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All video, news, and some twitter links from Oct 9 have been amalgamated into a pastebin for the sake of smaller op's and easy referencing. Feel free to post links again today, and tonight, they'll be put into another pastebin. And so on until we get sick of it.
>Map of Airstrikes
>Live map, with ticker on the right side
>DC and local Syrian time
>Twitter account frequently updated - BASED IVAN
>The Syrian General Archive
http://pastebin.com/UX4QLepi (October 9)
Thread reminder to watch Threads.
Thread reminder to also watch When the Wind Blows.
ISIS executes 3 Assyrian men in Syria. The killing took place over a week ago, during the Muslim Eid, but ISIS just released the video today. The 3 men killed were part of the 200 Assyrians that have been held captive to ISIS since Feb 2015.
all 4 claims of russian planes being shot down have now been debunked as being from libya (and afghanistan in the case of the re-used helicopter crash pic)
turkish propaganda machine going all out
"al nusra cleanses aleppo from al qaeda"
>mfw all isis/"moderate" rebel claims of damage to Russian/SAA forces are old spliced videos
>"we really did it g-guys! i swears!"
it seems the SAA retook some important territories yesterday and are getting close to the Kuweyres airbase, northern Aleppo
then there's the western media blaming putin/assad for the refugees and "bombing civilians" while sweeping under the rug the hospital bombing and shit
if ever there was a time to see shit propaganda in action, it's now
I've been offline a while. Has russia ended up attacking yet?
>You are being incredibly disingenuous
really? how much coverage vs "OMG PUTIN IS EVIL' have you seen? 1-2 articles? 5 mins airtime on the networks, right before the latest distraction scandal from hollyjew? hell hillary's emails have gotten more coverage and that's barely talked about as it is (other than on fox)
come on man, if you're going to shitpost at least make it seem realistic
When did anyone say it was okay. The president personally apologized for it.
It's clear what happened. Guys on the ground thought they were taking fire from the building, they called in an airstrike and the air force did it's job. The entire city was a battleground, shit happens. Sorry.
>impying this is the only time
only reason they admitted they did it was because there was so much attention on the ME from Russia's actions and they got caught red-handed
how many other dozens of times have they (or the jews) killed civilians and no one said shit
you're sounding like a shill to put it quite bluntly
Things people will never forgive you faggots are shit like that.
I was 15 in 1999. but I very well remember that hospitals were bombed and that the dead were called collateral damage.
Day will come when your people will be collateral damage and when your hospitals and TV station buildings will be >valid regular targets.
Not if you don't know it's a hospital. Accidents are allowed under the geneva convention. Sorry bub, it's only a war crime if they knew it was a hospital safe zone and bombed it intentionally.
>It's called collateral damage, it happens during wars.
spoken like a true shill
you're a hillary voter arent you
>or a berniefag
>or a jew
>liberals think war is pretty and butterflies
shit happens in awful conflicts like this my friend especially when fighting an enemy like this
too be fair, we were fucking with niggers
Not only it's a hospital, but a DWB hospital, which us protected under UN charter. Burgers killed American and European doctors inside. Afghan army already confessed they didn't know it's bad to bomb hospitals and sent the coordinates deliberately. USAF kept bombing even after they were told they are bombing the hospital. It's a clear war crime and everyone responsible (including USAF generals) should be tried for war crimes and locked away for life.
With the JAN/AQ forces either having to go south to fight the SAA or fleeing like the rats they are to Turkey, its inevitable that ISIS would take advantage of the situation.
Its a 3 player war. If 2 sides fight, the other will pick the weaker side and go after them as well.
Its what has happened this whole war.
Western media are just upset because the horse they backed is getting split-roasted between ISIS and the SAA.
Russia's goal is to stabilize Syria, and crush ISIS. They have also changed their 4 month time table to an indefinite one, conditional on the successes of the SAA.
They are in for the long haul, and the total eradication of ISIS.
>no one cried "war crimes"
>except the germans
but they dont count because the war crimes tribunal decided to ignore allied crimes
are you willfully stupid or just shitposting at this point?
