4chan, despite recent declines, still remains one of, if not the most influential website on the internet. Memes and jokes that begin here trickle into the remainder of the internet, and the presence of this website has largely defined internet culture.
What has allowed us to endure and prosper so long? Is it a combination of elements? Or is there one outlying characteristic that allows us to accelerate?
ITT; We reflect on 4chan and what lends to its continued influence on the internet
I'll bump with my own opinion:
I think it stems from our constant conflict a midst each other. In an environment of evolution, there needs to be some level of resistance, in order for the 'generation' to grow stronger. We constantly ridicule each other here, and call each other out on our claims.
What does dumblr do? Create huboxes that shelter other users from this growth. They hand hold them, and the conflict from July 4th last year, I feel, kind of lends to the idea of sheltering vs. conflict.
the anonymous style of posting allows constant discussion while the type of posters here makes sure that the discussion remains at an intelligent (compared to the rest of the internet) level.
It's often said that Reddit is where idiots go to act like geniuses, and that 4chan is where geniuses go to act like idiots. I think that is true, but I also feel that there's something special about this Chinese cartoon imageboard, and something special about the regular posters here.
>the days when you could call this newfaggot a new fucking faggot was are long gone
That's hard to pin down. A few years ago I would've said all boards still had the spirit of 4chan in them, but now I'm not too sure.
/co/ isn't love anymore, and is tumblr instead. You will also get banned if you mention the relationship between tumblr and /co/.
Ultimately, I do think the vast majority of boards do still have that spirit of 4chan still in them. Along with that, no board is past the point of redemption, and the this golden age of /pol/ could serve to make 4chan a much better place.
the noxious sensitivity of Reddit keeps it stale and generic more times than not. as a group we are fifty or a thousand times smaller, but the anarchy of this place only a few cab tolerate produces greatness with a select handful
I have no fucking idea how this place has endured in the spotlight of chanology, the fappening, murders, suicides, raids, poll riggings, ect.
In the end I guess it's how harshly newfags are treated. Forced to adapt to the culture in order to have an actual discussion.
If we collectively started fucking with new people that came here with /b/ tier antics (system 32 and stuff) this site could regain some of what has changed.
Well.. Because, believe it or not, it is only true face of the 'modern' sites in existance. The sites really reflects the darker side of humanity which we're reluctantly drawn to.
The simplistic design of the site and the incredible depth, content and shitposting on 4chan is what keeps people here.
The fact that we don't need identification on the site is also a crucial factor. We are willingly to expose more of ourselves than what we'd normally do on say, Twitter, Tumblr, Facebook etc.
I'd say that 4chan is a semi-successful communist society where everyone is an equal, wether how much we call each other faggots, niggers, jews etc.
I just enjoy it for some reason.
Interesting, and I think you're definitely right in the sense of the golden age of /pol/ changing 4chan.
Hopefully the change in website management will not hinder the progress that this board has made/is making though.
>If we collectively started fucking with new people that came here with /b/ tier antics (system 32 and stuff) this site could regain some of what has changed.
just fucking... cringe
he's totally right though. We've kinda replaced actively scaring off people, and instead have a level of banter that's hard to get at first.
if they can't handle the banter they fuck off.
The fact is, over the years 4chan has been alive, it's been extremely easy to use. We have... 64 boards?... And each board holds a topic, with one board holding a "random" topic. They are ranged from auto, to transport, to video games, anime, hentai, politics, paranormal and other things. Within these boards there are threads which hold topics within these topics.
4chan is just easy to use and hasn't change that much since the beginning. The fact that it's stayed the same says something about it.
We have a deep culture, one that has stood the test of time and can be seen all across the internet. I doubt that will change anytime soon, as a lot of us are here forever.
It would be cringe for us to do this stuff, but /b/ is doing it more and more. Since the loss of IDs, new life has been breathed into the corpse of the once crazed beast that /b/ was.
You can see some of that old spirit stir in the twitch raids they conduct, almost some sense of longing to return to the chaos, to return to the roots of what made the board the most terrifying thing in the mainstream internet for some time.
I truly feel that this site's recent changes and publicity have put us at a tipping point, and what the individual boards do, especially /pol/ (we're the most influential board on the site at the moment), will play quite a lot into the fate of 4chan.
The 4chan center of culture used to be /b/, up until 2008 many people would say. Then /v/ was the the main memer on the block, and currently I think its /pol/.
Is it going to go back to /b/? Or maybe /r9k/ will have its chance at the throne?
/pol/ will be King for a while. And it's going to be hard to dethrone him.
Hard to say, /b/ is the original, and there are a lot, (and I mean A LOT) of people who would love to see a restoration of the board. The sentiment to this return to this can easily be seen on the board itself, so there are plenty of people there already who are willing to push forward.
