WHATS IN THE FUCKING BOX .... Sandy Hook edition.......
The fucking implications of all this makes my heart race, yet depresses me greatly.
what was the delasio connection?>>30050613
ok im out .. keep this shit bumped for me
I've been immortalized on /pol/
I literally never go to Sandy Hook threads at all.
>go there for first time
Everything I posted is now capped.
Glad to have been of assistance fellas.
Feels good man.
>mfw i see my own posts
>shooting yourself twice in the back of the head
Remember that there were two active-shooter exercises happening live at nearby elementary schools in Carmel, CT and Bridgeport, CT on the same morning as the Sandy Hook shootings.
Two years before, in 2010, the Sandy Hook Firehouse ran a National Response exercise to Mass Casualty shooting.
>mere coincidences goy
>pic related, its the bridgeport drill
The whole Soto thing is weird. Between the timeline thing with her classroom, none of the doors being locked, the shooped family pictures, etc. It's strange.
>changes scripted story like 7 different times in front of live national cameras
>nobody gives a fuck, still a 'hero'
I forget the last name. One of the dads came out and talked about how his son was symbolic of what a butchering it was because his son was hit like 11 times in the face or some bullshit like that.
Basically when the ballistics proved that particular claim impossible, he backpedaled and said it was a misunderstanding or some shit. Even when news outlets reached out to get the correct number, he said he still wouldn't allow anyone to publish the real number.
>nothing to hide
>"NOW LEAVE US ALONE"
The Newtown Bee: MUH Feelings
God damn ... that shit is straight out of Constantin Stanislavski's "An Actor Prepares". I'm an actor, college degree in the dramatic arts and all that.
I've never really looked at it frame by frame before. That is an actor preparing.
She works as a pollster/strategist for democratic causes. Was involved in writing a report on effective gun messaging which was published a few months before SH, it reads like a guide to creating an effective push for gun control through taking advantage of tragedy. Now she's involved in Sandy Hook Promise, a massively disgusting and ghoulish gun control charity that sells green nail polish and rakes in millions for top execs.
She is NOT THE FUCKING SISTER OF JILL GREENBERG. Fuck I wish I didn't ask pol to dig on that one because some dick wrongly skimmed a google search of radaris or whatever and concluded they were sisters.
Jill Greenberg, AGAIN NOT ANNAS SISTER AND NOT KNOWN TO BE RELATED created the equally ghoulish photographic album of children crying which appears to show some of the victims.
boy they sure rushed that garbage through. look at that garbage ass door sign! ANY parent, ANY teacher, ANY admin,
ANY professional would find that absolutely reprehensible. go to university, take an oath of poverty, dedicate yourself to children and your community and THAT's the level of respect that is afforded to you in a vanguard fucking school in a wealthy ass community. I'll bet the teachers went to school unkempt in a burlap sack too, smoking cigs in the classroom and swearing like sailors. WHAT A JOKE.
it looks like a day care in the projects
>pic unrelated, it's a doctored photo. the badge isn't real
trips for truth. It's a manufactured crime scene with 'evidence' sprinkled at random. The school is old, run down and shitty. There's no way it was in operation, why aren't more people fired up about this? Heads need to roll.
Daily reminder that none of you shabbos goys have provided a motive for the Jews faking it instead of just killing the kids.
child ritual sacrifice to moloch
Yeah, I'm the shill here; definitely not the sabbos goys who want you to believe nobody died.
There's no historical basis for Molech being an owl, it's always a bull god. The owl on the other hand represents Minerva.
The Owl at the grove is often referred to as Molech, but that's just the nickname it was given; I believe by employees. The ritual at the grove is a joke more than anything, no one takes it seriously.
It was done to sway public opinion in favor of greater gun control. It worked wonderfully and has been co-opted by every gun-grabbing bastard in the USA.
Feinstein: "It might take one year, it might take two or it might take three...."
It's a long process and just because your kosher ADHD ass hasn't seen a complete ban on all guns within the last year and a half doesn't mean shit. I don't know who put the 'motive argument' in your binder, chaim, but they need a major pay cut.
Re-read my post, I'm looking for a motive for using actors instead of just killing kids.
This was carefully planned and indeed marketed with a certain, calculated set of circumstances. Real murder is messy and unpredictable. Conspiracy to commit murder will also get you the chair. They thought they could throw on a little play to further their agenda, under the guise of a full-scale drill. They did a shit job and people noticed.
That makes no fucking sense. To fake the whole thing they would need hundreds (if not thousands) of actors. To just kill the kids they'd need a Mossad agent or two.
These people love murder, they never faked it before, why start now?
