Russian humanitarian aid convoy still stuck at border, Ukraine/Russia/ICRC bickering about details of delivery.
Russian military column reportedly crossed yesterday evening into Ukraine.
Right now: Russian military column gathering at border checkpoint, marked as "peacekeepers"
Ukraine war: rebels captured additional border crossings and villages, forming several pockets with trapped government troops
Artillery fire resumes in Donetsk, Zugres and some other town whose name escapes me.
Let's try to keep it on topic and update it with news about the imminent happening.
>Roland Oliphant @RolandOliphant · 23m
>Massive column of APCs flying Russian flags and some with ?c - peace keeper - driving past aid convoy and barrelling it toward Donetsk
(he's certainly talking about the small Russian border village of Donetsk)
I heard some Ukrainians/Russians (apparently) seen mentioning this as well, is Sunday a special day or something? I just know that Aug 24 seems to be Ukr independence day and rumors that the Ukr army tries to capture Donetsk in order to gain a symbolic victory
> The Interpreter @Interpreter_Mag · 11m
>Ukraine Liveblog: Russian Paratroopers Now 10 km From Border. http://www.interpretermag.com/ukraine-liveblog-day-179-russian-build-up-continues-at-border-as-armour-enters-ukraine/#3814 …
> Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana · 16m
>BREAKING #Pervomaysk recaptured by #NAF. My take: #Artemivsk is next to cut off all #Ukraine forces in and around #Luhansk MAJOR #cdnpoli
> Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana · 14m
>There is a very clear trend on the battlefield today. The #Ukraine army is being counterattacked and is in trouble strategically. #cdnpoli
> Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana · 7m
>BREAKING There are 8 #Ukraine brigades currently either encircled or extremely close to being encircled around #Donetsk & #Luhansk #cdnpoli
reposting these awesome vids from last thread
aftermath of yesterday's battle near saur-mogila
From the last I heard:
24th + extras trapped near Krasny Luch and Russian border
80th at Luhansk airport, but afaik has been there like forever
And then there was this:
>Large pocket of #Ukraine units is forming at S East of #Gorlovka, S West of #Luhansk including #Debaltseve.Capturing #Luhanske will seal it.
Probably several brigades in it.
Also, the first mentioned 24th seems to have already been written off by Ukraine:
>Per #Ukraine's soldiers own admission, 72nd, 79th, and 24th Brigades are lost (4,500 men each). The 25th looks to be MIA.
I think I remember the 72nd being obliterated a few days ago, amongst those trapped in the previous "south cauldron", of which a new, larger version now formed again. If the rebels annihilate those in similar fashion, it will be a major blow. Maybe some Russians accidentally fire into it as well from their side of the border.
>mfw it's Georgia all over again
Well, let's hope Poroshenko wears his chocolate-flavored tie.
i will lol my arse off again when it turns out that all those tanks are just russian army quarding the border next to the fucking civil war zone where ukies shoot at russian town over the border and russkies shooting back.
DPR rebels won, captured a fully operational grad launcher with ammo and a bunch of other machines and gear
ukrainian HQ fled leaving their soldiers behind. the national army is pretty much all recruits who do not want to be there, they avoid close combat, rely on artillery bombardment. waste ammo to have an excuse to delay their orders
and how is state of both sides, i didn't saw any info iirc about Ukraine units succes recently, except "main city cut-off'ed" many times.
How to you all strategyc status?
Do you know how Ukraine armored units are doing? Heard that t-72's were boughted.
Rebels just reported they BBQ ukie artillery position near Donetsk..
also meet the replacement for Strelkov. (who is wounded btw)
>It Begins: Ukraine Troops Destroy Part Of "Armed" Russian Convoy
>*UKRAINE FORCES ATTACK ARMED CONVOY FROM RUSSIA: LYSENKO
>*UKRAINE TROOPS 'DESTROY' PART OF ARMED CONVOY: LYSENKO
>*UKRAINE'S POROSHENKO: CONFIRMED APC INCURSION TO CAMERON
And here we go
First he was supposed to be dead, than he resigned and got back to russia.
He was "Putins Guy", right?
Why would he resign if the seperatists were winning?
Why would the risk of russian invasion so high if the ukraine army was losing?
Nothing makes sense to me.
I don't have really in-depth information, I'd refer you to updates on http://cassad-eng.livejournal.com/ and especially http://slavyangrad.org/
About the T-72, all I know is they have been spotted on Hungarian railway, but if they really have been delivered to Ukraine ...? It's all speculation, but of course it would make sense, considering the recent losses of armor.
