>>35760168 Not really, Russia is improving every year since Yeltsin came and USSR collapsed, look the birth rate, look at population, look at GDP, look at pensions. 1999 was the year Putin got elected, well 2000 actually. The squatting thing doesn't really exist in Russia just like every image of U.S.A is a fat guy, Israel a big nosed dude, and Europe with it's LGBT - nigger shit. The corruption is getting lower, I don't know anything about diseases in Russia, drug rates are pretty high. >>35760246 I'll move back to Russia anyway. >>35760289 Well, I was talking about Western Jewish governments, Ukranian conflict, but yes everyone including me would like to live where there is more shekels. >>35760334 Uhh, to be honest the best girls are the ones mixed with North Asia, since 100% Russian girls are skinny and have small boobs but beautiful faces, the ones mixed with North Asians are even more beautiful. There aren't any real Russians pretty much left, a lot look mixed.
>>35759927 you have really good politicians that play the international game very well thanks to based mobsters that back them.
>tfw i can't fuck a guy in the ass without getting murdered >everyone is drunk all the time >krokodil >without oil you have nothing >fuck off pinko faggot >you act all high and mighty and condemn america but do it doubly back >won't man up to crimea/georgia shitstorm >hide behind 'rebels' in ukraine >fuck goats >poor ass population >mudslimes in the south owning your shit >gtfo pootine
>>35760627 I'd call shit on that. You can fuck anyone you want, but keep it a secret, nobody in Russia would like to hear how a guy banged another dude. Not true, actually the most alcohol in the world consumed is in Europe, the least is at Asia. Krokodil is bullshit made up by Western propaganda, it isn't popular in Russia as you think it is. Without oil we have a lot of other exports, but mostly oil. No, we don't all act high, and we do not condemn America. To be honest we don't give a flying shit about U.S or the West. No, we don't hide behind rebels. >fuck goats That's funny, because in half of U.S states fucking animals is legal and in whole Russia it's not. >poor population Ughh, comparing to other poor countries Russia is in the middle-point, give it 15 years and Russia will surpass Europe economically. Muslims in the south don't own shit, Putin got rid of it.
Get rekt, faggot, update your shit by 20 years at least. >>35760758 Not really, look at Europe, it's economy is collapsing. >>35760907 I prefer Imperiya, but it's a matter of choice, let me let you on a secret, every vodka manufacturer is owned by one huge ass company and it's the same vodka... In Russia of course.
>>35761308 These is never a good side and a bad side, but side with Russia since West is the aggressor, East isn't. It's pretty easy to prove, just think about it. >>35761254 Repost from another person. >Don't know for how long though. Russia has gone from Detroit to Chicago in 10 years. Meanwhile parts of the West are heading for Chicago at an alarming rate.
Give it 15 years with the current trend, and we can bond over past comfyness at a Russian 101 course...
Also, look at U.S debt rising while Obama is in charge, he clearly doesn't know what to do... all he does is vacations, golf and shitty trips.
>>35761449 Because having a choice to choose a person of the same gender as yours as your sexual partner is going to mean you will not have kids, since you won't have kids the white population is going to pretty much extinguish. Less whites, more cheap workers, less quality.
>>35761475 Nah, I don't. An alliance between Russia and countries like Kazahstan and maybe some South American countries is fine. I find China disgusting. >>35761496 You are on /pol/, almost everyone here hates LGBT and Feminism, Russia doesn't have it. Just wait till Europe's shit fall-down, revolution sparks and Russia will surpass you.
>>35761644 No. >>35761640 I said North Asians, in-case you really believe every Asian is a fucking guy with Chinese eyes you must be having some problems. There is a small Russian mix with chechens/tatars and etc... It's pretty small you will notice details such as hair, face, body change - Russians still have Russian eyes :).
>>35759927 I am pro west because Russia originally sided with the Nazis in world war 2. As an American, you Un think I'm going to forget or forgive that shit? Russia, and Russians still need to be punished for siding with Hitler. Until this happens I'm not interested with peace with your kind. All I want is conflict and to cause you pain.
>>35761516 I will agree with you on the notion of less white workers, less quality of a product.
But that is one aspect of many. When those children are property of the community, they are groomed to do what the state tells them. Their choices become nonexistent when told, where to attend school, what to do as an occupation, where to live, who to marry.
On paper, the idea of cherry picking those destined for greatness might seem like your are building a stron society, but forced to do something against their will, only creates resentment and a low moral, without motivation. No one will want to succeed for their state that did not allow them to live the individual's way.
>>35762173 >where to attend school >where to live >where to work >who to marry I don't mind anyone choosing that, it's not doing any bad to the country, now does it?
>>35762152 They didn't side with Germany, after revolution and first world war they just wanted to live. They made agreement not to attack each-other, Germany broke it. Let's not forget how U.S bombed Japanese civilians, as much as you think U.S has done in WW2, they really didn't do that much, it was mostly European countries and USSR. The reason why USSR was losing fast was because after revolution and world war they had problems with communication, troops were around the country just getting trained, USSR was big and getting across 1/3 of it took a lot of time by land. USSR didn't have a lot of transport as well.
False. They allied and attacked Poland together. As an America why is it not within my rights to start attacking Russians who have moved to the United States? How will you answer for the crimes of Stalin vs the Polish people? How do you explain the crimes commited by Russia across Europe?
>>35762424 The state choosing all aspects of an individual's life is a bad thing. These ideas are how coups are started.
And I understand the brutality of communism as far as "do this or else"... It does not create an environment for the individual to do right by it's state. Most will pretend to be incompetent to avoid being forced into things. Thus creating another, non-contributing dependent.
A recipe for collapse, that we have seen so many times in the worlds history. The only example of communism today that barely gets by is N. Korea, and they produce nothing, but a dependency on China.
>>35762799 Nobody ever liked Stalin, every Russian hates it, they tried to kill him, poison him, man he was just fucking lucky Also blaming what one person did on all Russians, he was Georgian, so fuck off and make a new anti-Georgia thread.
Russia's government is morally bankrupt and fatally corrupt. Russia's economy is financially bankrupt and fatally dependent on only two resources — wheat and gas. The demand for wheat has fallen dramatically planet-wide, which leaves Russia's economy mostly dependent on its gas exports. Russia's population is an very old one and its birth rates are not high enough to replace the dying. By every measure, Russia is a dying government, a dying country, and a dying nation.
Hitching yourself to a sinking ship would be universally considered an imbecilic and shallow-minded choice. Then again, marxists are imbecilic and shallow-minded, so it isn't surprising to see yet another of thousands of pro-Russian/pro-marxist posts getting BTFO.
>>35762879 No fuck you Ivan I think ill stay here and remind you that in two years the chances of you dying in a war against me goes up significantly. Yes, I do hate you and I've never met you. You're a worthless slav shit half mongol son of a whore, worse than a nigger even.
>>3576287 >Nobody ever liked Stalin >Results of a controversial poll taken in 2006 stated that over 35% of Russians would vote for Stalin if he were still alive.
>] In a July 2007 poll, 54% of the Russian youth agreed that Stalin did more good than bad while 46% (of them) disagreed that Stalin was a "cruel tyrant". Half of the respondents, aged from 16 to 19, agreed Stalin was a wise leader.
>>35762936 Hahahha. >I am just going to write some bullshit I made up about Russia with absolutely no proof ignoring charts Fuck off, your point not proven. >>35762941 Russia is not communism, can we all stop portraying Russia as communism. >>35762967 >worse than a nigger even It's funny I understand your language better than you do. There will be no major war, watch EU's economy collapse as Petrodollar goes kaboom.
>>35763035 Uh-huh, there wasn't even an attempt for a diplomatic solution. Russia invade Crimea as soon as they overthrew the puppet president, and soon started arming separatists without even an effort to talk to anyone.