Has most of the exposing been done thanks to crowsourcing by different anons and shillbusters? The rationale of it being staged and hence being a ton less risky to work with makes perfect sense. Conspiracy to not commit actual conspiracies aren't a chargeable offence usually.
The acting could be arranged so that those thousands of actors that you though were necessary would actually be thousands of witnesses who thought they saw something which was not there.
There's also parents, police, doctors, the medical examiner, friends, family, and at least 100 people in that bullshit looped video of the firehouse, which Alex Jonesberg called the best evidence that it was fake.
How would there be thousands of witnesses? It all pretty much went down in one class room, they could dress some kike up like Lanza and have him massacre the kids, kill a doped up Lanza and escape.
Or Lanza could have been under some form of mind control, then everyone would have seen him doing it.
These things are all possible and require less than 10 people. Do you really think they would carry our a conspiracy that would require literally hundreds of people that were fully knowledgeable of their role?
hundreds of actors? No, only a few agents know what really happened and are in awareness of the full scope, others in the community and law enforcement etc. were paid off and given scary gag orders from the feds.
Yeah, but all of the big names in the "Hoaxer" movement seem to have fallen for it: Halbig, Fetzer, Smallstorm, Jones, etc. What does this say about their credibility in general?
And keep in mind Smallstorm was previously known for her ingenious "clunkity-clunk" 9/11 theory.
All of the parents had to be actors, everyone in the fake loop video, etc. And of course threatening all those people? Why not just kill the fucking kids? Kikes kill kids, it's one of their favorite hobbies.
What about the co-workers? Wouldn't someone who worked in the Police dept./Hospital say they never saw those people before?
For sandy hook to be a hoax it would have to be the most monolithic conspiracy in history. They wouldn't get any return for going through that much trouble.
What's fake about it?! It shows a group of people milling in one door and out the other to give the appearance of a chaotic scene for the cameras. From the ground it would look like a general hubbub and probably be believable to those driving by. From the air it's laughable, they just fucked up. it wasn't supposed to be seen from the air, but it was. Just another oversight and human error in this comedy of a 'shooting.'
Watch the car in the corner, the video was looped.
Sofia Smallstorm is who popularized that video, she also added fake explosions to 9/11 footage in her 2006 film "9/11 Mysteries."
De facto gag orders. Corrupt hospital directors would just need to make it clear that either a job would be lost or the whistleblower's career would spiral down. Who would they talk to, the press?
Also, when was the last time you heard a cop anywhere observe publicly that something wasn't quite as it seemed at any crime scene?
And of course, a lot of them might have been in on it.
I'm not saying your government WOULDN'T do what you're describing, you bet your ass they WOULD, but that's not what happened in this case. Yes, all of the parents are actors, but keep in mind you've probably only seen a handful of them. For example, the parent Francine Wheeler, who appeared on the state of the union address has a background as an actor. This is all verifiable and 100% true. youtube it.
Why bother? That's so many fucking loose ends that could have been completely avoided with either a hit squad or mind control. Two things that they've obviously used in the past!
And there are often cops that mention things that aren't as they seem, for example there were at least a couple whistle blowers after the Jewish-Oklahoma City Bombing.
Thousands of witnesses to a craftly staged act can become thousands of useful idiots. Heck, you could even have had people faking injuries with fake blood and fake shots ringing out where almost all the actors in like a room were doing that just to convince a couple of innocent kids that this was real.
doesn't matter that the footage was 'looped' it only takes a couple of frames to see what's going on. It's an illogical procession, in one door, out the other. Can you imagine a logical reason for people to leave the firehouse, walk around the big part of the building and go directly back into the same building? Please tell me what you can come up with to explain why parents and those responding to news of a shooting would be doing this. Even a single photograph of this procession would raise questions. What are they doing? There's no panic, no chaos, no emotion, no nothing, just an illogical procession to leave a building and go back into it again.
Well 90% of the TV watching public is unaware that this was a hoax. For the 10% who smell a rat, you've got all these wacko nuts on talk shows muddying the waters to the point where this 10% just cannot convince the other 90% to flip.
A hit squad would mean real victims. Real victims' families would not be in the least bit interested in reading off of a script prepared by the masterminders. They'd speak their mind i.e. situation gets unpredictable.
Because the idea that literally every single one of them is involved in some giant conspiracy makes sense?
Since you're mind is so made up I'm sure you completely investigated the floor plans of the firehouse right? And you've definitely investigated every other explanation right? Because if not you shouldn't even be passing judgment.
All you can really see is certain individuals walking in that general direction.
Conspiracy research is for people who are actually willing to be skeptical and investigate the shit out of something before passing judgement, these YouTube-hobbyists are poisoning the well-and if I recall there's a certain group with a history of poisoning wells...