However, r9k, at a glance seems to be less prone to shit posting of threads that fall in line the board culture. They are also less known, which will keep less summer-tier new fags off the board, perhaps to the benefit of it rising as a major point of influence.
Either way, I think with the nomadic SJW hoards still invading eastern Europe (leddit/social media) /pol/ will remain a major force for some time
I know this'll probably come out really cringey, but I actually fucking love this board.
This board, where the likeminded fuckups can gather and banter about to stupidest of shit. Were we can all argue about the Jews, muslims, and gooks; and not be hated for it.
/pol/ is a shit board
But its our God damn shit board
Just like /b/ during it's time as top dog, and /v/ during its time. I'd say it comes with the territory, and we're still in a time on /pol/ where we have a high level of brotherhood and commonality in our values and objectives.
The best boards (to me) were always shit, but they were the good kind of shit that you've come to understand.
enjoy it while it lasts
This is why tumblr produces such inbred abominations. The weak are never culled. They are actually exalted, and eventually overtake the strongest and best. Tumblr is a machine specialized in creating failure.
>thinking anyone can dethrone the King
The ONLY thing that would ever knock /pol/ down was if we took ourselves too seriously. Half of the appeal of politically-incorrect ideology is the fact that we make some fucking FUNNY shit.
The libfags can't do that. They choreograph their laughter at the chosen acceptable target, and that's it. /pol/ is the opposite - EVERYONE gets shit on, constantly, all the time, and the banter that results is Grade A.
Good luck finding a leftist who would ever make something as funny as pic related. Go ahead and try, I will be waiting for the next 50 years.
this place is so volatile you adapt and learn to not give a fuck
almost in a sort a mental shield, which places like tumblr and reddit artificially supply you with, but not your own, so you can't venture out and go anywhere else
>Create huboxes that shelter other users from this growth
This is a very good point that you raise.
This chan remains so prominent for one reason and one reason alone. Anonymous.
Not the herr derr w3 4r3 leegun an on e moose shit.
You and I, here, right now, I am leaving an intelligent impression based upon only what I am saying; because I am Anonymous. I could be Bob Dole or manbearpig or a dog or what the fuck ever, but if what I say resonates within another, or two unknown thoughts have the chance to meet...its magic. Being Anonymous has, does, and will continue to have profound real life implications. For fucks sake we made international news the other day. For fat shaming...fucking /pol/ every time.
It's fucking brilliant really.
I couldnt agree more with your entire post. Coming here as afforded me the opportunities that no other aspect of all society can. Underaged b& here when I first started coming here, as Im sure many were. The site has influenced me in ways beyond measure.
Primarily, like you said, acting like an idiot. Or a mad man; if there were one think that this chan has taught me it would be that come men just want to watch the world burn. And have one hell of a giggle while watching said world burn. The many good times we have all had here are practically innumerable.
Chan culture is unlike any other culture out there. We are fucking awesome.
Obviously there are different co-cultures within each individual board. Here on /pol/ is where one would go for an inspiring intelligent conversation. We might tell you to go kill yourself, but we do for good reasons.
It's hard being right on so many things, what is even harder is realizing what that means. That means that many of us realize what is happening around us. We understand that everything we have ever known, the life we used to have is ending, and now, our new live in the time 'after' is developing.
Some of the funniest things on 4chan have been from /pol/.
Pic related proved that /pol/ can still maintain during a massive influx of bullshit.
>adaption and mental shield
Not gonna lie, the cuckold IR spam used to bother me. But when I decided to counter-spam with gay niggers getting raped by white men, and Sequoia shat himself with impotent rage as a result, I realized that no one was invincible.
And now, with what we've done (and are continuing to do) with Gawker, not even the fucking multimillion media machines are untouchable. We are witnessing some kind of evolution of memetic warfare that will be studied decades from now, and we don't even know that we're doing it.
It very much is, it's like all the shitposting has a little more weight behind them here as we all experience the real world. Being conditioned in the polar opposite of a PC environment allows us to take a lathe to the SJW phenomenon that is desperately trying to be the dominating internet culture.
/pol/ reminds me of the old /b/ before it went to shit
>inb4 /b/ was always shit
>I think it stems from our constant conflict a midst each other. In an environment of evolution, there needs to be some level of resistance, in order for the 'generation' to grow stronger. We constantly ridicule each other here, and call each other out on our claims.
Exactly. This is what I've noticed about this site compared to others. We allow our point of views to become criticised over and over by ourselves, and the opposition. And every time we find flaws in our arguments, we adjust it little by little until the opposition can no longer break through it, thus, we grow stronger.