>>35763043 That's crap, every Russian I know hates Stalin, every person I met in North Asian countries doesn't like Stalin. >>35763103 Nah, U.S sponsored a coup d'etat and Russia is defending itself, I can easily prove it by asking why does U.S support the first overthrow of the government, but not the second one? Also didn't support police violence before, but now does.... Your point is worthless. >>35763159 I am pretty sure Russia would lose vs NATO, but it's not like it won't have any allies of it's own.
Why would there be if the Ukies government is controlled by the West, do you think U.S would attempt a diplomatic solution if Russia did the same to Mexico? Use logic,anon. >>35763270 I think your point is right, Scotland is just fucking U.K big right now. If vote YES goes on, U.K is fucked.
How can you claim to be pro-Russian and not know that the Russian government is extremely corrupt (Putin with 140% of the vote), their population is shrinking, that their economy is bankrupt and entirely depended on just two resources - one of which has has seen its demand fall sharply (wheat), and the other is under downward pressure from a glut of world supply competition. If you are going to be pro-anything, you should know quite a bit more than the "Hodor. It makes me feel bad ass to support Russia."
>The US will collapse economically! False. You tried that Ivan, remember p--11? The rest of the fucking plebs blame mudslimes, I know it was really you. Does it sting W was such an idiot that he ate Putins b8 whole? Yep. Just like it will sting come winter and you can't find anything to eat except pride and LNG. You had your shot to collapse the west and you failed in typical alcohol baby slav shit half mongol fashion. You're not dealing with a troll here doing his for kek's. I have true hate in my heart for your people and will be lobbying for my war against you.
I'm pro-west because thanks to you, my country was infested with commies until 1989, which in turn halted any economic growth for years.The main reason why I still hate your guts is that many Russians want the return of Soviet Union. Even your goddamn president thinks the fall of Soviet Union was one of the worst tragedies. On the other hand, I also don't support Ukraine, because their president made Stepan Bandera a national hero a few years ago, and there are still many monuments of him in Ukraine. Ideally, I'd like Ukraine to stay, though, because anything is better than sharing a border with mainland Russia.
Russians are massive failures, it's in their blood. You don't even have to fight them, their stupidity causes them to an hero all on their own. Like with the Russian Empire and the USSR. Just wait for them to collapse again. How's it feel to have once been a superpower? Hold onto that feeling, it will never happen again.
What are your thoughts on Armenia OP? Do you think it will exist in the future? I know that Russia pretty much guarantees Armenian's existence by protecting Armenia from Turkey and all the other muslim nations.
>>35763346 Logic you want to talk logic? >Logically most country's communicate when there is a dispute between them >Logically most country's don't invade other countries that just experience a revolution >Logically most country don't fuel civilwars in other countries >Logically if Mexico wanted to trade with russia, it has the fucking right to.
>>35763414 Just a question, how retarded are you? >>35763427 Shilling intensifies. >>35763417 Their population is shrinking just the same way as European and U.S is, if you filter out Nignogs and Muslims. It was an error in 2011, it's impossible for it to be 140%, I am pro-Putin and most of my Russian friends are pro-Putin, some aren't. And no, Russian economy isn't bankrupt, it's improving, while U.S debt is rising. >>35763433 Cool story.
>>35763623 America creates debt it never has to pay back, it works out great. America is still the biggest economy in the world. Russia on the other hand is losing its influence in the world to the point where they can't even use oil as a bargaining tool anymore. Enjoy clinging on to the thought that "America will collapse soon"whatever makes you feel better about living in a shitty mob run nation.
>>35763598 What you just said is literally an example of every nation in the world. >>35763604 >Logically countries don't build gazillion troops around another countries, and then blame them for aggression. >Logically U.S isn't trading with Ukraine, it's controlling their government. >Logically the west is fueling the civil war. >Logically U.S always invades every fucking country without telling anyone. Try harder. >>35763672 Keep dreaming, see mine US-BRICS pictures. >>35763910 Yeah the cousin who lost to a small kid named Vietnam. >>35763971 BRICS has higher economy than U.S has already, also Russia isn't going to really rely on the west anymore in the future 30 years. As soon as EU goes down, so will U.S, crisis will be huge. Bigger than in 2008.
>>35764129 Brics is a combination of nations. If you combine The USA and it's allies, your numbers don't come close. Russias economy isn't even close to the states, even with being the second biggest oil trader.
>>35764129 All your "Russia will be a better nation when the Eu and USA collapse" rhetoric is retarded. As it stands now, The United States is the top economy, top military power, and most influential nation onot the planet. But keep pretending it's going to collapse any day now. Face it, your nation isn't a shadow of what it used to be, you can't even control your former Soviet states.
>>35763623 You know what fine you won't post any way to contact you so keep fighting the useless fight here on \pol\ why do you argue with idiots here who are mostly poor unemployed NEETs? You think you can win arguments let alone disprove hundreds of western keyboard warriors? Or maybe your just the opposite and doing cointelpro like the rest of the so called "Russians" here? \pol\ has no political, economic, or any relevant power at all and will never have any effect of real politics let alone geo politics. If you witnessed the bitcoin threads you could see the hundreds of beggars that begged for single bitcoins, begging even though they are proud "masterrace" this echo chamber is filled with people who hope for a happening because they have nothing in this current state, they are mere opportunist and most will leave this place behind once economically satisfied. As a Russian I feel sorry for you, but i think you are actually trying to stir up hate.
>>35764378 That's not my point, you aren't getting it - EU economy stopped growing, ever check the fuckign news? This year it just grew all-time low, and Russia's economy is growing, BRICS economy is growing. Check every chart on Russian economy growth, GDP growth. Now check European. I am not saying U.S economy will collapse, what I am saying is there is going to be a huge crisis in Europe regardless what happens.
>>35764469 2nd this This guy is just starting shit this have him away >>35764255 you see any other pro-Russians supporting him? No. I can also start a thread with an American flag and "ask a pro-American anything" it's too bad people are falling for this. It's just a pro-west circle jerk
>>35764575 Check Wiki, Russia has more Nukes in stockpile, U.S has more active nukes, but Russian nukes are much more stronger because Obongo didn't want to spend money on Nuclear programs. Russia still has the most powerful nuclear bomb in the world. >>35764469 I am just bored, man, I know /pol/ isn't politics, I know it should be renamed to /rel/ or /ra/ aka religion or race.
>>35764722 I am not making it my way, in any way if Russia starts losing you really believe they won't use nuclear power and just wipe itself and everyone else like suicide? That's why there won't be a war between U.S and Russia.
>forces Vietnam into peace treaty because we were leveling their northern cities. >Vietnam conquors South Vietnam 2 years after the US leaves >mcdonalds >makes my nikes >capitalism, capitalism everywhere.
>>35764860 What's with this crocodil bullshit, It's not popular in Russia, in a way that I never heard any of my friends in Russia asking me to join them on Krokodil, just some shitty drugs a small % uses.
I don't get why /pol/ is suddenly super hardcore anti-Russia when 6 months ago it was a literal 50/50 split. And 6 months ago RT was praised as a good contrary news source but now any link to RT will just get shitposted to nothing.
It has got to be some kind of organized shilling effort. There's other way /pol/ can agree that the USA and the EU are evil yet not support Russia if only for the reason just to make them weaker.
>>35764735 If you are bored and have time to draw arguments on \pol\ how the fuck are you any better? You know why all of us don't even post our opinions here right? Just stop for the sake of yourself. Go do something productive. I seriously doubt you are Russian.
>>35764945 The OP isn't Russian or pro-Russian but anti. It's cointelpro. Post a topic that you want others to obviously argue against. If I hate Russia I post a thread saying how great it is then let the thead get fucked over. He has yet to provide a throw away email.
