So does /pol/ think pedos should have the right to express themselves without hate? They cant control how they were born after all.
Never said they can rape kids, for the record.
Someone's going to call me a "dirty stoner" for this, but:
>millions (possibly tens of millions) of people all over the globe smoke (or imbibe in other ways) Cannabis
>Only a handful of countries where it's legal
>Outing yourself as a user of cannabis in the countries/areas where its not "endangers" ones' self
>People who grow their own personal cannabis and smoke/imbibe it away from others in a private setting aren't interfering with anyone else
But let's totally focus on "pedo rights" first, because we need to secure the rights of awkward 20-somethings to date 14 year olds since they themselves "missed out on prime teen pussy"
Right to express themselves no. It's still not a decent behaviour.
That said, I'd prefer if people wouldn't simply label them as monsters and seeking therapy was seen as the normal thing to do.
>tfw the slippery slope fallacy is not a fallacy at all
No they shouldn't. They are sexually attracted to children. If anything they should be kept in separate communities, thrown in jail, or castrated. You didn't say they can rape kids but you can bet a 7 year old's ass they will. Also starting to think you're either a pedophile a member of the FBI trying to lure out pedophiles.
How can you tell a pedophile anyway? Usually the subject only comes up after a kid got raped/molested or was almost raped/molested or after finding child porn in their possession. What would be the purpose of coming out as a pedophile when most pedophiles are outed as being one, not admitting they are attracted to kids. What rights do they deserve if theyve victimized a child sexually? Should we accept them, let them be around and interact with children like we trust them and only after theyve done something to a child do we look back and say it probably wasnt a good idea to leave a child with a pedophile?
This entire movement is stupid. Who is spearheading this? Gawker?
It was "accepted" anytime before 20th century. I'm not defending the practice but pedo scare is a recent phenomenon. I kind of chuckle when /pol/ glorifies people from pre-christian antiquity when pedantry and homosexuality was rampant.
It's not freedom of speech. With "expressing" I understand making it a normalized behavior like homosexuality is today. I'm not saying they don't have the right to talk, but to see their condition as inusual and in need of help.
Not all muslims are terrorists, not all pedophiles rape kids. But when the benign ones look no different from the malevolent ones, what's more important: The rights of an individual or the safety of a community?
Sounds like sour grapes to me, m80.
>I didn't get to fuck a girl my age when I was 14-17
>but all the girls who were my age were fucking older guys!
>ITS NOT FAIR, I NEVER GOT LAID BY A 15 YEAR OLD GIRL
Why are there so many pedos from Jersey on 4chan?
That's doesn't change the fact that people warned this would happen after gay rights were widely accepted, does it?
And if you want to use the argument that it was ok in the past therefore it should be ok now, I must assume that you also have no objection to bring back slavery among other retarded shit we managed to grow out of.
You want to rape children? Fuck you, I hope you hang by the balls
Everyone has a right to peaceably exist in the strictest sense.
I've never wanted to kill someone who didn't hurt me and mine. Pedos are no exception.
However, we can't as a society just accept that this is "who they are", because it's dangerous. THEY NEED HELP.
>give me a logical reason why paedos shouldn't be given rights
Children cannot give consent to participate in something they do not understand.
>It doesnt matter though,
Yes it does and I hope your ilk will still be vilified, punished, bashed, and persecuted for a long time to come.
>The rights of the individual.
To clarify, that was not a leading question. There is no right answer. It comes down to what your fundamental beliefs are.
To be honest, I'm not sure what my own answer is, though I'm inclined to agree with you.
If anyone comes up to me telling me how cute and pretty my little girl is, and they obviously look like a pedophile, I will personally ensure that their lives are changed forever.
There is no such thing as an "open relationship" with a child.
There is no "consent" with a child.
There is no extra-familial love between a person and a child.
Try this shit in public. I dare you.
How does it feel to be living on the Pedophile capitol of the world? Try your shit outside of your disease ridden hobbit-hole, Francois, see what happens.
I know it's not a choice, and I feel bad that you are born this way BUT that doesn't change the fact that you ARE attracted to kids. If someone is psychotic they take anti-psychotic meds or are locked in an asylum or prison after committing a crime.
First of all, no one is born a pedophile. It is a fetish, just like homosexuality and feetsies or whatever they're called. I'm gay and I know I've been gay all my life but I know I wasn't born like it. It's based on experiences during your development that caused pedophiles to be who they are so it can be fixed.
Second of all, pedophilia is just selfish lust. Don't give me any of this "love" bullshit. I love my kids. I love my boyfriend. I love my friends and my family. Since pedophilia is a fetish, that's ALL IT IS. No matter how much they try to justify themselves the bottom line is it's just pure infatuation.
Now here comes the consent argument. Kids are smart and can make decisions. Does not mean they are good decisions. Children can be manipulated easily. You can offer a child ice cream to suck your dick if you convince them. It's not "just prostitution" it is also manipulation just for SEX. To pleasure YOURSELF. Yes, you can massage a child, etc. but the bottom line it is just for SEXUAL GRATIFICATION.
