it must be true, a-hyuck!) from areas typically lacking in education, hope, or anything resembling decency. If you could actually afford to travel, you'd begin to understand just how fucked your country is.
Do you have enough nukes to plow the world over ten times over in five minutes?
No? Tell me more about your "military" >bankers I'm so sure the same people don't control your life. No, of course not. Multi-national banking or industry and capitalism are totally not in your country. Keep gobbling up your welfare and 'guaranteed income' you sheep.
>>13609476 >The people rabidly attacking the US are typically heavily indoctrinated reactionary retards Fixed that for you. The irony should really sink in if you go back and reread who started this and over what. LOL Goodnight angry anon. Enjoy your high blood pressure and spittle.
>>13609395 >give an example of the US defying international law. IS this fucking nigger serious?
time to rev up my pasta
US CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY & GLOBAL TERRORISM
US Use of Weapons of Mass Destruction
The indiscriminate use of bombs by the US, usually outside a declared war situation, for wanton destruction, for no military objectives, whose targets and victims are civilian populations, or what we now call "collateral damage."
Japan (1945) China (1945-46) Korea & China (1950-53) Guatemala (1954, 1960, 1967-69) Indonesia (1958) Cuba (1959-61) Congo (1964) Peru (1965) Laos (1964-70) Vietnam (1961-1973) Cambodia (1969-70) Grenada (1983) Lebanon (1983-84) Libya (1986) El Salvador (1980s) Nicaragua (1980s) Iran (1987) Panama (1989) Iraq (1991-2000) Kuwait (1991) Somalia (1993) Bosnia (1994-95) Sudan (1998) Afghanistan (1998) Pakistan (1998) Yugoslavia (1999) Bulgaria (1999) Macedonia (1999)
US Use of Chemical & Biological Weapons The US has refused to sign Conventions against the development and use of chemical and biological weapons, and has either used or tested (without informing the civilian populations) these weapons in the following locations abroad:
Bahamas (late 1940s-mid-1950s) Canada (1953) China and Korea (1950-53) Korea (1967-69) Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia (1961-1970) Panama (1940s-1990s) Cuba (1962, 69, 70, 71, 81, 96)
>>13609606 And the US has tested such weapons on US civilian populations, without their knowledge, in the following locations:
Watertown, NY and US Virgin Islands (1950) SF Bay Area (1950, 1957-67) Minneapolis (1953) St. Louis (1953) Washington, DC Area (1953, 1967) Florida (1955) Savannah GA/Avon Park, FL (1956-58) New York City (1956, 1966) Chicago (1960)
And the US has encouraged the use of such weapons, and provided the technology to develop such weapons in various nations abroad, including:
Egypt South Africa Iraq
US Political and Military Interventions since 1945 The US has launched a series of military and political interventions since 1945, often to install puppet regimes, or alternatively to engage in political actions such as smear campaigns, sponsoring or targeting opposition political groups (depending on how they served US interests), undermining political parties, sabotage and terror campaigns, and so forth. It has done so in nations such as China (1945-51) South Africa (1960s-1980s) France (1947) Bolivia (1964-75) Marshall Islands (1946-58) Australia (1972-75) Italy (1947-1975) Iraq (1972-75) Greece (1947-49) Portugal (1974-76) Philippines (1945-53) East Timor (1975-99) Korea (1945-53) Ecuador (1975) Albania (1949-53) Argentina (1976) Eastern Europe (1948-56) Pakistan (1977) Germany (1950s) Angola (1975-1980s) Iran (1953) Jamaica (1976) Guatemala (1953-1990s) Honduras (1980s) Costa Rica (mid-1950s, 1970-71) Nicaragua (1980s) Middle East (1956-58) Philippines (1970s-90s) Indonesia (1957-58) Seychelles (1979-81) Haiti (1959) South Yemen (1979-84) Western Europe (1950s-1960s) South Korea (1980)
>>13609614 Guyana (1953-64) Chad (1981-82) Iraq (1958-63) Grenada (1979-83) Vietnam (1945-53) Suriname (1982-84) Cambodia (1955-73) Libya (1981-89) Laos (1957-73) Fiji (1987) Thailand (1965-73) Panama (1989) Ecuador (1960-63) Afghanistan (1979-92) Congo (1960-65, 1977-78) El Salvador (1980-92) Algeria (1960s) Haiti (1987-94) Brazil (1961-64) Bulgaria (1990-91) Peru (1965) Albania (1991-92) Dominican Republic (1963-65) Somalia (1993) Cuba (1959-present) Iraq (1990s) Indonesia (1965) Peru (1990-present) Ghana (1966) Mexico (1990-present) Uruguay (1969-72) Colombia (1990-present) Chile (1964-73) Yugoslavia (1995-99) Greece (1967-74)