>Why would the risk of russian invasion so high if the ukraine army was losing?
ukraine army is making steady gains, it's just that they're paying for it with ridiculous losses in lives and material
I'm hoping the escort for the aid convoy from russia clears a corridor to donetsk
he wasnt putins guy.
also strelkov got wounded. as always he was in the frontline and got hit by artilery fire. the rebbels stormed and massacred there everyone then delievered him to east Donbass. he is now number one on the banderas hunt list. i think he will be now in russia.
All major players seem to have been replaced recently. There seems a lot going on that we have simply no information about. At first I thought it to be a legitimacy thing, to replace Russians with locals, but maybe there's more to it. Some others are currently trying to work it out, though I doubt much will come of it.
>ehaaaaaa! Copy that, you big pile of monkey nuts over
So what will hapen if Putin doesnt start a full blown invasion?
Can the Ukraine keep up their way of fighting?
are you one of those retards that thinks it's not real unless CNN says something about it?
That's the crest of the Ukrainian Ground forces.
>What is the Soviet Union
>Russian military column reportedly crossed yesterday evening into Ukraine.
There is interesting notion in humanitarian convoy.
They have been saying that convoy is made of 280 vehicles:
Then I saw (can't remember when and where don't take my word for it) that the convoy split.
Now they are saying about 262 humanitarian vehicles
So where did 18 vehicles go?
>All major players seem to have been replaced recently.
not really. the local commanders know their areas better and their experience with ukies is growing. its just logical they are now more and more in charge.
i bet they just reprinted ukies propaganda and added some jewish "expertism". dumb fucks will be really surprised when the whole russian convoi was just a hoax of CIA-propaganda department to justify fresh heavy weaponry deliveries to kievs hunta from Europe and murrika.
Just business as usual, according to them:
Strange thing is: in this link, KyivPost quotes the DailyMail who quotes Ukraine military officials - WTF?
sources in english about vehicle numbers:
262 lorries waiting at border and 20 APCs entering Ukraine
yes, either it's the Wehrmacht or Ukraine Army. Probably the Wehrmacht.
Good job, sherlock.
>actually, overall the casualties have been ridiculously low
lol. there was a video f 72 brigade which was BBQ by rebels. funny momment about casualities is that they sadi "when kiev tells 5 killed it is in real 50 dead. when Kiev reports its 3 killed then its 30 dead."
there was some fresh satelite foto from donetsk where rebels had to make new grave yards to dig all ukies and own people there.
you should know never to trust official casualty figures
even in vietnam they were entirely fabricated.
I'm going by what I actually see in videos, and ukraine gov's actions. calling up 65yr old men is not something you do if you're not having problems filling in the ranks
it's not even a real war until hundreds or at least tens of thousands of civilians die and millions become refugees
this is just a skirmish, a spat, a lover's quarrel, nothing more. but i understand pol needs habbenings, so play on
Yep, seems tanks attacked the road Luhansk-Krasnodon, which would be the suggested route for the convoy. It's pretty obvious:
>Poroshenko suggests new route
>Ukr military attacks this road
>"Guys, sorry, it's unsafe, you have to turn back until the situation normalizes!"
They pulled the same shit with the MH17 site.
Russian intelligence may have assessed the war, or at least their part in the war as "won". The russians do not necessarily want the separatists to go to Kiev and restore Ukraine to functionality.
Shit's heating up:
>RT @RT_com 2m
>BREAKING: Aid convoy to #Ukraine faces disruption, may be attacked - Russia http://on.rt.com/b94xhw
>Patrick Jackson @patrickgjackson 8m
>Russian FM accuses Ukrainian forces of planning to mine roads in #Luhansk to stop its #convoy (in Russian)
That may be it, guys, they might move in to "preemptively" protect the convoy and thus the lives of civilians etc.
nice spin, doctor
no, putin had a hardon for these banana "republics" to hold bogus referendums to merge into russia like crimea
plan backfired and now it's all about damage control
Every separatist convoy is a Russian convoy according to Kiev. Attacking one of them and agreeing with the wests previous headlines is something they would do the get attention.
Chechnya's Kadyrov has been sending arms and supplies to the separatists every few weeks for months now. Could be one of his columns getting attacked.
By far the most hilarious option is if they attacked a Russian border guard patrol on the Russian side of the border.