Fourthly, regardless of whether kids can make rational decisions, Sex will fuck them up mentally and physically. You can argue that sheltering can fuck them up as well and I agree, but I also think that fucking them will fuck them up as well. They will grow up thinking that with sex you can get anything you want. Do you realise how dangerous that is? Not to mention, how the hell can your chubby fat chode fit inside of a really small child's anus? That will hurt them. The pain will also traumatise them.
I would never let my kid ever get near pedophiles. They manipulate kids for their own selfish lust. Disgusting. Why would you destroy the innocent youth with sex? Just wait until they are older.
Lastly, you can argue that pedophilia was ok back in the day ie. Romans. Okay, but you should also note that the life span was shorter back then. And Rome was degenerate anyway that's why they fell.
Fuck you creeps.
>pedophilia was accepted
It's more in vain of innocence and kids as paragon of it. Pedophilia was still considered illegal and was widely shunned.
Pedophiles have the tendency to throw questionable words around to further their claims
So im thinking.
Why not use this to fuck with Tumblr SJW's?
They always go on about trans-homo-as-bullshitsexuality, so why not flag them up on pedosexuality, saying its the same as all the others? They wont know what to do lol, can make SJW's look like sexists.
Officially proposing #OpPedosexualRights
I fully support anyone's right to freely express their opinions and ideas.
However I also support other peoples right to freely disagree, or challenge those same opinions and ideas.
I neither support nor condemn people who are attracted towards children, I merely support everyone's right to freely express their thoughts.
This post contains an appropriate amount of truth.
we need a poc pedolord to infiltrate tumblr and get them to accept pedosexuality
>age of consent in Delaware was 7.
There's a reason this is past tense, dumbass.
>It is not just a fetish, paedophiles do not choose paedophilia
I don't care what you fucking say. it is a fetish. You cannot worm your way around "liking kids".
>Ok im a sadist, better? Fuck you're so stupid
Much better. Now you're on the path to acceptance.
>Stop assuming all paedos are child molesters.
You can't worm yourself out of it, man. Just don't even argue. There is no "right" argument for your situation.
No no, I think he's on to something. It might help invalidate and alienate SJW's from the mainstream.
If you're not a child molester and you're a pedophile you're either a ticking time bomb of a priest or some guy jacking it to Boku all day
What is it with you guys from DemocraticUnderground?
You all use such puerile and childish insults, and you all end up typing things out to make yourselves come off as meth-addled liberals or rage-filled low-IQ subhumans who never properly learned english.
I know meth and liberals (especially gays) go hand-in-hand, but come on
I argued with other pedo shill yesterday, and he, like you, likes to put historic things out of their context
The turth about tour nitpicked fact about that city is most likely had such low age of consent because marriage between a young girl and an older man, predominantly for money, was something that had continued for centuries. Also, prostitution was a problem back then, but the child prostitutes were most likely ophans, children of whores, or poor children making money for their parents.
Pedophilia was still shunned by civilizaion.
We warned you. We told you time and time again, "First they will legalize/normalize faggotry, next it will be pedophilia. It is a slippery slope". What did all you retards say? "Oh no that will never happen. You conservatives are just hate filled bigots. Slippery slope is a fallacy. blah blah blah"
Surprise! Here we are. Who could have possibly foreseen this?
I will give you some credit for being logically consistent. There is no logical way to support homosexuality without also supporting pedophilia. Now, there are many people who support homosexuality and oppose pedophilia but these people do not have a well thought out position. Basically they support homosexuality because they are told it is "cool" and oppose pedophilia because they are told it is "bad". These people are unthinking sheep. But if we actually look at the logical argument for homosexuality: "Homosexuality is an inborn sexual orientation that the person has no control over. Therefore we should tolerate and even embrace this person."; you can see that this argument can just as easily be applied to pedophiles.
Should have listened to us, now we're all doomed.
Let's say pedophilia is accepted. What then? What parent in their right mind would let their child have a relationship with another adult? Where do you draw the line for a parent to exercise their authority over their child?
Let's say the child decides to get with an adult AGAINST the parent's will, and then ends up with massive internal bleeding as a result of intercourse. Who do you blame? Do you blame the child for making the choice to have sex? Do you blame the person who did the penetrating? It sounds like it would remove almost any responsibility the parent should have over the child, because the child has the choice to do what they want.
Fucking Christ you guys, there's enough assburn here to provide consistent heating for a large warehouse.
How about everyone turn it down a few notches?
Pedos: I don't want to rape children, I just don't want to be treated like a leper. I was born this way along with faggots and trans people, why can't I be accepted too?
Person with a child: Fuck off and die you goddamn rapist STAY AWAY FROM MY CHILDREN
I could argue with this, since religions is abating, society's outlook on people is changing.
Homosexuality is good as long as the two persons are of age and are taken responsibility for their actions.
With children, you can't do that. There will be always an outlook on them as incapable of making judgment of their own, so sexual molestation will always be seen as a predatory urge derived from sexual frustration. Civilized world, for the better good of all, doesn't want to let their children be groomed and want them to be well acquited for the functioning society.
Pedophiles literally can't argue with this, against our choice to punish pedophilia for the better social welfare of all.
A person with a particular mental disorder is not automatically immoral.
Seriously, you're as bad as a feminist saying all men are rapist because men statistically rape more than women.
You would not be prepared for the national backlash of that.
>Where do you draw the line for a parent to exercise their authority over their child?