While we grow stronger with our views, the opposition remains the same with their arguments because they don't want an opposition, they don't allow it, they don't like to be told they're wrong. They block their ears and wait for it to blow over. You can't grow stronger without being criticised. And that's what is wrong with the world today, and why it's so weak.
We can post what we want within the law and no one is afraid to express anything here because we're anonymous.
Reddit can't do this because the only content that is allowed to thrive is funneled through a hyper progressive ideological warriors lens being the moderators first and then their even more ravenously leftist user base votes on that suppressing even what they let slide.
Here anything goes. Whats truely good and funny and lasting lasts. The lame shit gets no replies.
4chan reflects actual nature. Reddit and other platorms like it reflect mans attempt to warp and change nature.
An observation: while it is good to have these threads every so often, right before /b/ died of cancer these threads were everywhere. I imagine when we see multiple renditions of these threads at a time (especially if multiple are in the first page) we will be witnessing the end of /pol/ as a worthwhile board.
Unfettered, anonymous free speech bro. Let people talk about what they want to talk about, even if it's (what some would say) ugly. It's a nice release from the pussified, "everyone-gets-a-ribbon-regardless-of-Merritt-because-FEELINGS" society we live in.
It's more like these threads are a break between politics. It's good to look back at all we've done and breath in. These threads allow us to appreciate what we've done and how important this board is.
/pol/ and /b/ are different.
I understand the point you're making, but I can't see it happening with /pol/, like I 'foresaw' it happen to /b/.
What really killed off /b/ was the meme explosion in 2010. That was the final straw, and /b/ hasn't really been able to recover since.
>which we're reluctantly drawn to.
>tfw you just want to watch the whole world burn
Even though we are drawn here by the inevitable meltdown and the widespread death and chaos which will ensue...
Is anyone inclined to help change this world?
/b/ is the fucking worst and best.
We would rek those dumblrina bitches in real life.
If as many people were on 4chan and /pol/ as their are now on facebook, how do you think that would influence the board and the culture? Would the weaknesses of anonymity become prevalent to the point where it could be considered worse than some of the things tumblr and jewbook are known for?
>First came to site in September of 2006(I remember because it was the same month as my birthday) after gearing bantz on a couple forums about /b/
>visit this musical place called /b/
>the beast devours me and doesn't let go
>have only left twice
>6months after the first month of '08 because the faggot culture was getting too strong and the mainstream wave had started hitting the internet and video games cultures hard so I needed to get away
>Second time was in 2010 for 9 months to see if I could leave on my own accord without acting like a fucking junkie without a fix
>mfw been here for 8 years and seen some serious shit
>changed my life in more ways than I can imagine
>also made me cynical as fuck due to it's appropriation by pop culture
/pol/ is still the best thing that ever happened to me, I always knew war was a grey hue and not black and white but still thought fighting for the allies would have been awesome.
I stayed away from /into/ because they were straight up cunts
But this place made me truly understand just how much you have to dig in order to find any legitimate information.
>mfw I finished college before joining /pol/ and I knew fuck all about the jews other than muh six gorillian
God I miss 4chan, I really do
Really, the happening threads are pretty common.
But if you really look at em', they're usually talking about what the fuck is going on. Even if it isn't happening or not.
I've gotten the feeling that its gotten better since the cuckening.
I stayed, many the shitposting prime!
mcnig. how have I not seen this pic
>until the opposition can no longer break through it, thus, we grow stronger.
This is why libtards always resort to logical fallacies
>4chan reflects actual nature. Reddit and other platorms like it reflect mans attempt to warp and change nature.
I dont think so. The only thing that would really 'kill' /pol/ would have to be something drastic. After /pol/ habor I quit making OP's and got quite paranoid so I quit posting all together for a minute. Im not going anywhere.
4chan is filled with people who talk, but don't do anything.
/pol/ is filled with the worst kind: They can identify a problem, yet won't band together to fix said problem.
Well, what are we to do?
How the hell are a bunch of guys from a board on a Japanese based anime website able to band together and do shit that'll make shit rock?
We hardly have the general public's acceptance and many of us who speak about our political beliefs aloud end up sometime losing friends and becoming hated for being "bigoted".
If you have a plan, lets hear it.
The culture here has become sort of a Borg collective. The dominating ideas, memes and mores have been constantly challenged, both from external parties and from within. And through a combination of shit-flinging, wit, and what is genuinely an earnest drive for purity of form, /pol/ has emerged as a colossal, many-headed hydra of discourse. Outsiders who simply do not understand would brush us off as a hivemind, which is only partially true. One /pol/lack has the potential to trigger an entire hashtag on tumblr, all because he browses this board and doesn't give a flat fuck about people's oversensitivity.