>Too bad they arent using it against ISIS. Just the FSA.
All the good rebels quit in 2014 when they realized the west didn't want a functioning government in syria. All that is left are warlords and local militias that just want to keep their communities safe from crazy jihadists and aforementioned warlords.
Are there any news from Idlib?
I know a guy from Idlib.
That day will come sooner than you think.
Fuck off mountain kike.
>he whole free world on your side
Asslickers do get cancer...
I am just happy that I will live to see your cancerous empire dissolve and disappear.
Just like how Britain is now just a small island.
Yes We Can! Putin out of Syria and the Ukraine now!
Shit's going to get destroyed. Its a war. A war with artillery, airstrikes and a lot of urban combat. Cities are being raised to the ground all over.
They will rebuild. Hell, they are already well into rebuilding Homs. Assad was there overseeing some of that today.
ISIS are spread across the whole east of the country. The forces attacking Aleppo have been doing so for literally years. They are gaining ground in the north of the city, but losing it in the south/south-east as the SAA push for the Kweirs airbase. They have taken nearly all the towns south of it while were previously held by ISIS. There's only 2 left before the SAA territory links back up with Kweirs. That will be a great day.
There will be a lot of urban fighting once the main thrust of the SAA reaches Aleppo. Much of it will be destroyed. That's weeks plus Idlib and al-Shurjuwhatsit away at this point.
ISIS will continue to take advantage of the chaos, and the weakening terrorist groups in the city and likely try to make gains. There is an SAA front that will do what it can to prevent them from making many.
Expect the media to freakout further as this happens.
Russia is using cheap dumb bombs and un-guided rockets, which they have a massive surplus of. They're not spending themselves into the poorhouse like we do when we fight wars.
Also, Russian ground troops (in the form of at least one tank battalion) are reportedly already there. The Chinese may be preparing to enter the fray as well.
For a moment i thought that Australia can be part of jewptilians empire and want ww3 to begin so it can start a new life of intelligence kangaroos and spiders on the ruins of the old world.
>am just happy that I will live to see your cancerous empire dissolve and disappear. Just like how Britain is now just a small island.
Could be worse, just glad I'm not a Serb. I don't know how your country deals with owing eternally irrelevant
>1000+ aircraft used in the operation
>only 1 shot down
Wow were the Serbs even trying?
Have you already seen a tos-1. Those are an evolution to what was on of the most feared weapon in ww2 also called stalin's organ. This weapon rekt so many germnazi that they now have a woman president and 8millions refugees a year
Videos of high tech stealth bomber being dragged trough the mud, after being shot down by some Russian sam from the sixties, are great advertisement.
Must be selling very well.
>Numerous casualties have been reported as two powerful blasts rocked a road junction in the Turkish capital, Ankara, the local Dogan News Agency reported.
any Turk can confirm happening?
The general died in a car accident on his way to the front south of Aleppo. Nothing particularly sinister at all. Lost it on a curve, rolled down a hill and snapped his neck. Just a bullshit accident.
More likely Kurd related.
I am proud of my ancestors and of my lineage.
relax, we're not going to forgot about our good friends the russians
now they're saying 35. it'll be more than 50 probably
could be ISIS
could be erdoğan false flagging
could be kurds false flaggin. i think it was kurds who got killed so there is that
This grill walks up to you in the mosque and slaps your gf's burka. Wat do?
its true though, I havent seen my family in two years
Looks like Assad has totally failed in his recent offensive. Heads should be rolling.
Dozens of tanks easily destroyed by AT positions. They have barely advanced an inch. Zero co-ordination between air power and ground offensives.
Laughable. Arabs can't fight.
>Looks like Assad has totally failed in his recent offensive. Heads should be rolling.
maybe you should be more convincing by posting the reason why you are saying this
>Heads should be rolling
This isn't conventional warfare, there's no real cost to Russia doing this. If there was a real world war going on then national economies would become very important. Just chucking around a few well placed bombs and deploying some Spetznatz isn't going to bankrupt anyone, even if it goes on for years.