At the age of 18 the child is an adult. At the age of 16, the child has jurisdiction over their own body.
>Lying on the internet
>So does /pol/ think necrophiles should have the right to express themselves without hate? They cant control how they were born after all.
>They're not hurting anyone you guys!
>age of consent in Delaware was 7.
I live in Delaware and it's always been a backwards shithole. So what? Just because some random unimportant place just happened to be pedos does not mean it's right.
Let children be children. Let them go on adventures and play and use their creativity and naïveté when they have it. Don't taint it with sex. Sex is just for reproduction. Even as a homosexual I know this. I know it is unnatural but I do it because I know the consequences. Do you think kids should drink alcohol too? Because not only is the part of their brain that understands consequences underdeveloped but that will DAMAGE the brain as well. Just like fucking a kid. Fetish, mental illness, whatever you want to call it - why should we enable mental illness? We can't enable every mental illness. They enabled homosexuality because they are mature. You don't eat an apple that is unripe.
Ok just because you won't fuck a child doesn't hide the fact that you are a fucking creep and if you get near any child you will be castrated. And I'm not even a sadist. It is for good of humanity.
>report him until he fucks off
Yeah try to censor me you fucking cunt. Nice argument. You sick fuck.
>There will be always an outlook on them as incapable of making judgment of their own, so sexual molestation will always be seen as a predatory urge derived from sexual frustration
There are a ton of countries where there is no age of consent, even more countries where it's as low as 9-12.
I know a lot of Americans would also have a problem with the age of consent in countries like Spain (where it's 13 if I remember correctly).
Is 13 too young?
Victorian age was religious, and there is no clear statement on what age should a girl be to be fir to marry. Homosexuality was shunned, but that doesn't mean pedophilia wasn't shunned also, there was just a turned back on the problem of prostitution. Still, when the view on pedophilia did appear, it wasn't in a bright light.
A perfectly logical person can see that you've actually made a reasonable argument for necrophiliacs being able to be public without being killed. Why should we mob and threaten someone for something THEY CANNOT CONTROL? Sure, nobody wants their child to be molested, or they corpse to be raped, but I guarantee a small majority of pedos and necros actually do these things.
Please seek help for your illness.
Your perversion is not healthy.
Before you ruin a child's life.
You compare sexual molestation with photo taking?
He never expressed the love for her sexually, actually expressed indignation from about the few letter considering him doing just that. I agree that his fascination with young girls could bring strong implications, but whether or not it was true is still left in ambiguity.
>only one person as an example
Personally I think the deep-seeded hatred for pedophiles is what leads to more problems than the pedophiles themselves. A lot of the way society handles them are counterproductive to actually solving any problems.
A perfect example is an archaic law in the US that prevents them from even seeking psychiatric help. Quite a few pedophiles see it as what it is, not a sexual orientation but a brain disorder. These pedos can't even seek help because if they do, the doctors they divulge this information to have the ability to wave confidentiality and report them.
Another stupid activity is CP purging. While I think we can all agree fucking children is not okay, I personally don't consider a pedophile using pictures to relieve their impulses to be a bad thing. After the photos are taken, do they further harm the children? No, not really. I'd much rather have pedophiles beating it to decade old pictures than actually offending.
Okay, so what then? Are you advocating that paedophiles be treated normally? Because paedophilia is NOT NORMAL. Neither is being gay and I KNOW THAT. I think it is a mental illness but do I want help? No. I like having sex with guys because it is my fetish. What do you want? To just sit in your room and masturbate to child porn? Children that have been unconsentually/not understandingly been put in sexual situations that you get off on? Do you like shota? If so that's whatever but I have a feeling that you would get tired and want the real thing. Like a gateway.
Do you expect anyone to let you near their kids?
It's better for you to just be shunned from society like the way it should be. Unless you take action and try to cure yourself from your immorality. I don't ask people to accept me I just want my privacy. But you are trying to make people accept and enable your disgusting sexual fantasies.
By what you are saying, everyone in Victorian age were pedophiles because they held young kids admirable, mostly for the popular belief of their innocence.
You are putting historical things out of context.
>contributed to academia considerable
Not really. Though I agree with that his writings were good.
"Right to express themselves" meaning?
No, not express their sexuality. Like kleptomaniacs or pyromaniacs their actions are illegal because they have victims.
But they should be able to talk about the loss that it is not being able to have the relationships they want.
Heck, I would admire a pedo that could refrain from pedoing.
The main difference between pedos and your everyday run of the mill homo-degenerate? Homos can act out their fantasies without hurting anyone, and in fact it is a consensual act. A pedo acting out his/her fantasies ultimately leads to long-lasting damage. I've seen it happen in my family when pedos raped me, my sister and my brother. They should all kill themselves. I fucking hate them.
The outlook on small girls can change with values that the person has, and while I believe kids could be taken as sexually attractive, for the better of all, there will be held a belief that attraction to little girl is improper and thus the attraction will be strongly diminished.
Attracted to her, might be so, but sexually, it's left ambiguous and should not be used to further any argument for pedophilia. Reminder, pedophilia is mainly considered as a sexual attraction to young kids.