These threads have had better info about the shooting that the official report itself.
This needs to move from 4chan to contacting those officials though, imo
Due to the lack of evidence they'll release, at this point I'd say there's more evidence that indicates nothing happened than there is evidence that indicates a shooting happened.
Have you read the full report? Because if you haven't you fall back into that category of people who shouldn't be passing judgement. You can download it and read through it in it's entirety.
The "truth movement" is supposed to be about thinking for yourself, not just following the lies spread by your favorite kosher-guru.
And when you have real murders you have lawsuits out the wazoo. Your 'patsy' or your MK-Ultra'd murderer or you Mossad agent is going to have his ass crawled up with 50 microscopes, every lawyer in the state and every PI and detective in the western US. Fake murders, fake victims and NO LAWSUITS in this case. What was that about loose ends again? Oh yeah, a real murder has those too, and in a real murder there will be a whole nation looking for them, and if they got found, people would get the chair for it.
Mind control i.e. brainwashing coupled with hypnosis? I don't see how that's easier than paying an actor. What argument do you have for that to be a viable alternative?
And lol Mossad agents would have to kill real people. Although some of the actors themselves might even be special ops. But suppose you got someone to kill real people and produce real cadeavors then there's another problem. Loss of control over the aftermath. You'll have friends and family of the deceased wanting to run the show versus your actors running the show wrt making statements and recommendations. That's the whole idea of staging an event, because what you really want to stage is the resultant aftermath.
I actually have. The appendix, too.
You can't manipulate someone as well as an paid crisis actor has agreed to be manipulated in advance. Post event, you'd want as many people as possible reading off the script that you prepared. Why rely on chance to try and manipulate someone who could possibly become redpilled in the near future?
Yep. And if there are any lawsuits they could very well be staged lawsuits too, that go the way the masterminds want them to go. Lawsuits give an air of legitimacy to a crisis so I'd imagine fake lawsuits or staged lawsuits are probably part of the mix too if they want to do a real elaborate job
ding ding buddy, this guy gets it. it's a psyop, it's not just the murders that matter at all, it's the marketing campaign that follows (NFL half time lol.) They need to control it from start to finish.
>Mind control i.e. brainwashing coupled with hypnosis? I don't see how that's easier than paying an actor. What argument do you have for that to be a viable alternative?
Government mind control is well documented, there are declassified MK-Ultra documents as well as credible victims who have given their testimony.
All it would require is to abduct Lanza and program him, the fact that he already had mental problems (specifically sexual trauma) would make him a prime candidate.
I suggest reading up on Mind Control, I suggest Walter Bowart's "Operation Mind Control."
The RFK assassination is another obvious example of a mind-controlled killer (Sirhan Sirhan).
>And lol Mossad agents would have to kill real people. Although some of the actors themselves might even be special ops. But suppose you got someone to kill real people and produce real cadeavors then there's another problem. Loss of control over the aftermath. You'll have friends and family of the deceased wanting to run the show versus your actors running the show wrt making statements and recommendations. That's the whole idea of staging an event, because what you really want to stage is the resultant aftermath.
They've controlled the aftermath of things they've actually done in the past. Why wouldn't they be able to do it this time?
First of all, are you aware that the Cris Actor meme was started by Dallas fucking Goldbug?
But anyway, they've manipulated the families of the victims of their crimes for fucking centuries, why would this one be any different?
Hi guys, Britbong here. Have any of the other parents ever come forwards to speak to the media? A school shooting would surely create entire classrooms of concerned parents, no? If I was at school and a gunman went nuts in another wing, nowhere near me, my mother wouldn't ever shut up about it to this day.
It is really only those handful of actors we see again and again? Where are the other parents? Where were the other children on that day?
When Columbine happened, there was a documentary that featured loads of children, loads of parents, loads of experts and that. The crew went to the town and interviewed people years after the event, and they all remembered it.
With Sandyhook, from a foreigner's perspective, it's literally as if there were three parents affected, as if the rest of the school just didn't show up that day.
Where are the Sandy Hook parents?
Wait, so they wouldn't have actually killers involved because people would actually investigate them, but they would instead have hundreds of actors that people would investigate?
Not sure what your point is. Staged lawsuits would be easy to arrange and very could camouflage assuming you control the plaintiff, defendent and perhaps even the judge.
The lack of lawsuits(I don't know if there were none, you're telling me there aren't so I guess there weren't) does look suspicious in any staged event. My point was that if someone was designing a hoax then keeping that very obvious point in mind they'd have their co conspiritors go through some sort of post event lawsuit to make things look legit.