The states has faaaaaar better delivery systems. russia might have better ICBMs but that is by far the weakest and most vulnerable of the trident. The states also has better early warning systems and missile defense.
It's pretty obvious You really don't understand nuclear strategy. That "we got the biggest bomb" comically naive
>>35764920 >Forces Vietnam into peace treaty God damn it, I know your own history better than you do, what a shame. A an election president promised he'd stop U.S from sending troops to Vietnam, after getting elected his kept his promise and eventually U.S withdrawn. Your McDonalds is still made by your own low-wage workers. And no, they still had communism until next elections, even wiki says you lost.
>>35764945 It's people like OP that are making people here hate Russia. All of us left because its not fun anymore to be on here when we have to spend time defending our country instead of engaging in real objective criticism of other topics. This is a board that should discuss politics but became an echo chamber of hitlerfags,HAPPENING, and just general circle jerking. Really getting to reddit levels of shit.
>>35764971 I speak Russian perfectly, I am Russian, and I can't really do anything, It's 3 AM, just bored, can't sleep. >>35765016 There are no shills except retards thinking they are. >>35765077 He meant best brand of Vodka in Russia. >>35765098 ... >>35765102 >Still believing your missile defense system is fully functional and actually working as of right now. It's pretty obvious you don't dig that if you explode a 100 kiloton bomb right under your fucking ass from a submarine in the air with a missile defense system it will still wipe everything off and fuck you over. >>35765128 But /pol/ are trolls, come on, /pol/ isn't politics, just rename it to /muhharyanmasterrace/ already. >>35765230 No, he cherrypicked. >>35765248 Always was like that, just went you think about it, there are no politics, there is no country, there is just you and there is no fucking point in doing anything. >>35765301 I am just oppressing anti-Russian logic, why not? since I am pro-Russian.
>>35765359 You are trying too hard. >>35765383 ITT : Retard posts in a thread he doesn't want to be, makes up some random shit, still believes most of the anti-Russian posters here aren't two or three people including him.
>>35759927 It's a false dichotomy. Russia was allied with the democratic west in the past two world wars. They've been a valuable trading partner since the e3nd of the cold war. We're being pushed into this new cold war by ideologues in the U.S. State Department who see Russia as an obstacle to their ambitions to build a new "transnational" order.
>>35765361 There is so many books to read, things to learn, things to see, music to listen too. Yet you decide to try to argue here? Stop making excuses and Go to bed already if you had something worth in you're life to do then oh would be saving your energy to do it. I hope poster on \pol\ know that OP is only making more anti-Russian consensus here on pol.
>>35765599 I don't care about anti-russian crap on /pol/, I am just bored, so why not make a pro-Russian tread and argue with everyone who thinks wrong by my ideology. It's pretty fun and sometimes pretty stupid.
>>35765722 Muslims are dumber, lower quality workers, however it's just a conspiracy that they trying to take over west, they are ruining it not because they want to, but because it's their way to survive. ISIS is not and never will be a threat.
>>35765747 You're destroying this board for Russians who actually want to be here without causing shit. You are making this board hell for us. We don't want to have Internet warfare with the western posters because in reality they are our greatest ally of all in this, there is so much worse shit happening in all of our countries and yet we won't realize it because people like you are instigating shitposting and shilling wars. You gave me no way to contact you to tell you about this and refuse to listen to logic of decent Russians. You deserve every shitposters coming to your threads
>>35765757 You're trying too hard. >>35765858 Wait, so not going to war with Hitler is called siding? Nice try. >>35765905 Sorry, I don't have the same ideology as you do. >>35765977 I said if you remove the fucking nignogs, if you truly aren't nigger than I feel sorry why you can't read. :) >>35765981 You're trying too hard.
What is this samefag derailing my thread though, being this hurt over a pro-Russian thread :).
>>35766048 Yeah and what are the majority of your countrymen doing? Way to project you fucking idiot. all here on pol are minorities that are quickly realizing that the majority is flawed yet we fight amongst our selves.
>>35766085 You're trying too hard. >>35765987 >Talks about Vietnam War >Associates Vietnam in 1955-1975 to today's Vietnam. >Being this autistic. >Hurr durr we lost that day to Vietnam, but it's not communist today so we won that day... Yeah, keep telling that to yourself.
>>35765810 >ISIS is not and never will be a threat.
ISIS isn't a threat, but Islam is. As a culture it has been at war with the west since the 7th century. As an ideology it is wholly incompatible with Western values.
Given the way Western culture has been debilitated by Cultural Marxism, our societies are now extremely vulnerable to foreign ideologies. Islam is highly aggressive on an ideological level. If let unopposed it will ravage us like ebola in an AIDS patient.
Frankly, the best thing we have going for us is the fact that they are so aggressive that it's starting to provoke a backlash. However, the President of the U.S. is still insisting that we are "not at war with Islam" even as we begin military operations against an entity known as the Islamic state. Clearly our cultural immune system is still weak, and Islam, as a cultural pathogen is still a threat.
>>35766246 As much as you think of Islam as bad, it's just a goat-fucker religion, It's so popular and most of the poor countries are Islamic that's the only reason of brutality, It's not really evil like you all think it is. The problem right now is immigration, It's fucking everything up, cheap untrained market, we have enough unemployment already. >>35766303 You're trying too hard. >>35766296 Kek.
>>35766534 Well they've said Russia has invaded every 2 weeks for months yet somehow Russia hasn't quite conquered them with the amount of manpower Russia's army has compared to Ukraine. Furthermore there has been no evidence at all to these claims.
Seems very suspicious and almost untrue, don't you think?
>>35766577 no evidence but cnn said they did so i guess they did
>>35766436 Yeah, sure it was Russia, no proof, but okay. >>35766457 Ukranian propaganda - ITT : Russians support terrorist who are against U.S, but hate Georgians who are against Russians. >>35766533 You're trying too hard, once again. >>35766534 West invaded with coup d'etat, Russia responded, U.S would've done the same. It's not an invasion, west is aggressive, not Russia ;). >>35766592 Why would we or should we? >>35766604 Yeah, I don't really watch RT nor CNN, just logic explains a lot.
>>35766525 Can you provide any logical counter argument besides Hurr durr your trying to hard. You need to move back to Russia so this environment could sort you out. It's easy to support Russia being a fat sack of shit who is comfy there.
Why do they keep saying they invaded them every 2 weeks yet they're not being conquered? Do you think Russia's military is that weak compared to volunteer battalions and the National Guard?
Western media has just flat-out lied about lots of things involving American involvement in the middle east, supporting Israel, etc but obviously this time they're telling the truth, right?
Your logic would point to this being a way to slander Russia and promote the public in supporting sanctions and war against them.
In any case I don't even live in Europe. Just after being lied to by Western media about basically everything regarding foreign policy and even stuff like US infringing on civil liberties regularly it's almost hard to not be distrusting of them. Somehow I trust ex-communists over the US government.
>most of the poor countries are Islamic that's the only reason of brutality
Islamic countries are not brutal because they are poor, they are poor because they are brutal. In fact, many Muslim countries are quite wealthy, but are also still quite brutal. Look at Saudi Arabia, according to the World Bank it's per capita GDP is 8th in the world, that's higher than America's. However, they still chop people's heads off for "sorcery".
>>35766901 Russia doesn't keep Crimea because it belonged to them before, they keep it because they need to take over Ukraine, they need to take over Ukraine because they need to defend their borders, defend their borders from NATO which is sponsoring Ukrainian current government. >>35766904 Moving back there in 10 years, had enough of this multiculturism.
>>35766841 They supported every Arab country during wars with Israel it's country is 15% Islamic it's richest person is Islamic they will soon take over Moscow too with their swelling number. Does anyone have that picture of all the Muslims praying in Moscow? If you think western Islamic immigration is bad check Russia's out, but you don't actually live here you coward.
