Well i've been living in Germany for quit some time. The Laws here are pretty straight foreward when it comes to knives. Police already took a very good knive from me because i could snap it open with one Hand. I walked back home- in frustration anger and tears- an fucked up another knife of mine so that Police can't take it with them if they stop me again.
What was ur worst Knife Fuckep?
German No 2 reportin in.
I carry my Blades in the backpack... until I am outside a City/village.
I never would "fuck up" a knife only because of Policeslaves/law
german no.3 repotin in
welp that one fugged up knife
look at this pic the blade length is defined s the length to the parry guard. (red length)
you dont look at the cutting edge (yellow) and you dont subtract the bottom bit (green) just because its different.
it needs to be shorter then 12 cm or it will never be legal
most accurate summary i have seen in the past is >http://www.vivalranger.com/index.php/wissensdatenbank/outdoorrecht/96-outdoorrecht-teil-i-messer-machete-multitools
(this covers other out door legal stuff in the other sections)
but if you carry it in your bag you will almost never have any problems.
unless you cause suspicion that the knife could be use as weapon and not as a tool. if you look like a homeless guy at the train station at 3 am you might get fucked. if you are sharpening your stick to bbq some sausage at the baggersee no one will give a shit.
I already grinded the tip down to 11.9 CM
now its a batoning knife only. and its 100%legal. but if i compare it to how it looked before i'm nearly burst into tears ;)
I never had the problem with police and I have been carrying illegal knife on a daily basis. I was never searched, I dont even understand how can someone get searched..
Just dont give them any reason to search you and you are all set. Also, the whole point of /out/ is going to places where there is no police, right? If you were waving your knife around in public, I guess you were wrong..
Beside, knife is a terrible, utterly terrible thing for self defense/protection. How can you protect yourself with a knife? You are just going to kill that other person. Even if you do not have a moral problem with killing, its still an awful thing because they will lock you up.
Those small expendable batons are easy to carry, easy to conceal, can break a leg or an arm easily, can incapacitate person with ease, and it will not kill them.
I 'accidentally' into a right wing meeting on my way home from work near my house.
Commies protesting so there where some police around, but fairly calm.
Suddenly plain clothes cop/agent grabbed my arm and was like "you have a knife! he have a knife here! why you have a knife?" etc. I was wearing my work gear and I carry a Mora in a side pocket.
I somehow managed to talk myself out of the situation and the police just took my mora 2000 (without its sheath lolwut) and sent me away, still carrying a box cutter and a scissor... Pretty lucky I wasn't arrested and given a fine which would probably have been around 1000-1500€.
>mfw the police stole my Mora.
yeah it was a good looking knife.
but be careful there might be extra laws in some circumstances. like when there more people around, like if the is a demonstration near by or even just a escorted football club on their way back from the game. or troubled areas like nightlife districts.
when i was young i was stopped by the police (for setting off fireworks of season lel ) they stopped so i knew i was busted and started walking towards them, and while i was passing behind a parking car i dropped my butterfly knife on the ground along with lots of other shit.
>visibly carrying anything """dangerous""" in public
You shitlords do not seem to understand the emotional response 99.9% of stupid people have. Congratulations I guess.
If you wear a knife in public, wear it like I do. Pin it to your underwear, behind your pants. That way no one can see it and no one can go "omgomgomg cereal killer" on your ass.
>explaining to people that tools are tools
You get what you deserved..
I wasnt dressed up like osama or something. i was just wandering around the mountains in bavaria with a friend of mine when suddenly a car passed by and two cops jumped out. aggressive as shit- i had no chance, it was just a regular folding knive but the hurensöhne totally jerked of about it. they thought i'm a drug transport guy. plus they hated the fuck out of me when they became aware that i'm from Berlin.
It's common for construction workers to open carry knives here. I edc folders with civvie clothes and have never had any problem. I leave it home if I'm going on football/soccer games etc. where there are pet downs or there's an increased risk of being detained. I prefer to underwear carry in the front as there's less chance of detection if only casually frisked and also 'faster' deployment.
Man I live in Serbia, a shithole: the country, and I never had to 'fast deploy' a knife. I assume you are a first world citizen (as in actual first world, western Europe and such) so I really, really doubt that you will ever in your life have to be faster then the other guy because your life depends on it..
You might bump in on some merry drunkard or some scared kid trying to pickpocket you, and in your paranoia you might kill the poor idiot. Seriously, you cant defend with a knife. Not even with slashes. You are just going to end locked up for a very, very long time over a very, very stupid life decision.
Knife is a useful tool, but absolutely horrid for self defense in an environment full of police and laws and courts and 'civilization'.
