Do you think that Sinn Féin will win the 2016 elections?
They'll make significant gains but the obligatory pre election Gerry Adams fuck up will keep it to a minimum.
Best outcome is they get to be the minor party in a coalition. Then we can watch them crash and burn for the next few years, ultimately casting them out as a the fucking retards they are.
Unless you're electing some Iceland tier leaders to throw out your central bank who gives a shit. You're still owned by Jews
Implying I vote
If I did I'd just vote for the AAA. They are the stupidest political party I have ever seen operate in Europe.
I'm leaving this country in a few years and I want to see it burn before I do.
We should rejoin the United Kingdom. All our successive governments have ever done is mismanaged the economy and turned the country into a massive tax haven. I'd rather be ruled by Cameron. Long live the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.
>Irish Economy in the shitter
>suggests joining Great Britain
>implying that will make it better
Also, republicans are faggots who can't accept that Ireland is incapable of effective self-rule, and the only way they we have any influence on the world stage is through sending MPs to London to become UK government ministers.
It's actually not that bad. Seriously, the UK immigrants, for all the bullshit said about them here, are pretty British. They put the US non-whites to shame. I have no problem with most of them, the only ones I have issue with are the intolerant muslims.
>TFW the blueshirts are gone
i can't stand this shitty country any longer
we need a stronk right-wing party to take power
They are a pain in the ass. The whole situation is fucked, and I'm sorry that my county men caused it in the first place. We should have been loyal to the crown, and in Dublin most of us were until the rising.
Sinn Fein will probably do well, but as long as Gerry Adams is tied to the party, they won't get into government. A quick call to Denis O'Brien and there'll be a few headlines saying "Could G Adams have possibly been in the IRA maybe??"
They're all the fucking same anyway.
As I have said, I'm Irish. As in a citizen of the Irish republic. I've moved to Britian for work, and have found the place to be vastly superior to Ireland. I always suspected it would be, this was just confirmed. I want to be British and feel that my Britishness was robbed from me by a bunch of traitors in 1916. The non-2hite immigrants here are quite polite and manneryly from my experience and I have no problem with them, though there probably are too many. Britain is a great country and I wish the rest of the Irish could see that rather than being stuck in the past.
>I want to be British and feel that my Britishness was robbed from me by a bunch of traitors in 1916
Irish people are not British. You can no more be British than someone from Romania or Finland can be British.
>implying your country is stable enough to house the immigrants in a safe environment
>implying Britain doesn't still exploit different peoples to this day
>implying the anti-English sentiment will die down anytime soon
>let's add a nation of literal terrorists that cause nothing but problems and produce nothing!
yeah northern Ireland already causes enough problems for Britain now you want to add a whole nation of IRA supporters that a good chunk hate Britain? Personally I suggest northern Ireland goes to the republic of Ireland and have Ireland deal with unionist terrorism and shit like Belfast and Derry
TL;DR The British conquering Ireland was a mistake and Ireland is literally Africa
We were British until 1935. Even Nigel Farrage puts us in a separate category from other foreigners, and under the rule of British law we are literally not considered foreign (look it up, cuck). I voted in the last UK general election.
Apart from ridiculous republican romanticism, give me three reasons Irland should be an interdependent country. tl;dr you can't.
Ireland shouldn't be a country. Look up economic assessments of the republic, we still act economically as a province of Britain. I'm not some bullshitter by the way, I know what I'm talking about. Britain is so fucking PC today it's painful, how exactly do they exploit anyone? Anti-English sentiment is disgraceful, and it's the fucking shinners fault. We should take pride in British heritage, rather than rebelling against it.
>We were British until 1935
Politically, for a little over 100 years out of a 2400 year history as an ethnic group. Ireland has only been speaking English as a majority language for another 150 years and Irish is predicted to overtake it as a first language again about 200 years from now.
Ireland's association with Britain is a historical flash in the pan. You could probably make a better case for India being British than Ireland.
Most of the republic is very conservative and has always opposed the IRA. I wouldn't expect the average UK citizen to know this because frankly Ireland is too unimportant in the grand scheme of things to take note of, but it is true. Our political parties have in fact won elections by disrespecting and opposing the IRA and Sinn Fen in electioneering, and this continues to the present day. The republic is not Northern Ireland.