It was some dude who stalked me (I wasn't aware of this), and eventually convinced me that my walk home from 2nd grade (my parent's house was 6 blocks away, which seemed like miles to me) was too long, and that he could give me a ride. It happened in his car. He was never caught. You should castrate yourself, since eventually, one day, you may act out your sick desire to hurt others.
But in all groups of people there are always the ones who act on their sexual impulses. Photos won't be enough for them. Having it accepted will make more and more pedophiles come out and try the real thing because "it's okay now".
Also, it's not just a nude child. When I was in Germany, little kids ran around nude in the pool. But child porn also includes children in sexual situations like giving a blowjob, etc. I don't even want to think about it but also a kid might find his/her photo going around the internet and it might ruin their life later on.
Also, pedophiles will have babies just to have sex with them and groom them into sex toys. Disgusting. And what will happen when the child becomes mature? Do they just abandon the child?
This cultural marxism bullshit reminds me of the Brave New World novel, with sex becoming a recreational activity encouraged since childhood and with no commitment involved whatsoever. Soon children will become a commodity now that heterosexuality and family are destroyed, it's happening.
It's funny when you think that the guy that wrote this book though that marxism would protect us from this totalitarian dystopia.
You are implying uncertain things, and I already told you why the fascination with young girls was pardonable in the Victorian age. There was also people who dissented with Dogson about and questioned him for his passion on making photos of the girl(Laura or what's her name), so it can work as an argument that pedophilia was shunned and that Carroll, while being able to write, was still looked upon precariously by many. Still, he didn't mention anything about being sexually attracted with her.
Please refrain from using him as a stable argument.
Fucking liar. You are a bad person if you want to legalize CP, since I KNOW you enjoy watching a child being harmed, abused, raped and humiliated by having his/her worst moment in life video-taped so disgusting freaks like you can watch it.
Fuck you and people like you. Kids are awesome and playing with kids is fun as fuck, but since I'm a man, I can't do it for fear of being seen as a pedo. I can't even bring myself to look at a child without fear of accusation. I just want to play with action figures and coloring books without being seen as a fucking pedo.
but what happens when your murderous tendencies are suppressed by popular movements and endless media indoctrination that kid fucking is le kewl so trendy so much that any hostility toward pedos will become "hate" and "bigotry" and you'll risk career suicide for making fun of your co-worker brining his qt3.14 9 year old girlfriend to the christmas party?
You're definitely right on your first point, but that applies just as you said, to "all groups". Including normal heterosexual adults. Sometimes pornography isn't enough for them, and the weak minded rape.
My point was more to make the point that this is a disorder. One modern medicine/psychology actually knows very little about. Yet progress can't be made to reverse damage or treat people suffering from it because of the blind fury of those around them. People who think it's just an orientation like homosexuality are ignorant of studies such as those that proved that the brains of pedophiles have significantly less white matter than those of healthy functioning adults. White matter is essentially the connections that allow different parts of the brain to communicate with one another, and when you lack a moderate to large percentage of it the brain thinks in very broken ways.
I'll go ahead and comment on the sexual photos, but not in depth. I was actually fully referring to them, simply nude or otherwise. Whether or not the child grows up and finds them is irrelevant, the harm has already been done and the photo isn't going to continue to molest children. I'll say it again, I'd much rather have pedophiles jerking off than actually going out and offending.
I don't give a shit about my feelings I give a shit about abusing and molesting kids just so you can get your rocks off? And I'm not clicking that link, NSA be all over my ass like you on a 6 year old.
I like the way you think
Imagine if normal porn was illegal. People wouldn't want the same pictures and the same videos so they will create new consent which will lead to more sex abuse.
And even so, the abuse of children in the pictures/videos should be accepted? No way. It should stay off the internet. Don't enable pedophiles. They need to see a psychiatrist, become an hero or go to a gulag camp in Norilsk and stay away from everyone else especially people's CHILDREN.
I'm not a pedo but when 16 year old girls on omegle are thirsty as all hell and you need to end the convo after they tell you their age, it's annoying as fuck.
"But she came on to me" is a stupid defense if you're caught with a 12 year old but if you're caught with a 16 year old it's probably the honest to god truth.
>It was awesome, I wasnt abused myself or anything. That myth has no statistical backing to it.
bullshit, pretty much everything regarding someone's personality can be traced back to their childhood.
"DSM-5 did not err in referring to Pedophilia as a sexual orientation.
In the face of significant criticism of its inclusion in the DSM-5, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) has stated its intention to remove the term Pedophilic Sexual Orientation from the diagnostic manual.2 Removing that term in response to public criticism would be a mistake. Experiencing ongoing sexual attractions to prepubescent children is, in essence, a form of sexual orientation, and acknowledging that reality can help to distinguish the mental makeup that is inherent to Pedophilia, from acts of child sexual abuse."
"Paedophiles are a sexual minority too, and no one can 'reserve' phrases for their exclusive use."
This is entirely false. How many family's have you come across that fit the standard mould of 2 parents, 3 kids yet ONE of the kids is a fuckup. Say just one is into drugs, may be a pedo/furry/other kind of degenerate, dresses like a dipshit etc.
That applies to a majority of the families I've met, there's always one weirdo in the bunch regardless of the parents raising them all essentially the same exact way.
Ultimately you make your own decisions and form your own personality. While it can be influenced by outside sources, that's not at all what makes you you. One person could be abused as a child and grow up angry, strong and combative, while another may go through the same thing and be overly timid.