>>35759927 I live in the West, and use its resources, infrastructure, and institutions daily. I'm anti-Russian because you are not part of my family, tribe, or nation, you are inimical to my interests in the world, and you have resources that I could take advantage of.
>>35766988 Latvia doesn't, I was in Latvia just 6 months ago, prices same as in Europe, salary 300$/month. It's impossible to live there, everything sold out, people look tired. >>35767072 Look, It's not about Islam, when will you fucking understand there is a difference between North Asia, Asia and Middle East you fuckhead, North Asian Muslim people are much less degenerate than Arabs, from ex-soviet countries. They mixed with Russian blood. You should check your shit before even posting on /pol/, the richest person is Uzbek, Uzbeks don't look anything like Chinese or Arabs nor do they act like. Most of them know Russian.
>>35767181 Enjoy your feminism, shitskins and no civil liberties then.
Have fun with the TSA fisting your ass everytime you board a plane and I'll bet in a few years you'll be imprisoned when the word "nigger" on the internet is illegal and the NSA finds out you posted it twice on /pol/.
Then you'll be sent to a majority black prison and the guards will let the inmates know your offenses and you will be thoroughly raped by Jamal, Jabar and Tyrone
>>35767267 Ahh, they made a lot of innovation that you still use everyday, have cheap gas and wheat. >>35767072 Why should you be pro-Western if your government supports Gays, Feminism, Multiculturalism with nignogs? >>35767214 West has more money in these 10 years.
>>35767662 That's Kazah guy, and keep telling us about your superior white race your ancestors did blah blah some shit there and that that you'd never even contribute to. Also just a tip - Chinese actually contributed the most to innovation. Haha.
>>35767907 He moved to Russia, became Russian resident with Kazakh nationality - now he is in Russian military. Was it that hard? >>35767819 Who said Russian legal system isn't fair? Russia has political freedom. Yes, West has better standards, enjoy your kids getting molested by Pakis though.
>>35767819 >>relatively independent and fair legal system >>political freedom >>2A >>better standards of living
Oh lord. Political freedom? Despite what Western media will tell you, you're much more free in Russia than in the United States, whatever freedom you have right now anyway is quickly going to be gone in coming years. Your guns are being taken away and soon will be, kikes are running your government and silence anyone who speaks out against them, sure I'll admit standards of living are quite a bit better.
The difference is though, while American society is crumbling, Russian society is improving from the horrible lawlessness and corruption of the 90's. A lot of your misconceptions about Russia are from the 00's and the 90's. There really is not more corruption in current day Russia than there in the US. Current legal system is actually more or less fair, its not the USSR anymore where you'd be thrown into a work camp for the rest of your life for small offenses.
While you do beat us in the some categories currently, we beat you in other ones, the only real lack of freedom in Russia doesn't really effect the average citizen. Sure if you run for president or are a political party you might encounter problems but if you're a person who doesn't slander current government and actually makes factual, logical arguments or criticism you have nothing to worry about. The journalists you hear about who get imprisoned, the facts are often exaggerated or wrongly translated and made to seem much worse than it is, their crimes are also spun to appear as if "simply made criticisms in personal blog about Putin".
>>35768221 >HURR DURR I AM RETARDED USA USA USA USA USA OUR CARRIERS WILL NOT BE KILL BY NUKE AND THERE WILL BE WW3 Yeah, keep dreaming, U.S won't have the balls to start it. Especially when a woman will be elected,ahahaha. Also nice fair system you got, any woman can claim you raped her after having sex and get you jailed, really fair. that doesn't happen in Russia, because feminism doesn't exist there.
>>35768148 >blah blah kikes blah blah I can organize an opposition political party and stage demonstrations here without fear of reprisal. I want you to try to do that in Russia, and tell me how far you get. Journalists that don't tow the line get shot in their stairway, and oligarchs that might rock the boat are put in for fraud. Of course it doesn't affect the average citizen, but I think most Americans would find it more insidious than "muh degeneracy". You also poison perfectly harmless former KGB living in western countries, whereas we mainly assassinate mudslimes.
For being so close to ukraines border you seem to know fuckall about its shaky politics. The rivalry was between western ideals and russian ideals....whatever the fuck that means when it comes to a shit hole thats already been broken up.
Your freespeech is going to be especially limited with your female president, just you wait.
Journalists don't get shot in their stairway... This is just something you hear in western media or clickbait online news website because it sounds mysterious and interesting about the fascinating world of Russia.
There is plenty of national-socialist groups in Russia btw, the most in the world I'm pretty sure. Why aren't they being mysteriously killed in staircases?
You have just as much fear of reprisal in the US, sure you may not be imprisoned... yet but let me know what happened to that Mozilla CEO(he was in a much higher position than you'll ever be and yet he still got forced to resign) who spoke out against LGBT-shit and chickfila.
There was some US senator who's name I forgot but he spoke out against the jewish lobby and quickly retracted his words and publicly apologized.
At the very least, at least Russia doesn't finger your asshole in airports or the NSA scan through your shit and jack off to your girlfriend's nude selfies.
Enjoy your rights while you have them, its quickly changing and when you get your new female president I'm sure things will get a whole lot worse. Free speech changed to disallow "hatespeech", more gun taking away, mandatory LGBT propaganda in elementary schools, etc. Enjoy it goy!
Sure you may have the guise of "freedom of speech' in the US and you won't be arrested and imprisoned yet but do you really have it if you voice an unpopular opinion you will quickly be silenced from outside pressure, whether it be jews, LGBT, feminists or other.
If you work in a professional environment and it is uncovered that you support National-socialism and frequent /pol/ you will quickly be dismissed for some bullshit reason like "not following company culture". Much higher positioned people, senators and CEO have had much less extreme views than you probably do, yet were punished thoroughly, not by the state by but your society.
I'd love to see you inform your coworkers or boss that you don't support Gay pride parades with your freedom of speech, please record their reactions and what follows in the coming week. Keep thinking you have more freedom of speech and freedom of the press than every other country though.
Do you really still have freedom of speech or is it just a thinly veiled guise?
Although at this point it's probably about Jimmy Hoffa-tier.
There's a big difference between public pressure for political correctness and a legal or institutional framework for enforcing it. For example, while Don Sterling was "forced" by the NBA commission to resign for casual racism on camera, the US government had nothing to do with it, and Mr. Sterling is free to carry on his life with the rest of his money, power, and freedom intact. If you're self-made, you have complete freedom to hate niggers and gays in this country.
>>35769146 >Journalists don't get shot in their stairway... This is just something you hear in western media or clickbait online news website because it sounds mysterious and interesting about the fascinating world of Russia.
>>35770900 >>35770926 Ok so a few journalists supposedly died due to Putin, could have just been by someone who disliked them but ok. All of the other ones were from before and its clearly evident the problem of corruption is reducing.
There's like 2 reporters who could be related to have died from Russia's government, the other ones in the list are back in a time when Russia was admittedly under huge corruption and in terrible times or from other people not related to the state. How is this different from the NSA or the American government imprisoning people while they did illegal searches or sometimes without trial? I'd argue a large list of being raped by niggers for decades is worse than a couple of people dying.
Says the Americuck who's country spends $100 billion/year on an unwinnable perpetual drug war which hurts the tax payers, but makes the cartels ever more richer.
Americuck from a country that spends more money on building prisons than schools and universities.
A country where armed police patrol schools with pretty coloured handcuffs for 6 year olds
A country that has done nothing but destabilise the entire world through their unsustainable economy and lust for the military industrial complex.
USA tried to rebuild the world in their own image only to realise that their image is what's wrong with this world. Now they are on the decline, kicking and screaming, as they attempt to drag the entire civilization down with them to the deepest pits of hell.
