GET IN HERE, MASSIVE CORRUPTION
SCOTLAND VOTED YES, BUT THEY RIGGED IT TO NO
MASSIVE SCANDAL INCOMING
im watching sky news. they just explained this.
the ballets on the table in your photo are yet to be counted, they do include yes votes. they have only been verified to be legit, but not yet counted.
This is what I gathered from this random picture.
They have a table of all the "No" votes, but they put some "Yes" ballots on it.
Do you have a channel or stream?
Those are unsorted votes, you stupid fucking idiots.
>mfw rigged elections
>ethnic russians voting on whether to be part of russia or remain in a country with an anti-russian ethnonationalist government
>must be fraud, no1 can win a election by more than 10 points
Dude, please, use your brain. Don't make me feel like /pol/ is flooded with people who can't into basic intrigue and backstabbing.
Polls indicated since weeks that it's going to be a very tight battle, latest pools indicating a 48/52 relation. Do you really think an intelligence service would rig the data to 75% to make it obvious? Just how stupid do you think those people are? If they want to rig that, they will do it subtle. A few "yes" votes get stolen here, a few "no" votes from people who are long dead there, and there you have a slightly rigged vote.
Crimea is a whole different thing. There was a reason why they made the result so overwhelming. They wanted to send a message, that the people of crimea stand united against Ukraine and for Russia so no one can say "well but there are still tensions because crimea voted only 60% yes". It would make russian intervention less legitimate.
When Kim Jong wins an election with 100%, its because he is a crazy dictator that literally gets worshipped like a God by propaganda.
I hope you see for yourself the difference.
Dundee turnout disappointment
Posted at 01:24
Yes campaigner and former SNP deputy leader Jim Sillars admits he is disappointed by the relatively low turnout figure in Dundee, which is predicted to be a Yes stronghold. He says it causes a "degree of worry" for the Yes campaign.
Posted at 01:27
The Dundee count is being evacuated because of a fire alarm.
>mfw that illuminati guy was right
are they? i doubt it
>on a table specifically designated for sorted "no" votes
UKIDF plz go
The table is marked NO, you blind shit.
As in, it's a table meant for NO votes.
Would you put both bleach and ammonia in a fucking tub marked "AMMONIA"? I bet you would because YOU'RE THAT FUCKING STUPID
Regardless of the marking on the table, look at the centermost ballot. The "Yes" is marked. Look to the right, the paper is oriented in the same direction, and the bottom square, saying "No" is labelled.
So get fucked
No shit. That doesn't mean they are uncounted. It means they've been counted and grouped with the NO ballots, thus inflating the number of NO votes counted.
Are you seriously this fucking stupid or just a shill?
fucking retard that clearly says "no" as in all ballots on that table should be "no" it is the "no" table
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Kim Jong Un has largest penis of all world leaders, larger than largest war donkey in North Korean Empire.
Kim Jong Un most fertile of all Koreans due to being God himself descended from crying bears in the sky at his birth.
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I would bet money it's rigged, really, just look at how they organize the votes, anyone with great deal of money and power could pull some strings there. I bet this is also how the EU got so big, fucking rigged votes to join the EU
well it's really not that much of a surprise
As a Scott I will admit I voted No. I respect the ancient right of Prima Nocta and think all of our women should have sex with a British lad on her wedding day.
I'm not ashamed of this because Braveheart was a mean bigoted movie and they found CP on Willian Wallaces cmputer
What's that? You're still here? You haven't killed yourself yet?
I suppose the "powers that be" are some group of people that live in the shadows that the public doesn't know about, and that they secretly control elections, and use elected officials as puppets?
Why not? You can just chalk it up as a mistake and a misunderstanding and then drown it out by talking about the latest celebrity scandal and the rest of the population forgets about it soon after.
its on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/2gtoq1/election_fraud_caught_on_video/
get in here, the shills are shilling up a fucking storm.
That sure as hell looks pretty fucking calculated for a "mistake"
Vote counters dindo nuffin
Dey just need money for dey NHS and social services
In this incompetent and unorganised world there is no way a rigorous vote-fixing operation can exist. Its done very half-arsed.
The opposition has to be in on the scam by refusing to follow up and accepting the count tallies at face value.
The point of effect for control is actually the lack of followup by the pseudo-opposition.
The problem is the lack of substantial opposition.
Because Argentina, a country with no right under international law or UK law (or even Argentinean law) to set foot on or control the islands, invaded the Falklands.
It was legally the UK's. The population were not descended from Argentina, nor did they support Argentina.
The UK then let them vote on whether or not they wanted to stay with the UK. They overwhelmingly voted to stay.
Democracy was probably never real. It gives the plebs the illusion of power. Only way for Scotland to become free now is war against the traitorous monarchy who allow their country to be flooded with muds and ruled by Eurocrats.
"Hey Glen where should I put all of these unsorted ballots, the unsorted pile is pretty big, we're kind of swamped"
"Oh okay Daniel just throw them over there on that table that happens to have a NO sign on it but that isn't really being used at the moment"
OH WOW ITS A CONSPIRACY
wow.... just fucking wow
>mfw this is happening all across scotland. People lose their collective shit.