Unfortunately, that's currently the plan. And it's Ireland's loss. It's not just me you know, it's tens of thousands of others who have left, literally the best and brightest.
You don't think its odd that your government seems overly PC? We had that shit in America, then it turned out Ronald Reagan was using the CIA to give black people cocaine, who would then make the crack industry. The crack industry and illegal drugs then turned out to be a massive hoax which assisted corrupt privately owned prison systems. Then we caught Reagan's administration pulling this shit, and he got off with a slap on the wrist.
All I'm saying is, if you really study history, you should know never to fully trust your government, you want it to be omnipotent but the sad fact is, that's an unrealistic goal. Parts of Ireland are definitely justified in not trusting the British, because they've been fucked over numerous times.
>Irish is predicted to overtake it as a first language again about 200 years from now
You're such a fucking bullshit merchant. The pale was one of the most British regions in the UK. Go ahead, give me a source that says that the Gaeltachts are going to overtake English speaking regions, I fucking dare you, they're basically zoos.
If you'd ever been to Ireland you'd see the association. Ireland is Britsh and pretends not to be, everything about the Irish elite is British. But of course you're just a shit poster with no knowledge of the situation at all, so I shouldn't expect you to know that.
Not even close. Sinn Fein is only as lefty as they are because they're trying so hard to be the opposite of the DUP. If Sinn Fein were the DUP except Republican, they'd be doing a lot better.
>Most of the republic is very conservative and has always opposed the IRA
yeah they are so conservative that they voted in gay marriage and Sinn Fein seems to always fucking win along with other leftist parties
Hey and at least they have their own home with its own culture and values to return to and not some fucked up Baghdad/Bradford place to return to, unfortunately this won't be the case for much longer
Wait, I didn't even see the sinn fein thing. Look anon, seriously, try googling it. We hate the shinners. They're marxist faggots. They win in northern Ireland in some regions and that's literally it.
We weren't talking about the UK we were talk about how pro Britain and Conservative Ireland was because I just pointed out how they weren't and what you just stated is fucking irrelevant you retarded bootlicker
if they re-entered the union they would no longer be a tax haven, companies will all pull out of the country and we'll end up with another welfare state english taxpayers have to fork out for. no thanks, they can stay out.
Yeah that is why leftist parties always win top votes in the republic of ireland including Sinn Fein
It's simple really, one of these bum-fuck idiot parties need to take their heads out of their asses and actually want to fix ireland, rather than keep it as the same state to keep it weak. fuck all these useless idiots.
The alternative is to have a well educated, (frankly better educated than your population, due to your regressive education policies) English speaking tax haven on your doorstep, sucking all of the corporate taxation our of your economy. That's what happens now, by the way.
Why would I want to do that? Believe it or not faggot, I have talent, I'll go further in your society than you will. That's probably why I want to be a part of it, if I wanted to be mediocre I'd stay home in the small pond.
>frankly better educated than your population, due to your regressive education policies
Protip: It's Northern Ireland's regressive education policies, specifically segregated grammar schools, that put it so far ahead of every other country in the UK in terms of education.
I'm aware, and it pisses me off. seriously, joining the UK would fuck over the UK, so they dont want them, they need a new, strong party, who wants the best for the beautiful emerald green isle.
Most TDs. Yes.
Fianna Fail/Fine Gael coalition is going to take it, not that it matters. No matter who wins, they're going to fuck this country up even more just to serve Frau Merkel and Denis the Menace.
Fianna Fail: Work-shy bullshit artists
Fine Gael: Work-shy bullshit artists
Sinn Fein: Populists with no real beliefs
AAA/PBP: Social justice 2 marxist boogaloo
Labour: Spineless greedy liars
Renua: Fine Gael's retarded little brother
Social Democrats: Labour's retarded little brother
Progressive Democrats: Useless fuckwits
Greens: Inbred useless fuckwits
literally almost (if not all) all your political parties are fucking leftist and Fine Gael is just economically right with the most leftist social policies you fucktard also why are aren't you responding to this>>53825033 because we could have solved this issue you retarded bootlicker
It's sad that they let people with learning disabilities post online. Tell me, why does the republic of Ireland out-rank the UK in PISA, the OECD rankings for academic achievement in schools? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programme_for_International_Student_Assessment#2012
I'm talking exclusively Northern Ireland, you spastic. That's why I said "Northern Ireland" and not "The UK". The same Northern Ireland that outranks every country in the UK in GCSEs and A-levels and is among the best primary school education in the world. You're right about letting spastics post online though. Should let your carer know that you shouldn't be allowed access.