>>35768776 You can gorganuze you patry is Russia. Gov will eben help you to get some votes coz right now They neex some kind of opposition. Communists lost almost all popularity and Putin needs some1 to replase them. Shirinovsky and others in Duma are irrelevant.
Do you think that Russia will ever be able to have true democracy? Will Russia ever become as developed and 'rich' as western nations, even though the immense size of the nation and the requirement of having a buffer zone to the west are a huge burden on Russia? How will Russia solve it's infrastructural problem, and efficiently connect the east with west, without having to rely on the trans-siberian railroad?
>>35775849 Well, I asked this to view the OP's opinion on it. Democracy can simply not work in Russia, due to the massive amounts of ethnicities and seperatist movements that can rise and tear up the country.
>>35775736 >Do you think that Russia will ever be able to have true democracy? No. Coz democracy by itself is nit needed here >Will Russia ever become as developed and 'rich' as western nations, even though the immense size of the nation and the requirement of having a buffer zone to the west are a huge burden on Russia? Maybe. But we dont need to be'rich like them'. We will get market uble and other nasty staff in return. We neex our own model. >How will Russia solve it's infrastructural problem, and efficiently connect the east with west, without having to rely on the trans-siberian railroad? Why shouldnt we rely on railroads? Its cheap and works fine. All we need is lots of modernisation.
>>35776181 Thank you for your answer. I myself live in the Netherlands, are you Russian from origin? I'm very interested how you vision Russia's own socio-economic system would look like, please educate me on this.
Did you know that Russia is: #1 in the world in absolute magnitude of population decline (53% over 50 years old) #1 in the world in deaths from diseases of the cardiovascular system #1 in the world in the number of aircraft accidents #1 in the world in terms of human trafficking #1 in the world in the number of abortions (around 1 000 000 abortions per year) #1 in the world in sales of hard liquor (4 580 000 alcoholics with yearly death - around 700 000) #1 in the world for the consumption of alcohol and alcohol-containing products #1 in the world in terms of growth of tobacco #1 in the world by number of smoking by children (14 000 under 18 are drug addicts) #1 in the world in terms of growth in HIV-infected (2 380 000 of people HIV infected) #2 in the world in terms of bureaucracy #2 in the world in the number of suicides (978 000 mental patients) #2 in the world in the spread of counterfeit drugs #2 in the world in the number of migrants (100 000 people fled Russia in 2012) #2 in the world in the number of prisoners per 1,000 populations #2 in the world among manufacturers of pirated discs #2 among countries in the world by number of children adopted by the U.S. Citizens #2 in the world in the world in the number of people seeking asylum in the West #2 in the world in the number of journalists killed in the past ten years #3 place in the number of refugees (over 40 000 towns are abounded) #3 in the world by the influx of migrants #3 in the world for car theft #3 in the world for the dissemination of child pornography
>>35776294 Sorry for grammar - my laptop is fucked.
>are you Russian from origin? Yes
> I'm very interested how you vision Russia's own socio-economic system would look like, please educate me on this. Just some tips 80% of money are locked in fin. systems of 6 biggest cityes. Working with oil? Then you are rich. Moscow and Russian is two different countryes in terms or wages, prices, culture and problems. Immigration is slowly becoming problem. Two many unedicated peasants from South East.
>>35776593 #27th in the world for the quality of education in 32 countries environmental rating #43th in the world in economic competitiveness #51 among the least corrupt countries #57 in the world for quality of life (1/3 of children before reaching 13 are already drinking hard liquor) #62 in the world in terms of technological development (between Costa Rica and Pakistan) #65th in the world in terms of life (4 000 000 homeless children) #67 place in the world in the development of human potential #70 in the world in the use of information and communication technologies #97th in income per capita #120 in the world ranking of economic freedom #27th place in the world in terms of health #134 in the world for the duration of life (71 years for women, 55 years for a man) #147 out of 168 in freedom of the press #159 in the world in terms of political rights and freedoms #175th in the world in terms of physical security of citizens #182 place from mortality rate among 207 countries of the world
>>35776610 This seems very radical. You're by this basing that wealth of the people is determined by the city they live in. Could you explain how this system would work exactly? Would this not result in capital flight to major Russian cities?
I can also not see how immigration is an issue in such a scarsely populated country. Not to forget that you have the biggest landmass. However I can see how immigration can be an issue in the Russian core. Perhaps effort should be made to provide a proper level of basic education for those immigrants, and have them properlu intergrate. Are western immigrants more welcome?
>>35759927 Im pro west because i live here. Id rather my team win than let russia be relevent again. living in the sole remaining world power is awesome, and russians have a bad habit of being incredible assholes (stalin cough ivan the terrible cough).
>>35776593 >#1 in the world in the number of aircraft accidents
Russia has had 5 accidents with aircraft destroyed. America has had by far the most with a whooping total of 62. You should factcheck instead of mindlessly pasting information USIDF has previously posted.
Is OECD Russian Putin shills because the stats don't agree with you? I guess they're a zionist organization now.
>According to data recently released by the Organization for Co-operation and Development (OECD), more than half of Russian adults held tertiary degrees in 2012 — the equivalent of college degree in the United States — more than in any other country reviewed. Meanwhile, less than 4% of Chinese adults had tertiary qualifications in 2012, less than in any other country. 24/7 Wall St. reviewed the 10 countries with the highest proportion of adults holding a college degree.
>>35766941 Its not exactly wealthy if the wealth is mostly concentrated in with the royal family and most of the population are uneducated retards who practice wahabisim. Youre fucking retarded if you think worshipping one variety of sky fairy is more important than education and upbringing.
that website is a woefully inaccurate database on russian air accidents. looks like they might have only started counting the ones since 94 while the american section has been conting them since the 70's
l o l, RIDF caught posting un-checked "statistics" and "facts"
>>35767353 Its pretty nice here america actually. Im happy and feminism and cultural marxism dont affect you of youre not a social retard and cant accept others way of thinking (or cant choose woman that wont call rape after you fuck). And with hard work you can do relatively well for yourself jobs wise. Even the ghetto areas are survivable if you make friends.
Just be a bit positive and be good person and everything should fall into place
>>35776806 >This seems very radical. You're by this basing that wealth of the people is determined by the city they live in. Could you explain how this system would work exactly? Would this not result in capital flight to major Russian cities? This is tax standardaling system. All regions pay taxes then they are forced to get money from federal gov. They get a penny in return. If you want money you need to ask for them from gov. So all money flows to big cityew with strong lobbing capabilityes. Also most of the state corporations and top companies HQ are situated in Moscow.
> Ican also not see how immigration is an issue in such a scarsely populated country. Not to forget that you have the biggest landmass. Immigrants dont want to settle outside 'money ring'. So they are flowing inside already crowded areas. Not that many of then in Syberia e.t.c.
>Are western immigrants more welcome? Yes. You still cqn be in troble in some rural areas but cityes are ok for ya. Also I am ok with any foreigners if they are behave.
>>35776949 >living in the sole remaining world power is awesome So I will give weapons to alkaeda, Isis, Ukie nizi wanabes,Jews(obligatory for pol) and poke Russians with a trolling pole. What can posibly gone wrong?
>>35759927 What do you think, wll Russia do anything to protect Assad in the upcoming days , before the Nigger chimps out on Syria? Now that the goyim have been provided by a coommon enemy in the middle east again (ISIS), what's stoping Putler(Oy vey) to chip in to the international effort and send his own air force to liberate Syria from ISIS?