That would be an oh shit moment not unlike Saakashvili's order to attack the Russian peacekeepers in Georgia in 2008.
accord to this junta media the report about destruction of parts of the convoy was made by Poroshenko himself when he called the Premier in UK.
also Cameron promissed fresh printed billion pounds for Ukies.
well. if you go vote for him next time think about your country getting deeper into shit because of him.
sure it is russian convoy. just to be clear those people who are fighting against kievs hunta are mostly russians defending their homeland. it just hillarious how ukies are trying to de humanize all russians by using their ethnic name in every shit they find against them.
here english link about Britain wast 1 BILLION on ukies war against own population.
I'm not saying its a good thing. There is talk of Zakarpatia breaking away in the same fashion.
Russia has recent, also historical, experience with these "unofficial border states" Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Novorossiya - (the old one). They are gray areas on the map that provide flexibility and experience while protecting the sanctity of the motherland.
top kek. here ukies report about 5 dead and 65 wounded in east ukraine..
looks like they lost 50 dead and a thousand wounded.
>democratically elected government
ukies hysterically trying to take over roads in Donbas now.
ok guys i suddenly got massive restarts of captcha. which means i have to type for every fucking message 6-10 times the captcha. this means i am shadow blocked. stopping to talke here now. at least for today.
I wonder if this is why we have the sudden flood of "RUSSIA INVADING!" headlines again?
>Europe Blinks - May Cancel Russian Sanctions
>It appears the pain that Europe is already suffering post-Russian sanctions, is too much to bear (as we explained here). While NATO admits it saw Russian military forces cross the Ukraine border, European leaders, after discussions on widespread 'aid' for nations suffering from Russia's food ban, have said they are 'ready to review Russia sanctions' if the situation stabilizes. Furthermore, snubbing Washington, European leaders said they do not want to impose more sanctions on Russia. Obama alone again?
> Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana · 8m
>BREAKING: #Britain has summoned #Russia ambassador over #Ukraine incursion reports via @INTLSpectator #cdnpoli
So, let's get this straight:
Two reporters from British newspapers (Guardian and Telegraph) follow some clearly Russian military vehicles and see them passing the border, with lights and Russian plates and all.
Sadly, those British journalists don't have any camera with them to prove it.
The next day, Poroshenko "confirms" this and says Russian troops have been destroyed - this information comes from a call with British PM Cameron. Poroshenko also gets some monies and Cameron has the Russian ambassador summoned.
Somehow this all sounds very fishy.
its a shape of order ribbons used by russian empire army. the orders were divided into different colors. golden silver and bronze. each color means the level of the medal or order so veterans who had such order had different levels of support from goverment in russian empire.
later during WW1 and WW2 the state gave orders to complete units or armies. even to the fornt. which ment to give veterans of those better money and support. many of former units in former soviet union keept those ribbon symbols as a respect for history. which is this case hillarious because ukies are renaming everything russian into bandera names like stupid bitches who just got new pimp. lol. they even renamed the moscow bridge in kiev (the name is 500 years old) into some fucking dead nazi leader now.
>>Europe Blinks - May Cancel Russian Sanctions
no wonder aside jew oligarchs in ukraine and americans and their puddle in London none wins from this shit. people die the hate spreads and economy is going down like a stone made of frozen shit.
Was stupid to begin with. Europe is a seller, removing a buyer hurts yourself when there are competitors available. Russia is a buyer, by blocking a seller they simply buy elsewhere. The only sanctions that work are high-tech, but that's very long-term.
So, in short, burn Brussels NOW.
shit getting serious.
ukrainian german, french and russian out ministers are meeting in Berlin this weekend.
looks like REAL EU is meting with the parties before deciding what to do further.
my bets are on federalization of Ukraine. if not division into different states.
the coming parliament selection and inner fights between nazi politicians and oligarchs is going out of control and if ukies want to keep own arses in power they will crawl back to talks with rebels.
Commander of batallion "Donetsk" telling about how they gave up that small and irrelevant point
>very few rebels there
>supported by artillery
>ukraine keeps attacking with human waves
>none make it
>corpses fucking everywhere
>they keep coming
>rebels have literally never had over 30 men there
>after many days of fight DPR got like five wounded and retreated
>ukrs lost hundreds
>commander in video expresses pity towards all the men who died at saur-mogila due to sheer incompetence of ukr command
"mogila" means "grave" by the way. What a coincidence.
i fucking love bandera facting..
ukies are savages. have no respect even for own history and grandfathers..
Why exactly did Putin send a military convoy across the border when they didnt stand a chance to get through the lines of the ukrainian military anyway?
Why these sneaky suicide missions?