US Perversions of Foreign Elections The US has specifically intervened to rig or distort the outcome of foreign elections, and sometimes engineered sham "demonstration" elections to ward off accusations of government repression in allied nations in the US sphere of influence. These sham elections have often installed or maintained in power repressive dictators who have victimized their populations. Such practices have occurred in nations such as:
Philippines (1950s) Italy (1948-1970s) Lebanon (1950s) Indonesia (1955) Vietnam (1955) Guyana (1953-64) Japan (1958-1970s) Nepal (1959) Laos (1960) Brazil (1962) Dominican Republic (1962) Guatemala (1963) Bolivia (1966) Chile (1964-70) Portugal (1974-75) Australia (1974-75) Jamaica (1976) El Salvador (1984) Panama (1984, 89) Nicaragua (1984, 90) Haiti (1987, 88) Bulgaria (1990-91) Albania (1991-92) Russia (1996) Mongolia (1996) Bosnia (1998)
>>13609619 US Versus World at the United Nations The US has repeatedly acted to undermine peace and human rights initiatives at the United Nations, routinely voting against hundreds of UN resolutions and treaties. The US easily has the worst record of any nation on not supporting UN treaties. In almost all of its hundreds of "no" votes, the US was the "sole" nation to vote no (among the 100-130 nations that usually vote), and among only 1 or 2 other nations voting no the rest of the time. Here's a representative sample of US votes from 1978-1987:
US Is the Sole "No" Vote on Resolutions or Treaties For aid to underdeveloped nations For the promotion of developing nation exports For UN promotion of human rights For protecting developing nations in trade agreements For New International Economic Order for underdeveloped nations For development as a human right Versus multinational corporate operations in South Africa For cooperative models in developing nations For right of nations to economic system of their choice Versus chemical and biological weapons (at least 3 times) Versus Namibian apartheid For economic/standard of living rights as human rights Versus apartheid South African aggression vs. neighboring states (2 times) Versus foreign investments in apartheid South Africa
>>13609621 For world charter to protect ecology For anti-apartheid convention For anti-apartheid convention in international sports For nuclear test ban treaty (at least 2 times) For prevention of arms race in outer space For UNESCO-sponsored new world information order (at least 2 times) For international law to protect economic rights For Transport & Communications Decade in Africa Versus manufacture of new types of weapons of mass destruction Versus naval arms race For Independent Commission on Disarmament & Security Issues For UN response mechanism for natural disasters For the Right to Food For Report of Committee on Elimination of Racial Discrimination For UN study on military development For Commemoration of 25th anniversary of Independence for Colonial Countries For Industrial Development Decade in Africa For interdependence of economic and political rights For improved UN response to human rights abuses For protection of rights of migrant workers For protection against products harmful to health and the environment For a Convention on the Rights of the Child For training journalists in the developing world For international cooperation on third world debt For a UN Conference on Trade & Development
US Is 1 of Only 2 "No" Votes on Resolutions or Treaties For Palestinian living conditions/rights (at least 8 times) Versus foreign intervention into other nations For a UN Conference on Women Versus nuclear test explosions (at least 2 times) For the non-use of nuclear weapons vs. non-nuclear states For a Middle East nuclear free zone Versus Israeli nuclear weapons (at least 2 times) For a new world international economic order For a trade union conference on sanctions vs. South Africa For the Law of the Sea Treaty For economic assistance to Palestinians For UN measures against fascist activities and groups
>>13609628 For international cooperation on money/finance/debt/trade/development For a Zone of Peace in the South Atlantic For compliance with Intl Court of Justice decision for Nicaragua vs. US. **For a conference and measures to prevent international terrorism (including its underlying causes) For ending the trade embargo vs. Nicaragua
US Is 1 of Only 3 "No" Votes on Resolutions and Treaties Versus Israeli human rights abuses (at least 6 times) Versus South African apartheid (at least 4 times) Versus return of refugees to Israel For ending nuclear arms race (at least 2 times) For an embargo on apartheid South Africa For South African liberation from apartheid (at least 3 times) For the independence of colonial nations For the UN Decade for Women Versus harmful foreign economic practices in colonial territories For a Middle East Peace Conference For ending the embargo of Cuba (at least 10 times)
