Little nuggets of outdoor lore that others may or may not know.
>The moss that grows off trees makes great tinder
>Carry a lighter. Making fire like a caveman may be cool, but fire on demand may save your life
>When hunting, avoid walking over hills. Even animals that aren't terribly visual will notice you
>Birds are basically solar powered, if you want to catch them, climbing the tree at night is your best bet
>Pretty fucking obvious, but learn the area you will be staying in. Poisonous animals, edible plants, seasonal hazards, predators and how to avoid them.
In many cases, predators are easier to trick/trap than tasty prey animals. They arent used to being preyed upon and their 'attack and eat that' attitude makes them more predictable, easier to trap or kill.
I think there is a miscommunication on moss types. there is that weird grey green moss that grows on some cedars and stuff. and the is the squishy greenstuff that will grow at the foot of trees
>Bring moleskin, or some similar blister bandages with your first aid kit. Makes any blisters you get much less shitty.
>Run a thin cord inside the roof of your tent (most tents have spots to do this). Lets you hang shit to dry/store and adds almost no weight.
Fortunately for all the people who aren't cunts, you're probably not the only revolting little cocksucker who's out there so you could equally end up washing your face in shit.
We'll just have to take that as consolation.
Someone said birds can be caught by climbing trees at night. Alternatively, if you arent much of a climber...
> plant a bed of stakes in the ground, unsharpened sticks will do, should be about half a foot apart
> should look like a miniature forest
> spread your bait amongst the sticks (seeds, nuts, gathered berries or worm pieces, whatever you have)
> hide in nearby bushes
> wait for birds, ideally a flock
> emerge and attack with many many rocks
> the bed of stakes pre vents wings being spread to fly, keeping them on the ground for precious rock pelting seconds
> throw as many rocks as possible
> collect any dead or injured birds, rebait if necssary, adjust stakes if necessary
> repeat until meal achieved
Streams just under melting ice contain microscopic parts of rock and will fuck your digestive system.
This kind of stream usually go to a small mountain lake. Due to the lack of other lifeforms, this water contain a huge quantity of bacteria.
After the lake, there is another stream. The water will be charged in oxygen and this kill the bacterias. This is the best place to get water.
If you've scraped your leg, you can use TP or paper towel to give yourself a harder scab to protect the wound. Once the bleeding's stopped and it's oozing the yellow stuff, put the TP on the wound and let it soak it up. Leave the wet TP on and let it dry.
Also, if you don't have a maul to split wood, but you don't want to get your hatchet (if you have one) stuck, carve a few hardwood wedges and use a big stick or a rock as a mallet. Use the hatchet to start a crack and the wedges will go in fine. Although you won't need to often, you can also use wedges to free a stuck tool.
Dryer lint makes for a great firestarter even in small amounts since it can catch from sparks fairly easily.
you know when you can tell its the same butthurt guy whinging after like 5 posts? I can tell youre that guy. Shit in the river was a valid, yet gross and unethical inawoods technique. What derailed the thread was boy scout outers complaining about what this does for other campers, seemingly forgetting that people who shit in the river dont give a fuck about other campers.
Tl; dr: your moral faggot persistance is feeding the trolls. Its time to stop posting son.
I for one will not make a useless post, and actually include thread relevant advice.
> dont discard the guts and entrails of your kills, unless you live in an area with large predators
> pile the guts and offal away from camp and create your own maggot farm
> you cant eat rotten meat, but you can eat the grubs that feed on it, or use them as bait
>Shit in the river was a valid, yet gross and unethical inawoods technique.
>forgetting that people who shit in the river dont give a fuck about other campers.
Maybe we're just not all as big assholes as you are? The thought of going around purposefully fucking up the cleanliness of the river is pretty childish really.
Pic or it didn't happened.
While I am pro bic, I doubt that you can light anything else than gas. Since it will take years before it run out of gas, and since you can carry a large pack with low weight penalty, this is not an issue anyway.
Pic related, it happen 100 time a day around the river. Deal with it.
You are made of dinosaur shit, deal with it too.
Not that guy, but I don't think you can have used bics all that much if you think they last for years. I just use them for starting fires/lighting candles and shit and usually need a new one every couple of months. Even still though, they're so cheap there's almost no reason not to toss 3 or 4 in your sack on any journey.
As for lighting with just the sparks, I haven't started a full fire that way, but have used them to set little pieces of paper on fire when bored with a used lighter. So it's at least possible.
Even still. Try telling anyone into hiking and camping face to face that you shit directly in the river just cause and see their reaction. You know it's a shitty thing to do, so stop acting as if it makes you mr cool bro.
> implying I shit in the river
Son, stop. Seriously. Remember this is an anonymous board and there is nothing to be gained. You can stop and walk away, no one IRL need ever know. Its time to walk away son.