Either he supports the fucking russians in east ukraine or he doesnt. He needs to get his fucking head out of his ass and just steamroll the Ukraine, kill those jew crooks in Kiev and put their heads on a pike for everyone to see
>military buildup and exercises in Rostov Oblast since February
More importantly, how could Ukrainian artillery destroy that column when there is no Ukrainian artillery in that area? This whole thing stinks to high heaven. Until I see proof, I assume this was an imaginary incursion.
I'm with you, pike-wise, though.
>putin had a hardon for these banana "republics" to hold bogus referendums to merge into russia like crimea
confirmed for just finding out about ukraine
after donetsk and lughansk voted for autonomy and begged putin to recognize them, possibly annex them, he just delivered a speech about how everything will be worked out with western partners and the republics might get autonomous status within ukraine. you're literally making things up with your dick references
>Ukraine Troops Destroy Part Of "Armed" Russian Convoy
Maybe it was only this part they destroyed:
Kiev forces evacuating their wounded following the defeat at Stepanovka
Separatist forces picking over the battle field, claiming trophies, checking enemy positions, same battle.
You can see the age difference between the Kiev and Separatist soldiers pretty clearly in these videos.
Meanwhile, this victory for the separatists has freed Saur-Mogila from artillery attacks. They will be able to go back to using it as an artillery base again.
Their forces are now pushing on Amvrosiivka.
Taking it will cut off all access to southern Lugansk orblast, and all those forces that tried to push into the southern road between Donetsk and Lugansk.
Good luck to them.
Wow how biased cane one article be.
Again: They are not fighting in the name of Russia, but for their own autonomy - as part of Ukraine but apart from the govt in Kiev.
Here's a site that keeps track of destroyed armor in the conflict. Only those that are proven and documented with photos, though. Current total: 123 vehicles.
the coal minors are telling to get ready for cold wintter. the Ukraine shall collect everything what burns like during ww2. even dried shit.
they've used russian flags a whole lot, even mounting them on their APCs. there were videos on pol about how "ITS HAPPENING" because columns of armour with the russian tricolour were filmed driving around
safe to say that many of them are, indeed, fighting with the goal of bringing east ukraine into russia
If we called them separatists, the world might not remember to hate Russia.
I heard there was a pro-russian car thief in Detroit, who ran over an elderly lady... and her dog... while a 12 year old watched.
This may be true, but they have been called "pro-Russian separatists" even before they hold their referendum in May.
I believe they only had two choices. Both Anti-Kiev.
A pro-Russian cop shot an unarmed black kid in Missouri.
Then where are the troops?
Are they invisible? Has Russia mastered cloaking technology?
SHIT. Someone call the Pentagon! They need to know!
Or, the vehicles are not fully loaded due to road weight concerns, and to allow for repacking cargoes from other vehicles in the event they break down enroute, like any normal transport convoy.
But no. Invisible troops makes more sense.
I guess they expect Ukrainian attacks and thus stretched the material on a lot of trucks, so taking a few out won't hurt the overall effort too much.
And also mass troop deployment.
It's accurate. Even if you ignore when they asked to be annexed, the whole point of them becoming autonomous republics was to have closer ties to Russia than the new government in Kiev wanted.
>Wow how biased cane one article be.
They're fighting for their part of Ukraine to become part of Russia just as Crimea did, so they are certainly "pro-Russian separatists".
Well thats obvious. Havent you seen the amount of truck on those pics? That simply looks impressive and impressive is good publicity and good publicity is good for morale.
Also: It might aswell be a diversion. Now everyone and probably every satellite looks at those trucks.
Russia is starting to build a narrative that Ukraine is mining roads to Luhansk to stop the convoy. At the same time they are sending significant peacekeeper marked convoys of military armor to the border.
I think we're closer to an outright invasion than we've ever been.
Also those trucks dont need to be full if he assumes, that they get intercepted and or shot at.
Which will make the ukrainians look bad.
The new govt wanted less trade with Russia if not even none at all.
So they chose to keep the ties with Russia.
They chose to be anti-kiev, which does not make them pro-russia, just keeping the status-quo. Kiev wanted to change things not the otherway around.
> Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana · 5m
>BREAKING NAF moving on #Panteleimonovka. Objective W. & E. NAF forces is to pincer at #Debaltseve and trap #Ukraine brigs in #Luhansk Pocket
> Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana · 3m
>The NAF pincer to #Debaltseve will also isolate #Ukraine forces in #Alchevsk and troops south of #Luhansk city.Major disaster shaping up
> Ukraine demanded that Russian airlines Aeroflot (AFLT.MM) and Transaero (TAER.MM) obtain permission for every flight they make over its territory, because these airlines fly over Crimean airspace which Ukraine considers to be closed.
guys.....we closed the crimean airspace. stop flying there!