I believe our own emphasis on creative control and uncensored discussion is our greatest asset. Because there is no set morality even though there are influences; everyone brings their opinion forward and can illicit intelligent responses (beyond shilling and trolling which is a given). The "triggering" of tumblerinas will never happen here since nobody gives a fuck or the post will get lampooned to oblivion. Everything which comes onto our board is generated by the user base which in turn popularizes memes and ideas that are most successful and uncontaminated by "muh feelings" thought police and still have the wit of genuine satire and commentary not found in mainstream (social) media. Our notoriety only serves to stroke our collective ego and laugh at how the world can villify our little board, how the idea of /pol/ is so much more frightening to them than their own social discord and the major issues for our respective countries in the future.
As if, we are more of a problem than corrupt governance and alarming social dynamics on the rise. So we as 4chan, especially this board, relish the spotlight of our controversy since everyone is so pussified as to remain silent in the face of their convictions.
>Oh yeah /pol/ so great so stronk!
/pol/ can be pretty funny at times, and things like Ebola-chan, Dorner, Ben Garrison, the OC from the Zimmerman and Ferguson trials were fucking hilarious. But saying it's good or 4chan is good is bullshit pure an simple.
>I suggest we don Guy Fawkes masks and fedoras and stand outside a Scientology building!
We learned our lesson, shithead.
I think you are completely wrong about 4Chan influence since we mostly keep to ourselves and our ideas dont reach other websites and the idea of raiding or attacking someone is so looked down upon that it is immediately disregarded and other people circlejerk each other on how stupid raiding someone actually is regardless of the cause.
You gentlemen sicken me. You have one of the greatest tools of change, right in front of you. Instead of going at things all at once (Which is what you're afraid of), move subtly and an inch at a time.
Infections that kill hosts don't happen all at once.
>Memes and jokes that begin here trickle into the remainder of the internet
That's because there are a shitton of lurking redditors and tumbltards who copy OC from here to repost on their blog for likes/reblogs/gold/e-peen.
>tool of change
The only tool here is you.
Question everything that the feminists spread, use the best defense, attack.
They don't expect you to question everything and then counter attack with information that you have gathered before.
I like this op. Conflict, though sometimes cruel and painful, has alway brought about the betterment of something. It's the very force that drives not only biological but also social evolution
In regards to just debating with left-leaning people, I've noticed that they usually end up going in circles when you debate with them.
Once you've trapped them, they'll say something stupid and just ignore the entire debate.
This is how its been for me.
Why don't we meet within our own locales and have discussions? Although anonymity is a strength, the ability we have as units connected in the physical world to create social change is a lot more than discussing politics on a japanese imageboard. Let's use sjw tactics against them. Let's have some bravery in our own values and make a stand.
This anon beat me to the punch>>42948432
We learned when a bunch of teenagers came out and screames "WE R LEEJUN". Abandoning our anonymity is what will ever destroy us. However, we can still do the next best thing: dominate internet memes and troll the fuck out of Old Media and the PC police
The "Tool of change" is a computer. Either you're trolling, or you're a regurgitated cum bubble that was spat into your mom's pussy to think that I'd say "Hurrr, 4chan, tewl of change lolol"
Target where the diseases manifest. Think about it. What website do Liberals, SJWs, and every form of degeneracy use?
I'll give you a hint: We've made them tumble before.
As a nigger that has lurked and shitposted off and on since 2005, the anonymous and chaotic nature of 4chan itself is what makes it so addictive.
People complain about shitposting, but what has kept me enthralled for so long is the ability to constantly F5 and scroll past tidal waves of shit in order to find that one golden post. It's a treasure hunt--like humanity itself, many people are walking, talking shitposts, but if you search hard enough, you can find a genuinely creative and intelligent person to talk to. Sifting through hordes of idiots, crackpots, and nutcases in order to find that one sole voice of sanity is what made, and currently still makes, 4chan what it is.
Also, hello Newmoot.
Trust me, this will not work on liberals. Their position is a moral rather than factual. For example, all races are fundamentally equal to them. If you argue otherwise, you are evil the moment you open your mouth regardless of what facts you have to offer. Meanwhile they can push hypotheticals and gain support (ie. If economic conditions were equal, blacks would commit less crimes. Nothing has ever even hinted this to be true but its good enough for them. It upholds their moral disposition and offers an explanation for the inequality)
So, what you're suggesting is implant a /pol/ seed within the catacombs of tumblr and use tags to create a web of incognito /pol/tards that post and reblog fat-shaming and JIDF shit?
Dude I'll vote right but I'm not saying anything until we get Taylor Swift or some other super hot celebrity to convince the normies there are non-leftist points of view that are valid.