>watching a child being harmed, abused, raped and humiliated
>implying all CP is girls getting abused and harmed
>implying consensual sexual activity is the worst thing that can happen to a person
The best is where the girl's enjoying it.
Then we would finally screen for pedophiles once they reach the age of 18, and if they're found to be a pedophile, we kill them. Also, you would rape then murder a child wouldn't you? You are an abomination.
Exactly. The slippery slope is based on the notion that if you give a man an inch he'll take the yard, if you give him a yard he'll take the mile. And we are watching it all unfold before our eyes.
If you would say that NOW
You are implying he was a pedophile from your current moral standpoint, not from the moral values that were before.
Alright, tell me this: What are your arguments for accepting pedophilia in a civilized society?
I only hope you are well aware of the standpoint taken by this society on girls ability to make judgments of her own and whether on not she can be groomed bad on your own(emphasis on your) sexual initiation and for your own pleasure.
But let's make one thing clear, that I agree upon that young girls derive pleasure from sexual activity.
But like >>40585934 said
>...sex becoming a recreational activity encouraged since childhood and with no commitment involved whatsoever. Soon children will become a commodity now that heterosexuality and family are destroyed
Pedophilia laws 'don't make sense'
A lot of our society's legal approaches to pedophilia "really don't make sense," according to Margo Kaplan, an assistant professor at the Rutgers School of Law in Camden.
She carefully spelled out her provocative case in a Sunday op-ed piece in the New York Times, because "it’s an area that nobody has written very much about in the legal realm," she explained by phone this morning.
Misconceptions not only hurt those afflicted with a mental disorder, but lead to missed opportunities to reduce child abuse, argues Kaplan, who specializes in health and sexuality law.
Instead, she said of pedophilies, "they’re one of the last people on the planet that it’s OK to genuinely hate."
It's important to distinguish between pedophilia -- being sexually attracted to prepubscent children as an adult or older teenager -- and crimes involving molesting children.
"One can live with pedophilia and not act on it," Kaplan wrote in the Times. "Sites like Virtuous Pedophiles provide support for pedophiles who do not molest children and believe that sex with children is wrong."
>raising them all essentially the same exact way.
nope, something different was done with the kid
>Ultimately you make your own decisions and form your own personality. While it can be influenced by outside sources, that's not at all what makes you you. One person could be abused as a child and grow up angry, strong and combative, while another may go through the same thing and be overly timid.
true which is why our friend sheikh al britani here can just stop being a pedophile anytime he wants.
>there's literally no difference between women and children!
You know something is a taboo when you can't discuss it freely.
and in some ways, homosexuality
Proceed anon, you are in the court of the mad and mentally less gifted, but I applaud your attempt for discussion.
CP is not legal as it will go against social order that is based on the good of everyone.
I agree that AOC should be 13-14. It's about average age of girl becoming fit to procreate, yet it could be still argued about her mental capacity.
At the end of things, the civilized majority is the judge of all, and pedophiles don't understand that they are also basing the acceptance of the approval of majority, but arguments are already made why this civilized majority won't make age consent so low. There are also many pedophiles who are self centered hypocritical egoists and hold their opinions above the unity of majority.
My advice: read Stirner and fuck children freely as long as you keep it covert and keep civilized social order of everyone.
Look everyone, an English Martin Luther King Jr. I guess he Had a Dream about pedophilia. I stand by my justifiable assertion that pedophiles should either have their balls lopped off and/or die at the hands of the State. You harm a child? You die. Simple as that.
As long as they don't act on it it's fine, but we should not be enabling pedophilia by allowing CP to exist, even though it will always be there unfortunately. No need for psychiatry. Just a bullet to the brain
Next will be bestiality and then necrophilia :^)
Funny how half of this thread in a board that is supposed to be a bastion of free speech and individuals who are well versed in debating skills throws ad hominems so easily when something rubs them off the wrong way
You idiot, I didn't say I approve of fucking children. I said that to make clear that I don't hold anything to be good or bad, just trying to achieve social harmony for the well-being of everyone, which, again, doesn't involve fucking children. I have no arm to reach into those who do that from my knowledge but still keep social order.
Wait, you are getting me confused.
You said you approve porn, then you say you don't want that. You understand that wanting porn is wanting for people to derive sexual pleasure from then, and for you to derive sexual pleasure from them, agreeing them to be used by people for your sexual pleasure.
Your logic seems to be convoluted there.
I think you are a pedophile but are you a pedosexual? I think pedophile just means liking children. Just like "homophobia" just means fear of the same.
People use the world "pedophile" to mean having sex with children. It's going to mean that no matter what. If you just like children that's fine. I like children too. I care if a child dies in a plane crash. My boyfriend investigates plane crashes and sees that all the time and it traumatizes him so I agree kids shouldn't die.
But the thing is - do you want to have sex with a child? If you could?
There's those one videos those girls who used to work for a certain "modeling" company put out. Wasn't really CP but the one girl's dad did get arrested for running it. Closest thing I can think of.
>I think pedophile just means liking children.
So do you defend pedophiles that do have sex with children? Do you watch real child porn? What misconceptions do you want to clear about pedophiles? What is it you want people to know? This thread is going to die soon...