>which Ukraine considers to be closed.
Haha, oh God, this is too retarded to be true. Kiev suffers a complete loss of reality. Next they pretend Crimea doesn't exist at all and just remove it from maps.
Troop number still aren't anywhere near high enough. There's enough to look scary, but not enough to actually do something with.
NATO aren't screaming about active missile complexes either. You know they would the moment they detected them.
When they do, you know the invasion is imminent.
The aid convoy is a hard time limit for the Kiev authorities. They either take Kiev before the convoy arrives or they never take it at all.
The biggest issue has been infighting at the highest level of the Kiev government and military over whether to assault the city or not.
They don't have the number of troops needed. They don't have the supplies. Their troops lack the will to want to push into it.
Western reporters talking to their men on the ground north of the city say the troops there just want to get the job done and go home. They don't want to be there doing what they are doing. The believe the stories that the men in the city are just Russian mercenaries who will retreat the moment the assault starts.
They are in for a very rude shock. It will go Grozny on them.
Attacking Donetsk will break their army, likely over the course of a week of battling. The city will be destroyed, thousands of lives lost on both sides, but the victory will fall to the defenders.
Some of the leaders in Kiev know this, hence the resistance.
In recent days, Russia removed Strelkov, the propaganda icon and lynchpin of the resistance command. This is the bait.
Without him in command, now will appear the perfect time to attack Donetsk in force. The separatist fighters will look weakened and divided.
With the aid convoy time limit pressing down on them, and the perfect bait laid in removing the command icon from the separatist forces, it becomes the perfect trap to destroy Kiev's army.
I'm of the opinion that the current leaders of Kiev are the right combination of stupid enough and arrogant enough to fall for it.
GOOD LUCK BROS.
GOOD LUCK PUTIN.
Obongo is very concerned!
I love these maps. it's like following a game of go
the two sides each trying to isolate pockets of each other
>Mavrikij @Mavrikij_B 14m
>URGENT STATEMENT of the Russian MFA, August 15, 2014 http://wp.me/p4KUOt-Gy via @gbazov
>Rock Solid Politics @BradCabana 15m
>@mfa_russia "We are taking all the precautions we can to ensure the safety of this mission" ...hmmm #Russia #Ukraine #cdnpoli #AidConvoy
>Steiner @Steiner1776 19m
>Near #Dmitrievka #Ukraine regime destroyed dozen civilian cars until #NAF knocked them out. Shocking footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3zjPToV3jg …
WARNING: NO GORE
Why would NATO send ukraine expensive NATO gear that would implicate NATO involvement, when they can send them much cheaper second hand Soviet or chinese shit that the ukraininas already know how to operate?
because US arms export is a business. they sold a lot of bushmaster ar15s to the georgians (pic related)
plus I can't see where the USA would have gotten one. I thought Iraq, but iraq never had one of these.
It's a business, and the product it makes is expensive as well as a symbol of the west. If NATO showed it's direct military support for ukraine it would cause more popular support rallying at the side of the separatists as the pro western junta would be exposed for the puppets that they are. Not to mention that second hand soviet leftovers from poland/bulgaria/romania/hungary and china made crap is cheaper(that means more can be sent) and more fit for ukrainian cannon fodder that already knows how to use them. Just imagine the media reaction in Russia if the ukrainian army suddenly got themselves abrams tanks or leopards, m4's and f16's. It would really help convince any people who are still on the fence and then some.
they've cried wolf many times now. though lots of separatists use russian flags, themselves, so it might just be confusion
in any case, russia has never invaded in a secret jewish manner. that's the west's MO. if they did invade, you'd know for sure
how can propaganda even work in the age where everyone on the planet has a camera/video recorder in their pocket at all times?
where are these destroyed russian armored vehicles which have crossed into ukraine? there's no excuse not to have pictures to back up claims anymore
pics or it never happened
>implying putin can ever be taken at his word
"those little green men in crimea have nothing to do with russia. they are a spontaneous, local defense force with modern uniforms and weapons from...er...ebay i guess"
>confirmed for 12 year old
That's all nice.
Although there is another simpler explanation:
Ukraine is broke as fuck.