Forget about your memes, forget about some schizophrenic goofball, and drop the term crisis actor. It was a propaganda effort carried out by agents of your government. Yes, your gov has this capability. Yes, your gov has agents within your borders trained (quite poorly in some cases) to 'act' as if they're somebody they're not, in a situation which is falsified.
Someone really needs to put together an image macro with the basics. Anyway, to your question:
SANDY HOOK WAS NOT A FUNCTIONING SCHOOL
There are no other parents because there were no students. None. Nada. No teachers either. It was an empty building they were already planning to demolish.
Hope that clears things up for you.
So I don't get this, why would the people who did the false flag make it so unorganized that regular people could see from a mile away?
I personally don't believe in these crazy conspiracies but to claim that they controlled this is crazy, I would think they would put effort into it so that no one could actually figure it out.
quite a claim m8y
Strange, tall devil statue found in the woods of Sandy Hook.
Even if there's nothing paranormal about it, it's still worth noting, in case it does turn out to be significant in some small way.
The official report is impossible.
Government is in full damage control trying to withhold all evidence from public by using the 'MUH feelings' defense
Because they were grief stricken, right?
And none of them left forwarding addresses either, did they? "Respect their privacy" and all that?
The WayBack machine created no snapshots of the school website for five years prior to the alleged shooting because there was no website to snapshot.
I don't know who Dallas Goldberg is. I've just seen that meme used in a lot of discussions about 911, the boston bombings and other events on youtube and other places.
Manipulating victims is possible but not foolproof or totally predictable. Manipulating co conspiring crisis actors is easier and more predictable by many orders of magnitude. Even if it were necessary to try and manipulate real victims to lend authenticity to a staged event the more actors and operatives you have from your camp, the more predictable the whole outcome is. When you play chess you want maximum control over the board using pieces you control 100%. That's how you force predictable outcomes of varying degrees from the oponent's pieces, by projecting force from every angle possible. If an opportunity is there, such as the proper use of crisis actors, then it will not be ignored by the orchestrators because to do so would be an epic fail.
And what makes you say that crisis actors have not been used for centuries? It's a lot easier to arrange an event with crisis actors because all that's involved is theatre. With mind control you need a very complex and sophisticated network of expert psychytrists and other resources.
This is basically what they did, a couple token law suits, one of which was dropped. At columbine every parent filed lawsuits an won. Here they 'chose love' and raked in a million each in donations. What a fucking joke.
I do agree though. Total bullshit. I happened to read two stories last night about the shooting and one was about a victim that had juuust moved into town from the UK. "Of course," I thought. Another recent "transplant." The next story I read: "Little (insert name here) and his family had just moved to Sandy Hook from Canada." Of-fucking-course.
>pic semi-related, another "recent transplant" on Newtown's town commission
Perhaps that's part of the plan. To have a fake mastermind that the trail is supposed to lead to in order that the real masterminds get off the hook. An alibi of sorts if needed.
I watched the bizarre crocodile of children filmed from the helicopter paraded out for the ground cameras, and it really did appear that they were the only kids on site at the time.
So... hmm... if the school was being decommissioned or whatever, there would be paperwork? 'cos that's quite a big job, admin wise, to move a school's worth of kids to new schools, even without a fake gun shooting going on. There should be a paper trail that shows the school was non-functioning? That would be worth obtaining.
Or, the website's robots.txt explicity told all bots to stay away during those years.
Okay, now THAT is solid evidence. Sheeeeeeeittttt.
I don't like it because when CNN's poster CIA faggot-in-chief Anderson Cooper was reporting on James Tracy's work on this hoax, they tore it apart by showing some dumb ass 'crisis actors' website and made the assumption that when people are talking about crisis actors, that they mean they are just ordered from some public website. People like Parker are not just some goofball drama students down on their luck who will go back to mcdonalds next week, they were moved into the area two years before and have since moved out. Government propaganda work is their bloody career, always will be. So I guess you could say I think the term is a bit too trivial sounding.
To me a crisis actor is somebody who participates in a drill: "oweee, I've been shot, I'm a diabetic and I'm bleeding from the leg, please assort me to the correct triage tarp as per your training!"
is the tl;dr that gun control types staged a shooting by using psy ops on a vulnerable teenager in order to exploit the tragedy?
can't lie i have kind of expected something like this to happen for a while. it's like breivik, there's no way he's not a plant.
The kids would be distributed to other schools at the same grade. >>30064925 might suggest it happened as long as five years prior, which means that there wouldn't be too many parents asking questions. Five years is a whole academic cohort. Former pupils and their parents would be in college.