>We Longshanks now
CONFIRMED STACK OF "NO" VOTES
These people have been doing this for the past what, 6 hours? You get tired and make mistakes can happen. Also notice how the 'yes' pile was empty (aside from the later swapped votes). She probably just finished the yes pile right before and then was a little careless.
Saw it coming.
Not the corruption. I knew, corruption or not, if yes overtook no for even a second, people'd scream corruption.
Because people ALWAYS scream corruption. Reguardless of whether or not there IS corruption.
Perhaps the ones with 'yes' on them are chunks of 'yes' votes.
In the video where we supposedly see a lady rigging the votes, note how there is a 'yes' and 'no' pile where she puts the corresponding papers.
This is speculating: But what if the 'NO' tag on the table was a remnant of that? The papers are bound and securely tied together, meaning they won't mix. I would presume that they are stacked in equal amounts, meaning the counters can then vote in chunks by picking up a collection of papers, reading the top vote and placing it somewhere else.
I will never believe, that in a less than 12 hour shift, someone will become tired enough to mistake a X next to yes, with an X next to no, when counting ballots for something that could change the course of the world. Are you telling me they hired the same people that worked in candy factories from "I love lucy" episodes?
Have you ever been with people, like ever? Mistakes happen, especially small ones like this. And yes, despite the huge importance, this was a small mistake. She was careless for maybe 10 seconds and accidently swapped 3 votes, noticed and corrected it.
Can someone give me the skinny? From what I'm gathering, "No" had a pretty decent lead, didn't it?
Minus allegations of corruption, what, really is looking like the most likely outcome at this point?
riots initially, followed by a drawn out legal battle that will be stuck in the bureaucratic quagmire for ages
they rigged it the bastards
I should have seen this coming
Like, how do people see this as fraud?
She puts a yes vote on the no pile.
She notices her mistake and picks it up to put in on the yes pile.
She checks the two votes on the yes pile individually and notices they're no votes.
She puts those no votes on the yes pile.
Seems pretty reasonable and it adds up with her actions. Also calling fraud when you can't even tell what those votes are saying is pretty rich.
If you wanted to mess with the votes, you'd, you know, simply mess with the votes. Put a yes vote on the no pile (or vice versa) without looking back and obvious swapping. Would be a lot less suspicious, no?
this bitch is about to be on the receiving end of an angry mob
Days of protests brought out thousands for the 'yes' vote. No votes brought out a hundred on the best days. It was getting so bad, that the media has been reusing the same 'No' voters on the street for interviews over and over and over. While yes voters has so many around them you would be hard pressed to find them again after 5 min, much less 5 days.
System and Media put on an massive 'note no or else' campaign. Start bitching about people threatening 'no' voters, and a collective 'well yea, fuck them guys' is the response from the scot population.
Polls consistently put the vote at yes higher every time. Day of, shows No getting not only an lead as good as all prior polls showed yes getting, but in some cases are at almost 70% in some areas where the no was polled at barely 48.
For the early response. Not an single fucking yes area. Despite some seriously strong yes areas being known beforehand. Then several blatant instances that call into question vote rigging caught by the media itself and now spreading even as the votes are being 'tallied'. And further complicating the issue is the storm which conveniently causes power outages while some places are tallying votes.
NO problem being mentioned with any of this in the media at all. System will paper over this and ignore.
Scot's get a massive dose of redpill on their status in the UK as captive slaves. Scots have a long history of disliking bitches whom tell them they cannot do something, especially when it is someone whom isn't a scot.
>System may have just lit a fuse.
>Is eagerly awaiting happenings.
>Sadly going to be disapoint cause people are retarded slave cowards.
Such is life in the chan.
All Ashkenazi jews come from Khazaria.
Ashkenazi jews have absolutely no legitimate claim of ownership of the Holy Land. They are invaders, plain and simple.
Protip: No people weren't on the streets because the people voting no don't care. People that don't care prefer the status quo, so they vote no.
Don't mistake lack of 'street presence' as a lack of numbers. Obviously the yes voters feel more strongly about this issue, otherwise they wouldn't be pushing for change. it's only natural to find them to be more vocal.
I don't want to comment on your other paranoia.
Then democracy has taken course. At this point i think No won but in any election with this amount of questioning its good to double check.
I am an American so i could give less of a fuck, i just wanted to see the UK lose.
In 2001, genetics research by Dr. Ariella Oppenheim found that the Jews origins are in Khazaria, and that they are of Turkic bloodline. She also reported that some Palestinians have the chromosome in their blood indicating they are Cohanim and Israelite.
>Oh the irony!
Not really. The pound doesn't threaten the US at all. The Euro threatened us enough in 2003-2005 for us to go to war about but the pound doesn't bother us at all.
The US greatly prefers the status quo regarding NATO, the pound and the EU because the status quo favors the US by a lot. NATO is a forward defense arm of the US against Russian interests, the pound checks the Euro in some ways, the EU checks Russia and is a counterweight to China. While the US doesn't enjoy the same unquestioned hegemony she did between 1991 and 2001, the world as a whole is very US-centric.