>>35759927 >Ask a pro-Russian anything Why don't you kill yourself due to the fact that you're either a Russian or that you support Russia? > tell me why are you pro-West and not Pro-Russian Because Russia is a multinational shithole and you can't have a country that's multinational without it having to either have an evil government or be stricken with ethnic/gang power. Russia has also had to rely on lies and deception to the point where Russians feel that truth is a subjective thing, not objective (read "the long telegram" by George Kennan) There's a reason why Russia is always corrupt and evil and America isn't. > I will tell you why you are on the wrong side. Go ahead, I love hearing fairy tales about how Putin cares about little children and delivers presents on Christmas. They always crack me up. >All shills welcome :). Most shills are Russians since Russians, unlike Americans, can't rely on truth to back up their claims.
>>35783865 >Russians are well known for being pussies who cannot fight and rely on their weather to save their delicate asses every time. They also rely on cutting themselves off from the rest of the world physically and information-wise. Seriously, Russia's best defense for an impending war is to censor their media, make up a bunch of stupid shit, and destroy their own cities/towns and anything of value. Hell, their only way to keep their troops from giving up is to kill them if they get demoralized.
Russia is a pile of shit that will break apart soon and they know it. They aborted so many kids that if they don't fight within the next 5 years, they won't have the manpower to defend the very borders they still have.
Russians in a nutshell: >Abort all your kids >Wonder why you're now having a population crisis
Lets just nuke Russia and get this shit over with before they terrorize any more innocent people.
Sitting across the Atlantic as always stirring shit in Europe because it doesn't affect them
People in Washington do nothing but light up wars around the world, realistically their contribution to any significant conflict is minimal. All they do is fund both sides and destabilize the world, then swoop in to clean up the riches from weakened nations. Very much a "chosen" tactic.
>>35784147 >Russia had many wars, she won in all. Except WW1 where the Germans defeated Russia by putting 1 faggot on a train ...And the Cold War where Russia fell apart Oh, and the Mongol invasions which only spared the Russians because they decided to use Moscow as their regional tribute-collector
>"Brave" Americans never fought on their land, they always attacked from the back (and fought only with small countries (even in Vietnam was defeated). 1) Civil war was the biggest western war of its time. I think Americans know how to fight on their own land they know to fight over ideas, not heritage or other worthless nationalistic crap. 2) America kicked North VIetnam's ass militarilly. We only withdrew because it was unpopular, the president got impeached, and little faggot hippies drunk on Soviet Active Measures brainwashing demanded an end to a war we were winning. 3) We pretty much caused the Sino-Soveit split during the Vietnam war thus achieving more than we would have if we just wiped north Vietnam off the map. Considering how much damage that split caused, you should keep your mouth shut, vodka fiend. 4) America is a Hegemony, not an empire. We don't have to fight wars since we can give people the incentives to fight for us by promising access to our markets and even possibly mutual defense. We don't need propaganda or fearless 'plants' to kick your ass; we just need to offer your enemies a better deal than you can and we ALWAYS offer a better deal.
>>35784157 >Russia is a pile of shit that will break apart soon and they know it. They aborted so many kids that if they don't fight within the next 5 years, they won't have the manpower to defend the very borders they still have.
Russia has experienced Attila, Khazars, Cumans, Vikings, Mongols, Poles, Swedes, French, Finns, Germans and two world wars, always taking the fight on their land. No country for a thousand years, could not defeat the Russians. You perish before when Arabs and Negroes reached 90% of the population of your country.
>>35784188 >Yes, you prefer to hide your continent and be afraid of our nuclear missiles. We're not afraid of your nukes. You don't even have enough nukes to destroy all our cities and most of your missiles will probably fall out of the sky due to corruption, disrepair, and shitty construction.
If you nuke all our cities with a population over 25,000, you still won't kill every American and the survivors will kick your ass. Also, killing our liberal population would help us out and screw you over. America would remain 1 nation under God because we're united by ideas, not ethnonationalistic heritage.
All we have to nuke a couple of your cities and your whole country will fall apart. Being a multinational state isn't the brightest idea when the only apparatus to keep it together is so easy to destroy.
So, here's what I say: Nuke us faggot so we can kick your ass and turn your own people against you.
>>35784224 >I thought USA and Russia were meant to disarm. Were. Then Putin came along. You can't disarm when fighting an enemy who wishes to encroach on you and your allies. >Clearly USA were lying through their teeth and Russia caught on quick and stopped before the difference in nukes became too great Accusing AMERICA of lying to RUSSIA? Haha. That would be like farting on a turd. Russia would never disarm since they have to fight in order to get that delicious eastern-Europe border they need as a buffer to protect them. If you actually believe that Russia would honestly disarm, then you're delusional. >Lying Americunts as always We didn't throw all our intelligence money towards Active Measures propaganda like some other country.... Like I said, us lying to Russia is like farting on turd.
>>35784359 1. The Germans were not defeated Russia, they took advantage of the revolution and forced her to make peace (but Russia has allowed the British and French to win) 2. In the cold war, you were able to win only at the expense of lies and propaganda, forcing the Europeans to believe in your shit. By the way, Russia you are not ruined, it has retained 90% of their land. 3. Civil war is not a war with another state, you fought with the Indians and civilians. 4. America fled from Vietnam and all its bombing turned out to be useless. 5. America is an Empire of lies and deceit, while you're lying - you're alive.
>>35784262 >Oh man that is a dangerous game. No, its a fun game. Russia's only strategy is to bluff and little do they know, we know they're bluffing.
While Nuking them would get the job done now, we can always wait till they get a stronger alliance with the rest of the (expanding) Axis of Evil so that we can get all those fuckers to unconditionally surrender after we kick their asses.
Besides, China will backstab Russia when they realize that all we have to do is divide their people in the western half of China against the Eastern seaboard and they'll fall like a house of cards.
>>35784440 >Russia has experienced Attila, Khazars, Cumans, Vikings, Mongols, Poles, Swedes, French, Finns, Germans and two world wars, always taking the fight on their land. No country for a thousand years, could not defeat the Russians. You perish before when Arabs and Negroes reached 90% of the population of your country. Who cares? You fuckers are weak as shit now and much of your weakness comes from your eastward expansion and incorporation of countless nationalities who could never be fully assimilated.
Everything you had to survive against those people you've now lost. You don't reproduce, you're no longer the only country that can fight in the winter, you don't have the treacherous terrain you once had now that you have roads, and you're not governed by a strong central government like before.
In other words, you're weak as shit right now and only the city liberals, terrified of your nukes, are keeping us from giving you fuckers the pounding you deserve.
>>35784480 Lying is in their blood. >"At bottom of Kremlin's neurotic view of world affairs is traditional and instinctive Russian sense of insecurity. Originally, this was insecurity of a peaceful agricultural people trying to live on vast exposed plain in neighborhood of fierce nomadic peoples. To this was added, as Russia came into contact with economically advanced West, fear of more competent, more powerful, more highly organized societies in that area. But this latter type of insecurity was one which afflicted rather Russian rulers than Russian people; for Russian rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political systems of Western countries. For this reason they have always feared foreign penetration, feared direct contact between Western world and their own, feared what would happen if Russians learned truth about world without or if foreigners learned truth about world within. And they have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it." - George Kennan's Long Telegram
>>35784915 Russia has never been dependent on the West. If need be, we reshape gas. Yes, it will be hard, but we'll survive (and China will help us, and you do not (within a month will stop all the European plants).