How is attraction to the same sex different?
They're either both illnesses, or neither are.
Consent to a hypothetical sexual act has nothing to do with attraction to a hypothetical individual.
That's not how illness works, we define what illness is, and generally speaking it must cause harm to be considered an illness.
you are right though, a pedophile can't help being a pedophile any more than a gay man can help being gay or a straight man can help being straight
>As long as they don't act on it it's fine
Are you going to let them teach/coach/mentor your kids knowing they "won't act on it"?
It's not tho. Being a poofta means sex between 2 consenting adults. Since children don't have the sexual maturity to legally consent how can the two be the same?
>They can't. Having sex with someone under the age of consent is illegal because no matter how mature a child/teen may appear they do not have the capability to make a consensual decision about sex.
This guy gets it - >>40584950
Final solution? Physical castration. It's the only "nuke 'em from orbit" way to be sure.
I was in a relationship with a 19 year old when I was 13. We are still dating 6 years later. Did it make me a total nymphomaniac? No, I was already sort of sexual at that age (not with boys, but by myself I would masturbate and such.) & we didn't really start having intercourse until I was older. Most of the sexual things we did were softcore. You can ask whatever you'd like, I have 1st hand experience.
I was never really attracted to people my age from age 12-17, so I am not attracted to them now. I would not date anyone under the age of 18.
My boyfriend IS a pedo, still- he's never acted on raping or anything but sometimes he faps to russian pornstars that look 7, or pics of me when I was younger.
>they chose to seek help by a Psychiatrist.
>Final solution? Physical castration. It's the only "nuke 'em from orbit" way to be sure.
Ok then "known and or convicted paedos"
>Supposing I'm not the sober poof who doesn't go about raping guys cause their drunk. You're actually invalidating your own argument.
Psych - "Wah, wah wah, muh feelings". There there, take some pills. Tada you're all better now.
>Fuck this I'm not taking these pills. Now come here little boy and help me rub this.
Physical castration -
Literally physically incapable of having penetrative sex with a minor.
The leftist/anti-pedo/baiting shitposts in this thread are so obnoxious
>calm rational arguments
>mindlessly violent chimpout posts
Every single thread.
Its good to see the nigger side of the debate getting smaller and smaller each thread. Pedo acceptance is inevitable.
No. He helped me way more than he hurt me. I was very vulnerable and he could have done way worse. I had no friends when I met him, and he helped me through school and stuff like that. Sex wasn't everything. It was really just a normal relationship. He didn't even start fingering me until 8 months into the relationship when i was 14. He waited until I was ready to do things, but he was very, very persuasive. I knew he wasn't trying to hurt me.
Rhetorical question detected.
You obviously don't think its even physically possible for him to have not taken advantage of her simply because she's younger, so when she says "no of course not" you're immediately going to jump to the conclusion that her feelings are invalid and she must have been groomed for it.
Homosexuality is different to them, they perceive it differently, similarly to how a number of people on /pol/ perceive it
They perceive homosexuality as pedophiles looking to indoctrinate children, willfully spread disease, eat da poopoo, etc.
which is true for some gay people i'm sure, mental instability doesn't discriminate.
in short it's all just words
No I was easily manipulated, but I wasn't THAT stupid. I knew what the intentions of the other boys were- there were boys my age that tried to have sex with me because I was simply an easy target.
By persuasive I mean he would try to convince me to do things, but he wouldn't force me into things I didn't want to do.
The thing is, the argument against that kind of age gap is the power differential.
But lately I've kind of realized that there's a huge power differential even in relationships where the guy and the girl are the same age.
> I need #psychopathsrights because psychopath are endangered just by showing their faces
Don't give a fuck about you pedos as long as you keep fapping to loli shit in your basement but plz don't try to act like you're normal people
He always told me "this will get normal as soon as you're out of school, the only reason why it's weird is because of the age levels in school". So once I graduated it really wasn't all that weird and I could tell my family. Before? It seemed really weird to me even.
>No I was easily manipulated
Posted less than 20 sec after you.
Still not convinced that she was easily manipulated?
>He always told me "this will get normal as soon as you're out of school, the only reason why it's weird is because of the age levels in school". So once I graduated it really wasn't all that weird and I could tell my family. Before? It seemed really weird to me even.
Fuck off paedo/paedo accepter.
>the argument against that kind of age gap is the power differential.
That argument's always been really stupid. In no relationship is power really balanced and the healthiest romantic relationships are ones in which the man is firmly in control or there is at least the illusion that he's solidly in control of everything. >>40587689
That's a really sweet story. How did you meet him?
Yeah, he was always in control of me. He made sure I took care of myself every day- ate breakfast, did my schoolwork, came home and studied then he'd ask what happened and school and let me cry with him. Remember, I was 13 and he was 19 so we usually did it over Skype and met up on the weekends to hang out in person.
We met in a bookstore as cliche as that sounds, I dropped a big heavy book on his foot and instantly started being a retard, going "oh my god sir im so sorry, im sorry im sorry!" but it didn't hurt him at all and he ended up paying for that book. After that I ended up going to that bookstore every saturday hoping to see him there and he always was there to chat up about the books I'd been reading, then we exchanged our online info. It was a friendship before it became a relationship, but he took care of me before it was a relatonship if that makes sense
Jesus Christ you are the most disgustingly retarded poster in this thread
I literally said children are easily manipulated in the post that you fucking quoted you unbelievable dipshit.