An astute observation that has plagued Assad the entirety of the war. I don't think it's that "Arabs can't fight" they just do not allow the coordination or joint training other (even non western nations) nurture. Many authoritarian regimes require literally "royal" permission to okay anything within in the military, like Hitler did at the end, but magnified x100.
None the less he makes the same damn mistakes he's been making since the beginning, even quality Hez infantry couldn't do much but buy him some more time. If I see one more video of AFVs buttoned up without infantry support I'm going to scream, he's a goddamn idiot.
Holding actions, some villages taken from ISIS but mostly nothing has changed. People here are starting to worship Putin.
They are saying that the US was never that serious about getting rid of ISIS, they just want to contain them. In this kind of dirty war, there will be collateral damage. The US is either afraid or unwilling to get it's hands dirty.
Putin is not. Iraq will shift into the Russian bloc, just wait and see.
Wew, putin made a great move waiting this long and then coming along just as people were becoming suspicious of NATO actions in the region. If what you say is widespread, natives worshipping Putin, this can only get better and better for Russia.
NATO BTFO beyond belief
Iraq allowed Russian cruise missiles to fly over it's sovereign borders, it's already happened in many respects.
NATO just doesn't many any sense, why won't they touch Mosul? Who the fuck cares if you bomb civilians, ISIS will just lie and say you killed civilians no matter what.
I blame Obama, he's one of the weakest most indecisive presidents America has ever had.
Good shop actually.
Elsewhere in the world:
This morning, SAA Artillery is flattening the towns of Kafar Laha, Ghranattah and Umm Sharshuh. while the army pushes into Talbessa.
These are the areas closest to Hama.
I guess they are going to crush these pockets now.
And on the other front where the pushing was don yesterday, the mountain town of Salma is also getting levelled in anticipation of storming it.
With only 2 towns between the SAA lines and Kweirs airbase now, expect to see them capitalise on their momentum and keep on going.
Looks to be an action-packed day ahead.
I hope when the war starts Putin remembers that the politicians are out of touch with the majority of their populations...
If only McCarthy were alive today... what would he think!?
SAA Reporter @Syria_Protector 2h2 hours ago
#Salma town under heavy firing, #SAA paving to storm.
Note: Salma controlled by insurgents since 2012
watanisy @watanisy 1h1 hour ago
Confirmed / #SAA and #NDF captured Kafr Dulbah and Kafr Dulbah mountain fully near Salma
if it was another crazy bush there would be american troops fighting assad
what are you complaining about
do you really think they have anyone there have any interest in defeating isis
Western military industrial complex won't allow it.. they'd rather see our countries turned to dust, unfortunately. If Russia tidied itself up a bit more I'd consider moving there. The suicide of the West is too much to take at times
It's nice to see momentum back on SAA's side for a change. For an Army reeling from so many losses it's really going to be a huge morale booster.
Thank you based Putin. The Syrian people will never forget this.
>the US was never that serious about getting rid of ISIS
A lot of Americans are starting to come to the same realization, I think.
It's pretty clear that they are so fucking obsessed with Iran (because of the supposed threat to Israel) that they can only focus on getting rid of Assad and Hezbollah, even if that means reducing the entire region in the same chaos as Libya. That may even be the goal, since it would provide a ready-made excuse for Israel to expand all the way to the Euphrates.
>do you really think they have anyone there have any interest in defeating isis
Yes, Russia, Syria, Iraq and Iran. Everyone else (especially the juice) wants to see ISIS remove their enemies first before they make any real moves on them.
Hurr durr lets replace the strongman enemy with hardcore islamists again. Replacing rational actors with irrational ones since 1979.
why of course... just a little "misplaced merchandise"
I've been thinking this for a while now. It's pretty clear that it's in Israel's best interests for ISIS to fuck up the region, but not gain too much ground. They'll be funding Al Nustra, Al Q, ISIS and FSA just enough to spread the risk and ultimately the region will be so divided they'll be no chance of 1967 ever again. Remember the six day war. Israel had to fight off an alliance. If they can fund (along with Saudis as they have the same goals since they distinguish themselves from Sunnis and Shias) all the opposing groups and take out assad they'll have destroyed any real opposition in the region. Then once Syria is destroyed they'll take all the strategic areas (recently discovered billions of barrels worth of Oil in Golan)
That's it essentially. They want ISIS to remove their enemies, Assad, Nasrallah and Khamanei.
