ISIS posted this video today of Russian intelligence agents that were captured by ISIS
The second agent appears to blink in Morse code
The FSB probably have it translated by now but I want the translation.
Also the agents are executed by a 10 year old Kazakh trap but that isn't important now
So you want us to translate it because you're too lazy? I bet you were the fat kid in high school who always made the geeks do his homework.
Could you at least provide a link to the full video?
It's cut randomly throughout the video, but the first 25 seconds of the second interview basically says these letters and number (someone Russian(??) can translate I guess):
S E T K A 6 4 S H A M S O Y E D I N E N I Y E
>Also the agents are executed by a 10 year old Kazakh trap but that isn't important now
Goddamn, so the man knows he is about to be executed, but uses all he has left to send out one last message.
That's pretty awesome.
Grid connections in sham (sham is Syria Israel Lebanon southern turkey a.k.a the levant)
Networks in sham that are united?
Icelandbro the 25 seconds start exactly where in the vid? I'm going to translate the next part
you got me lolled
Ok, another excuse for me to not go to sleep.
And maybe he is trying to say that the Brigades of Sham ( Al Nusra/Ansar/etc) are planning to unite with the IS. Cause that would be some crucial information and would have devastating results
I can't do this unless the iclander tells me at what point in the video he started the translation.
Also he might be talking about Abu Omar al shishani, he discuses the killing of an Islamic state leader,
Abu Omar is still alive right?
Apparently reddit is also working on a translation
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Had to restart the computer. The translation starts at 3:47 and then, if you ignore bullshit blinks, until 4:12~ he has a long pause. This is where we stopped. Now, until 5:20 he has many bullshit blinks and cuts, but this is it:
A D (?? cut) 4 A M (E/R?) S K E V 1 B (cutcutcut) 2 T U R E K D O M A T O R G O V A T T U R E T S K I J
I hope the Icelander wasn't trolling -____-"
Yes Omar is still alive, and you are probably right 'bout that. The only way to reach Omar Shishani is trough the Russian speaking brigades. However some tabloids wrote Abu Bagdadi, but his lips don't look like they are pronouncing Bagdadi at 4.40
Seriously OP, didn't you learn Morse Code in high school? It's super easy to figure out which language he's blinking his eyelids in and then translate it. We used to do this all the time in Kindergarten, next to the Telephone game and spelling bees.
Certainly sounds like a description of something happening behind the scenes.
Turks being involved wouldn't really be surprising but would be a major blow against the idea that they've got a secular state defending against ISIS.
I am certain the blanked out guy is about Abu Omar al shishani right here
But what would the FSB want with a Georgian?
"soedinenie is a military formation consisting of several units or a number of lower levels, usually of various combat forces and spcial troops."
Network of soldiers in sham?
There were rumors of ISIS having a special forces pic related
There are single numbers and letters between these points, that is certain, but the Belgian guy said "2 Turks", makes me think "1" means something similarly at the "1 B" cuts (B? British), no real letters beyond this point, cuts, and before that is 4 A M (E or R) because who knows how he blinks, skips a letter, or what. AMRSKEV (AMERICA?), AMESKEV (means what?).
My eyes hurt.
perhaps a warning that 2 russian isis are returning to russia via turkey
or perhaps he is telling FSB who ratted him and the other spy out
FSB perhaps has 2 turkish contacts in turkey who help their field agents, who have been compromised.
i like the second one more
This place is normally crawling with Russians, where are they all today?
Caucasus kebabs are typically Russia's business. There's always the possibility that the guy is spouting bullshit that'll appease his captors and throw them off his real objective. There's also the chance that whatever he blinked is code for something and will not mean anything to anyone but FSB.
Network, 64, sham, connection/unite/military formation,hell,2 turks, home, doing business, turkish
I already emailed the FBI about this (the FBI tips thing) they're probably on it right now
Shit they might even be ITT
>mfw Russian agents have big enough balls to transmit intelligence by blinking during their execution video
>why doesnt real life look like the movies
the best evidence that its real is the lack of blood.
everyone expects to see blood from gunshots to the head, so if you were faking it you would want it to look 'real' by having lots of blood.
its simple really though, not all bullets have the composition or energy to rip through the skull, travel through the brain, and blow out another layer of skull taking lots of matter with them.
i've read that small calibre handguns, like 9mms, basically ricohet inside your skull lots of thr time. you will only bleed from the small entry wound, but the bullet has not the force to create a messy exit wound.