Killing a board would entail perpetuating some faggy raid on a website that's bigger than 4chan (ex. Reddit) and bringing thousands of undesirables here. We're just niggers talking, kike.
Another thing about this board which makes it great is that it is, and always will be counter culture. It attacks the beliefs in power, and it makes those people in power lose their shit in the process. It's contrarian as fuck, and it constantly calls people out on their bullshit (perceived or otherwise).
Today we shit on the disease of "MUH FEELS" and tomorrow, after that bullshit has (hopefully) come and gone, who knows what we will be shitting on? The best part about it is watching whoever we shit on decisively lose their shit and call us a hate machine or something equally as retarded.
The ride never ends. It has ups, downs, highs, lows, fasts, and slows, BUT IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS.
/pol/'s ascendancy is a direct response to the more-or-less mainstreaming of the SJW movement and a general disillusionment with the American left at the end of the Obama era - not to mention the Trayvon / Ferguson drama.
I'm sure I'm not the only former progressive here. I abandoned the left when it became increasingly apparent that they'd tolerate totalitarian ideals in the name of their chosen societal Good Things. I think there's a vast dislocation on the American left and right - a number of leftists being disenchanted, in the post-OWS era, with American liberals' utter obsession with identity politics, and the American right struggling to articulate itself, torn, as it is, between moribund neoconservatism and incoherent libertarianism.
While I'm not totally on board with it myself, it's no real shocker that a reactionary nationalist element is emerging. As far as the left goes, people are tired of being told that everything is correct and we are never to judge. And the right - people are tired of moneyed interests and democracy to the highest bidder.
Reactionary nationalism offers something to both left and right in its appeals to higher principles. The left gets to feel part of a team trying to accomplish something for once - because the contemporary American left is all too happy to attack its own members - and the right gets to feel like they're standing for moral principles rather than mere neoliberalism.
It's funky, man. We'll see where it goes.
I would, but it's against the rules to suggest a raid.
Not to mention that after the "Blackout" raid that /pol/ failed to deliver due to lack of numbers, I don't have much faith in anyone's integrity on this forum.
I simply hope that by planting a seed of thought in people's minds, they will come to realize that there are ways to combat stupidity. Don't think for a second that the sane-minded non-liberals are defeated.
That raid would have been fucking cancer. Fucking up some lamer's blog with 100 readers is one thing, but to raid Tumblr would just brings thousands--fuck, tens of thousands, of them here. And many of them would decide to stay and gay up the place. Eventually, we would be outnumbered and be forced to laugh at *their* memes. What kind of hell would that be?
/pol/ is way better since polharbor. Less NIGGERS JEWS NIGGERS and more discussion of actual politics.
Still plenty of the former, but /pol/ actually seems twenty five percent respectable these days in terms of discourse.
It wouldn't be a raid if you operated under the tumblr user agreement, and it seemed like a blog subculture. It would have to be a slow, methodological approach. Start small and delicate, reblogging quirky things that may even appeal to the dominating SJW culture of tumblr at first.
Imagine that: /pol/ using taqiyyah
>Gay up our website.
>implying that they're not already on here.
Don't think for a second that we can fall victim to their disgust. We combat shit, with bigger piles of shit than them, and you need to understand that.
also we got many visitors who use things like "underrated post" because they come from other sites where people just can appreciate things if they see a rating first
>the ability we have as units connected in the physical world to create social change is a lot more than discussing politics on a japanese imageboard
This anon gets it.
The single most powerful thing you can do is to (very!) gently, rationally and civilly introduce currently politically unacceptable ideas into conversation with people you know. Ideas spread virally.
I'm not advocating you try to convince your mother that the Zionists control our minds. But if you've got a friend on the left, stand for free speech against the SJW doctrine of the intellectual "safe space." A good number of hardcore lefties still have classical liberal sympathies.
Hearts and minds, boys. Hearts and minds.
I'm drunk as shit, but I'll put it to you this way: this website isn't recognizable from how it used to be. Everything changed in '08 with the Chanology raids (and not for the better).
The only real constant with 4chan is that it has remained anonymous and chaotic. And before you claim that I'm just being a nostalgicfag, I actually stopped using 4chan from 2009 - 2013 because of how bad it got.
This place really cannot handle another massive Tumblr raid by this point. One or two more large scale ones will turn this place into an Anonymous Somethingawful. Permanently.
Social justice is doubly totalitarian, as it inherits its totalitarianism from both Marxism and feminism.
>hurr feminism isn't totalitarian!
Actually, yes, it is. A totalitarian ideology is an ideology that must be applied to EVERYTHING, no matter what it is - nothing can exist separately from ideology, which is why it is TOTALitarian. Feminism is being injected into literally EVERYTHING, and social justice just takes that and multiplies it.
