>>53777102 His father created martial law and rounded up any terrorists and potential terrorists and squashed the FLQ. His father was pretty based about terrorists which makes me sad that his son is such a pussy.
>>53778025 Feels pretty good bro. I'm a student who has his education paid for by mummy and daddy, I live at home so I don't pay property taxes, and I don't have a job so I don't have to pay income tax.
>>53778278 I forgot to mention that I am socially liberal as well. I participated in 9 gay pride parades. I am also the VP of a student group that deals with Gender Equality and LGBTQ+ rights in my Uni. I also made 3 lectures on gender bashing in the 21st century this week. Cis conservative voters like you will never advance society. Way too backward.
>/pol/ fell for the terrorism meme >/pol/ fell for the niqab red herring >/pol/ conveniently ignores or makes excuses for Harper selling our sovereignty to foreign interests, running deficits for years (conveniently fudging the numbers to announce a surplus before a crucial election), eroding our democracy, chiselling away at our rights, and the fact that Harper will bring in tens of thousands of refugees and actually increase immigration to fuel economic growth
When you can't tell who are the bigger cucks, Facebook leftists or /pol/tards, you know your country is fucked. The fact that you shill for free is absolutely saddening.
>>53778576 I'm fiscally conservative but socially liberal on all issues except for immigration and terrorism so I don't understand why you're trying so hard to "insult" conservatives so much but I'm fairly certain this is a bait trap I'm falling into.
>>53778817 He ran deficits during that insane recession like governments are supposed to and now has had a surplus for two years when things aren't looking so bleak as before. The economic migrants in Europe aren't even being screened properly which is an atrocious security risk.
>>53779343 A lot of our economy is tied up into the oil sands, the Saudis and shit all of a sudden deciding to sell oil for nothing isn't something harper caused or could do anything about. I don't even like harper, but he's been doing fine as far as the economy goes. Better than the libs or ndp would've done, at least
>>53779375 It kind of already is right now tbh, can you imagine if he does win, oh my God. We will be the next India or Mexico. I may have to use an Australian proxy so that I don't get "DUDE WEED LMAO" on every thing I post.
>“I smoked pot with the best of them and came to love it,” former Canadian first lady Margaret Trudeau says on page one of her 1979 book Beyond Reason (Paddington Press). Born Margaret Sinclair in 1948 to a Canadian diplomat, she was the youngest first lady in the world when she married Pierre Trudeau in 1971.
“I got obsessed with the idea of freedom…with materialism and greed, with the influence of pop music and revolt,” Trudeau wrote. While listening to Janis Joplin, the Beatles and the Rolling Stones, she studied Blake, Coleridge and Keats as well as Timothy Leary and Buckminster Fuller. “It was easy to get marijuana,” according to Trudeau. “We grew it in our gardens in the summertime or bought the grass that came up cheap and plentiful from Mexico and California. I drunk it all in—the music, the drugs, the life. I jibed only at opium, scared off by Coleridge, and though some of my friends tried LSD, there was no cocaine about. I did try mescaline one day, and spent eight hours sitting up a tree wishing I were a bird."
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree apparently... Here is a upskirt shot of his mom kek
Trudeau is a useless pussy, but Harper is downright useless/mediocre/out of touch. At least with Trudeau, you know that competent backroom boys will be pulling the strings. And since the Liberals have no ideological besides getting elected, we will return to the golden age of technocratic rule.
>>53779292 Yes, and the difference between the Conservatives and the Liberals, NDP, and Greens is actually quite small with respect to refugees and immigration. But for some reason, when Conservatives open the floodgates, it's ignored, yet when the other parties do, it's the end of the world.
25,000 refugees vs. 10,000 refugees. It won't even be that many, since no party will reach their asylum seeker target.
>>53780159 Because anyone who talks about politics on social media is a left wing cuck. Conservatives don't speak up because they are afraid of being harassed and mocked, which is what happened during the Bush years.
Also if you say the wrong thing on facebook that doesn't line up with the Left they will destroy your life.
>>53780159 He's left wing and social media tends to be left wing but watching his ads and watching his speeches makes me want to create a series of comedic youtube videos. He's such an easy target it's not even funny.
>>53780264 China, India, Europe, South America, and Australia are all in a slow down. Read something that isn't written by main stream reporters who just google everything. One look at the Economist would tell you this.