If Scotland had voted yes, it could potentially cause NATO problems. Would rUK vote to keep Scotland out of NATO leading to infighting and a potential weakening of the alliance. It's possible. Would rUK have been forced to downgrade their defense possibilities and demilitarize in some aspects, especially in their nuclear arsenal? VERY possible (which threatens the US quite a bit given that UK is the only US ally who actually does any real work for us). Would any NATO infighting benefit Russia? Definitely. Would shakeups in the EU and possibly the Euro lead to China taking a bigger stake in world politics. Well that's just a given.
Basically the US won today by everything staying the same as it was before.
I have been a part of one. I took part in early Occupy where our group went up against the police.
Tear gas sucks. In the Marines we were exposed to it but either I got weaker in the intervening 6 years or the cops have new stuff because once the tear gas came out I couldn't think or even function enough to run away, just stopped moving, dropped to the ground and grabbed at my face.
Lucky I shook it off before getting arrested (they had black people to arrest lol) and managed to get away with a red face, a few hours of vomiting/nausea and the thrill of the day.
As a neutral I hoped Scotland would go independent just because it would be funny seeing the oil run out in 2030 and Scotland turn into the Mexico of Europe.
But that's none of my business.
You have got to be the biggest, most retarded Americuck on this website.
THE SNP CAME OUT AND SAID THAT THE UNCOUNTED VOTES WERE KEPT TOGETHER ON A TABLE BEFORE THEY WERE BEING COUNTED.
YOU DUMB RETARDED NIGGER TITTED CUNT FACED DICK RIDING DILDO SNIFFING, SMEGMA LICKING CUNT HEAD! DIE IN A FIRE.
Scotland confirmed for being Jewed out of Self Determination.
>That fucking accent
I love you scots. I hope you get through this.
OH SHIT OH SHIT
going to keep posting this until it sinks in
>SCOTLAND VOTED YES, BUT THEY RIGGED IT TO NO
Scotland wouldn't be allowed to have independence anyway. If there was rigging, it was probably done because its far nicer to tell people that they didn't want independence than to use force to prove it to them.
Does anyone really think that England would let a referendum impact the rest of the UK that much? Why would England let the feelings of the northerners dictate their security, economy, and place in the world?
If england would let referendums have that much power, then China and Russia would just encourage disunion just to fuck the UK over. Its far easier than invasion and WW3.
>Oh, its no big deal, move on
Do you realize that RT will probably be harping on this for weeks? Russia has everything to gain by having a re-vote.
Why is that a big deal?
1) The 'Yes' position would be far more likely to succeed since the Scots know how popular it really is. (people like being on a bandwaggon)
2) Voters would be fucking pissed that England pulled that shit (even if there was no fraud and just an idiot putting votes in the wrong place). That would make a re-vote far more likely to result in a 'yes' victory
3) If there is no re-vote, then Scots would feel that they were tricked by England.
Regardless of whether or not there was fraud, this one fuck-up made by Sky News is going to have consequences.
half of fucking england want to see scotland go.
england is just as disinfranchised and disillusioned with the current british political elite as scotland is, but the english are the 'majority' and the whipping boy of the union for being big meanies. for some reason i don't see england being allowed to vote whether or not to fuck the union, or getting their own parliament, or being able to exclude scottish mps from decisions that affect england. no, fucking not at all.
the commons needs a fucking cleaning, and the sooner socialism dies the better. vote ukip.
Nobody would ever lie when rigging an election, would they?
>Table says "NO"
>Newscast says "There's the pile of No votes"
Why the FUCK would they be unsorted? Do you put unsorted shit into the sorting bin before sorting it?
*picks up guitar* so lets sit here, my popularly /pol/luted friends, and let's take a trip down constructive songwriting of what american history would look like had george H. W. bush never made it into office.
*strums a G chord, a C chord, an A chord, and a D chord*
>mfw the same people who are claiming voter fraud in the scottish election are the same people who claim the crimean vote was clean
>dude look at every rigged election ever. Crimea separation vote was like 93% yes
That's because Russia wanted to make it look like almost all Crimeans wanted independence. If the goal was just to win, then they wouldn't make it so obvious to keen observers. By making it 93%, then no one could act like the minority voters were a large enough group to care about. If it was 51%, then everyone would be bitching about the voice of the 49%. Also, even though its obvious that Crimea was rigged, there's no way to prove it since the people that count the vote aren't going to keep the evidence.
If this was rigged, they wouldn't make it way off since, unlike Russia where rigging is expected, people would throw a huge fit in a country like the UK.
>*strums a G chord, a C chord, an A chord, and a D chord*
that's because of the political literacy of the local population. It's harder to get away with a 93% landslide in western europe, the oversight committees would smell bullshit immediately and wouldn't be as easily paid off as the ones in eastern europe.
>Picture of a bunch of stacks of paper on a table, sign hanging off says No
>No indication that every single stack on the table is a No vote other than baseless conjecture
>OH MAN IT IS A NATIONAL CONSPIRACY ITS HAPPENING