I've often wondered why radical Islamists and SJWs get along so well. It's because they're both totalitarian ideologies hell-bent on destroying Western civilization. SJWs are Stalinists and Salafists repackaged for consumption by the upper class Western elites, and it's been super-effective to date.
It's like you've forgotten the #HashTagWars of last June.
>introduce counter-currents into the thoughts of those in darkness
You mean like we apparently did to reddit, which is causing everyone's favorite Gawkeroid to have a mental breakdown like pic related?
>YFW we have evolved past the JIDF to become the /pol/uminati
My gma got me. I was a good libertarian. She was a 10 year old in the war. She says she can't go home to her old home town because its now all muslim and poverty. She once said it would have been better if Hitler had won.
She was a pretty die hard liberal too before this. But her home is gone. Struck a chord with me.
Anyway, that stuck with me and now here I am. Its like a paradigm shift. You can either see things one way or the other.
could you explain what changed for me?
I came after chanology and the death of 4chan proper, summer 2009 to be exact. So, I never really got to experience the "golden age" of /b/ or 4chan.
Imagine if everyone on /b/ was just like everyone on /pol/during the Zimzam trial but with even more balls
Now imagine all of that being stolen and dragged out into the public instead of staying in a corner of the internet most people were too afraid to venture into. Before the internet was something everyone had, before reditt, before SJW's, the feminism wave, and the mudslime refugee rise
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Why do you care so much about stopping this conversation?
fuck off 'journalist' from some lowbrow clickbait site.
I think there's a lot of random chance to what kind of culture a board develops, but I really like the one we have here. For one thing, it's nice to have a mostly right-wing board with so many funny people in it. In the US the right doesn't seem to have much of a sense of humor as a whole, so this place is pretty refreshing
Worst thing about 4chan:
Too many cluttery distracting photos.
I wish there was a filter that would subdue lead photos that are
4 letter words
Maybe shrink the photo to 1/5 size when the filter was engaged so you don't have
nightmares after going on 4chan.
Best thing about 4chan:
Anonymous. Easy to use. Minimal censorship.
>fucking with people
we still do it, but if you're primarily on /pol/, you're not going to see it too much (not talking shit about /pol/, but just saying this board isn't one people come to for practical advice).
for example, the other day on /k/
>faggot comes in
>asks how to disable cartridges covertly
>tells us he needs to secretly disable his buddy's defensive ammo because he's a drunk
>general attitude of the "community" is that this fuck shouldn't be fucking with someone's defensive ammo
>most of the replies involve telling OP to put the cartridges in the oven or microwave in order to cause the primers to "thermally decay"
/b/ is too stupid to pull it off (lol system32 doesn't work anymore because people know what it is), but even on /b/ 90% of info threads are filled with shit that will either explode, produce poison or otherwise kill or injure you.
we still do it...almost more than in the past I'd say.
/b/ can't, as its been systematically maimed. /s4s/ becoming a thing clove off a major aspect of /b/ - creative shitposting. now its just rolling games and porn dumps without the benefit of creativity.
nah, I don't think so.
as someone who went to college for network engineering and knows a bit about network programming:
the most effective campaigns generally boil down to social engineering and having a large user base/following.
hacking shit legitimately normally just amounts to a propaganda victory or something to the tune of "confirming what everyone already assumed" (for example: snowden's leaks)
meanwhile, gawker was brought down literally by 9001 faggots spamming corporate PR fags with "fuck gawker and fuck you for supporting them" and autism-tier research of ad company ToS's.
if 4chan in general had that kind of user base in its current form, the system itself wouldn't be able to handle it...and I'm not talking about back end shit either. we literally would need to pull a futaba channel and have redundant duplicate boards (I.e. /pol/, /pol1/, /pol2/ etc) just to cope with the sheer amount of posters.
not even a primarily /pol/ish poster, but all of the boards are like that. all of the people concerned about censorship left for double imaheboard the moment pol harbour occurred because it was pretty obvious what was going on.
nah, it just looks like a wall of text like that. I've designed imaheboards before, and accidentally did that with the CSS on one of my projects once. its ugly as hell.
/pol/ is pretty much feeds its own rage.
Look at how much shit we instigate for lulz and then complain about it when it kicks off.
We come up with something ridiculous like manspreading, expecting nobody to possess the levels of retardation required to actually believe this, then the femnazi's get 'enlightened' and start harassing people with the shit we come up with.
>Moderators that think banning you is a joke and not illegal when it totally is.
>Moderators that ban you and pretend they don't to avoid getting butt-fucked in prison.