> many trees produce edible sap, suxh as birch maple and pine
> bore your hole on the trunk, angled upwards and just below a limb for maximum harvest
I'm not going anywhere. But any time anyone promotes shitting in a river, be it the original guy or you I'm going to point out that it's pointless and disgusting. This is supposed to be a thread of "little nuggets of outdoor lore that others may or may not know" let's just try and keep it civil and on topic.
Of your many, many samefagging replies, not one has contained advice or lore.
Instead you have spent your time bitching about a single anonymous posters unethical practices. PROTIP: you're making no difference to him doing that.
Its like you dont get the internet at all. Dont feed the trolls.
>humans produce natural oils in their hair
>rubbing the male joint of a fishing rod against your temple is a good way to ease it into the female joint easier
> use your greasy scalp to lubricate all kinds of things
Not sure if human oil can protect metal or be used for non lubricating purposes
>349487 was my first post here.
But since you like those kinds of posts, here's my sweet tip then. Never take your trash out of the woods with you. It will only weigh you down and fuck what other campers think.
> implying I condone shitting in a river
> giving bad advice and becoming the asshole you claim to be against
At this point I assume you are the troll, and its time to stop feeding you.
>crayons can be used as an emergency candle
> shaving a crayon into tinder makes better tinder
> mash up apples with crayons for squirrel bait, this stuff is like squirrel crack
For trapping fish, its easy to set lines and weave baskets, but if the water is small and moving, its easier to stake it across a knee deep point and make a latticework dam. This holds all fish moving upstream at that point. A further mobile latticework can be constructed and moved upstream to herd fish into a greater density for easier catching.
You light like 5 or 10 cigarette every day, plus the candles.
What you need to light a cigarette is what you need to light a fire. My 1000 fire is a good guess. 5 time a pair of month is close to a full year.
I am this anon: >>349444
Another advice: when collecting water, use a transparent bottle. I once saw like 10 leeches smaller than a cm.
You so wouldn't get diarrhea that way. The immune system of your rectum and colon can take care of some serious shit...literally.
It's just bs to think that some water gently flowing around your butt would get you sick. Ever taken a swim in a river or a lake before?
You can hunt at night with just a torch. If you have an intense beam, it can freeze an animal in its tracks. You can walk right up to a rabbit and club it with a bright enough lamp. The lamp can freeze deer long enough to shoot.
I recommend a cheap cree, make sure its zoomable and as high a lumen output as you can find.
I read this in another thread, but it seems honeybee stings on a tickbite will prevent lyme disease. The article linked simply said bee venom, though anon specified honeybee. This may work for other types of bee
You seem upset friend. Did you perhaps get a stick jammed up your ass last time you were innawoods? Little bit of butthole lovin' in private in the great outdoors? Does it hurt? I suggest going to the doctor and getting it removed, pain makes you cranky friend.
With luck you can be better in a matter of weeks and you can return to fulfilling your homoerotic needs. But only with lube and safe toys friend! Lol!
Yours in friendship, friend.
The nastiness of your maggot farm suggestion is mind blowing
This shit killed me.
>Make noise as you walk/hike to scare off predators
>Keep a bearing by keeping the sun on one side of your head(obviously flipping sides mid-day or so)
>Don't be afraid to drink water from a river, stream, or lake in NA
>Avoid giardia by washing hands, dishes, and utensils with soap and water before and after use
I would look into rigging a woven grass net to toss over the whole shebang. Or even your tarp or what have you. Or even flailing the fuck out of it with a bough. Use vertical strokes to slam the birds into the ground between the stakes.
always hunt walking against the wind, all animals smell better than you can.
build a fire that will go all night by building a small ramp for wood to trickle into the fire on. use only big logs or the fire will spread.
make char cloth innawoods naturally by using cat tails. dig a hole next to a fire, place the cat tails in there then place a small fire on top of it.
goats are the best bang for your buck animal you can take innawoods with you.
burdock(the plant with those annoying velcro like burrs) is highly edible. you can eat the large leaves like salad, boil the roots like potatoes, and the burrs can be used as a natural velcro as modern velcro was modeled after them.
desalinate water by boiling it into a metal tube, cover this tube with a damp cloth and periodically poor dirty cool water on it. this will turn the water vapor back into water which is desalinated.
use rubbing alcohol on your feet weeks before a long trek to harden them up and reduce blisters.
dave canterbury taught me everything i know
>make char cloth innawoods naturally by using cat tails. dig a hole next to a fire, place the cat tails in there then place a small fire on top of it.
i should also say that you need to recover the processed cattails before putting the fire over it.
you can construct a winch with heavy cordage and 2 logs(pic related).
these winches are powerful enough to level a house, although they are most often used to winch cars out of rough spots.
tie whats in the diagram to a tree and winch away
I prefer athletic tape over moleskin and duct.
