>>488374 The problem with Dual Survival is, that you don't learn any survival skills. Matt Graham is some sort of a wilderness survival expert, but he doesn't share any of his knowledge with the audience. Then this other guy knows nothing about survival. In one of the last episodes he had a Doan Machinery magnesium block/ferro rod firestarter, a tampon and a lipstick, and some kerosine wood, he didn't know how to use the firestarter and actually called it a "Magnesium rod".
He had no idea how to shave off the magnesium into a pile, he scattered it all over the place. He scraped the ferro insert fucking 18 times and still didn't manage to light the magnesium shavings.
>For him it was "the most challenging fire he's ever made."
Then in the other episode it turned out he doesn't even know how to light a match https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UsbSMplJ6g4#t=167 And he tried to use matches while they were damp (and ruining them).
>>488312 I've been watching Ultimate Survival Alaska since the beginning. It's scripted, but I always get a good laugh when they get wet and continue on like it was nothing. It's even funnier when they get into accidents deliberately. Each leg takes 60 hours, but somehow every team gets to the flag within minutes, usually one team comes late and finishes just seconds before deadline. The show makes no sense, but it is entertaining to watch. The actors are mostly ok and there are some smart and some less smart, even crazy characters. And every time something crazy happens, film is cut and they show this Ultimate Survival Alaska -flag and you hear this wolf howling. It's crazy. I don't think the show is intended to be a comedy but that's what it is.
>>488802 Makes me think of one I watched where they
>Tear up the map >"In the spirit of Chris McCandles!" >are like 5 miles away from their destination with only a single hill in the way that will give them a vantage on the extremely open tundra
If they needed to consult a map for that then shit.......
>Make 10 people who know nothing about outdoors go to alaska >Give them tarps with ropes to put all their stuff in >They catch a mouse after 3 days of no food >One lady freaks out and quits when they didn't save her approx. 20milligrams of mouse scraps >No one can start a fire
Is there no show that doesn't just have some likeable people being reasonable and outside? Why can't there be a topgear equivalent to an outdoor program?
That 4x4 race across alaska show
>This should be interesting >It's like the iditarod race but with cars >What a cool concept, this could actually get pretty big and grow into a homologated racing series and be like the America's Cup for cars >Or an Alaskan Dakar >Or the Alaska 500 >Fuck yes! >........... >Show is just a bunch of dipshit rednecks and other assorted retards smashing 4x4s through pretty simpleton grade terrain at derkader speeds >Is all hyped up like everything on the history channel
>>488818 Kind of sort of. There was some dude who likely has a mental condition who broke down one of the episodes piece by piece to find all the discrepancies in it, and some other guy that actually went out and traced Stroud's footsteps, found some errors. Now this doesn't mean every episode is like that, but really, like all media nothing's completely real. Les is just more real than most.
>>490086 If you compare this to other survival shows it's pretty good, even if you're not interested in survival. The only problem is that these fat fucks participating always survive. In real life they would all die for not finding the nearest KFC/McDonalds in time.
You think the host having a white t-shirt is the problem?
Matt Graham, Les Stroud, and Cody Lundin are probably the most respectable hosts, and they have the most skill. Dual survival is just too scripted and Teti takes away from the episode complaining about "force protection".
Les Stroud gets my respect more than any other, and what he does is most like REAL survival. Is some of it edited for TV and scripted, OF COURSE. He still has survival experiences while filming, just sometimes things need to be added to make it entertaining. Would you watch an hour long show of a guy building a debris shelter and sitting around for 7 days hungry? No, so the production crew adds some excitement.
>>490168 To be honest most people on /out/ would be happy to see Les building a shelter for hours. 7 days is a long time and we would be interested in all things that happen during that time. We are NOT INTERESTED ABOUT FAKED DRAMA.
All other shows that I've seen are complete bullshit. Hope to see Survivorman to return with new episodes.
And Cody Lundin deserves his own TV-show, in which he calls the shots. They made him look like some kind of crazy hippie in DS while in reality he s actually a real survival expert in Arizona.
>>490225 This is old news, but still I can't believe they did this. They had all the money to fly Mr. Grylls to any place on earth. Why did they do this? Mr Grylls would have done anything they wanted him to do. I mean, he has eaten the most disgusting stuff there is just for TV. Don't blame Mr. Grylls, blame Discovery Channel.
If we are talking serious bushcraft content, on TV, then there is only ray mears, but i don't know you would call this a 'reality show'. Ray was like the proto youtube bushcrafter, except his stuff was on mainstream tv rather than youtube.
>>490342 >i now know it rustles your jimmies If unwitting people follow a liars incorrect advice, sure. If you willingly know you're listening to advice that's bad, that actually just makes me laugh, you're a new level of retard. Have at it though, you sure showed me by wanting to be misinformed!
>>488818 Les Stroud is GOAT survival instructor. If I was dropped in the woods with anybody, I would want it to be him. He would get you out alive, and well fed, and probably happy that you spent a week fighting for your life. Because he's the best.
>>489477 First of I dont watch tv and have not really seen his show for years exept from clips on youtube. I like his positiv energy and seems to be a geuinly nice guy, and have been-ther-and-done-that. If you use your common sense and sort out the bs and out right crazy stuff, he give some sound and unusual advices on how to survive. So for being a tv show I like him.
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