>No moderators that I can think of, just terrible layout and programming.
too many conspiracies floating around to pin it down specifically, but its obvious that 4chans administration literally nuked a major popular board at the height of several major controversies and some mass banning of certain topics and words.
for example, I STILL can't openly mention that one website run by that guy in a wheelchair.
personally, I hate it, but for a very different reason:
as a "create your own board" site, its made every other alt-chan obsolete, but in doing so its centralized a lot of boards that used to be their own site (for example, their community /fringe/ used to be fringe Chan. their board /cyber/ is drawing traffic away from lainchan, etc)
in trying to make a safe harbor, that dumb cripple's made a single point of failure for non-4chan chanese culture.
and again: people went there primarily because of the whole fiasco involving gee gee and pol harbor.
HEY i lurk and let me tell you, its the fucking banter. The fact that nobody has to be held responsible for what they say because we are anonymous (bar these fucking IDs on.)
like really dude ive been using this site since cock mongler was a based god and i think i might have made one thread in like 9 years yet i come here everyday. Its the ultimate sense of truth because we don't have to protect anybodies feelings. Shit is what it is.
its good shit.
4chan only prospered because of its simplicity of design at the time. Now there are better places to get funny pics, or talk about given topics, or find porn, etc. As time goes on it will only serve more and more as a set of mini-communities for self-deluding antisocial fuckwits criclejerking and whinging about how stupid everyone except for themselves is.
It was doomed from the minute the "why so serious?" mentality died out (which it was doomed to anyway). Now that the internet matters to everybody it's not enough of a secret club anymore.
nice try kikes, but I wont spill the secrets any time soon. The more you try to read and comprehend it to exploit it, the more you will be drawn into it and the more YOU will be the one who is exploited.
You can only keep your goal in mind for so long, when the other elements of your psyche starts tearing through it and screaming for more.
>personification of /pol/
>not god tier nordic
420 hours on MS paint
What, talking about other chans is not allowed here, or is it just that one? Is that supposed to be an "attempt to disrupt the board" or something? I guess I really must have missed something here
Started on /b/ back in the day...
Mostly lurked years on and off seen a "pol was right agian" meme and decided to sus it out, refound some of those neat pockets of interesting conversation that i thought was lost to cancer on /b/ and stayed.
Pre much agree with what many said above the conditioning to make proper arguments, a contrarian nature, non pc and anonymity.
First lesson i learnt on this site things aren't always going to be fucking handed to you so "lurk more faggot"
What I think and this is speculation on my part for being on this site for a very long ass time has to do with multiple factors that separates us from the rest of internet forums.
One is that when we post we are posting anonymously. Its cut and dry but if you think about it gives us a different mentality than from the rest of online communities when engaging with others. We don't link our selves to this site on social media accounts nor tell anyone who isn't a very good friend about this site ever so the fear of posting something that can be linked to our identities is out of the question. That is one of our strong suits because once you eliminate fear ideological debates flourish because the only back lash we would ever face is getting called a fucking faggot.
What we do on this site which is discussing the world around us. Faggot sites do that as well but the difference is every thing we get discussed can or will get debated by another anon so we are more invested into engaging ideological discussions. We have a more knowledge of the world around us because this site challenges us on a daily basis on our view points. This prevents fucking hugboxes/circlejerking bullshit you see on websites like fuckumblr and retardit because there is no safe place where our bullshit won't get challenged at. Not to mention the trolling just helps us to shut up emotional dribble since what we see here that is trolling is piratically the same shit we would see in the real world only to a PC language of it.
Finally which probably doesn't apply to everyone is some of us used to be /b/tards during the days when mods only gave a shit when CP is posted. Those who used to go to /b/ we are desensitize to alot of the emotional garbage but we learn on how to go after those who need a wake up call. But as we got older we started to give more and more of a damn about society so we switch boards that engages our new needs but retain all of /b/ "tactics" of going after faggots
We have obtained the ability to turn memes into reality.
Long live the new flesh.
You don't know shit, fellow dutchfag.
Try focusing on our own country first.
I think this thread reflects rather clearly the very nature of the internet as a whole. It started off great with lots of intelligent individuals giving complex arguments and ideas but after a period of time as more and more people entered the thread and gave their opinion something began to shine through. That something is simply how many ignorant and or poorly articulated people post online. 4chans greatest strength is its weakness.
We can never go back but thankfully we have containment websites like reddit and facebook.
hell i'm sure their is even a more inaccessible place that intelligent people are communicating at that i don't know of right now.
tl;dr The vast majority of people are swine and peasants.