A few stupid, or maybe not, details.
1.- What if the winks mark the letters within the spoken words?
2.- What if some combination of eye and throat movement is used to pass other data? What if that's just a nervous tick?
3.- What's with the kid closing his eyes for a long period of time in the vid at some point?
4.- What's with the second alleged FSB agent head movement during the speech?
5.- What's with that specific tactical outfit?
oh wow - another "execution" video that shows absolutely nothing of the sort. just a "shot" being fired by a 10 year old girl (lol), no blood, and the same slow-mo and "fade to black" bullshit we saw in the "beheading" videos.
and i guess we are supposed to believe that "ISIS" or whatever they are called this week didn't spot the Morse code trick, and are historically illiterate and didn't know that the Americans used this same exact trick during Vietnam (captured Americans spelling "t-o-r-t-u-r-e" with blinks of their eyes). and (i believe) during the USS Pueblo incident off of North Korea as well???
in other words, there may very well be a message being communicated here - but it sure the hell ain't a SOOPAR-SEEKRIT message meant for intelligence agencies...
...it's being communicated to regular shmucks like those of us are in this thread
Let's hope... Because I still have a bright future in this God-forgotten-land and don't want to fuck it up
If you guys can translate more from the mors, I can try to translate it to English, but if we don't find anything intresting in 30 min, I'm off to sleep
64 connected networks across the sham
objective compromised by 2 turks (i assume this is something that will make sense to only the FSB, maybe russian affiliates that are feeding intel to the IS and this was a warning to cut ties)
it seems incredibly difficult to be able to listen and speak and at the same time blink other words and terms using morse code no?
It just seems near impossible to be able to do that perfectly. If he was communicating via morse code with his blinks it would make sense to me to account for large errors. That or only count the blinks for when he isn't speaking.
Something I observed:
During his interview I thought that his blinking was just a twitch of his. If you watch until the end of the video before he gets executed that twitch is no longer there.
It is clear to me this is code. It has to be, Anon.
>oh wow - another "execution" video that shows absolutely nothing of the sort
Can I just ask what makes you think they'd stage it?
Clearly they don't give two shits about killing people. Why is it more believable that they're faking executions? Qui bono?
From the reddit thread:
Here is the best I can do:
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I can't tell weather the doubles are dashes or double dots. I interpreted them, as well as the long squints, as dashes. I'll improve this when I get home.
do you seriously believe that this video portrays a real execution?
do you believe the "beheading" videos did, as well?
i believe this is part of a great play being played out through the media... it's part of a "great work" that very few people understand
I don't believe in the beheading videos. Cause that was some Hollywood shit.
But this video is a little different. The way they interview the spies, it's a different style if you ask me.
And to be honest, I really don't know what to believe. I believe in /pol/ :'D
there's no doubt this is code, the problem is that a big chunk of it is totally alien. i'm assuming the gaps will be practically impossible to fill as they're either in a form of code only the FSB can decypher or he fucked up the delivery, i'm gonna go with the first option
Another fucking moron who doesn't know that it takes more than a fucking .40 or 9mm to cause a fucking head to explode; let alone cause instantaneous blood of any significant amount. You're a paranoid, stupid fucking idiot, you know that?
>"wow there's too much blood it looks fake the blood looks fake wtf conspiracy"
>"wow his head didn't even explode there's no blood it looks fake wtf conspiracy"
All I imagine from this is a frustrated ISIS video effects guy grumbling that everybody's a critic.
>do you seriously believe that this video portrays a real execution?
>do you believe the "beheading" videos did, as well?
>i believe this is part of a great play being played out through the media... it's part of a "great work" that very few people understand
Yes, tell it brother. Tell them so they can listen.