They owe money to Russia (Gazprom) and they have been losing money for months. Even if NATO wanted to sell them gear, and Kiev agreed to buy it, Kiev cannot afford it.
On last thing.
Regardless of how austere anti-Russian sanctions are, there is no way Russia will break before Ukraine. Ukraine is going bankrupt and it's going to be a rough wake up call when those idiot West Ukrainians go to the bank to pick up their pensions and checks and there is nothing there.
It's working pretty well so far. It's just that now most propaganda isn't outright lies, but events spinned and blown out of proportions or the opposite, kept quiet about or downplayed.
You was thinkin liberators, init?
Propaganda works even easier today exactly because of that.
Today everyone idiot with a cell phone can play the role of a reporter.
Do not forget that most of Obama's bullshit so far are based on social media reports.
The entire MH17 anti-Russia media campaign was based on tweets and facebook.
That nigger came out first thing, and blamed Putin himself, and we STILL have no proof on who was responsible for MH17.
Not that it matters. It's completely unrelated and inconsequential in relation to what is happening in Ukraine.
glorious soviet time flu and cold spreading mechanism
What is Crimea
We have no troops in Crimea, jk this my land now
Russia didn't invade.
There were more than 20K Russian soldiers stationed in Crimea under a Russian-Ukrainian agreement.
The Russians simply secured strategic objectives.
Then we had a referendum, and now everyone in Crimea is happy.
You think they do it on purpose like dumping conscripts on the border while pmc do the assault on the big cities or they're stupid to fall for the same trick the second time in a row?
I can't wait to see RIDF and RTards btfo when Europe invades and divides up Russia even further.
>why are the rebels such shit fighters?
oy vey goyim, don't bump this thread, us JIDF are in the process of sliding it as we speak.
> One of the humanitarian trucks was found stolen by Ukrainians (what a surprise). The driver and several civilians accompanying it were killed and burned. Driver had his scalp ripped off.
> Russian Defense Ministry says there was no russian military column that crossed into eastern Ukraine.
No seriously, every time >>34022199 gets bumped it quickly drops to page 5 within half a minute. Sliding is in full effect.
how strange. so some trucks are already in ukraine
and since the truck's load wasn't stolen or destroyed, it must have been a small force loyal to kiev. possibly one of the volunteer battalions
It's not a "trick" they can avoid, though. When you try to cut the enemy territory in half, you're prone to become surrounded if he manages to get in behind you and close ranks again. The rebels mostly knew when to retreat to keep their lines closed, the Ukrainians just keep pushing their men forward without being able to secure their back. At the southern cauldron, they could now try to break through back the way they came and create a pocket of rebels around Marinovka, but since this pocket would be at the Russian border, the rebels still have an easy way out and won't be too concerned about that. It might be the best move the Ukrainians can make in that area, but it seems they don't want to do what basically amounts to a major retreat in the south. False pride and people in charge that do not care for their soldiers.
OR maybe you're right and they want to get rid of some Right Sector battalions. This would weaken the far-right influence overall, like reducing the risk of a coup from that side. With the complicated and backstabbing politics of Ukraine, such a scenario is completely plausible.
ukies started to burn down the Donetsk
Burning airport right now. looks like they let burned earth when retrreating
Dunno what's going on there, but there's also an aid convoy from Kiev that arrived today in Lugansk, apparently, and also there have been aid trucks all the way, just on smaller scales. Just recently, Khadirov send some aid trucks to Luhansk as well. Maybe it was one of those.
ukies went hysterical when russians send out own convoys. and suddenlly they found own aid in 2 fucking days and send it out to starving population in Luhansk.
personaly i think they just took army food they were sending to own soldiers and then just declared that this will be aid.
no pictures were published. i bet they will roll out one or two trucks with food into the "liberated" village and then film all shit for own propaganda. like they did it in Mariupol few weeks ago.
> Come to my thread made by Cassidy & Associates where we spam anti-semitic astroturf
> you can totally trust me
Fuck off and die you piece of shit. Israel belongs to America and faggots like you should be hanged.
The EU must be destroyed and berlin must burn in the faggot hell it intends to impose on all humanity.
> why would they destroy food?
1) food makes Ruskyland look good (being fed by the ruskies)
2) Food tainted with propaganda, poison, etc
3) Ukrainistan knows that the military would take the food which would be a PR nightmare when used by the Ruskies.
4) Distribution of food, assuming it met the people, would result in more russo-sympathy coupled with friction caused by any situation where the people who hate Kiev are being given food by Kievies that came from Russia ("We hate you fuckers but Russia wants us to give you this caviar, premium vodka, fillet mingon, and lobster tails while we bomb your homes")
5) Russia wouldn't be giving anything away without a cost. At the very least, this would be seen as a bribe.