In addition, the US has: Repeatedly withheld its dues from the UN Twice left UNESCO because of its human rights initiatives Twice left the International Labor Organization for its workers rights initiatives Refused to renew the Antiballistic Missile Treaty Refused to sign the Kyoto Treaty on global warming Refused to back the World Health Organization's ban on infant formula abuses Refused to sign the Anti-Biological Weapons Convention Refused to sign the Convention against the use of land mines Refused to participate in the UN Conference Against Racism in Durban Been one of the last nations in the world to sign the UN Covenant on Political & Civil Rights (30 years after its creation) Refused to sign the UN Covenant on Economic & Social Rights Opposed the emerging new UN Covenant on the Rights to Peace, Development & Environmental Protection
>>13609633 Sampling of Deaths >From US Military Interventions & Propping Up Corrupt Dictators (using the most conservative estimates) Nicaragua 30,000 dead Brazil 100,000 dead Korea 4 million dead Guatemala 200,000 dead Honduras 20,000 dead El Salvador 63,000 dead Argentina 40,000 dead Bolivia 10,000 dead Uruguay 10,000 dead Ecuador 10,000 dead Peru 10,000 dead Iraq 1.3 million dead Iran 30,000 dead Sudan 8-10,000 dead Colombia 50,000 dead Panama 5,000 dead Japan 140,000 dead Afghanistan 10,000 dead Somalia 5000 dead Philippines 150,000 dead Haiti 100,000 dead Dominican Republic 10,000 dead Libya 500 dead Macedonia 1000 dead South Africa 10,000 dead Pakistan 10,000 dead Palestine 40,000 dead Indonesia 1 million dead East Timor 1/3-1/2 of total population Greece 10,000 dead Laos 600,000 dead Cambodia 1 million dead Angola 300,000 dead Grenada 500 dead Congo 2 million dead Egypt 10,000 dead Vietnam 1.5 million dead Chile 50,000 dead
>>13609634 The US goverment knew that using conventional carpet bombing would yield best results over hiroshima and nagasaki and yet they decided to use nuclear bombs, not only that, but they knew Pearl harbor was boudn to happen and didnt stablishh peace talks with japan
feel free to google every single point I have copy/paste to proveme wrong, (of course you wont because you rather post about "redpill" memes and how black people want to kill whiteys on facebook)
>>13609655 Other Lethal US Interventions CIA Terror Training Manuals Development and distribution of training manuals for foreign military personnel or foreign nationals, including instructions on assassination, subversion, sabotage, population control, torture, repression, psychological torture, death squads, etc.
Specific Torture Campaigns Creation and launching of direct US campaigns to support torture as an instrument of terror and social control for governments in Greece, Iran, Vietnam, Bolivia, Uruguay, Brazil, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, and Panama
Supporting and Harboring Terrorists The promotion, protection, arming or equiping of terrorists such as:
. Klaus Barbie and other German Nazis, and Italian and Japanese fascists, after WW II
. Manual Noriega (Panama), Saddam Hussein (Iraq), Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic), Osama bin Laden (Afghanistan), and others whose terrorism has come back to haunt us
. Running the Higher War College (Brazil) and first School of the Americas (Panama), which gave US training to repressors, death squad members, and torturers (the second School of the Americas is still running at Ft. Benning GA)
. Providing asylum for Cuban, Salvadoran, Guatemalan, Haitian, Chilean, Argentinian, Iranian, South Vietnamese and other terrorists, dictators, and torturers
Assassinating World Leaders Using assassination as a tool of foreign policy, wherein the CIA has initiated assassination attempts against at least 40 foreign heads of state (some several times) in the last 50 years, a number of which have been successful, such as: Patrice Lumumba (Congo), Rafael Trujillo (Dominican Republic), Ngo Dihn Diem (Vietnam) Salvador Allende (Chile)
>>13609666 Arms Trade & US Military Presence . The US is the world's largest seller of weapons abroad, arming dictators, militaries, and terrorists that repress or victimize their populations, and fueling scores of violent conflicts around the globe
. The US is the world's largest provider of live land mines which, even in peacetime, kill or injure at least several people around the world each day
. The US has military bases in at least 50 nations around the world, which have led to frequent victimization of local populations.