The machine you're looking at right now and typing these words on is not a machine at all, it's a biological organism attached like a parasite to your brainstem. We're all controlled! It's the reptile aliens from Sirius! They're making it all up! All the news is faaaaaaake!
Okay, new update for 5:20 until the interview ends at 5:45. This is probably the clearest part although it is cut at one part and I believe any amateur can themselves check this one for mistakes so correct me (especially after the cut):
S T R A D 4 C H I S K
Is the Chechen guy still here?
which video are you referring to, "too much blood" etc.?
i don't recall that being an objection to any of the contested videos.
and i only remember videos with NO. BLOOD. WHATSOEVER. if that seems normal to you, then fine, but perhaps you'd want to rethink how well grounded you are in reality.
I think you have an Americentric perspective though. Something like that might be common knowledge in America but it certainly isn't in the rest of the world. I knew about it but that's only because I waste half my life reading random shit on the internet. 99% of the people here in Australia would have never heard of it, and the percentage would be even lower in the non-English speaking part of the world.
why are people trying to find a clear message in the morse. he could be giving code phrases....think radio during ww2 to partisans
thank you uncle greg for the cake (means, i dont know mission called off)
for all we know he gave as accurate information as he could on location, fellow prisoners, captors, tell my wife.
how do we know it is morse? could be a grid code....letter code....fsb code....
or he has dust in his eyes
>and i only remember videos with NO. BLOOD. WHATSOEVER. if that seems normal to you, then fine, but perhaps you'd want to rethink how well grounded you are in reality.
Have you seen the two decapitations of kneeling women by the cartels?
Straight through both arteries and there's not the two blood gushing torrents you would expect from movies.
In fact it's just two measly little sprinklers going off and on.
The bodies aren't drenched in blood.
It's not a Tarantino scene.
But I guess those were faked too?
How about the famous Chechnyan getting his throat cut? A decent spurt, far more than the girls and then a dribble. It's not much.
You can go on liveleak yourself and watch executions and accidents for hours until you start to get a feel for how much gore happens in reality.
When you can see people with their entire heads smushed out on the street and there's still not a lot of blood, you might reconsider this Hollywood FX reality you're running.
Guy's I took about 40 minutes but I translated it. How do we contact the media about this?
It's either this, or a different iteration I'll post in a second. I majored in linguistics and I had to learn morse code for my ROTC program. Here's the message, someone please email this to news agencies:
не забудьте пить овальный зубец бороны
Guys I got some clues from the vid
The first guy had to stick a USB drive to a computer that the unknown person uses in turkey
Turkey needs to be removed from NATO and their NATO assets repossessed or destroyed.
>I don't believe in the beheading videos. Cause that was some Hollywood shit.
>A camcorder and video production requires Hollywood.
The Beheading videos are real and this is real. IS specifically creates high production videos with questionable content specifically to cause distrust amongst groups who have no idea what they're talking about while confirming the executions to those who do.
perhaps you're right.
and, perhaps, those who scripted the whole incident (and i maintain that this isn't an actual, organic event, but scripted and... fake) have an "Americentric perspective" as well ;)
Now when I look I think that "4" is actually "A L" or "A P" but it could just be noise or he fucked up in between?
S T R A D A L C H I S K
S T R A D A P C H I S K
This is coming from a nation of cowards that commit suicide at the drop of a hat. Don't you have some vile, pathetic porn to jerk off to? You know, since pretty much all the women in Japan are so disgusted with you, they pretty much don't even bother fucking any of you or making kids.
>oh god they canceled Little Underage School Girl Panty Shot! Better slit my wrists in the tub!
Please do so, the sooner the Japanese die off the better. Piss poor genetics in a small gene pool. I'd rather fuck Korean chicks before any of those ugly nips.
but in the "beheading" videos there wasn't even THAT much blood.
i wouldn't necessarily expect a geyser of blood...
...i would, however, expect SOME blood.
i nick myself shaving and get more blood than in all those fake ISIS beheading videos combines
Your own argument makes no sense though. It's easier to use too much blood than none at all. Clearly the ISIS guys are editing around the gore instead of focusing on it. Nobody knows why they do it. This last one was fucking artistic about the shooting of the shooting.