>>35784631 >1. The Germans were not defeated Russia, they took advantage of the revolution and forced her to make peace (but Russia has allowed the British and French to win) Nope. Britain and France had America's industrial support and would have won easly. Remember, the Schlieffen Plan fired the bulk of its forces WESTWARD thus, since France didn't get overrun by the time the Germans went after Russia, France and Britain weren't doomed without Russia. Also, that fag was the core of the revolution along with that moron that got stabbed in the eye. Without the faggot, there never would have been a successful revolution considering how much effort was put towards killing it in the crib. >2. In the cold war, you were able to win only at the expense of lies and propaganda, forcing the Europeans to believe in your shit. Hahaha. We were far more honest than you. Remember when Nixon got impeached? Even VOA, our chief propaganda tool, told the world our president was a crook. You fuckers couldn't even admit your own leaders' shit smelled bad. >3. Civil war is not a war with another state The South was, for all intents and purposes, a foreign state. War was inevitable and we kicked their asses. If you don't think Civil war matters, then you're deluded about how brutal those wars are.
>>35784631 >4. America fled from Vietnam and all its bombing turned out to be useless. 1) We were winning militarilly. Even the North Vietnamese admitted that. The Tet Offensive pretty much killed their army off. 2) The Sino-Soviet split, made possible by the war, did much more than a traditional victory could have done. We were able to destroy the only alliance that made Russia powerful. 3) It was politicians who wanted us out, the military knew we'd win. Its a defeat when your military is putting their tails between their legs and running (like Russians in Afghanistan). >5. America is an Empire of lies and deceit, while you're lying - you're alive. Empire = state which is comprised of multiple states and thus, in turn, multiple nations. Empires, by their very nature, are multinational regimes. America is a mononational state which is also a hegemony. If we were multinational, our borders would match the geographical borders of North and South America. We aren't an empire since empires don't respect human rights, are full of infighting, and plain suck and fall apart (example: USSR). Calling us an empire is plain stupid. We're not multinational no matter how many times you say it.
>>35784836 >Will trade with China, will block the gas and stop buying european products (Europe. for 3 months, lost 400 million euros...) Good. So you'll essentially give European allegiance to America and you'll cut off that cancer known as China. Thanks. We'll be more powerful than ever. Thanks
>>35785206 1. America began to provide assistance only to the end of the war (as always). 2. What is your honesty? Stalin asked you 3 times to help Russia, landed in Normandy in the 42nd year. You three times refused, and landed only when the USSR started to close in on Berlin. The USA is a bad ally (today's Iraq is a good demonstration). After the fall of Berlin, you had the nerve to ask us for help with Japan. 3. The South was weaker than you, it consisted of peaceful farmers, bankers and Indians. You killed unarmed.
>>35784716 >You write nonsense, after the SNV we have as many missiles as you (and China, Russia's ally, the SNV was not signed). No you don't. America + Britain have far more missiles than Russia + China.
Besides, we can take far more hits than you can without falling apart. Most American gun owners would survive a nuclear war and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to be having to deal with the Chechens, Ukrainians, all all the other opertunistic garbage in Russia while 100,000,000 Americans are invading.
>>35785419 Didn't do much. You do not have the capacity to provide the necessary assistance to Europe, and you have no army. When Russia will finish building a pipeline to China and sign a military Alliance, we will just have to wait until you die from inflation, immigrants and crisis.
>>35784224 >>35784631 >5. America is an Empire of lies and deceit, while you're lying - you're alive. >Lying Americunts as always >2. In the cold war, you were able to win only at the expense of lies and propaganda,
Funny how you accuse me op propaganda and lying when I am on an American and I'm an American whereas you are russian scum and you're on an American website.
>>35785493 The power of Britain in the distant past. Stupid American, even one of Russia's enough missiles to destroy the entire planet. Nobody is going to use all the missiles.
Boy, 100 000 000 fat Americans we just laugh. Every man in our country is in military service in 1 year, we have training, you don't have it. You do not have the strength to deal with China and Russia, on one of your soldier we'll put their 100, one of your tank, we'll put our 10.
>>35785433 >1. America began to provide assistance only to the end of the war (as always). Not our war faggot. Britain lost their empire due to FRDs demands because of the shit they pulled to get American soldiers killed. >2. What is your honesty? Not lying about everything to our own people (i.e. something you fags can't do without your country falling apart) >Stalin asked you 3 times to help Russia, landed in Normandy in the 42nd year. You three times refused, and landed only when the USSR started to close in on Berlin. The USA is a bad ally (today's Iraq is a good demonstration). After the fall of Berlin, you had the nerve to ask us for help with Japan. That's because stalin was a crazy fucker and we hated him. Getting Russians killed by the Japanese would have made an invasion of Russia much better. Having a few million Russians die to prevent 1 million Americans from dying in that invasion would have been ideal. >3. The South was weaker than you, it consisted of peaceful farmers, bankers and Indians. You killed unarmed. No, it consisted of a violent and crude white population, a weak aristocracy, a peaceful slave population, few indians (because they didn't want to get killed by the vast majority of Borderland Scots that made up the population), horribly shitty farmers, and few bankers or businessmen. The South was an aristocracy with an obedient citizenry of violent thugs not unlike Detroit today (where their cultural descendents now live)
>>35785537 >Didn't do much. You do not have the capacity to provide the necessary assistance to Europe Hahaha >and you have no army. HAHAHA holy crap haha >When Russia will finish building a pipeline to China and sign a military Alliance, we will just have to wait until you die from inflation, immigrants and crisis. Hahaha, enjoy your alliance with a back-stabber. We will outlive you since you will have to take Eastern Europe to survive which will inevitably lead to a counter-attack.
Europeans like being slaves to their government and won't mind being on rations for a while while their industry shuts down and they get "lend lease" loans like before. You can shut down their factories but we'll just ship over the military equiptment that would have come out of those factories in the first place.
America can mass product tons of guns and butter, especially when Americans aren't the ones using those guns and eating that butter while fighting and dying in large numbers.
>>35785783 >The fact that I have enough education to communicate with you in English. So you're a generic paid shill hired by the Germlin. Nice to know. > But you will not have enough brains to communicate with me in Russian. Why would I learn that shit language? You needed to learn English because we're superior to you but I don't need to learn your backwards language since Russia really isn't that important to America economically. Hell, the only language other than English that I know any of (but very little) is Mexican. Why? Because Mexicans > Russians (and don't think we don't know about your plans to buddy up with one of the cartels; we already have the war plan ready to deal with Mexico).
>>35785690 >The power of Britain in the distant past Not when we've given them 180 Trident 2 SLBM; many of which are MIRVs. GB is the silent killer since their arsenal is packed in submarines.
>Stupid American, even one of Russia's enough missiles to destroy the entire planet. Ooo, looks like someone's scared. You know full well that that's bullshit. Your main arsenal is 300KT warheads. Considering that your 50MT bomb didn't destroy the world, you'd have to be braindead to think that your little firecrackers could. Keep spreading that lie so American can get a good laugh.
> Nobody is going to use all the missiles. We sure as hell will. You and your allies need to be put down permanently.
>Boy, 100 000 000 fat Americans we just laugh. Every man in our country is in military service in 1 year, we have training, you don't have it. You do not have the strength to deal with China and Russia, on one of your soldier we'll put their 100, one of your tank, we'll put our 10. Hahaha, most of your soldiers would be dead or defected by then. China would fall into civil war. You'd be too bogged down shooting your own people. Besides, we'd wait a few years so that you animals would exhaust yourselves before any invasion. Also, our invasion would be to add new nation states to our collection of allies.
Its cute how strong you think you are. Americans will win because: 1) Many civilians are former military 2) Many civilians actually know how to use guns since they can shoot shit in their back yards. 3) Americans will be angrier at Russians than Russians will be at Americans.
So come on you little scared faggot, nuke us. Considering how delusional you are about the effects of nukes, it seems you're pretty scared to take your gloves off and engage in the Duel of Nations
>>35786220 >2014 Scotland separates from England >2015 England withdraws from NATO >2016 Russia is building a pipeline to China >2017 Europe without Gas >2018 Europe third world country (The European part of Russia and China) >2019 U.S. is losing influence in Iraq, Libya and Syria >2020 yuan grows >2021 collapse of the economy in the U.S. >2022 Mexico annexes USA...