. The US military has been bombing one Middle Eastern or Muslim nation or another almost continuously since 1983, including Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, and Iraq (almost daily bombings since 1991)
This, then, is a sampling of American foreign policies over the last 50 years. The FBI uses the following definition for Terrorism: "The unlawful use of force or violence committed by a group or individual, who has some connection to a foreign power or whose activities transcend national boundaries, against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives." This sounds like the terrorism we just experienced. It also sounds a lot like the US policies and actions since 1945 that I've just described. thats all of my pasta
>muscle cars attract grills boomer myth, it only attracts old guys and children >this thread if a grill sat her cheese covered ass on my car i would rip out her ovaries. And to make it worse, all of these burgers are wearing shitty ass cheese slices, the worst cheese ever pre packaged by man, its not even good
We can do all that and get away with it because we're #1 and the "world police". I'd rather not be the world police and let 3rd world countries destroy each other, but I guess Europe still depends on us. Oh well! If we were so bad then we wouldn't have the highest number of immigrants in the world every year.
>>13612007 Jesus what constitutes a, "good," car for the period? Whats an acceptable car in you specific jaded point of view? Some unobtainable ultra low production Ferrari? People like what they like, just be and let be.
>>13612183 Except for the fact that individual American states, even minor ones like Wisconsin, are often larger and more relevant (economically, politically, and culturally) than entire European nation-states, and therefore make for a more analogous comparison than the United States versus a small, homogeneous European state.
If you want to look at even smaller regions of micro-states like Norway or Switzerland, then a more reasonable comparison would be an American county or metro area.
>>13612669 >thinking I want to be "relevant" nice buzzword, I rather live in an irrelevant nation that never gets attacked by "terrorist" or shitskings dont migrate into
>meanwhile, HDI in worthwhile states is above that of any nation on earth .5 points on the HDI doesnt mean shit dumbass you would know his if you had any idea of what you are talking about
if you dont have the money (which americans dont have due to shitty Gini coefficient and other parameters where they rank similar to 3rd world countries) you cannot afford the commodities that high HDI offers
>white americans kek
>stay cucked, nerd sorry cucklord, but pic related doesnt happen in my country
Again, you live in comparative poverty, akin to that of a Mexican in a Southern state.
Additionally, a nation of uniformly poor people (like yours, inevitably) is not more desirable than a nation of both rich and comparatively poor, especially when the comparatively poor still lead better lives than yours (see >>13612122).
>>13612699 But your "developed nations" are both smaller and poorer than my state, so... stay mad? YUROPOORS
>>13612717 >Again, you live in comparative poverty, akin to that of a Mexican in a Southern state. I dont, there are less people here in the czech republic than in america, both by the total amount of population and per capita that live under poverty line
>Additionally, a nation of uniformly poor people (like yours, inevitably) Additionally, a nation of uniformly poor people (like yours, inevitably) wrong, my country has a better gini coefficient, which means there are less poor people than in america, there are less people who cannot afford food
> the comparatively poor still lead better lives than your proving how retarded you are again, HDI by itself doesnt mean anything, HDI simply dictates the amount of commodities the people are offered the correct measure is HDI adjusted by inequality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index you can see my country is above the US
>But your "developed nations" are both smaller and poorer than my state read above, my country has better income equality, similar life expentancy, better HDI afjusted by inequality, lower child mortality, equal university graduates etc
it doesnt matter how much you cry about how "developed" your contry is when you cannot afford the commodities it offers
and before you fall itno "muh gunz" here in the czech republic getting a rifle is relatively easier, with the added bonus of no mass shootings
>>13612770 Oh, but it does. It's a simple metric measuring education (as proxied via literacy rates), healthcare (living expectation), and wealth (GDP per capita). There is nothing about it that relegates it to the country level. Feel free to continue talking about things you know nothing about, though.
>>13612790 How could a European even argue about cars beyond reposting Corvette vs GTR pictures that someone else made? It's virtually impossible for a European to be a car enthusiast, the cost of ownership and laws for even entry level fun cars are too high for the 16-30 age group which encompasses 99% of /o/ posters. It's pretty understandable that they would be upset about America after looking at pictures of things they can't have all day. We should go easier on the Euros, can't really blame them for their shitty situation.
Allow me to refute this point by point, because you're an uninformed Yuroape who cannot fathom how poor people in America lead comparatively better lives than average people in the Czech Republic.
A better Gini coefficient means nothing, especially when not contextualized within the confines of purchasing power parity, as, according to it, a country where everyone makes 10 dollars a year will be more "equitable", and, therefore, more desirable, than a country where some make 100,000 dollars a year and some make 150,000. Of course, when you actually look at the living standards of the inhabitants, such a distinction goes out the window.
HDI is a tripartite metric that cares about purchasing power, health standards, and education. It does not, as you put in broken English, "dictate the amount of commodities the people are offered". Reread the link you posted.