>A-are your a terrorist?
Maybe. I am a free thinker.
The mafia here (Sweden) was pretty much run by serbs in the 80s and 90s. And now we have to deal with all the arabs and niggers coming here. I have friends that have been experienced this multiculturalism in the forms of stabbing mugging and rape. You shouldn't assume so much.
I've never had to use a knife against someone else and I hope I'll never have to do that. One must remember that anything you carry can be taken from you and be used against you. But it's an equalizer and I rather have it on me than not.
Well that's because Sweden is tumblr: the country. Here in Serbia, criminals have to move to Sweden to do crime. And what is up with writing Sweden with capital S and Serbs with a lower case s?
Swedish stupidity is Swedish problem I guess... enjoy rape and violent crime and immigration from actual 3rd world and theft and so on. You chose it.
I swear, multiculturalism is ONE thing I will never, for the life of me understand. I will go to my grave without understand why would someone want cultures that perform worse over cultures that perform better.
New york state knife laws are weird. From what I understand anything thats not spring loaded or weird exotic weapons (sword canes, punch knives, throwing stars) are legal based on intent. Meaning, I could carry a sword down my pants, so long as I didn't plan on stabbing someone with it. I guess? I suppose if you wanted a knife for self defense, used it for such, then got arrested for it, you'd still come out ahead, being still alive.
Unless Im in the woods I just carry a pocketknife anyway.
We, the germans, are aloud of carring a fulltang knife up to12 cm. But anything that can be operated with one hand, no matter how small, is considered a weapon and will result in high priced tolls to pay up to50000 € . of couse i cant Carry a knife in public railways, big places and so on.
I assume you can somehow disguise and carry it, no? Like, having a folder but in a cellphone frame, or in a medicine container or something like that? That is, if you really think knife can protects..
how in fug did you get stopped by the police and searched? r u a turk?
>if you really think knife can protects
It's one guy's opinion, but food for thought if you think you're going to use a knife for "self defence".
ITT: OP is an autistic kid that cries over his knife being confiscated.
If it's the law not to have one, and you broke the law, don't cry over losing the knife. If it was so fucking valuable then you shouldn't have been running around with it trying to be wanabee tacticool.
Since when have germans been such cry-babies
op seems to from berlin which is like the most "progressive" city in Germany, all the hipsters, anti-vaxers, wanna be revolutionary are contained there. not that i want to shit on op but draw your conclusions
its a simple case of: if you do the crime you do the time. op hoped for leniency but didn't get so now hes mad at the "man".
OP should get an Opinel or a Douk Douk. Or a SAK. Or a Case. Or a Mercator. Or a Buck 110. Or a Higo No Kami. So many good knives. A shame you can't carry one hand opening knives, there's a lot of great designs out there. Hmm, I guess a fixed blades and nail nicks for you.
You can carry a mchete if that is your wish. You have, however, to be able to say why. If you whack bush, then that is called a Bedürfnis. If you carry a 30cm butchers knife and you are about to cut meat, than that is a Bedürfnis as well.
Softair kids with full camo and a double edged attack knife can't just say they are on a batoning quest.
Besides, the law was made for the city, police don't patrol the forrests in germany.
Also, if there is a law, you better obey it unless you have a reason not to. Imagine the gubbermint would not obey it because it's inconvenient, you would be pissed.
mfw you just named in order from left to right all of the knives i have sitting next to my computer monitor apart from my Okapi on the end
nope quit not.
But it's not about "protecting" or some shit. I just like to carry a knife because i might need it to cut stuff. or screw stuff or what ever the fuck i wan't to do with a knife in the fucking Mountains.
I like the landscape but most of the people there suck.
Besides i was never stopped here in Berlin. Just in Fucking Bavaria. Cops here can be pretty cool but Cops Down there are fucking Nazis.
This threat is going ways :D pure fgtry
Yea come to america and then maybe you can complain about cops. I've lived in bavaria for 3 years now and have never had a problem with the police. They are pretty nice guys really. I also carry a knife but I made sure it was legal (folder, 9cm, two hand opening), so really this is all your own fault.
Seriously though, I see all the bullshit FUCK THE POLICE and ACAB graffiti and really you germans don't know how good you have it with cops.
shove some more Leberkas down ya gullet you fat Lederhosen-wearing fuck.
Not much about us cops makes it to ausfag news other than some black kid acting like a nigger and getting shot every now and then, only thing ive really seen is them choking that huge black guy to death who was doing nothing wrong, that was pretty fucked up
I'm a student, Czech, I carry a small folder (can open it with one hand, kek). I've got a nice greentext that happened to me.