>>35786504 >EU could start buying them from any other region of the world you know? because we can afford it. Or just get a small amount from America for heating and cooking and then just let America produce all the weapons and keep your economy going during the war. If your men are willing to fight, we're willing to arm them and help out but we're not going to fight the war for you (besides, we'll also be busy nuking Russia and China).
Think about the benefits: >Good pay for soldiers >Access to American technology >Degeneracy falls as the fags get drafted >Immigrants get naturalized by being drafted to fight and possibly die for their new homeland >European economy improves with reconstruction akin to the Marshal Plan (albeit a little slower due to our cities getting nuked)
This is the sort of self-indulgent "muh exceptionalism" train of thought that will land you in the deep water Americuck. If you think Russia-China alliance is not a threat to you, then you clearly have no idea about the world you live in. One day our friends in the EU will wake up and realize America is pushing them down the shitter.
>>35786728 >I don't live in Russia, can you comprehend that or is your Americuck brain too retarted to understand that concept? Yeah, right, Mucovite. Considering how easy it was to figure out you're a dirty russian without you typing a single russian phrase, its obvious that you're not very good at hiding your identity. There's no non-russian russian speakers who would be working alongside Germlin shills. Go fuck a Muscovy (pic related)
>It doesn't matter if this is an American site or not, the internet is not called the World Wide Web for nothing. Yep, except you don't see me on russian sites attacking russia. America doesn't need shills.
>Don't be jealous of my bilingualism faggot Hahaha, speaking russian isn't an accomplishment - its a waste of time. Enjoy the bread lines that are inevitably coming to Moscow and remember 1 thing: I'll be laughing and eating while you're starving and miserable.
>>35786850 >You guys aren't killing gays by sending them to the fronts, you're making them under Shekelstein's orders by brainwashing young people. They won't die, they'll just loose their panzy ways and only the very few actual gays will still be fudgepackers. Euros are decadent and thus socials ills have crept up in their societies that a good war will cure. >>35786857 >American calls Russian faggot, although Russia has banned same-sex marriages... Except Russians promote fag marriage everywhere in the world. The only reason Putin's not holding a rainbow flag is that you faggots aborted so many of your military/employment-aged kids that now you have to do everything you can just to get your birthrate up. Won't matter, though, since in the end, Russia will be liberated and most of your kids/adults in Moscow and other urban areas will be fried (and not the good 'fried' like fatback)
>>35786935 >That would be a classic sight. Fuck I would laugh Don't make him feel bad, Russians are so used to small countries invading and destroying their cities that they just don't realize how absurd a Mexican invasion would be.
>>35787041 >There's plenty, plenty, plenty of those. Doubt it, unless its euros doing it. Our government's too stupid to pull off shillery without getting caught doing it. We couldn't even shill a fucking Cuban website that USAID made without getting caught. If the Cubams could catch us, Putin would be having a field day with any attempt to shill his sites.
Also, Russia is such a pile of shit that only delusional russians don't get how fucked they're going to be shortly.
Europeans aren't decadent at all. Europeans are naturally very conservative, it's American and Jewish influence that has made Europe decadent. It's Russia that's reaching out and offering the Orthodox Christian faith as an alternative to the cultural nihilism and destruction American style sexual and moral subjectivism leads to.
Are you blind to reality or something?
If you are a true conservative and love conservative values, than only Russia provides hope.
Furthermore wars don't make gays magically not gay. Indeed don't be surprised if next time America is winning a war they raise the rainbow flag.
>>35787273 >Europeans aren't decadent at all. Europeans are naturally very conservative Actually, they are. Its a natural phase a civilization goes through once its done fighting wars. >it's American and Jewish influence that has made Europe decadent. Jews don't control jack shit and you know it. The whole "Zionist Conspiracy" was a Soviet Active Measures campaign designed to sow distrust between Americans and Israelis since, believe it or not, Israel has always been America's bitch and has fucked over a lot of Russian allies. America owns the Jews, they don't own us. Their lives are in our hands and you know it.
>It's Russia that's reaching out and offering the Orthodox Christian faith as an alternative to the cultural nihilism and destruction American style sexual and moral subjectivism leads to. No, like China and Tsarist Russia, you're trying to use Christianity as a tool of control over your people by having the government get involved in religion and ensure that the religous messages are the "right" religious messages. Eastern Orthox Church is the whore of Russia and lets every Russian government defile her for their own ends.
>If you are a true conservative and love conservative values, than only Russia provides hope. Haha, yeah right. Russia sees freedom as a privilage granted from the government, not an intrinsic aspect of man. It is a country that lies, uses fascads to trick people into supporting it (eg all the antiwar, pro communism bullshit that tricked many liberals until Glasnost). Russia acts 'conservative' today since it wants to deceive American libertarians and conservatives since the liberals are still pissed off for being used.
>>35787454 >This coming from an American of all people is just ludicrous. No, that makes it all the more true.
>"It was no coincidence that Marxism, which had smoldered ineffectively for half a century in Western Europe, caught hold and blazed for first time in Russia. Only in this land which had never known a friendly neighbor or indeed any tolerant equilibrium of separate powers, either internal or international, could a doctrine thrive which viewed economic conflicts of society as insoluble by peaceful means. After establishment of Bolshevist regime, Marxist dogma, rendered even more truculent and intolerant by Lenin's interpretation, became a perfect vehicle for sense of insecurity with which Bolsheviks, even more than previous Russian rulers, were afflicted. In this dogma, with its basic altruism of purpose, they found justification for their instinctive fear of outside world, for the dictatorship without which they did not know how to rule, for cruelties they did not dare not to inflict, for sacrifice they felt bound to demand. In the name of Marxism they sacrificed every single ethical value in their methods and tactics. Today they cannot dispense with it. It is fig leaf of their moral and intellectual respectability. Without it they would stand before history, at best, as only the last of that long succession of cruel and wasteful Russian rulers who have relentlessly forced country on to ever new heights of military power in order to guarantee external security of their internally weak regimes" - George Kennan
Wars don't make you "tough" and "manly". What makes you manly is the ability to raise a family in the right Christian way, to provide for it in all times, and to be a good example for your community.
The "Zionist conspiracy" is no conspiracy. It is simply fact that the majority of Hollywood blockbusters, AAA video games, and many other parts of mass media are produced by people who identify as Jews. There is no one organization that leads these Jews, but like any peoples and any culture, they have goals and aims which come about as a spontaneous order.
For example the spontaneous order that his emerged in post-Soviet Russia is one of attempting to revive the Czarist order and European traditionalism.
The spontaneous order of today's Jewry is to erode traditional Christian values.
Christianity in Russia is not a tool. Russia is (one) inheritor of the (Eastern) Roman Empire. The Rus people were so impressed with the wonders of Constantinople that they baptized on mass, along with other Slavs.
It's not that Russia has control over the Church, it is that the Church has control over Russia.
To understand how authorotative the Orthodox Church has always been over worldy rules, Google "The humilation of emperor Theodosius"
For a short time, when the deplorable and Americo-Jewish setup Soviet Union existed, Russia lost it's Christianity. While amany Russians may remember the Soviet Union fonly for it's pure military might, none remember it well for it's spiritual wealth.
Today it can safely be said that the will of the Church governs social policy in Russia.
Today the battle lines are clearly marked. On the one hand you have Russia, a nation of people who till recently suffered the greatest evils of Jewry, and are unlikely to forget. A nation regaining it's Christianity and embracing it's traditional folk culture, and dreaming of a return to Monarchy and patriachal rule over the Empire.
On the other hand you have the United States, devoted to spreading liberalism, decadence, immorality and the basest and worst perversions throughout the world.
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