The point is, if you want to fake a beheading you use some animal blood in a bag. It's EASY to do. Teens making their first Hollywood homages fake it better.
How could they go through the trouble of faking a knife going through flesh and just forget the blood? That just makes less sense.
Not sure if it's helpful but Sham has a lot of meanings in arabic:
Al-Sham, endonym of the region bordering the eastern Mediterranean Sea, usually known as the Levant or the region of Syria
Bilad al-Sham the Caliphate province of the same region
ash-Shām, or Sham (الشام), another name for Damascus, the largest city in the region
Jund al-Sham, terrorist group based in Afghanistan meaning "Army of Syria"
Sham el-Nessim, Egyptian holiday marking the beginning of spring
Sham, or Alsahm, the Arabic name for the star Alpha Sagittae
it's not "unrestrained hyperbole," it's a justified and serious, literal comparison.
i - quite literally - see more blood when i nick myself shaving than i saw in all the "ISIS beheading" videos, combined. which is easy to say, because there wasn't a speck of blood in those videos.
oddly enough, your use of that phrase better qualifies as "unrestrained hyperbole" than anything i said in my post
Russian here. Born St. Petersburg, immigrated to America in 1987 with my family.
Served 4 years as translator for U.S. Army.
I watched the video and this is what I made out:
Негры и евреи, являютcя плохие новоcти.
It's a rough translation.
this actually is an interesting question: why DID they omit the blood?
my own take is that TPTB are intentionally creating as much distrust in the media - and, by extension, governments and authority as a whole. think about BBC's actions after the last "Charlie" event in Paris:
i think the "beheading" videos were intentionally DESIGNED to draw questions as to the authenticity of them - hence the obvious switching of the knife, etc
All this does is remind me of my greatest fear from being in afghanistan- that I would somehow be captured and forced to film propaganda before being executed on film.
>i - quite literally - see more blood when i nick myself shaving
No you don't. Quit being, a literal faggot.
Let me also explain something to you about the human body. The human body only pumps blood if the heart is beating and has enough pressure to pump. When you cut off the head the heart tends to stop beating rather quickly because the brain lacking oxygen and perhaps the spinal cord depending on how quick it is cut, can no longer send the commands to the heart. Thus not a lot of blood. Once the blood pressure dips in the body you won't have much blood coming out of a wound unless you hung the body upside down on a meat hook, you're not going to see a whole lot of blood from a quick beheading.
Does anyone have that cartoon with the guy asking someone for 20 bucks and another guy with a gun forcing that guy to give the 20 bucks to him? I saw it on here but can't find it anywhere.
I think they're just being more professional about the propaganda.
Too gory turns even people who are sympathetic off.
They have money, they have experts in every area, things are going to be different than they were when IS were just some nutty jihadists
It is C H I S K 100% I can't see another possibility, but as I've mentioned it is possible that the end is cut and whatever ending was removed from the video.
It's unlikely, but CHISK = ЧИСК could be an acronym for ЧЕЛЯБИНСКАЯ ИНВЕСТИЦИОННО-СТРОИТЕЛЬНАЯ КОМПАНИЯ
which would translate to CHELYABINSK INVESTMENT AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
Same acronym is internationally used for Complex Instruction Set Computer
Post all the letters you have made out so far, I'll try and see whether I can make any sense from it.
>S E T K A
Synonymous to the Levant (approximate historical geographical term referring to a large area in Southwest Asia south of the Taurus Mountains, bounded by the Mediterranean Sea in the west, and in the east, the north Arabian Desert and Mesopotamia from wiki)
Could mean: Union, Joint, Bond (chemistry) or for the military - military formation
2 TUREK = two turks
doma = home
torgovat = trading, trade
turetskij = turkish
STRADAL = suffered, he suffered for ex.
CHISK - should go with stradalchisk, I suppose they mean "someone who suffered" or in this context a martyr would be a good guess.
Can you get more, Icelandic viking?
>All this does is remind me of my greatest fear from being in afghanistan- that I would somehow be captured and forced to film propaganda before being executed on film.