Again, living in a decent state such as Washington or Wisconsin or even Michigan, on a simple demographic basis, affords you better living standards than living in another country.
Or, rather, you can't extrapolate comparatively shit living standards in poor states as applying to the entirely of a huge, heterogeneous nation as the United States. So, I can very likely say that I lead a better life in my Californian suburb than the average inhabitant does in any nation on Earth. Comparing your insignificant, barely-sovereign nation state of five million or ten million people to the last remaining superpower is silly. A better comparison would be an American state of similar population and economic output, which is what I have done, and what continues to elude you.
>>13612882 Enjoy your smog checks and no engine modifications roflmao I'll be in the best city in the world enjoying not ever having some minimum wage loser prodding my car and doing a series of bullshit tests
>>13612829 >A better Gini coefficient means nothing yes it does, of course they didnt teach you this on your 60k debt school, but you can adjust the Gini coefficient with the household income it doesnt matter if your average household income is high due to billuionare bankers when the bottom 40% of americans are in debt
>HDI is a tripartite metric that cares about purchasing power, health standards, and education. these are called commoditiesof course you didnt know this you need money to afford these commodities
it doesnt matter if there are 7 mercedes benz dealerships in your town if the people cannot afford them, which is why you adjust HDI to income inequality
>Again, living in a decent state such as Washington or Wisconsin or even Michigan, on a simple demographic basis, affords you better living standards than living in another country. you havent provided any proof of this, other than hdi not adjuste by inequality, but I guess cherrypicking is all you have left
>>13612848 you cannot extrapolate the good living standars of the 1% percent to the rest of the population neither, which is what you are doing
Living expectation or literacy rates are not "commodities", full stop. I'm not sure what sort of bizarre, central European definition you use to define "commodity", but it certainly doesn't apply to literacy.
Again, as evidenced in my aforementioned diagram, the average person (not the phantom "1%" boogeyman you continue to invoke) in many states, including mine, leads a better life than the average inhabitant of any nation, period. Again, this is the average person. Even America's poor lead better lives than the vast majority of people worldwide, especially the godforsaken citizens of your nation. Condolences, Yuropoor.
>>13612840 No, the Gini coefficient is a very simple indicator. There can be any number of different income distributions with the same Gini coefficient. By construction, you can't infer very much about the income distribution from the Gini coefficient, certainly not the number of people earning less than a certain amount.
>>13612896 >you can adjust the Gini coefficient with the household income Care to elaborate? Also, that image you posted is concerned with wealth inequality, whereas you have been talking about income inequality, which are distinct concepts.
But you've been blown the fuck out by every metric, my ignorant Czech friend!
Life expectancy and literacy rates proxy "health" and "education", respectively. For the average American (again, not some imaginary banker you love to hate), these two statistics tend to be higher than those in other countries, and, in good states, are higher still. Hence, it's no stretch to say that Americans living in good states (not the Mississippis and Alabamas of the nation) lead better lives than the average inhabitants of any single nation on Earth.
Again, a full two thirds of the HDI metric effectively care little about your phantom inequality, unless you think that rich people in the US have drastically higher literacy rates than poor people (100% vs 98% is not so great).
Of course, it would be nice if the American poor were to make more money and lead even better lives, but they already are quite wealthy on a worldwide scale.
>>13612953 >how are they not? you need to afford the health services and library/book stores? >read a fucking book dumb ass
Neither of those services are commodities by the economic definition. I realise this may just be a language problem you're having, but "life expectancy" and "literacy rate" are just statistics, which obviously aren't commodities.
>>13612968 wealth inequality is strictly related to income inequality? how do you think rich people get richier?
>Care to elaborate? gini is used to point out the income disparity if there is only two dollars and only 2 people, and both get one dollar each, income equality is equal if there are 3 dollars, and one guy gets 2 and the other one gets just 1 dollar, the coefficient now is lower, despite the fact that the economy is bigger
>b-bu that means even our poor people are richier! no, you have to consider the difference purchasing power, social security spending, taxes, debt etc
This is true, except what it implies is that the American poor make the same amount of money as the poor of other nations, which is, of course, false. Poor people in America receive more social security, more Medicare/Medicaid payouts, and, tend to be taxed less.
That is not to say that poverty in America is not a real thing, or not a problem, but it's ridiculous to think that the American poor lead worse lives than, say, the Rwandan poor, which can be implied with the ever-so-useless Gini statistic.