The ideal situation would be to exterminate the Russians and the rest of the dirty euros before they plunge this whole world into another world war. All germans, however, should be tortured to death first since those fuckers are back-stabbing piles of shit.
What do the eastern savages use? Do they have their own Humvee-like vehical or do they just rely on their Maxx/Coot knock-off amphibious vehicals?
I have a Coot and its more armored than those shitty rusky ATVs
>2014 while I'm mining gold in Luna Country New Mexico just north of Deming
>Still thinking I'm a Russian/EU shill
Fun fact: I hate Russia and europe. That's why I want Ukraine to die so that Russia - and Germany - can be the next for the guillotine.
The dirty EU should have thought about the consequences before trying to fuck with our petrodollar.
>Daily reminder that the only brick remaining for your petrodollar is Saudi.
And anyone who even touches that brick will have to meet the full force of the United States military. You don't fuck with a desperate foe... especially when they can bomb the whole world back to the stone age right after breakfast.
Also, we own Mexico and once the dirty Russians start trying to trying to woo them to their side, we're going to invade the shit out of Mexico until the 2nd Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo results in the compete annexation of Mexican territory. Just push for a Mexican-Russo alliance and you can guarantee that there'll be a lot more New Mexicos.
1 Mexican is worth as much, if not more than, 10,000 euros
>Being a tripfaggot
>Thinking your opinion matters.
Seriously no-one knows what the hell is going on. Seriously what's the story here, what did they make up this time?
>Seriously no-one knows what the hell is going on
Give Cassidy and Associates a couple days and they'll start shilling a bunch of pro-soviet bullshit.
Everyone that works for Cassidy should be charged with treason and executed.
>everything gone quiet?
>no-one knows what the hell is going on.
>Dunno what's going on there,
Looks like cassidy and Associates have their marching orders. Fucking paid shill (or shill-followers)
Thats dumb. Germany didnt had troops in france. Germany wasnt recently part of france either. Invasion implies you move troops from ur territory to the enemies. Even the first bush denied ukranian nationalism. If you want coparisons, ukraine is like texas and decided to steal saint louis when it broke off. Basically this is the us/eu act of expansionism not russia.
anyone got a map of rebel held territory? i dont trust the one on the bbc
>What the fuck is Cassidy and Associates
The people shilling all the:
1) Pro Russian/Putin bullshit
2) JIDF conspiracy theory
3) All the anti-semitism
4) All those shitty black and white racist/anti-semitic comics
5) Bunch of other intentionally defective "counter arguments" to leftist arguments.
They're the faggots who keep pushing the racism and anti semitism here so they can play the "look at all these evil conservatives" game.
>shit law firms
Think they're more of a PR/lobbyist company.
They're the ones pushing a bunch of info-pics on here which are intentionally bullshit so they can track their spread on twitter. They seed stuff that can be refuted so that they can neutralize their clients' political opponets' amunition.
They also push the anti-gun stuff. Their images can be detected by using the 'paint can' tool in paint on the top corners of pics. They have subtle markers which can be easilly found. Have examples on my other hard drive.
Cassidy & Associates
> Cassidy & Associates is a government-relations firm based in Washington, D.C.. In 2007, The Washington Post reported, “Cassidy helped invent the new Washington,” and was “creator and proprietor of the most lucrative lobbying firm in Washington.”
It was founded in 1975 as Schlossberg-Cassidy Associates by Gerald Cassidy and Kenneth Schlossberg, both former aides to Sen. George McGovern.
Since 2011, Cassidy and Associates (“CA”), one of USA’s largest lobbying firms has as one of its clients, Mir Quasem Ali, one of the 14 indicted by the International Crimes Tribunal (“ICT”) for war crimes committed in 1971. Documents from US congress disclose that CA has assembled a four-member team to lobby the ‘US House of Representatives, the US Senate and the State Department’. The team included its Chairman, Gerald SJ Cassidy, one of Washington’s most influential lobbyists
Thus, to be crude but honest, what CA is trying to achieve is this: To do whatever it can with its own government to influence and/or pressurise a third world country to back off from a legitimate judicial process which enjoys overwhelming popular support. Such a contention seems prima facie morally objectionable and unethical, doesn’t it? What does the law say in this regard?
Lobbying is a constitutionally sanctioned activity in the USA.