>>53778365 >Having anyone besides Harper represent us on the world stage would be a fucking embarrassment
He has already done that.
His grandstanding over bombing sandpeople, making a country that is barely relevant to Canada a cornerstone of his foreign policy, and pretending to be tough against Russia are laughable at best. And cutting ties to Iran and blocking Russian scientists from coming to attend an astronautical convention is poor statesmanship - toothless political moves that show weakness. We lost a seat on the UN Security Council for the first time under Harper's watch. Our status in the world is lower now than it was 10 years ago.
He's trying to flex his muscles while being a DYEL skeleton with synthol injections, and he's not impressing anyone who can see it.
You guys do realize that running a deficit is pretty much the only way for the government to invest money in things like infrastructure, healthcare, defense, etc? If you try to maintain a "balanced" budget you have to make cuts in those areas so that they get even less funding than they need.
So how do Conservatives propose that we build roads? How do they propose to pay for buying 65 F-35s? Surely the money has to come from somewhere.
>>53780874 You mean left wing, massive government, control, public oil corporations. large government programs, repressive social normals. These are all trademarks of your typical liberal. If they don't want you to think for yourself, they are liberal.
He'll balance it just like Harper is "balancing" it.
By tapping into the Work Security Fund, which is taken right from every workers paycheck for the express purpose of paying for their unemployment. The Federal or Provincial government put 0 money in there.
But the Feds now have no qualm about taken a few billions out of it to balance their budget, and at the same time restricting access and use of this fund.
Literal theft. And they actually think we'll vote for them.
Only the Bloc has expressly spoken out against this. The NDP is opposed to it but hasn't really said shit about it.
>>53781218 >Conservatives are fucking retarded and they literally want gay therapy camps and they want to pollute our oil sands with chinese and filipino workers You don't look into politics with opposing viewpoints very much, do you?
>>53781228 Canadian's hate to admit it but we are basically a territory of the USA. We can't do anything too far removed from the yanks or our society would collapse. We hitched our wagon to them and it has actually worked out very well for us.
You guys are delusional. Trudeau Sr was the worst thing to happen to Quebec. And the Liberal party, both Federally and Provincially have done nothing but try to make Quebec MORE dependent on the rest of Canada (see their constant torpedoing of HydroQ).
>>53781330 >At least vote liberal so we can finally get proportional representation I don't trust the Liberals after they were littered with scandals in the past when they were in power. I highly doubt they revamped their party to jettison those corrupt people and I'm fairly certain their pulling the strings behind Justin "do you remember my dad" Trudeau. The man has no sense of self but Harper does, as does Mulcair. If you vote for anyone left, go for Mulcair. At least he knows who he is and isn't being pushed one way or the other by people behind the scenes.
>>53781184 >>53781217 The entire discussion was about Canada's image on the world stage and how Harper has diminished it. So yes, it actually matters to the discussion. If you don't care, then you shouldn't care how other world leaders would feel about le Weed Man, Margaret Thatcher's Snatch'er Muncher, or the Single Mom of Saanich, either.
>>53781446 He would if he could But almost everyone in the country is a leftist of one form or another, so actually putting into place any conservative policies would lose him the next election Just like whats going to happen now
>>53781456 Which is bad because that's 60-70% of Canadians and under harper they are ignored.
Can't wait for monday. Gonna get drunk as fuck, watch the blue jays and wait for the results to roll in while shitposting on /pol/. All you conservative ass backwards hicks are about to get blown the fuck out. Go fuck a bible already you medieval peasant tier mongos. You're all as ignorant as an inbred baby boomer if you seriously vote for harper. Our country will finally be free of this dumb fuck and his retarded government.
Ezra Levant let on he's not hopeful on a recent Rebel Media broadcast. He talked about how conservatives might underpoll because SJWs make it heresy to be a conservative, but things aren't looking good tbh fam.
There have been some good provincial upsets lately though, AB and BC.
>>53781565 >The entire discussion was about Canada's image on the world stage and how Harper has diminished it. Who fucking cares that the pussies in the UN don't like Canada as much as they used to? I think it's based that Harper took a stand against what happened in the Ukraine and stuck by it by banning those Russian scientists. I'd rather not be seen as the nice cuck that everyone can push around in the world.