But there would be paperwork around the time the school closed, just to transfer the younger kids to other schools. Local investigators need to check the books of the other schools at the same grade as Sandy Hook. The year the school closed will spike those other schools, even by about ten or fifteen students in the yeargroup?
I just think it's so difficult to fake that at an empty school. They have pictures of classrooms and stuff.
Well perhaps Anderson Cooper's assignement was to make as many people as possible shrink away from considering real people playing fake parts in staged events. The crisis actor meme could have been attacked so as to make anyone who heard it afterwards cringe at the thought of speaking that phrase? Well I didn't watch Cooper and I like the way it rolls off the tongue.
So the real world term probably does mean someone paid to simulate a victim of a real crisis. But suppose someone does do that for a living and does other stuff on the side that's a lot shadier, then eventually they might start moving in circles where they have perhaps one very important crisis scene to act per decade given out to them as a million dollar contract. After all, it's probably best if a crisis actor is not an actual, trained and experience intel operative but just a civilian with some "special" work experience.
>being a Sandy Hoaxer is a mental illness
>Hoaxers can't accept the truth no matter what
>all evidence that proves them wrong is dismissed as fake
>can't argue with them
>can't make them accept the truth
Hope you all get medication for Hoaxer illness.
This thread is filled with manufactured "evidence", quotes and screenshots of other people's half-baked ideas instead of actual facts or proof, and a rabid following of mentally deranged tinfoilers who simply can't accept that this was just a plain old school shooting.
Oh yes, another hourly thread about the government-made mass shooting that ended gun rights in every state of the country. And to believe they even had the nerve to use the same crisis actors they hired for their other conspiracies.
Fuck you OP. Give it a rest already, it's been more than a year since that happened. At least have some respect for the children who lost their lives that day, you worthless piece of shit.
No it actually isn't just try running Jim Fetzer's website through archive.org, there are months without snapshots--and he's who pushes that theory.
He also claims no planes hit the towers and mini nukes were used on 9/11.
I've seen the unedited helicopter footage on YouTube. It does appear that the school is utterly deserted, with only the children in the crocodile on site.
Hoaxing a shooting with classrooms of witnesses all with parents who can blab off message to the media is riskier than staging an event in a deserted school?
Closing a whole school, however long ago it was, would generate all sorts of paperwork though. If this is the case, there will be an admin trail well worth compiling. Even finding class photos, or yearbooks or whatever.
I don't know why they did it - although I'm sure restricting your civil liberties are included somewhere in the list, and then there was the supposed connection to a multi billion dollar fraud - but if they were arrogant enough to employ actors we can trace, we can also find transfer sheets for students five years prior. We only have to track the school roster until it drops away, how hard can that be with written requests? This is public money, there are public records.
Sorry if your feelings are hurt, faggot. People here are looking for Answers and justice. IF kids were killed we want to see the perpetrators caught and hung from a tree. If they weren't, we want the same for those who lied to the world. It's called having a pair of testicles and caring about evidence, it's about GENUINELY caring about what happened. Get the fuck out, go burn a candle and weep somewhere else.
>It is really only those handful of actors we see again and again? Where are the other parents? Where were the other children on that day?
their were none ... we can't find any
Because... you want the actors to say something specific?
And grief-stricken parents might not say those things? Or say the exact opposite?
If it's a hoax, the message is as much in the medium - a school shooting - as the words spoken afterwards, too. Timing might be important, and they can't wait around for a nutter with a gun to go apeshit?
Lanza's estranged father never went ahead with his next prosecution case, maybe that was relevant too? The hoax doesn't have to be directed at anyone else if it's personal to the Lanzas, does it? Getting that kid to shoot up a school is way harder than faking that he did.
quinlan probably touched his peepee in the 3rd grade is the point
First of all, the parents didn't exactly say anything so special that it had to be scripted?
And according the Hoaxers; Lanza either didn't exist or died the day before, suggesting his parents had to be actors too.
Oooh. Ah. Well that's killed that paper trail then.
Well.. no. It's just made it harder. Someone went to Sandy Hook school in the final year it was open. Someone changed school when it closed. Find that someone, investigators.
fact is .. as a "hoaxer" we don't know if anyone actually died or not
thats the point.. no real proof either way
my personal take is they killed the kids, but not in the shooting
the shooting was staged .. probably with real shooters but an empty school... then the fema drill actors filled in the gaps for the new coverage
This has already been explained. If they fake it they control everything, no parents file lawsuits, no mistakes get made, you don't end up with the perpetrator getting pulled over on the way and being searched and detained and questioned, he doesn't get cold feet and decide not to do it, he doesn't get arrested and squeal, etc. etc. When you create a FAKE story you avoid a whole shitload of unpredictability. When you fake the shooting, you get to choose the parents, so you choose those with acting backgrounds.. squeaky-clean, ready-made lobbyists. All prim and proper, professionals.. Caucasian, good-looking, and ready for TV. You don't get some illiterate alcoholic ditch digger for the state of the union address, you get a perfect spokesperson, you get somebody who WILL MAKE A FINE NEW CAREER WORKING FOR MAYORS AGAINST ILLEGAL GUNS,WHICH ACTUALLY HAPPENED. A real killing is random, this one WAS NOT! FUCK!