We were beginning to be convinced that ISIS was unstoppable after being bombed for a year and still mounting offensive operations.
Yet in a week of Russian bombing more damage has been inflicted on ISIS and islamist factions than during the entire year of coalition airstrikes.
We are using the analogy that America was training ISIS like an animal. Attack this area? We will bomb you. Attack this area, we will not bomb you.
>if it was another crazy bush there would be american troops fighting assad
Same thing if Hilary were president. I can't believe how many U.S. politicians on both sides of the aisle are screaming for a "no fly" zone over the rebels as if that were a viable option and wouldn't lead to WWIII, and Obama is actually being the voice of reason calling the idea "half-baked."
For all that Obama is bad, it could be much worse.
>It's pretty clear that it's in Israel's best interests for ISIS to fuck up the region
Ding ding ding. The middle east is full of retarded conspiracy theories about jews and there is a reason for that; Perception is reality.
But in this case there really is no other way around it. Israel even treated wounded Nusra fighters just to get them back on the battlefield.
I agree that most arabs will never accept peace with Israel, so I understand why they do this shit, but it's a never ending fucking cycle.
It's pretty blatant when Al Qaeda is sitting right there in the Golan heights and Israel won't hit them.
Yeah, Trump, for all his failings, is probably the least likely candidate to initiate WWIII. I had hopes for Carson and Fiorina until the last couple of weeks, but they've gone batshit insane over this, too, and are following Rubio and Huckabee right off the cliff, it seems.
Well I got my kek-filled snackbars for the day already
It's fucking sad when Trump's greatest asset is his ignorance (at least in regards to how American politicians operate).
The guy is a fucking retard, but he means well; we all know this and give him a pass for it.
>Anything they perceive as a serious threat
Yeah, to the UK-resident Bilderbergs and the Royal Family. This is why Sharia law on the streets of Britain is literally happening: it will never affect David Cameron's drinking buddies, so gosh why not
>2 Hind's attacking positions, One almost kissing the ground at one point.
>#SAA are 6km away of #Kuweyres Airbase now after capturing Judaydah & Tall Sab‘īn this evening.
>SAA soldiers storm Kafr Nbuda.
>The Mystery of ISIS’ Toyota Army Solved.
>#Salma town under heavy firing, #SAA paving to storm. Note: Salma controlled by insurgents since 2012.
>US freezing of Syrian rebel training scheme shows western disarray.
>Khamenei on killed Iranian General Hamedani.
>RT EXCLUSIVE: Trail of bodies behind retreating jihadists in Syria.
>Damascus residents applaud Russian Airstrikes.
>SAA shelling insurgents in KafarLaha, Ghranattah, UmmSharshuh. Clashes in Talbessa ouskirts in Homs.
>From inside newly liberated alBahsa in Lattakia.
>Syrian Army is on a Roll in Northeastern Latakia: Two Strategic Towns Captured in 48 Hours.
FRESH NEWS OF HAPPENINGS!
Are you fucking retarded, Clapistan? DWB tells everytime before a battle starts their position. So shit like bombing their hospital might not happen
ISIS has expanded (by 1 university complex) thanks to the weakness of the "FSA".
Just because they are getting their shit pushed in on multiple fronts by the SAA with Russian air cover doesn't mean its the Russians' fault that ISIS took advantage of the weakened FSA/AQ groups.
Besides, isn't America supposed to be protecting them from ISIS?
I would argue that his GREATEST asset is that unlike pretty much everyone else, his campaign isn't being funded by the likes of Sheldon Adelson or George Soros.
But yes, at this point, I think a lot of us would rather have a well-intentioned buffoon if that's what it takes to get rid of the establishment.
This is how we felt about Abbott when we elected him.