Kiev takes territory slowly and methodically, minimizing civilian casualties as they inflict heavy losses on the rebels who have done nothing but lose ground and flee to Russia.
I suppose you're going to try to convince me that their defeat in Slaviansk was a "strategic retreat" lel
Same here, an earlier post claimed they were behind the "JIDF hoax". It honestly wouldn't surprise me since I've always thought that the JIDF did more harm for their cause then anything else. They could be retarded settlers though.
Please explain yourself. I'm not Russian BTW but pretend that I am and be as coherent as possible. What exactly does Cassidy and Associates have to do with RIDF, I've never even heard of CA.
>>BREAKING There are 8 #Ukraine brigades currently either encircled or extremely close to being encircled around #Donetsk & #Luhansk #cdnpoli
8 brigades is almost 20k people. I doubt Ukraine's military is even capable of fielding that many soldiers, much less use them all in the ATO.
> Rock Solid Politics
Oh wait, it's from a lying shitposter that copypastes RT. Never mind.
This one is from Ukraine's ministry of defence
And this one is from Russia
Pick whichever bias you prefer.
Information out of Ukraine seems way too out of touch with reality. They still haven't given up the ATC black boxes yet were the first to point fingers. They are the boy who cried wolf. BTW when are the Russian tanks getting to Kiev?
Some reports/videos I've seen today
> Ukrainian Lviv air mobile brigade... ...or rather what's left of it.
here the thread about it >>34022805
> Killed the commander of the punitive battalion "Kyivska Rus" Alexander Gumenyuk. The "Kievan Rus" battalion commander of Ukraine army once said: give me soldiers and I'll conquer Moscow. Now got killed.. picture related
> A PrivatBank Office belonging to Right Sektor supporter, Oligarch Kolomoisky, was damaged in an explosion. Elsewhere in the city an unexploded bomb was found next to the Ukrainian Military Registration and Enlistment Office.
> Izvarino. Another Ukrainian team destroyed. Some american MREs found, nothing special.
thanks anon, ill probably be leave the russian one as ukraine has lied more in this war than they have killed civilians, and lord knows they've been killing a lot of civvies
Even W. Ukrainians no longer buy Kiev's bullshit anymore. Maybe that's part of US design, so that Kiev is forced to do as they say otherwise they get got by their own people aka Maiden 2.
really? Malaysia seems to think it was kiev.
>They still haven't given up the ATC black boxes
>when are the Russian tanks getting to Kiev?
1-4 weeks after Putin starts full scale invasion
hopefully that will happen anyway, providing russia doesn't beat them to it
Nope, I'm talking about the Ukraine ATC recordings which were confiscated by the SBU and have yet to be released. A Ukrainian official even questioned the relevance of releasing the recordings and then claimed not to know where they were. Not looking good at all.
>1-4 weeks after Putin starts full scale invasion
I thought they were getting there in 30 minutes...
At least that was the constant line back in December.
> Ukraine ATC recordings which were confiscated by the SBU
Let me guess: You got that from PrisonPlanetLive, where it was sandwiched between a chemtrails article and an article claiming that 9/11 was an inside job.
You assume that a brigade in Ukr has regular strength. That's a fallacy.
And I wish RT would get into details, they don't seem to report much about Ukraine anymore, the live updates are two or three a day, and nothing really military stuff.
>all dat denial
it's ok...you're allowed to have your secret leather fantasies
everyone knows pubs are the biggest closet faggots around
>No it was reported by reuters, bbc, and cnn
When I google "MH17 ATC recordings", I get only .RU sites, Doneck militia twitter feed and a bunch of copypasted articles on conspiracy sites.
Ukraine's SBU security service has confiscated recordings of conversations between Ukrainian air traffic control officers and the crew of the doomed airliner, a source in Kiev has told Interfax news agency.
No apology needed. Just try and keep an open mind about things. That is unless you're unconditionally on Ukraine's side.
>> 15:29: Ukraine's SBU security service has confiscated recordings of conversations between Ukrainian air traffic control officers and the crew of the doomed airliner, a source in Kiev has told Interfax news agency.
So they did... the Dutch seem to have a copy though.
And come to think of it, the cockpit voice recordings weren't yet released to public either.
the absence of an argument is not known as "circular logic". It's like how everyone overuses the term "Ironic" when the situation is merely a coincidence or strange occurrence.
Didn't really have one. Just peeved that you used "circular logic" incorrectly when there's an sticky that details its correct usage. Guess I'm being a bit of a sperg considering your short term memory is also fucked.