The bikini bridge thing was a nice examole of how we can socially engineer pop culture, the most notorious example would be gamergate tho because it is redpilling a lot of young people who browses youtube to watch gameplays
I feel like this site needs a true cult of personality to get behind. Like, an incarnation of its ideas and beliefs. Like a fake mascot who any anon could take the form of and relate. But he must have a name and an image unlike an anon, it must seem mighty and fearful but stupid.....like some sort of space marine shit posting fag.
Tbh for a popular website with virtually zero moderation and no way to get rid of shitposts whatsoever, I think 4chan has a surprisingly good intelligent / funny comment to shitpost ratio. I mean maybe not good objectively, but if you compare it to most other forums it honestly seems like a standout to me
I think the same the problem is that the people already doing it are not subtle and maybe not funny.
The time and effort is not seducing when you see that extremism goes faster so the cartoonists and bloggers in that site that identifies with /pol tend to go deeper in the conspiracy since they see it having more of a instant gratification.
I don't think PlayerPortal was manufactured as much as it was a genuine explosion of grassroots outrage against SJW encroachment.
Genuine populism scares the shit out of the establishment.
self-reflection is for fags just embrace the memes
The fact was their were people here that didn't fit in with society or have a face in society, as moot said "4chan allows people to be more human in the sense that humans are diamonds with not just a single face and perspective with a name attached, instead a human has many facets and uniqueness just like a diamond does" The likes of other social media, gives you a name, you have to show a perspective of how great your life is and it seems almost robotic and UN-human like. Here we see different perspectives from a wide range, different senses of humor. Moderated anarchy, this attracts people who want to share opinions without the judgements of who they are and the worry. It's a place for a faceless community to gather and mock, tease, discuss or disapprove of what consists in essence of modern society in a range of categories as well as find new interests in society.
it is a closed club. Oldfags forcing their ideology down the throats of newfags because "you need to be red-pilled" - pschyco's organising raids, swatting and distroyoing small businesses...4chan uses anominity to gather real life personal details and make them public. 4chan actions contridict it's beliefs. The kids club is now like a cult, where the only acceptance is to follow like sheep, adopt the "chanology" of the site and do as told... what good, that normal people can understand, has 4chan ever done?
Nobody forces you to do anything here you unbelievable faggot. You can post anything you like here even if it contradicts /pol/ dogma, and you know the reason you don't is that you'd get btfo every time. I love it when smart people with normalfag opinions come here to argue, and I wish it would happen more often (instead of all the retarded reddit trolling). The day someone comes here, has a serious argument with me, and makes me completely concede a point, I'll be truly fulfilled.
This place...this place is gold to me. It's my news-platform and my entertainment. You guys, bastards all, have changed my views on so many things. Or atleast pointed me in the right direction, showed me newsfeeds and taught me that watching the world burn could be increasingly close and fun to do. All the habbening threads have doomsayers and soothsayers. But all of them post news-links that contain facts.
/pol/ is an asshole, a fucker that will hurt you. But when the burning stops you realize that /pol/ is right and always will be.
Anonymity is the reason why 4chan excelled. Removing the chains of society and moral codes allows innovation and honesty. Granted most of the time it is trolling, but the trolling was so fucking onnovative that it was worthwhile. Loosening the chains on me allowed me to see that I valued some of the chains, I am moralistic, albeit it with a very dark humour, and very much in search of my own vision of england existing irl. I am a footsoldier of sorts in search of something of worth. There are echoes of it in my country and this place helps me find others. No other site makes me laugh out loud irl like this place, even the shittiest of threads can contain hilarity and worth. It is no wonder so many want us removed, it is a shame that such voices are heard here too. /q/ brought most of them to the fore and I feared for a while when moot sold us for a sniff of some jewpuss, he had the presence of mind to leave though, we shall see how the faceless mods manage, I hope their anonymity will give them strength too.
>mods anonymity will give them strength.
I havnt considered that. Moot was constantly in the spotlight. Hopefully the mods in charge are as based as he once was. They won't have to worry about people criticizing them for the shit that goes on here.
Sometimes I think it would be a good thing if 4chan was just removed completely. Those of us addicted to the culture would spread out across the other chans and eventually regroup at a site that isn't constantly watched by news media/other websites.
>What has allowed us to endure and prosper so long? Is it a combination of elements? Or is there one outlying characteristic that allows us to accelerate?
We are Anonymous. That's why. You can flame, troll, bash, hate, love, or fap to anything imaginable with a reasonable degree of anonymity. This is the room where people go to shout at the world without the cultural norms that society has placed upon us being constantly shoved down our throats. It's a place to vent. It's a place to breed. It is a place of almost total anarchy, and that's the way we like it. This place is therapeutic. It is a magical place.
Dank meem's are what makes us so great.
And occasionally, a thread like this.
This picture will add to your point.