The most pleasant part of being a platoon leader was being issued an M9 and knowing I'd kill myself if necessary and wouldn't have to fumble with a rifle in order to do so.
When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains,
And the women come out to cut up what remains,
Jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
An' go to your Gawd like a soldier.
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
Go, go, go like a soldier,
So-oldier of the Queen!
Did you enjoy sacrificing your life for the best interests of the filthy, conniving kikes in Israel, NOT for our American or British freedoms?
If you walk into a synagogue, do they thank you for a job well done, goy?
>I think they're just being more professional about the propaganda.
>Too gory turns even people who are sympathetic off.
This would be my guess too.
They're getting better at the production of their propaganda, we know they edited a lot of their hostage videos to better suit them being aired on western media (the interviews, the subsequent beheadings) in full.
It's possibly and perhaps truthfully and attempt to walk the line between the dead infidels they want to show for their recruitment and the professional army image they want to project to the casual viewers in the west.
This goes for the propaganda they had their mouthpiece prisoner spout as well. They want to be taken seriously now. They want to be the legitimate Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant so they can start building legitimacy.
Legitimacy is the only way they'll stop an endless war.
I fuck a Jew every night. They're not so bad.
>Thinking I care about the opinions of a NEET who has never seen combat on a polish image board made to worship chinese spoof of neanderthal cave drawing cartoons.
pol, redpill me pls
What are russian spies doing over there and why does this Isis thing concerns them?
Who is fighting ISIS and who are the ''good guys'' in this sub plot of our time?
you are absolutely incorrect.
you are - or rather, MUST - be arguing that if you start to saw a head off, there is no blood that comes out.
after all, you are defending the authenticity of the ISIS "beheading" videos, and that's exactly what happens in those videos...
a knife gets dragged across the neck 9 or 10 times, and no blood comes out.
i will say it once again: i get more than NO blood when i cut myself shaving. which is to say, when i cut myself shaving, BLOOD COMES OUT.
not so in the magical muslim world.
they are also adepts at abrogating the laws of physics - see 9-11
I enjoyed developing valuable life skills and turning my life around from being a no life NEET 4chan faggot into an educated and employed 4chan faggot.
I also spent all the tax dollars you gave me on booze.
Thanks bro, my Russian is not perfect but I'm trying my best
I think they have other cryptic ways of communicating. Yeah they use Morse but the message itself is encrypted for sure. Turk could mean anything from an activist to a politician or civilian ... the word trade could be any verb as well. They're usually given directives of what words to use in case of an emergency. It's the same with radio messages - if you manage to break the code, the message itself doesn't make too much sense because they never talk directly.
Watch the vid
They are gathering Intel on a man whose name is blanked out and sending the Intel back to Russia
We believe it could be Abu Omar al shishani, a Chechen/Georgian field commander of isis
takes a fucking german to figure it out. normal blink, pause, quick blink code ain't binary like we're normally expecting. however seeing the actual performance from this guy, i'd say he's way beyond what we'd expect from FSB if he were trying to communicate. his blinking is way the fuck out there, and i've seen actual nervous people exhibit the same type of behavior.
>I fuck a Jew every night. They're not so bad.
Fuck man, war damaged you that badly?!
The pressure of the knife against the throat along with the brief moment it takes to cut into the first layers of tissue is more than enough time to cut away before you get an actual rush of blood once you cut into the main arteries and veins that are in the neck. Until you get to those you're just cutting capillaries which do not transmit a lot of blood.
>but but but my Hollywood
I am an Afghan combat vet. I have seen shit you wouldn't believe about the human body. Trust me. Most people don't bleed like stuck pigs.
>Well, there you go. I guess if you can't date/attract a normal white woman, go for what you can get.
Implying I don't want my children to become head of the Chosen and rule over all of Goydom.
Alright I found this
A Russian speaker needs to go through the vid and attempt a translation
>That's not what a hyperbole is you uneducated hick
So it is not "the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech" to compare nicking yourself while shaving to a beheading? Are you intentionally dumb?
Cyrillic and Latin have nearly the same Morse code. I doubt it will change much of the translation as the international version of Morse takes Slavic letter-sounds ("ch" for "ч") into account.