>>53781675 >investing in economy is raping it >implying we have any economic growth (worst our economy has been since post WW2) >implying he's doing that at all, canada's already only like 70% white and in the younger generations it's like 40-50%
Just leave the country you fucking hick. We don't want you here. I seriously rather live as a peasant in 1000AD Russia than live under the conservatives.
I have my own car and apartment and i'm voting liberal. I have a friend who makes 400k a year running his own business, he's voting liberal. Nearly everyone with a brain is voting liberal. If you aren't voting liberal you should be shipped to Iqaluit.
>>53781835 It's because he's been there 11 years and the conservatives have no personality. They're literally just harper. He's a fucking idiot. If the conservatives dropped him and were a bit more centrist i'd vote for them but they fucking suck so i'm shilling liberals faster than I breathe because I want the conservatives to realize they're fucked and they need to be a bit more progressive/centrist so that we can have a competent party. Anyone being PM for more than 8 years is retarded as fuck.
>>53781703 Harper did nothing to Russia. He basically whined and thought banning some scientists would actually change anything. Putin didn't lose a wink of sleep over it.
It's one thing to support Ukraine, and it's another thing to make a piss-poor attempt at annoying Russia (it didn't work) because you're too spineless or weak to actually do anything substantial. If any other leader had done what Harper did, you would call him just that: a spineless, weak pussy.
Refusing entry of those scientists was mixing politics with something that should have been apolitical, and makes him look like a weak statesman.
>>53781865 >>53781850 Thank god you guys are a fucking minority in Canada. I'll be smoking legal marijuana, going to work with all my friends from around the world and enjoying life while you guys complain about muh guns
Harper: >best goy >Canada through fire for Nutsandyahoo >most immigrants in history >two recessions >8 deficits >1 trillion in federal debt >voted with the zog in refusing to condemn extremism >are social darwinists >piss on your dishware Trudeau: >I actually admire China's basic dictatorship >has recited wahabbist prayers in a mosque; doesn't shake the hands of Muslim women wearing their garb; does the custom for the middle east instead >voted with Harper on C-51, FIPA and literally everything else. Wants the TPP >has corrupt oil lobbyists chairing his campaigns >fucks around for no reason like Harper in the Senate >can't speak French >is a puppet for liberal fossils
>>53781971 I'll be getting a whole 11 dollars more a week with his tax cut :] I'm also banking on the bank of canada raising interest rates a lot quicker than they should when they see the mad dog start spending. That'll suck for everyone. Justin's middle class can no longer afford that nice house as FirstTimeBuyers(tm)
>>53781824 Liberals have been a fucking joke party in Canada ever since Jean Chretien retired. Remember when they were in such ruins that the NDP actually become the official opposition? The fucking NDP. The party that literally only middle school idealists who don't know a fucking thing about actual politics or economics vote for in their school's mock elections. That party became the official opposition. Liberals finished third for the first time.
Nobody is going to vote for Justin "remember my dad" Trudeau's Liberal party. Certainly not anyone with any semblance of intelligence. Did you watch the last English-language debate? His entire gimmick is assuring Canadians "I'm a trustworthy guy".
>>53782126 You're in the minority. Lots of people are going to be saving quite a bit. I get 1000$ more a year. It won't change much but when you have hundreds of thousands getting more money like this it helps.
>>53781887 That's a horrible reason to hate the conservatives. Underneath all that I only got that you don't like them because they have no personality. Politics is not Keeping up with the Kardasians, Neveah.
>>53782187 So you're married? Max on the platform said 670 or something. I make that in 3.5 days. I think Canadians have a lot of debt they should be paying off instead...but poor people are not smart...so they will probably spend. I'll give you that.
>>53782278 By personality I mean ideas more than the leaders. The CPC isn't a party. It's literally just Harper. His ideas, nobody elses, his policies, no one elses. Anyone who tries to be a little progressive or centrist or tries something new gets muzzled and replaced. Harper needs to fucking go already. I want to vote conservative but not with that shitty leader. By personality I mean I want a party that isn't one man. I want a party with new innovative ideas and that's not the conservatives. I want people who look out for the betterment of Canadians first and that's not the conservatives. Harper uses fear mongering to gather votes. Just look at the niqab, it's fucking bullshit. Only 2 women since like 2010 have even tried to wear the niqab at the ceremony. They had to take it off for id and everything as well. Then we have C51 where we have more rights stripped from us. We have shit like candidates saying gay people need to go to fucking camps, like are you kidding me.