something happened at the school
because we have bullet holes and spent cases ect ect
but no bodies ... no real parents ... kids are fake or still alive ...
the reaction to the crime scene is all fake
then we have a bunch of CIA and satanits running around flashing devil signs ect ect
and as we know the CIA was born from satanist, so they probably use low level satanists as local agents
Not the same poster but are you fucking serious? You mean to tell me that you honestly believe (whether you think it was government -made or not) that all the questions surrounding the event have been answered?
If you truly believe that then you're a fucking loony.
This guy answers all of Halbig's questions.
And I guess so many of the parents of having acting backgrounds and multiple aliases is just a funny little coincidence. I guess it just so happened that Francine Fucking Wheeler AND husband would be actors. Right. This was planned and marketed carefully. Whatever bullshit scenario you can invent in your mind about mossad agents or whatever, would not be sufficient in supplying ACTORS to the subsequent and ongoing campaign.
Here's our gal Francine.
Not a hair dresser, not a maid, not a housewife, nor a secretary, but an ACTOR. Her husband is as well.
"I don't know"
They didn't say anything realistic, either. It's like they were all doped up on happy pills in the interviews.
If it's a hoax aimed at the Lanzas, then the boy didn't ever need to be at the school, or be alive on the day. If preventing Lanza snr's upcoming court appearance is the focus of this event, to not only stop him functioning, to discredit his name, to warn him off ever investigating further, then we do have a motivation for a set up. The gun control thing is a bonus, motivation-wise.
Why not blow Lanza snr away? Well... what if he'd threatened a dead man's switch sort of thing?
It does seem far fetched. But then again, so does everything we see about claims it was an outright lone nutter with a gun shooting up a school. You know? Where are the other parents? A whole school's worth of kids and families have disappeared?! It's just... so weird.
This isn't anything like Columbine, or V-Tech. When this shit is real, there's all sorts of narratives after the event. With Sandy Hook, there is one on message narrative. That's suspicious. It's reeks of propaganda.
There's plenty of documentation that Sandy Hook was contaminated with asbestos and it was going to be costly as fuck to do abatement. There's a run down here:
Also note the plywood over the windows and the door with a plank nailed across it. While not conclusive, there's a lot of staining (the grime kind) on the tiles in the hallway. I don't know what cleanliness standards are in CT, but I know that shit wouldn't fly in my neck of the woods.
I don't buy into any of the Crisis Actor bullshit, but Mark Dice has no fucking credibility and that video was made right after the attack, a shitload of conspiracy theories have since spread
Pic related, it's from his book.
I just read one post this person had about the Super Bowl situation. The only explanations he gave were
1. the victims in the pictures were much younger than the children at the Super Bow(which is easily explained by saying the pictures of the victims are old, meaning the actual children would be older than they are in the pictures presented) and
2. The children at the Super Bowl look nothing like the victims (which apparently people already disagree with)
TL;DR Very shitty arguments from this website.
Alright, you are an idiot so I'll slow this down for you. If you wrote a letter to your congressman to complain about an aspect to public policy, you would be asking HIM for answers, correct? You'd be asking for a statement from his administration, his office, for an answer to your concern, correct? So if your neighbor walked over and said, hey buddy, that was already explained in the newspaper in an opinion piece, there's no reason to address your concern to your congressman, because Jack smith at the newspaper has already discussed it. Would you be satisfied?
Wolfgang is addressing his questions to PUBLIC OFFICIALS, not a blogger, get it? Answers from a PUBLIC OFFICIAL as to who the incident commander was are important, they carry weight, speculations from some fuck wad with a blog are not. Is this starting to sink in? He has addressed his questions to the appropriate officials and they have refused to answer. This is important. Because some idiot writes a blog posts and speculates as to the answers means nothing.
Their refusal to answer his legitimate FOIA requests speaks volumes. Speculations from a blogger mean shit.
You have a point there...Somehow I feel like other than the kids directly involved in the shooting, and the very few interviewed around the same time, I haven't seen any other kids who went to Sandy Hook...It's very strange.
I don't want to make any guesses as to why they would use the same kids though, but I definitely think it warrants explanation.