>>13613001 >But you've been blown the fuck out by every metri yes, like the amount of gang violence, mass shootings, goverment corruption, freedom shitskin migrants, pollution, heart diseases, obesity etc?
nope, you take the first place in several of those my friend
>Life expectancy and literacy rates proxy "health" and "education", respectively. For the average American (again, not some imaginary banker you love to hate), these two statistics tend to be higher than those in other countries, and, in good states, are higher still. Hence, it's no stretch to say that Americans living in good states (not the Mississippis and Alabamas of the nation) lead better lives than the average inhabitants of any single nation on Earth.
funny thing is you keep repeating this, but the only source you have to back it up is non inequality adjusted HDI the average american is up to the forehead on debt, 40% of americans cannot afford the commodities that high HDI offer I guess repeating whatever propaganda is fun, but that doesnt make it true
>>13613013 but they are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/commodity.html you need certain commodities to achieve high life expentancy or literate rates, americans dont have higher life expectancy than somalis just beause god blessed america, but because they can afford it
Again, you seek to adjust literacy rates and life expectancy to some phantom "inequality" standard, which is complete nonsense.
The wealth component of HDI is adjusted for purchasing power parity, which is indeed adjusted for differing levels of income.
So, at the end of the day, I've given you a statistic which both incorporates and addresses your fears of "inequality". It's also given on an average basis, and yet you continue to invoke some "1%" boogeyman, which, again, is nonsense.
You seem to think that some cabal of American elite will have vastly different levels of literacy than the American poor, when in reality, 100% will not so drastically inflate 98%, especially when such a group is so few in number, as you seem to imply.
So, what you've been reduced to is making offhand comments about gang shootings and and "shitskin migrants", notwithstanding that those same shitskins probably lead better lives than you do in your ex-Soviet bloc hellhole. Condolences.
>>13613048 >wealth inequality is strictly related to income inequality? Linked, but not the same at all. You should make that separation clear in your arguments.
I know what a Gini coefficient is, but you clearly have no idea above a superficial level. I asked you to elaborate on the supposed adjustment but you have failed to actually expand on that. Refer to my post here >>13612947 for a criticism of your inferences from the Gini coefficient.
Look, if you want to argue poverty rates, use actual poverty rates to support your argument, not the fucking Gini coefficient.
>>13613109 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity >The term commodity is specifically used for an economic good or service when the demand for it has no qualitative differentiation across a market.
I'm pretty sure healthcare and education have qualitative differences and demand differences, as evident by he existence of private and public schools and cheap/expensive hospitals with varying degrees of popularity.
That said, I do agree that healthcare and education are basic needs. Doesn't make the commodities though. Coffee is a commodity too, after all.
And the other anon initially attacked you because you claimed "life expectancy" and "literacy rates" are commodities which is frankly laughable.
And then refer to >>13612122 for a state-by-state basis. Again, nobody is parading Mississippi as some paragon of civilization. Additionally, IHDI refers to the difference between the living standards of the poor and rich, so, of course, a country where the rich enjoy some of the best living standards on earth (i.e. America) inflate such a metric.
>>13613280 >state-by-state basis. sorry, but that isnt adjusted for inequality something that perhaps you dont understand why its done
> Additionally, IHDI refers to the difference between the living standards of the poor and rich, so, of course, a country where the rich enjoy some of the best living standards on earth (i.e. America) inflate such a metric. basically my point glad you understand that your country is a shithole were the rich exploit the poor
Again, you fail to understand that a nation of universally poor people is not more desirable than a nation of rich and comparatively poor.
That is, effectively, what an Atkinson coefficient does. It does not care about the absolute values of literacy or life expectancy, but rather the difference between the rich and the poor. Hence, a nation with high living standards for the poor, and higher still for the rich, will be taxed by the Atkinson coefficient, leading to a lower IHDI.
Of course, this is silly, which is why IHDI is only used by NGOs dealing with developing the third world.
>>13613430 American here who are you trying to upset because it certainty doesn't phase me. Just because I love American cars doesn't mean I agree with everything about this country. We have a lot of ghetto basketball americans and mexicans. Also all the dam baby boomer fucks don't help either. Listen I realize America has fucked up a lot of shit with all these wars, israel shilling, feminism, degeneracy but you gotta admit american cars are like a delicious piece of cake you can't help but having.
>>13613465 > if you make fun of america and it's stupid citizens you must be European There's more than two continents in this world dip shit Maybe if McDonald's put little maps of the world in happy meals instead of toys you choke on you all wouldn't be so retarded
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