>>53782497 >Anyone who tries to be a little progressive or centrist or tries something new gets muzzled and replaced For good fucking reason. We already are a left-wing country, the Cons already ARE centrist. If we moved any further left we'd be in the middle of the pacific ocean. We'd be further left than Sweden.
Top kek, they're a borderline totalitarian regime. Not even close to centrist. A centrist government would actually consider legalizing marijuana instead of shilling for tobacco companies all the time and blatantly ignoring studies.
I want civic nationalism. Absolute social and economic freedom for every canadian citizen but put those citizens first. This means access to guns, legalization of weed, right to chose ones own religion etc.
>>53782497 >By personality I mean ideas more than the leaders. The CPC isn't a party. It's literally just Harper. His ideas, nobody elses, his policies, no one elses. Anyone who tries to be a little progressive or centrist or tries something new gets muzzled and replaced. *citation needed And is that a bad thing? I think it's a case of good leadership.
The niqab is sexist and spits in the face of our Western values for equality, and C51 is an alright bill. The reason there are not many terrorist plots happening is because they are being thwarted by our increased security measures because of a very real threat in the middle east. If it was up to you the FLQ would still be a thing instead of being strangled dead.
I want traditional ideas to stick in parliament but I know that I'm but one anon in a sea of cucks.
>>53782501 No. It's not a lot of money for anything useful. What you're saying is totally false, the complete opposite is true: An extra $675 will only help those people who DO spend every single paycheck as soon as they get it. It will help idiotic poor people afford the latest iPhone each year. If you have a $500,000 mortgage, $675 is not going to make a fucking dent. If you have a $100,000 RRSP, $675 is not going to help it much. If you have been maxing your TFSA, $675 is nothing as well.
You must be poor if you think $675 is a lot of money (which makes sense if you're voting Liberal). Unfortunately there's bad news if you're poor: the tax cut is for the $44,401-$89,401 tax bracket. So you're not even going to get that much.
>>53782618 This is because those terrorist plots are thwarted by the popo because of our increased security measures. They literally don't happen because these measures are in place and increased measures means something like that crazy lone gunman won't happen so easily.
>>53782887 Because the conservatives dont support the freedom and rights of every canadian citizen.
I care because it's retarded to keep it illegal >it could make billions in tax revenue >save billions in policing costs >take money away from illegal crime and topple lots of criminal industries >provide huge tourism bonuses on top of our dollar being cheap
Do you understand that. That's such a minuscule number. More people die from rolling off their couch than women that tried to wear a niqab to a ceremony. Canada is a country that respects peoples culture. If they want to wear a retarded fucking headdress I dont give a shit. It doesn't affect your life in literally any way. Muslims are such a small part of our population. You need to worry about chairman mao and the gang, not Mohammed.
>>53782975 TPP and FIPA and C-51 and the wheat board and not refining anything, are what? Internationalist? Yes. Guess who are the only ones who want different? The more isolationist but yes moderately left wing but nationalist social democrats
>>53783086 >Canada is a country that respects peoples culture If your culture is First Nations, Anglo-Saxon, or Franco, sure. There's nothing in our constitution that says we respect Islam, or Yao-Chang.
>You need to worry about chairman mao and the gang, not Mohammed. I worry about them all, to be honest. And I'm honestly starting to suspect that you're an immigrant, most likely of middle-eastern or North African descent.
A vote for the Conservatives is a vote for the NDP. With no path to a Conservative majority, all you can really affect is whether the Liberals get a majority or not. If they don't, then the NDP will hold the balance of power and will be able to squeeze who knows what out of the Liberals.
If you're a right-winger, you really need to ask yourself what's worse: a Liberal majority, or a government hostage to the NDP.
>>53783086 You do realize that these radical Muslims despise Western culture and values and want to do everything in their power to fuck us over? And here I thought that Liberals had ideals and principles that they stuck to.