No, I'm suggesting the kids you saw on the helicopter footage were brought in like all the rest. They could be from Jersey for all I know.
Here's what I'm suggesting:
1) We have an empty school that's costing us money to maintain and will cost even more to bring up to code due to the presence of asbestos.
2) A bunch of anti-gun types want to stage a false-flag to get legislation passed and will build us a new school if we play along.
3) Hire crisis actors for parents, teachers, children, first responders, etc.
4) Completely fabricate casualties and have Anderson Cooper report things that never actually happened.
5) Restrict access to all evidence including things like a) Adam Lanza's corpse, b) any pictures of blood splatters in the school, and c) interviews with the allegedly injured victims.
6) Demolish the school before some intrepid /x/phile breaks in and does a photo spread.
7) Get a new school, new houses, and a cool $700k per crisis actor.
Sure, the legislation failed, but do you think the people of Newtown give a fuck? They got everything they wanted.
Not the Anon who posted the video but Mark Dice is probably someone's controlled opposition. He used to work with Alex Jones and then split away. He tries to act like he's against Alex Jones but I suspect he's a "helper" who meticulously points out all the straw men that Alex Jones deliberately placed in his videos to turn away as many people as possible who were sitting on the fence wrt to whether or not something was fishy at the Sandy Hook shooting.
tl;dr if anyone uses the phrase conspiracy theory and debunk in the same sentence then they're a shill as surely as a person with no reflection is a vampire. They should be ostracised.
>those eyes on that kid not looking anywhere near the camera
got any shekels in your pocket grandpa?
So what questions remain unanswered? Why where the dead kids in the Super Bowl? why was that guy smiling before the press conference?
OH GOD THE CONSPIRACY NEVER ENDS!!
Mark Diceberg and Alex Jones are BEF's again, also Jones is promoting the Sandy Hoax theories now because he sees that's where the Shekels are.
He had Halbig on his show two days ago.
this sucks. they're gonna implement an eternal gag order or something probably.
No trauma helicopters. Why? Oh I guess it's because some amazingly talented Amazing Flash of an EMT instantly decided it was not needed. At the first sign of multiple casualties one should have been ordered. Blood, multiple people down, got the fucking chopper. It's not up to some fuckwit to make a decision about ambulances and proximity to hospitals, it's a mass casualty incident, blood everywhere, apparently. Total casualties unknown but presumed to be multiple. Get a fucking life flight in the air NOW, no assessment required, that's how it's supposed to go.
Here, nahhh man, don't need one, all of these kids are like so shot up we can just truck them out later on tonight. FUCK THAT.
>You have neighbors reporting the school’s been closed down for God knows how long…. They can’t understand why there were kids in that building because it was condemned.”
This sort of thing. Someone went to Sandy Hook school in year 1 and went to another school in year 2 because it was closed down. Several year groups, in fact. Even if it was a long as five years ago, there are at least one hundred ex-pupils who can attest to the fact they changed schools. They can't all have just evaporated, there's a whole documentary right there for an investigator on the ground.
Another point I'd like to make: who puts bulletin boards that high up the wall in an elementary school? Kids are short.
We can start with almost any of the points that
And don't fucking say "OH BUT NONE OF THAT SHIT MATTERS!" I don't give a fuck if you think it matters or not, if I have a question, I'm allowed to want an answer.
Oh come on, doesn't he have a cause or a long term goal that he's focused on asides his bank account, don't you think his handlers chose him because of his own unspoken political leanings?
>I don't give a fuck if you think it matters or not, if I have a question, I'm allowed to want an answer.
Are you implying that any nutjob out there should be taken serious just because they don't understand a certain event?
>I'm suggesting the kids you saw on the helicopter footage were brought in like all the rest.
Sure. They'd have to be if it was staged.
The rewards for the local administration to look the other way are undeniable, too. Those emergency services guys being interviewed visibly looked guilty as sin when the host suggested they were "heroes". I mean, what a bizarre reaction to a simple pleasantry.
You're right, it could just be a simple case of local administration greed dovetailing in with a political attempt to ban guns. It's pretty harsh on Lanza, though. Unless... he was a fabrication too. Nobody saw him in the street for years, did they? The family seemed to disappear after the alleged split between the parents. Why not one more actor for the dramatists personae list?
I wrote two of the posts in that fucking thing so let me debunk at least some of it. I posted the link to the pdf, and I clarified some of it. Jill and Anna ARE NOT sisters, so that whole image has been sullied by some faggot who decided they were. Of course, the images are dead ringers and it's a spooky linkage to be sure. They share a last name, and they surely share a certain anti-American religion, but they ain't sisters, brotha.