He was an ineffectual retard, but he was safe. He wasn't going to fuck us over intentionally like Gillard had, her side promised to keep on doing.
Look how well that turned out for us.
Trump isn't Jewish, and doesn't spend his vast fortune on stirring up political dissent around the globe like Soros, or on ensuring U.S. politicians support the Zionist cause like Adelson.
Well, there's no guarantees with Trump by any means, but it seems like with almost anyone else the prospects are pretty grim.
Thats preety cool, Iraqbro. Can you tell a little more about what's going on down there?
>Chechens aren't really a problem anymore
they are very religious sunni muslims, so if they aren't a major problem now, they may become one after something might happen to their leader or to Putin.
And since Chechens are so religious they have a bunch of ISIS sympathizers amongst them right now. For example a couple of days ago 3 ISIS terrorists were killed in Chechnya. Today 3 terrorists were killed in Dagestan.
This shit happens every day.
The Lord bless you, based Assad. And holy fuck the hezbolla is pretty based too.
Ivan Sidorenko @IvanSidorenko1 29m29 minutes ago
#Syria #DeirEzZor #دير_الزور Report from 104th Syrian Republican Guard Soldier. #SAA #SRG killed atleast 40 #ISIS
fuck off you souless kike, why should anbody feel obligated to their government? They all literally fucking sold us to GEOs.
Something like 95% of Russian strikes have been on non-ISIS territory. They are destroying the buffer between ISIS and the incumbent government which is allowing room for growth and ISIS appears better adapted to a fluid front so they are benefiting the most.
>Syrian migrants fleeing Assad regime, not ISIS, survey finds.
>LET THE PROPAGANDA GAMES BEGIN!
>30 feared dead after bomb attack on HDP peace rally in Ankara, Turkey.
>Does the Free Syrian Army no longer exists?
There is no point in airstrikes without boots on the ground to take advantage. We are supporting Assad's troops where they need it, not just bombing brown people in order to feel superior.
we Space War now!
>WASHINGTON — A mysterious Russian military satellite parked itself between two Intelsat satellites in geosynchronous orbit for five months this year, alarming company executives and leading to classified meetings among U.S. government officials.
>Intelsat is one of a handful of companies working with Air Force officials as part of a pilot program known as a commercial integration cell within the Joint Space Operations Center, the Defense Department’s nerve center for space operations. The commercial integration cell gives the Air Force a better sense of how commercial satellites are operated and how they could more closely coordinate with military space capabilities.
>People call Obama weak
He's not only weak he's indecisive.
>Lets bomb Assad
>Okay lets not bomb Assad
>Lets arm the Syrian rebels
>Lets stop arming the Syrian rebels
Make up your fucking mind. A good Captain always appears to have a plan whether he does or not.
I really fucking hope Trump wont be Obongo 2.0, if he realy turns out to be as honest as he makes one think, than we really have great times before us
What are you talking about? They even reached us.
Been space war for a while.
My favourite bit was earlier this year when your guys handed the US embassy a binder full of photographs of every spy satellite the US currently has in orbit, all taken from the ground/low atmosphere.
The were confused to say the least.
Released a few of the pictures of the Lacrosse ones when they did it. I think that ground based observatory, the new, dedicated anti-sat one wherever it is, took most of them.
To be fair, that indecisiveness is the only reason we haven't done something (even more) incredibly stupid yet. Gotta give him that much.
Plus, most of that flip-flopping was just public posturing, not actual policy changes. The U.S. had been arming the rebels right along, just not openly, and that with continue. Not bombing Assad (not openly anyway) was a product of (thankfully) not getting authorization from Congress.
>russian poster doesn't understand the importance of complete military deceit from his government
you live with this stuff your entire life, no wonder it goes in one ear and out the other
Listen mate, I've spent a significant amount of time in Kabul and nothing is what it seems. This is a horrible mistake and someone should lose their job for it - however if the JTAC/Observer on the ground was in fact Afghan special forces the blame lays squarely with them. Blaming the piolots/munitions is a facile argument, doing an attack run on a city you are 100% dependant on the commander on the ground calling it in.