>be at electroworld
>buying headphones for Xmas for mom
>older couple in front of me buying vacuum cleaner
>old man says "Could you show us how this one button system works?"
>salesman goes to open box
>no box cutters
>Tactically take my folder out of pants pocket
>hand it by the blade to the salesman
>Old guy: "No good man without a knife, right?"
>Old woman: "I've got one too, you know. You were faster"
>"Glad I could help"
>Chat pleasantly with couple
They took it as a completely normal thing for me to have a knife. Each of them carried one, as I found out.
On second thought, I may have pointed with the blade at the salesman before flipping grip.
>mfw I almost unwittingly looked like a robber
>mfw no one looked at me twice, no problem
my god i feel bad for you europeans. seriously being disarmed basically make you no better than a slave! you cant even have a small knife, that just blows my mind.
>Tfw I'm an American
>Tfw I never have to worry about the size of my knife or whether I'm allowed to carry it innawoods
Feels great man
>tfw live in Australia
>tfw can be arrested for carrying any sort of blade on my person
also how is OP's knife 'fucked up' ? looks pretty normal to me.
you should go to commieforina... its about as bad as Europe at this point. for fucks sake they discard federal laws now, without any fucking reproductions
also doesn't few states have a 4 inch blade length law for folders?
>see thumbnail about m-tech extreme call of duty knife
>mfw it's just op gone full retard
also this thread is full of myths and bullshit and none of the other germans even read the law
Well it's like with the US, but asshurt moms don't demand action here. If we have an assault at school, it's usually a person off meds and armed with a knife/screwdriver. But the based laws mean that ANYONE (even a really dumb and irrational person) can get their hands on a gun. That's the scary part, other than that, law's based as fuck. /out/ and /k/ heaven.
Das Problem ist der Klapp/Springmechanismus. Das ist generell verboten - bei begründetem Interesse (!immer in Wald/Wiesen/Feldern/Camping/Hiking!) darf man jederzeit auch ein Messer mit mehr als 12 cm Klingenlänge führen. Beschlagnahmte Messer kann man zurückfordern, gibt ein Schreiben bei der Pozilei dafür.
Als Pfadfinder/Schützenvereinsler etc darf man auch dank Traditionsparagraphen immer sein Messer führen. Bin in Pfadi-Kluft schon mit 16cm Takelmessern rumgelaufen und die Polizei hat mich nur gebeten, am Bahnhof das ding in den Rucksack zu stecken.
Verboten sind verbotene Gegenstände (Spring/Butterflymesser, Messer über 30cm Länge -> Hieb/Stichwaffen) und das FÜHREN in der Öffentlichkeit. Im Rucksack, kein problem. Nur wenn man damit am Gürtel rumläuft darf man sich nicht über Grün/Weiß wundern...
To all foreignfags: Just keep it in your backpack and nothing happens to you. It is legal to have a big knife for camping/hiking - just not to carry it open and ready to use.
Forbidden are only Butterfly and one-hand lockable folding knifes.
Just has to be less than 3 inches in blade length, folding and non-locking
If you want one that doesnt fall into the above category you just need a reason and going out is perfectly valid for a small fixed blade knife.
Also noone will stop and search you of you arent dressed like an innercity "yoof"
Like i said, the knife laws are made as rubberlaws to fuck up inner city sandniggers.
Not a problem for generic germans. But hey, muh gubbermint is cutting into muh freedoms!
Shout Grüß Gott and do that cross thingy next time.
I take it you're a Brit.
What's a better place to visit; north or south Wales. No hiking or anything just your average family holiday with car and shit.
>balaclavas banned/full facial mask in public with no work relation. one of those laws that exist just to stick more shit onto bankrobbers. criminal. rapists. biker gangs .etc
>walking home wearing balaclava cause cold as fuck
>policecar stop by the road
>ask me if im gonna do anything illegal
>ask i want a ride home
>you sure? its cold out tonight
>yea im okay
now. i dislike big government as much as the next guy. but with some of these laws. if you are not a retard and varying your forest knife at the night club. you gonna be fine
america is great, my dad was born in 1912 and he told me about how he used to where a meat cleaver on his belt into elementary and high school school. Wore it everyday. I carry a swiss army knife, a oldtimer 152 and a buck 119 on my person everyday.
Well, as a mid 20s Aussie I feel like I'd have more luck with the openly corrupt coppers in Indonesia than the ones in the US.
None of the Indonesian cops will bother to pretend they aren't bent and I can actually afford the ridiculous bribes because of the exchange rate.