This is the exact type of blithering retard that all anti-pedos are folks.
The only solace I draw from seeing these paedo acceptance threads is knowing exactly what is waiting for these cunts when they are eventually caught and imprisoned.
Much like their predatory actions towards children they often find that there are people in prison who like to manipulate and take liberties without consent.
>Truly it is a joy to behold.
>no other scenario is physically possible
wasn't you trying to suggest that there may be an alternative to a child being manipulated?
I'm having trouble understanding why you keep angrily discounting your own arguments whilst trying to claim that you are so "calm and rational".
I think they should be able to say they are pedo without people trying to kill them.
I don't think they should be able to fuck kids though. Dog fuckers are next in line for the liberal acceptance push anyways.
Yes, they actually do choose to be oppressed.
That's why lazy blacks in the hood will always be lazy blacks in the hood and women will always pretend life is hard. Oppression pays.
There are alternatives you illiterate fuckstain.
God its beautiful when worthless animals like you try to post. Every single word you type does a service to pedos.
All you have is your completely impotent revenge fantasies that will never happen.
yes. we are both only seeing each other like any other relationship. he's not a COMPLETE pedo, he doesn't molest children he's just attracted to them. i am the youngest that he'd ever been with and we're both loyal to each other. we've been speaking about marriage
Actually; seen it happen first hand.
>I'm sure you'll find out eventually.
Can't say I still don't think it's incredibly fucked up but I hope it all works out for you in the long run. I'd be wary tho - if his peccadillo is kids then as you get older you'll only ever be 2nd.
Maybe you need to ask yourself hypothetically how comfortable you'd be in say 13 years time when you've had kids with him, leaving him alone with your daughter?
>woman going to college
Well, if he's willing to put out the money for you to play school that's his problem. You really should be married and reproducing though, since that is what women are made for.
Haha, I've talked to him about it. He doesn't fantasize about having kids then fucking them, he thinks about "getting horny because she reminds me of you when you were younger, then fucking you really hard" if that makes sense. I'm not worried, my wellbeing was always first and sex was second. I know that he would NEVER do anything unsolicited to anyone and he'd never want to have sex with his daughter.
For your sake I genuinely hope so.
Cheers! Are you a psych? Can I talk to you about muh feelings? I've got a soul to unburden dude.
Thanks for the helpful, constructive and proactive suggestion tho. ;]
We should start pushing a new acronym. Instead of LGBT let's use LGBTP. Streamline it.
And might i suggest we throw in bestiality while we're at it.
I understand. I have an 8 year old who had an "Encounter" with a 9 year old in school. When I asked the Principle if this kid a history of this I was told that they could not give me the info. My child no longer goes to that school. I have no idea if this new "movement" will gain steam, but if they are out in the open, I will have a better idea of who to keep my children away from (the registered sex offenders are not the only pedos out there).
I think that around the age of 13, it is okay, as long as he isn't above the age 19.
That's an interesting story, and It's nice that you are still together.
Also, it's admirable that you guys abstained until you were older; I'm sure that your boyfriend is a great guy
what about the millennial kids who fap to cartoons and want anime to be real? might as well go ahead and include them too. don't know what the name for that is though...
>If anyone comes up to me telling me how cute and pretty my little girl is, and they obviously look like a pedophile
What will you do, exactly, if some unknown male tells you how cute and pretty your little girl is?
NOW THAT'S JUST NOT FUCKING ON - YOU'RE IMPLYING GANG-RAPE HERE MAN.
Not cool dude, not cool.
>be here when thread was started
>Jersey fags claiming "muh pedosexual"
>one accidentally slips up and mentions personal info
>come back 2 hours later
>all posts are deleted
mods pls let us have fun
Very good point - as well you could have parents who allow ___ to marry ____ just poison the older lover, get insurance money and move on back home. Let's just go back three years ago when this type of thing was not really discussed.
Spotted him behaving completely normally in the Britpol thread. Asked him about his noncery. he Posted pro-paedo picture in response. Next thing..... Boom...all his posts vanished.
Hey thanks. I'm glad that I lucked out and found him rather than some guy that lured me out to his van, or some 13 year old who would do anything to get his dick sucked.
It kind of sucks though, I didn't really have relationships with boys my age and I think I missed out on that. But honestly, I wouldn't change a thing. There's definitely a difference between an assaulter and a pedophile even though anything we did WAS legally rape.
The more and more I look at this all, you are right. I watched Caligula a few years back and the comparison of Rome to the US is staggering. We can sit here and bitch, moan and complain, but they will keep making videos like the one where Shia is dancing with little girl and pass it off as art. I have seen a few documentaries and Washington is full of Pedos in my opinion - yet, anonymous will not go after them..........
Two words - Mark Foley.
>he thinks about "getting horny because she reminds me of you when you were younger, then fucking you really hard" if that makes sense.
No it doesn't make sense. He's actually telling you he'll fantasise/become aroused about fucking your daughter whilst he fucks you as a "second best" and you're happy/comfortable with that?