>>53783161 Im white of german descent m8. I'm just not an ignorant redneck and I dont judge people by their skin color. My family doctor is chinese, my dentist is an indian, my mechanic is a pole, the guy I see to get my hair cut every time is a filipino, my boss is a dutch person, I work with all kinds of europeans, arabs, asians etc. I dont care where people are from, there culture just improves this country.
>>53783086 You're right about the narrow issue of citizenship ceremonies, but the real (largely unspoken) issue is the message it sends. That Canada has certain values and some things just won't be tolerated. Fundamentalist islam isn't a visible issue in Canada *NOW*, but once upon a time it wasn't an issue in Europe either. If you do nothing then a tiny problem can become a small one can become a medium one... you'll be wishing you cut it off at the bud.
>>53783230 You must not get outside much. I've met a lot of muslims and most are really polite and love canada. You spend to much time on /pol/. Why would a muslim want to destroy Canada when they have a job here, their family is safe, they can practice their religion in peace here etc. The moment when a religious minority becomes hostile is when you start stripping them of rights and that's what you want to do.
>>53783272 >I'm just not an ignorant redneck Wait, you're not suggesting you would be intolerant of ignorant rednecks, would you?
Europeans are a global minority and we're very quickly being reduced in numbers even further every year. We should try to maintain majority in the countries we have. It has nothing to do with hate, it has to do with self-preservation. Something I wish more Canadians outside of Quebec/Alberta believed in.
>there culture just improves this country. *citation needed*
Multi-culturalism has never worked, ever. It has always led to tension and civil unrest, look at Canadian history for example.
>>53783184 ...I'm not sure who else here remembers when Martin (in a minority) had to reluctantly spend billions on "social housing" (ghettos), "the environment" (green energy boondoggles), and foreign aid in order to placate the NDP.
>>53783350 They don't "love canada", and they certainly are not CANADIANS At the end of the day, they remain muslims, and so have strikingly differing views on many subjects from any normal white person.
The second generation also will radicalize, and we'll see more terrorist attacks
Get a real job. Your trudeau bucks aren't going to do shit.
I decided to get a skill when I was 20. 28yo electrician now. Bought my first condo at 24 with zero help from traditional parents who are middle class normies. I got a nice gift card to ikea though, if that counts as help from mommy. Building equity has been easy considering my current rate is a laughable 1.9%
/pol aside, don't buy a house unless you're married or starting a family or something, especially if you're in one of the main cities. I smell a burst bubble on the horizon. Taking on a stupid amount of debt right now is dangerous. Go small or don't go alone. fam to fam.
>>53783350 I have a muslim friend from Toronto who says he became an Atheist due to the anti-Canada/Western values that were taught at his mosque. He said all they learned and talked about was about how one day they will overthrow the Kaffirs, and how Islam will dominate the world.
He went to one of the biggest mosques in Toronto, btw.
Not all muslims are violent, but a lot are, and a lot of them wouldn't mind seeing our Western culture destroyed.
>>53783412 Have kids then faggot. White people have been a minority for a long fucking time. We're a global community now and Canada is a country built on immigrants. If we accept people for their differences they won't feel ostracized and they will feel as if they belong and this helps our culture grow. If we act like ignorant retards and use fear mongering to strip people of their religious and cultural rights then we end up with fractured communities and that's when immigrants do become a problem. Multiculturalism is literally working in Canada right now, just look at Vancouver and Toronto. Both are rated as some of the nicest cities in the world. Vancouver is less than 50% white now.
Holy shit, the fact you actually believe this is baffling. Muslim kids aren't like that at all and most of them think their parents are pretty crazy for being that religious. After 2-3 generations most just drop religion all together. If you aren't an autist and actually treat people equally then you'd realize people are inherently the same, they like the same jokes and experience the same things they just interpret the meanings differently.
>>53783272 I'm generally pretty indifferent when it comes to culture, but I really don't see the upside of bringing islam into Canada. The really dangerous thing, as I see it, is planting the multicultural tolerance flag on the rock of Islam, since it will cause Canadians to turn against all immigrants when it's really just that one part that causes problems.
p.s. I had a white German-Canadian friend who was converted to Islam in Canada and went full-fundy. Moved out of the country to marry some Palestinian mail-order bride and is as likely as not in ISIS by now.
>>53783620 Like I said, stop fucking complaining about muh whites are extinct. They literally aren't going extinct and they never will. If you seriously care so much have some fucking kids right now instead of being a fucking bitch blaming other people for all your problems. Does it really make you that uncomfortable to be around people of a different skin color?