Athletic tape can be used as a bandage/dressing directly over small wounds, it breathes. On top of that you can use it to treat sprains and support joints. Also athletic tape sticks to sweaty skin and won't fall off like duct tape will.
Medical tape works too, but it doesn't breathe so its not good as athletic tape for a band-aid replacement.
some people get pairs of goats and use them as such.
personally i just like how a full grown can carry 30 lbs of gear while eating most of its food/water on the way. most of its water comes from grass so it doesnt need to stop by streams constantly.
The bee venom is "apitoxin" and the stuff in it that is so powerful is "melittin" get it some research.>Melittin also exhibits potent anti-microbial activity. For example, melittin has been shown to exert "profound inhibitory effects" on Borrelia burgdorferi, the bacteria that causes lyme disease. Melittin has also been shown to kill the yeast Candida albicans and to suppress Mycoplasma hominis and Chlamydia trachomatis infections.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melittinhttp://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/25/Supplement_1/S48
It has been my go-to cure for moderate infections
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>Bears have something called "hypo sensitive eye function". What that means basically is that they can not see very fast movements. Their brains can't process it. If you are fast enough you can escape a bear or sneak by without it seeing you. (It can still smell and hear you so be careful)
>Snake venom is a great anti bacterial and viral substance. Catch a poisonous snake to disinfect food and water. Your stomach acid takes care of the poison.
>Try building your camp in front of a bear cave or other areas with a lot of predatory animals. Local animals will leave you alone because they are afraid of those animals.
>Never, under any circumstance sleep more than 4 hours at a time. Humans are the only animals that sleep more than 3 hours/day. Local animals will think you are dead and signalize their pack that there is a fresh carcass to be eaten.
4 nuggets my grandpa taught me.
It's funny because the snake venom won't kill you if you drink it but the fact that it isn't an antimicrobial will.
Motherfucker... Did you just say humans are the only animals that sleep more than 4 hours a day.
Did you just say camp near predators to ward off non predators. "I'm tired of these deer and squirrel, lets camp next to the bear cave"
Catching a venomous snake without knowing how will most likely result very poorly
Running from a bear is a horrible idea.
I know that this is obviously a troll post, but goddamn make it less obvious. You're just trying too hard.
>DALE: It's true, bee venom is the penecillin of the 21st century! It cures everything from toothaches to ADD! Isn't that right, young Joseph?
>JOSEPH: My head hurt. But now it doesn't.
>DALE: Step right up and tell me what ails you!
>MAN # 1: My neck's kind of stiff.
>DALE: Eight bee stings. You?
>WOMAN: I feel fine.
>DALE: Six bee stings. You?
>MAN # 2: Planters wart.
>DALE: Ugh! Thirteen bee stings.
anything resembling poison ivy, the old adage is "leaves of three, let them be"
The whole point of the rocks is speed. The birds will escape the sticks in maybe 3 seconds. A hammock or net is going to take longer to throw and unfurl correctly.
Unless the net was staked above, ready to be dropped like a trap. But in that case, the stick forest isnt needed at all.
I understand a net could have a higher catch rate, but its that much more difficult to deploy correctly.
Except that strawberries and many raspberries have three leaves as well, not to mention a host of other benign plants. Meanwhile poison sumac which is even more virulent than poison ivy has multiple leaves. And just handling the innocent looking water hemlock and then eating something without washing your hands can be deadly.
A better piece of advice is to just learn to recognize the dangerous plants in your area. There really aren't that many.
>Should you dry the moss first?
If you know what club moss looks like, collect the spore pods and dry them in a bag for a few days. You're left with the spores which is called lycopodium powder. It's amazing stuff. 110% waterproof, natural lubricant , and can be used as a flash powder that won't burn your skin or start secondary fires. It's not very useful innawoods but it makes for some great party tricks.
You can build an oven using a hole lined with fire heated stones. Place food in center, add more stones and green foliage to prevent soil from getting at it, then bury it. Dig it up in a couple of hours for your roast
but how am i going to be hardcore like all these survival show guys if I don't take a journey out into the middle of nowhere with little water and no lighter?
lol seriously though, take a bic, shit, you can probably fit at least 3 in your change pocket alone
I bet you're the kind of guy who opens up the oven
> dinners ready!
> oh boy daddy
> daddy why don't you take the chicken out?
> its much too hot son, we'll just have to wait until it cools down before we can move it
> daddy I'm tired of room temperature dinner, I want the hot dinner that other people eat
> can't we use some kind of tool or protection to allow us to move the roast whilst its hot?