>tfw your tween/teen daughter replaces a thirtysomething you in your marital bed.
to be fair: if people can over-whine about homosexuality not being a choice, then we should be fair and do the same about pedophilia - you're born with it.
Or else tell the truth about homosexuality and say how it's a mental disorder.
To tell the truth i think pedophilia is less of a disorder than homosexuality because it can still exist within two genders.
>We should start pushing a new acronym. Instead of LGBT let's use LGBTP. Streamline it.
>And might i suggest we throw in bestiality while we're at it.
The more I think about it, the more I like my idea. Everyone should start throwing the "P" on the end and wait for someone to ask about it. Then just casually explain that pedophilia isn't a choice, it's a sexual orientation you're born with. What, would they CHOOSE to be pedos if they could help it??
Don't even make the connection to homosexuality. The pieces will fall into place.
>sounds like sour grapes
First off you are so retarded you don't even understand what that means. But yes it is clearly jealousy and I don't think he ever tried to make it seem otherwise...
Fucking piece of shit stoners man...
>Lastly, you can argue that pedophilia was ok back in the day ie. Romans.
Try 1800 British empire
>Okay, but you should also note that the life span was shorter back then.
But that's wrong you retard
If you are sexually attracted to a being that is *NOT PHYSICALLY ABLE* to reproduce, that is not broadcasting the pheremones/hormones which let others of their species know they are ready to mate... then *YOU are BROKEN*
Broken things should not be treated as functional.
An aberration should not be treated by the same set of rules as the mean.
That is how people get hurt and things get broken.
That is why pedophiles don't need special treatment and the "right" to HARM children.
Don;t bother trying to tell me how molesting a kid doesn't hurt them. If I could find you and knew you were serious i would most certainly hurt you.
Those who deviate from the BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL laws of nature, not to say the most primitive social contracts of humanity in general don;t deserve "human rights" (a fallacy in and of itself, but that's a whole other thread).
You deserve a quick excision from society like the monsterous cancer you are. Be glad the law doesn't allow me and the many just like me to act as a surgeon in that respect. That's all the "rights" you should ever hope for you sick fucks.
> the age of consent was raised to 16 in 1885.
Acquainted as you are with our history. You will know this was because of social reform. A deliberate move away from child prostitution and exploitation. The notion of "childhood" and innocence as something to be protected was not enshrined in law before then.
On child sexuality not being harmful
Rind, Tromovitch, Bauserman:
Food for thought
On pathologizing and discriminating against pedophiles
On legalizing child pornography
Food for thought
>If you are sexually attracted to a being that is *NOT PHYSICALLY ABLE* to ...yadda yadda no pheromones yadda yadda die in a fire freak
masturbation defeats this - no subject present and aroused by thoughts
erotic literature and pornography defeats this - no subject present and aroused by an object
and some people can actually tell the difference between fantasy and reality and behave accordingly; they are the "normal" people you never hear about until someone drags their kink into public view
Molesting children does affect them, but the victim complex being forced upon you, the adults getting outraged for reasons you don't fully understand, that affects them too. Not saying the cure's worse than the disease, but children are very impressionable and how the concsious mind functions isn't necessarily logical.
I don't think anybody's saying you should go ahead and have relations with a young child, but that the authority-abusing molester shouldn't be on the same threat level as the lolikon hikkomori.
Still would outright murder anyone who tried to have sex with my children. 1/10 bait because I responded to this utter crap.
I was arrested for posession of child pornography when an '18' year old i was trading nudes with on tinder turned out to be 16. I was 22 at the time.
I would NEVER do anything with an underaged girl knowingly. It makes my fucking guts churn thinking someone could think im an actual pedo. Ruined my fucking life. I got the charge changed from CP to something else, but the damage was already done.
I was in the local paper, where i was raked through the coals and called a pedo
Nobody fucking thinks this.
This is the exact kind of societal erosion that institutional Marxism has brought around, and this is why most people on this board are opposed to concepts like LGBT rights.
How the fuck is this relevant? Is smoking weed that important to your identity that you have to parade it around? If your defining feature as a human being is smoking pot, then you're a pathetic waste of life.
The Paedofinder General is a real phenomena.
Just see it in this thread.
Bask in its insecurities lashing out on others.
An excuse to bully for those with low self esteem and self anxiety.
Its Cognitive Dissonance. They are told all their lives Pot is bad then suddenly discover its not so bad. Causes all sorts of personality problems. The mind doesn't like holding conflicting beliefs.
Or righteous anger at sick perverted deviants hidden in society. Pedo should be rotted out and executed. Some things must not be acceptable.
No. And i am not a sex offender, since i pled my case that i believed she was 18 and had evidence to back it up.
Dont worry though, i still caught a lesser felony and did 3 months jail and currently on 3 years probation
There is literally nothing wrong with pedophilia. Anyone who is against pedophilia is a feminist
That doesn't exist.
There's no reason to ever be angry. As soon as you become angry, your stance becomes null.
Anger is the reason people find solace in abusing others. A temporary high to distract you from the hate you hold for yourself.
Real rightwingers are pro-pedo
The Left hates pedo because of feminism and "muh rape culture"
You choose to be angry. The only person that can make you angry is yourself. The only person taht can stop you from being angry is yourself. Others are not responsible for your emotions. They do not control you. You control you.