>>53783331 The Natives willingly signed their rights to the land away for shiney beads so I don't have much sympathy for their plight. Sure, the residential schools were shitty but there comes a time in every adult's life where you have to accept the cards you were dealt and get over it and move on with your life.
>>53783651 All religion sucks, if you bring immigrants to your country but then turn around and take their religious rights away they rise up. If you instead respect their religion but still enforce laws eventually they learn and realize this isn't so bad. Yeah you'll still have the extremist faggots but they either die off or have kids that go to schools with more tolerant people. After a generation or two those extremist retards aren't an issue. Their kids and grandkids have grown up in Canada and realized this ain't to bad because they've grown up with a plethora of whites, asians, indians etc that they have formed bonds with and shared memories with.
>>53783701 >They literally aren't going extinct and they never will They absolutely will. The only reason the natives are still around after being subjected by another majority, is because of -remember that word I used?- self-preservation policies.
> If you seriously care so much have some fucking kids right now instead of being a fucking bitch blaming other people for all your problems. This is a terrible argument. If I have 3 kids, which is 1 child higher than replacement rate, that would be 1 surplus white child. This isn't something I can fix on my own, stop being retarded.
>Does it really make you that uncomfortable to be around people of a different skin color? Here's the famous liberal loaded-question.
As I stated before, it has nothing to do with hate, it has to do with self-preservation.
>>53783836 The niqab is retarded but again. LITERALLY 2, yes TWO. 2 fucking women ever have tried to wear the fucking thing while becoming a citizen and they had to take it off anyways to verify identity, say their oath in private and take their picture. 2 women who were religious and insecure because their entire lives they were told to wear the niqab were told to take it off and they did but all they wanted to do was where it for a stupid fucking ceremony that doesn't matter.
>>53783888 >self preservation >muh white people >not wanting to preserve the human race as a whole
You're still complaining, go have 20 white kids if you care so much. There are hundreds of millions of white people. Whites won't die off, it's statistically impossible at this point. There can and will be more brown people but who gives a shit, they aren't any lesser than you or anyone else. It all comes down to upbringing and education.
>>53783921 >If there was just cause I'd be fine with it.
And there's the rub, isn't it? There isn't a just cause in either case, unless those scientists pose a security risk. They didn't. They were coming for an international astronautical conference, which had nothing to do with politics. It was a childish move, not based.
If you think that's fine, then we just have to agree to disagree.
>>53783824 I'm an atheist, but to say all religions are the same is ridiculous. The only religion that contributes to political violence in Canada is Islam.
Islam is basically at the point Christianity was a millennia ago. I wouldn't want to bring 11th century European Christians into Canada either since they'd be doing all sorts of barbaric and violent shit.
>>53783918 It's about these radical Muslims being so against Western values of gender equality that they want to make this happen. It's about standing up for your principles and what you know is right and you know, mr immigrant liberal, that women walking around in a halloween costume where you can't tell who it actually is isn't right. It isn't. It's anti-women. It's sexist. It makes non-radical muslims look bad too since they are grouped together with these sexist bigots that hate the West.
>>53784121 You haven't asked any questions. You just keep spitting white nationalist tier dogma over and over while doing nothing yourself to fix your problem showing you're unwilling to make a stand for what you believe in. It's actually literally 100% impossible for white people to disappear. Become a minority and shrink yes but for white people to stop existing is impossible. Germany is like 90% white, even if they take in millions of refugees they will still be 85%+ white. Yes they have a problem but that's mainly useless fucking men from a war torn country trying to borderline invade them. The refugee crisis is just an example of how fucking stupid religion is, not skin color or race. The middle east has seen shitty government after shitty government dating back to like 1300AD. That place has never been stable and probably wont be for a long time. That doesn't make brown people bad, that makes their culture and their upbringing shit. They've known nothing but shitty governments.
>>53784306 They will still come because Canada is one of the best places to live, we may as well try and accept them and educate them. Who cares if they wear full face coverings, they're fucking stupid if they do. It's not their fault though, if you were told your entire life you're a piece of shit and you need to wear this robe and whenever you took it off you were beaten half to death you'd feel insecure about not wearing it too.
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