> Son, I think if such things existed I would have heard of them
> now come sit and watch your dinner cooling on the middle oven shelf
Tldr nigger do you even sticks
wtf is wrong with u? if ur innawoods you wanna stay under a tree, for the same reason to have a fire under a tree.
you're somewhat protected from the elements (rain/snow/wind) , it helps trap the heat from the fire, and the smoke will repel most insects from said shelter.
as long as you're not camping under a dead christmas tree you'll be fine.
Sing old show tunes and musical numbers, but replace key words with "bear". Bears are so sensitive to puns that hearing "Some Bear Over the Rainbow" will cause them to commit swift suicide.
Seriously, if it's a black bear, hang everything with an odor where he can't reach it. If he still comes around, make an assload of noise and chase him while throwing things at him. 99.999% of black bears run away from people.
>daddy I'm tired of room temperature dinner, I want the hot dinner that other people eat
8/10 m8, I laffed.
Cattails have a white part near the roots that can be eaten raw and is full of starch. Simply pull them up to harvest. As they are so abundant you can usually get a good meal. All white parts of the plant can be eaten.
Whilst the white parts can be eaten raw, its probably safer to cook it as you'll be pulling them from untreated water.
>Cattails have a white part near the roots that can be eaten raw and is full of starch.
The small young ones are like bland tasting baby carrots but once they get much
more then finger length, they become stringy and need preparation.
The young ones taste vaguely like cucumber to me.
Mature ones are best sliced up and boiled into a soup.
In an emergency you can chew on them and swallow the juice to get out as much of the good stuff as you can and then spit out the wad of stringy crap you're left with.
You can pick honeysuckle flowers, nip off the green stem part and suck the base of the petals to get the nectar. They're sweet and pleasant, not always a great deal of nectar per flower but they usually grow in abundance, and they're much nicer tasting than most things you can find or gather, and bitches are always impressed by it.
Easy to get them to suck elsewhere namsayin?
in new eland we eat this sometimes especially if you're a fucking nig
hell I just ate one of these the other week called a fucking hangi here basically you dig a big hole then kick in a fucking sheep booyah
Uk outers, in late autumn, often as late as beginning of november here, you can harvest magic mushrooms.
Look anywhere you find long grass for little broan mushrooms.
The features you need to know are: nipple capped, stem lighter or the same colour as cap, and gills darker than the stem and cap.
That's how you identify the common liberty cap. Where you find one, you can find dozens in manu cases.
Spread them on a sheet of newspaper to dry. 30 fresh liberty caps is a good dose, but when dried they can be weighed for accuracy.
There is a terrifying amount on roadsides around the ditches that fill up with water, this year here in Delaware. I ride a bike and try not to let it even come close to touching my leg.
Are you sure it's hemlock? It's actually fairly rare these days as far as I know because so many people kill it. But cow parsnip and hogweed look very similar and are more common. Even still, you're wise to avoid it either way. Misidentifying hemlock is a one time mistake and even some otherwise benign hogweeds have a light activated sap that can cause sever dermatitis as well.
Turn an old cast iron or steel cooking pot into a tar/charcoal maker. Drill a hole in the bottom, this allows tar to runoff. It helps if this is off to the side of the bottom, so a fire can be built around the rest of the pot.
Fill the pot with freshly cut pine, pack as many chips and pieces in as you can. Now put the lid on, adding earth or clay round the rim to help keep it sealed. Have your pot on a slightly raised platform, with a small cal inder the hole in the bottom to collect tar.
Light a fire under and around the rest of the pot. The wood will turn to charcoal which can be collected later, and you will also collect pine resin tar which has waterproofing and sticking properties, as well as being a good fuel by itself for torches and such.
Do it with a paint can or similar and put it inside another, larger container to collect the tar before you start cooking it.
Birch also works well for this and can be used as liquid smoke for seasoning food.
Isn't birch tar AKA birch oil? The stuff they use for making birch beer?
Also this device sounds an awful lot like a wood gasifier. Is there any difference between a gasifier and charcoal maker?
Never heard of birch beer but birch wine is made from the sap you get from tapping the trees in late Feb/early March. It's clear and high in sugar. You can reduce it down to make syrup which is good in baking.
Birch tar is made by cooking birch bark or twigs/woodchips ina sealed environment and collecting the run off. It's brownish black like treacle when warm and pretty stiff when cold. Add powdered charcoal to it and it makes a pretty hard glue. A drop or two in a shot of whiskey is a nice addition to marinades.
I don't know much about gasifiers but I think it's a similar method. You're just harnessing the gases released by cooking the wood rather than letting them escape to the atmosphere.
What the fuck for? I'm already familiar with the technique. Why would I want to watch that little gobshite herping his derp over his first attempt.
If that's you in the video then you deserve a slap for digging in the soil with a knife.
while it's all well and good for people who know what they are doing to get mushies ( which are awesome) it's pretty dangerous for the average joe to do. Mushrooms are next level poisonous, if you get the wrong type.