I'm too afraid to go to the US, not because I think I'll be mugged by some gang banger but because I might sneeze next to a copper and get shot and raped and arrested in that order.
>Do you want a lift home? It's cold
>... So. What bank were you going to rob?
mfw I wear my tube scarf over face in public and no one gives a fuck
So I got this Puma pocket knife from my grandfather and it was a bitch to open for a long time, constantly breaking my fingernails. I read around online a bit and came across this 'tutorial' on how to loosen it up and make it easier to open. So I put it in a bath of hot water and dish soap for over night. When I checked it out the next morning, three of the tools (the ones pictured) were completely loose swinging out with gravity alone. There's absolutely no resistance whatsoever holding them inside. However, the other three tools on the other side of the pocket knife are even stuck even more now and almost impossible to open.
Does anybody know what exactly I did to my knife? How can a bit of soap change metal this drastically over night? How do I fix a pocket knife that is loose/stubborn and doesn't have any screws? Please excuse my English.
Opines will one hand open once they're worn and oiled, mine flicks open. Also with something like a douk douk you can attack a lanyard to your belt or belt loop and pull the blade to open it, I can do it I'm one smooth motion.
Viele Einhandmesser- und Fausmesser sind eh für den Arsch. Der Hintergrund ist, dass in Frankfurt die Kollega mit Papiermessern rumgelaufen sind und die Polizei keine Handhabe hatte - deshalb wurde der Einhandparagraph eingeführt. Weil das ganze nicht anständig evaluiert worden ist, weiß kein Polizist, wie das Gesetz gedacht war und es werden wahllos Messer einkassiert. Wichtig: Sofern kein verbotener Gegenstand der Vernichtung nicht zustimmen! Ihr könnt das Ding dann auf der Polizeiwache mit einem verschließbaren Behälter abholen. Außerdem: Keine Straftat, sondern nur eine OWI.
@Amerifucks: Not interesting for you at all. Knifes are no weapons (basically unusuable for self defence) but tool.
Holy fuck this thread makes me want to smuggle all of you a good knife. Why do your countries suck so hard?
>meanwhile pic related was a gift from my math teacher.
kek. Our laws are pretty shit but i carry knives everyday in the city and carry axes and big knives in the woods. No one really cares if you're not a chav or gypsy.
I live in Sydney and I don't even own a proper knife because it's too much of a hassle to find one. All I take camping is a Swiss army knife. It's a Scouts Victorinox one. I don't really need anything else to be honest.
Hey, you can get searched even if you're white
The most embarrassing time was when I had to say "I may have a screwdriver and other miscellaneous tools in my side pocket".
I was dismantling a TV on the side of the road, they had me handcuffed.
(But then released me after 5 minutes.)
so what about a sheath knife? I can operate that with one hand. In Canada I think the laws are similar (nope. looking it up apparently no size restriction!) but mainly switchblades and stuff were the no-no. Where I live people actually get stabbed fairly regularly so I'm an advocate of not carrying a knife around in urban areas.
Anyway the laws were clear and you broke them OP. Don't talk to the cops, talk to the legislators if you want to change it. Maybe they were dicks but it was also their duty to confiscate the knife. I don't see what good destroying another knife does, although +1 point for destroying a gerber.
despite the appearance of 'save alive dump the knife' shit media campaigns we see here in the UK, I've had this several times.
>be in supermarket
>cashier struggles with sealed bad of change
>unclip swissarmy knife from keys, flip and pass over the handle
>gratuitous response from queue behind me
>be in Halfords (autoshop type place)
>guy ahead of me has jut paid for a combi spanner to do something to his car outside
>he's trying to chew the spanner free of the plastic packaging
>same as before unclip swiss army knife, flip and pass over to him
>look of awe on his face, was like primitive man making fore for the 1st time...
>be at zoo with wife last summer
>sit down for picnic lunch
>pop out pocket knife to slice a bit of pork pie
>stressed out farther with 2 screaming kids is wrestling with overpriced toys bought at the giftshop
>spots pocket knife
>asks if he can borrow it, give it a wipe and hand over
>mfw his significant other says 'you should have something like that too' to him
>mfw my wife says she wants one too
carrying one on you is fine really as long as it's not some ferocious and stabby looking tacticool shank, and you're not flashing it around, or attracting attention to yourself
not a knife fuckup, but knife related. Just dropped my ceramic rods and they snapped. Was planning on upgrading to dia+cer lansky kit, but i'm still somewhat annoyed.
And no one but my clumsy self to blame.
>as long as it's not some ferocious and stabby looking tacticool shank