I make no apologies for the Americans but please believe me in the last ten years the RoE has changed massively and the notion that this was authorised in anything more than error is ridiculous. And not to detract from that point but the Afgans really don't give a fuck. If the blokes in that hospital were Pashtun/southern no one in Kabul would be crying - and they hate do gooder bed wetting liberal doctors more than they do ISAF soldiers.
would not be the first time they captured it, they took 30 Blue Helmets hostage last year or 2013, don't remember
and Quatar stepped in to pay them 50 Million Ransom kek
they are the greatest allies greatest Ally after all.
>there are documents that state he is from indonesia
>the first thing he told the new nasa chief was make muslims feel good abou their contributions to science (ßonly destroying 90% of books they found)
>he lets iran self inspect if they build nukes
>he supports islamic terror groups and the gulf states
They might have. It likely wont last through.
>Push enemy out of location
>The regroup and launch a large counter-attack
>Pull out of cleared location
>Enemy enter location
>Russian air force bombs location
>Move back in, mop up
I know islamists are idiots, but even they have to realise they are fighting an enemy with complete battlefield domination by now.
I mean, they tried to form up a mob on the Ghab plain the previous night to try and counter-attack under the cover of darkness. They got spotted by Russian drones and levelled by artillery and airstrikes.
There is nowhere to hide. There has to be some level of self-preservation instinct amongst them somewhere.
>There has to be some level of self-preservation instinct amongst them somewhere.
They could draw literally millions of young muslim fanatics from countries like egypt/indonesia.
Do you think they care?
As the only country with a space program that puts people up there, I think its fairly appropriate to have a proper space force.
>The first orbital gunship was Mir
>The first interplanetary warships will be Russian, Chinese and Indian.
They are talking shit for days. First they didn't loose it, then they recapture, then recapture again.
>#SAA backed by #RuAF take full control of Bahsa in Al-Ghab Plain #Hama and Kafr Dulbah SE of Salma in #Latakia countryside.
>Newly Operation Iraqi CH-4B armed drones - Kut Airbase Southern Iraq.
>#Syria #Hama #حماة Video of Militants using a Gvozdika Self propelled Howitzer.
>Syrian Armed Forces #SAA sit only three villages away from the Kweires Military Airport #Aleppo.
FRESH! FRESH! FRESH!
Yea, just like killing is forbidden unless it's against infidels (anyone not of leaders opinion is an infidel) and sex outside of marriage is forbidden (unless it's rape of infidels, and marriage is defined as the man requesting the womans servitude, not as agreement)
i'm sure there's some good reason for drugging them up to be found in the quran too.
there have been plenty of air strikes targeting non fundamentalist groups
keep movin those goalposts, got to defend russia at all costs
>we are bombing isis
>see guys they are bombing isis!
>bombs 90% not isis
>see guys they are bombing terrorists who are not moderates at all
>bombs secular resistance
>see guys you are cucks LOL
isis is capturing territory faster than ever thanks to father putin :^)
Yea sure. Name one which was on non terrorist or terrorist supporters.
>Pro-tip: you can't
Until you provide contact info to russia to negotiate with your moderate rebels, they are simply armed insurgents who oppose Assad (i.e. the same as ISIS).
I don't know whats hard to understand about that.
The have "Zheir ad din" they were never not relieved
TBH they all look like terrorists fam.
Just because you armed the least batshit (but the most incompetent and retarded group) doesn't make it any less of a blight.
That said, Russia asked for location and contact info of who is on the US payroll and promised not to bomb them. US has not delivered.
The good people of Syria deserve to know who paid for this "revolution" that turned their land to shit.
Don't you have hospitals to be bombing anyway?
Every dollar increased in oil price gives Russians 2 billion dollars. So if their intervention increases price of oil by one or two dollar then it will pay by itself. As Americans have stated it costed them 2.4 billion for more than 2 thousand sorties.
An upgraded GRAD mounted on a tank chassis, a real game changer! Have a turnip.