Well, while he did start out pushing "Jews for the Protection of Firearms" and openly supporting Israel, he eventually started covering the Jew issue to an extent. He would have Texe Marrs and Ted Pike on his show all the fucking time for example, and all they do is name the Jew. And while he has a kike wife, Texe Marrs was the minisiter at the wedding and the ADL calls him one of the most antisemitic men in America.
The Alex Jones issue is actually pretty complicated, it seems like his real shillery started after Obama's election.
No of course not. People should approach situations objectively and try their best to understand an event.
But I certainly don't think that answers to questions should be withheld because someone considers the question to be "trivial".
Check out the discoloration in the tiling here. I suspect those boards originally stood vertically below that strip the posters are tacked to and some dumbass set designer put them up over the strip when they staged the school.
Also demonstrates the abysmal level of cleanliness at Sandy Hook.
Apparently this is her, not that just a picture will mean much but still.
He's been making videos since the 90s. I remember him making some videos next to gigantic cactuses warning that China or the UN now owns all that land due to eminent domain or something like that. He can name the Jew but what does that really mean? There's others besides Jews to be named and what's more important is whether or not he's specifically naming anyone in a credible manner. Is he? How many of his exposes have resulted in him being credited for good journalism or someone being sued or convicted successfully?
In the past he really did do decent work, it wasn't fantastic but it was better than mostly everything else out at the time. Now he makes glorified YouTube videos and retarded rants.
You mean the grand conspirators don't you? There's always riff raff that gets convicted. Also, patsies. But a lot of these people are sharp enough to know what's going on and will probably be gone before a revolution. Just like the Knights Templar.
He's the number one alternate news provider now is he not? So his goal was accomplished assuming it was to get as many followers as possible before he started poisoning the well.
>Just like the Knights Templar.
Are you a black poper?
>He's the number one alternate news provider now is he not? So his goal was accomplished assuming it was to get as many followers as possible before he started poisoning the well.
Well, in the past he would actually be pretty divisive and attack people, something he'd never do today. For example the proto-Sandy Hoaxers were the No Planers, he'd attack the shit outta them back then because they were full of shit, these days he'd never do that.
Go on the GCN archives and listen to some shows from the mid 2000's, he was much better.
>good practice for future intelligence analysis.
Not sure what a black poper is and too lazy to google. Is it someone who perhaps claims jesuits are behind everything rather than say jews or masons perhaps?
And how do you know no planers were full of shit, as in they might be spewing shit but what if the idea was to discredit something that was legit such as there being missiles involved in some form along with the demolitions everyone talks about? Him attacking them could just be a trick to throw people off the scent.
I have a theory and I'm interested to see what you guys think...look at this picture, particularly the magazines on the table, would it not be possible to identify the covers of some of the magazines on the rack to see when the last time someone was in the school? Of course they could be props, but I have already identified the magazines on the table (which look much newer than the ones on the rack) I will post in a seperate response.
The magazine from the table
December 2012 issue of Connecticut parent
This would imply people were in the building prior to the shooting, however, the magazines look brand new and untouched, so they may have been planted there
I think a few of the magazines on the rack (the uppermost right and one right below that) may be "Parent & Child" magazine based on the font (included an example for refrence) I havent found an exact issue yet.
oops correction: upper most right, and third row right. To support this: 1. It's suitable for a school
2. these covers seem to include the "Scholastic" red band on the top left corner.
you can't steal a candy bar from the gas station in america without it being recorded from all angles including the ones beyond our plane of existence
but no footage of adam driving to the school
Of course they were planted there, the whole thing is a production.
It seems to be a point that many miss here on /pol/. These are pre-produced movies shown as mock-newscast. SHE is not special they do it all the time, every day. It's only special because the story had so much emotion built into it (crafted by psychologists).
Aurora was even worse on the crisis-actor front. Anybody ever see Chris's footage (it takes a lot to beat good ol Gene but Chris does well after his earpiece malfunction)?
And the fakery goes back decades. Nobody understands the scope of this problem. Reality has been destroyed, welcome to hyperreality
What do you think about this? Top right magazine?
Schools are required to have enrollment lists. Why are investigative journalists not hunting down the other 590 possible interviewees and their parents? I'm not a tinfoiler, but this whole thing reeks of coverup. Whether it's a grand conspiracy or simple coverup of incompetence is yet to be determined imo
They Live was right.
Its just regular people selling out.
Its incompetence, americas stupidity is finally catching up with itself.
The amount of people in the loop are bound to spill the beans at some point. Nothing this large stays hidden forever.
I think that this whole process is intentional. Like the Snowden thing. They are going for a fundamental change in the behavior of the public and revealing some of their method is intentional to scare us