>tfw no Identity Ireland TD for Louth
Actually, do they even still exist or did they vanish after a week of existence?
That simply isn't true. We have two main parties, finna fail and fine gael. Both of these are center right, for example both ae anti-abortion. These two parties have been in power, taking turns, since Independence. We are objectively more right wing than you. We have never had a leftist government, not a single time. Prove me wrong.
I'm not responding to bootlicker because what the fuck do you want me to say? I like Britain, I won't apologise for it. You and the other poser can go fuck yourselves.
I'm with you
They do still exist, but they're having trouble gaining momentum. Mark my words, if Sinn Féin get in and fuck everything up we'll see a swing back to the right and hopefully then it'll be our time
Oh anons, I don't want this warfare with you, just admit that you're talking out of your asses and all is forgiven! Now you must be able to decipher my point about PISA, which is that the catholic population being segregated cannot possibility be responsible for NI's educational superiority, given that the ROI is itself superior to the entire UK. Maybe Irish blood is just superior, intellectually speaking? That is what the data suggest.
yeah that's why they supported gay marriage and being anti abortion doesn't make you non-leftist and finna fail literary has a gay minister and fine gael gave support to the gay vote and I will give you fucking links on all of that shit
>which is that the catholic population being segregated cannot possibility be responsible for NI's educational superiority
The only people who vote Sinn Féin are scumbags from council estates and border lads who think they're in the IRA. Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael are a cert to get more seats than Sinn Féin. Personally I hope Fine Gael get a majority since they did a good job. My only real problem with them was that they campaigned for a yes vote in the marriage referendum
The Irish population did support gay marriage, but I don't think they were wrong in doing so, neither was the British government. Freedom of association is a right for anyone, if you don't believe in that you're just an authoritarian, not a conservative.
>My only real problem with them was that they campaigned for a yes vote in the marriage referendum
They only did that to try and get popularity/save face after the whole Irish Water shitstorm
I never said I was a Christian. I never said I wasn't either. I made statements of the general Irish population, which is vastly culturally Catholic. Also, I invite you to drink some of my delicious semen.
Fastest growing economy in Europe m8. Austerity works and I'm working class. Why aren't most people willing to put up with shitter living standards of living if it benefits everyone in the long run? Is everyone that selfish and short sighted?
Except you don't seem to comprehend he is pro immigration cuck more refugees more slums with more on benifets = our money going into the pockets of a growing influx of refugees which causes a vicious cycle
Fine Gael will get the biggest share of seats, but in the end Fiana Fail will be in power with a coalition of other parties and independents.
Thee latest budget FG tried to buy the election but sure this happens every 15 or so years.
FF go in, everythings good for a bit, things go wrong, change to FG, things get better, change to FF. Rinse repeat.
The only difference is the smaller parties who enter into coalition with the two big boys.
They just get ate up and shat out the other side, be it Labour, PD's etc maybe renua this time round.
Things ain't really that bad though. We are the skanky whore of europe who will sleep with whoever buys us the nicest present.
If it isn't europe we'll move closer to the U.K. if not U.K. then america, if not america then china.
So you're a republican in the north? Ok I think I get it. It's a shit deal you guys get, but it's not the UK's fault, and the republic frankly doesn't give a shit about you. I'm not trying to be an asshole, but you kind of get told that we're the motherland, but we give no fucks for you at all.
As a people, we've dealt with this situation very badly, we should never have allowed the troubles to happen, we should have followed O'Connell and pushed for home rule. So much bloodshed would have been spared if we had used democracy instead of uprising. Look at how PC the UK is today, they are terrified of being racist against anyone. Ireland would have gotten a terrific deal if we'd stayed in the union. Instead we didn't, and we got the civil war, the economic war with Britain, the troubles and several recessions to boot. I think the whole thing is a terrible waste.