>FSA even existing prior to Russian involvement
In 2013 U.S. "senior military officials" speaking on condition of anonymity indicated that the Pentagon estimates that "extreme Islamist groups" constitute “more than 50 percent” of the Free Syrian Army with the percentage "growing by the day" and NBC added that the FSA "is an army in name only. It is made up of hundreds of small units, some secular, some religious – whether mainstream or radical. Others are family gangs, or simply criminals." Commentators have suggested that "few media outlets are willing to say that out loud, but..there is no Free Syrian Army. It's an umbrella for providing Western aid to a front group run by the Muslim Brotherhood."
If it sits in a bush with an AK, shouts allahu akbar a lot and refuses to communicate with your officials, it's probably a terrorist.
I think a great deal more common denominators for moderate rebels and ISIS/Terrorists general can be found than between soviets and muricans in ww2 germany.
>It's all right the we (in-)directly sponsor terrorists because allies and commies worked together to defeat Hitler
Ignoring everything else that is wrong with this, ISIS would be the Hitler of the Syrian war
Hang on murrica
If the FSA fights with the fundamentalists, and it can't beat either Assad, or Isis, how was it supposedly gonna beat Assad and rule Syria?
Were the rest of the Islamists gonna magically dissapear?
Were they gonna magically become capable of beating the other factions?
Or was Syria supposed to be a shithole full of warring factions forever for the convenience of greatest ally and your Saudi clients?
Because I think and I think, and I can't see how the Murrican plan would end up with anything other than another Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc.
Which is to say, Assad is a much better option and you should feel ashamed of playing with other people's lives.
Its just a regrouping of the pricks that were already there.
New banner, new name, new claims about being a moderate group. Same old fuckwits who will die like the rest of them.
Islamists are fleeing Syria in numbers higher than those coming to it now. They are afraid of Russia. Wont be too long before they lack the numbers to offer any real resistance.
They fight side by side, they share their resources, they even hand off some of arms provided by USA to them. So, they are allied with terrorist groups and they are supporting them. Once again, why is it bad thing to bomb them?
>Jaish Tahrir al-Sharqiyah (Eastern Liberation Army), a new FSA-affiliated "anti-ISIS" guerrilla group has appeared in Deir-ez-Zor.
These motherfuckers are like mushrooms.
right, which is why groups that promise to play nice and not cut the heads off the people they capture get a few crates of tow missiles every week, that's about it
we get to sit back and maybe one day the people not hell bent on taking over the world will prevail (I can already tell you they won't)
For quick example:
You could find other cases without problem. You could also find yours tow missiles in al nursa.
The thing is - there is no one monolite FSA in real world. It is dosens of gangs, big and small. They fight each other from time to time, they cooperate with each other.
fsa and isis have been battling each other for years which inevitably leads to captured supplies
I don't know what you are getting at
if I see you driving your car and I take it at gunpoint did you share it will me? are we best friends?
>leads to captured supplies
Isn't a main problem being that they will start to follow a leader who will promise them more virgins or a clearer path to heaven than Kadyrov is currently promising them.
Not b8, legitimate question.
text is static so you can read it multiple times
this is a dumb conversation anyway, isis hardly battles assad forces nor do they wish to depose him. the majority of their conflict is with groups like fsa. it must be one hell of a ploy to destroy your undercover ally
New thread when?
Here's some news :
>Syrian Armed Forces sit only three villages away from the Kweires Military Airport
>#SAA backed by #RuAF take full control of Bahsa in Al-Ghab Plain #Hama and Kafr Dulbah SE of Salma in #Latakia countryside
Repost it in the new thread when there's one, I'm leaving now.
why are you claiming that IS didn't exist in 2013? and what relevance does this have to anything even if it were true? the FSA is predominately islamists, true or false? the FSA is not a coherent group, true or false? these were the points I made, what point are you making?
Turnip's for everyone, you have all done well!
>step 1: let the SAA and ISIS destroy the 'moderates'
>step 2: destroy ISIS
I don't see the issue here
Oh, so in summer '14 it their band of islamic sharia terrorists who like to pose with cut-off heads turned into a band of islamic sharia terrorists who like to pose with cut-off heads?