Hiro, are you here? Can we get a board for Japanese games only please? /v/ is really bad these days because of Westkeks who love casual dudebro garbage, "cinematic experiences" and e-celeb cancer. Another split would benefit us a lot and cut down the shitposting to a minimum.
I like games that have good gameplay and I don't disregard games with an anime aesthetic if they have that unlike the shallow dudebro casuals obsessed with CoD and Halo. This is why I think Western games are shit; because it's very rare to see one that has good gameplay these days.
Nah it would be disastrous. Stop trying to break 4chan in multiple general boards. It only serves to hinder discussion where you can talk about a particular subject on the main board because there is a dedicated board on this subject.
>I like games that have good gameplay
And yet you can't stop sucking the dick of absolutely fecal matter like Nier and Drakengard, Persona and SMT...
Such great games right. Keep telling yourself you play them for any reasons but the anime aesthetics
And what do you play those WRPGs that play like absolute ass for? At least JRPGs have some good exceptions to the rule like Gravity Rush, Monster Hunter series, the Souls series, Ys Celceta, Tales, Soul Sacrifice, Dragon's Dogman, etc. Meanwhile, I can't think of a single WRPG that isn't the most clunky shit imaginable. I couldn't even stand playing Skyrim or Fallout for more than a few hours because of the combat.
Unique gameplay =/= good gameplay
MH is good, but it's hampered by sloth like progression when you should just be taking down new monsters the whole time rather than grinding because your weapon can no longer keep up the damage to not time out
Ys & Souls series has absolute dogshit gameplay, don't kid yourself
Tales hasn't been good in years. Dragons Dogma is one I'll concede
Haven't played the other two because I don't have a Shita
>meanwhile I can't think of a single WRPG
That's probably because you are totally braindead. They are a bit thin on the ground now, but there's years, and years of quality WRPGs
>Unique gameplay =/= good gameplay
Action RPGs from Japan always have better gameplay than WRPGs. This is a fact.
>Ys & Souls series has absolute dogshit gameplay
I could understand criticizing Souls (even though the gameplay is still miles better than any WRPG out there), but Ys Celceta having "absolute dogshit gameplay"? Sorry, your opinion is discarded, my friend.
>That's probably because you are totally braindead. They are a bit thin on the ground now, but there's years, and years of quality WRPGs
With good gameplay? Okay. Try to list me any. Even the most praised ones like Deus Ex, Planescape Torment and Morrowind play like garbage. Even the fans of those games admit it.
You're not helping the case by insulting Western games, OP.
The most legitimate reason to split /v/ into /jv/ and /wv/ is that /v/ is too big, and dividing by western/japanese is simply the best way to do it. Despite all the previous splits, /v/ is still too big. The shitposting can't be stopped. However, it can be separated. Another board will also mean more staff. Yes, a lot of staff seem to be shit, but I'm sure that most of them (or at least some) are actually decent.
In the beginning, /jv/ will shitpost on /wv/, and vice-versa, but the staff just needs to be harsh on it. They don't have to go full totalitarian when it comes to the rules; only on "All discussion/shitposting on /jv/ or /wv/ must be about each board's respective games" or however it'll be phrased. If mods and jannies are dedicated enough, in the beginning, the cross-shitposting will fade away. People will get bored, and will return to regular shitposting.
>the best solution to mods being shitty is to make another anime hugbox and encourage the mods to treat it as another of their little playgrounds
please fucking kill yourself and go back to reddit, in that order
How about just leave /v/ for Nipponese shit and make /vw/ for Western shit?
Either way I'm not really on board of this idea since /v/ already got split 3 times without much improvement. This will just make /v/ a Sony Nintendo playground.
The problem is the intense amount of shitposting done by Nintendo fanboys. They're quite hated on /v/ now for being the cause of console wars since they pretend to be mustards and shitpost in PS4 threads. Some accuse the moderation of moderating in Nintendo's favor.
I don't think it's much different on Nintendo threads' end. There's plenty of NINTENDOOMED and Sonyposting too. Are you sure it's not just neutral falseflagging shitposters trying to rile both ends up?
They also need to change the moderation. Shitposting threads go on for 400 pages untouched while similar shitposting threads for a console preferred by mods get deleted within seconds.
>Are you sure it's not just neutral falseflagging shitposters trying to rile both ends up?
Who would do that? Either way, the mods should treat all type of shitposting as the same instead of just deleting Nintendo shitposting threads while leaving Sony shitposting threads alone.
It's obvious the moderation is biased heavily to Nintendo's favor.
How? The only thing killing /v/ was the ebonics, which is better now.
That and ecelebs/sjw/feminism shit.
>Honestly believing either board would benefit from removing one or the other
Also how far would you go with it? Mario games are made in Japan. Are you going to include all sony games as well? Any game at all made in Japan?
That's completely fucking retarded.
What /v/ needs an opening post robot. I don't give a shit about Western vs. Eastern, the problem is the constantly regurgitated threads that don't have any clear point of discussion.
>why is this allowed
>what did he mean by this
Also, why do Idolmaster threads get deleted on /v/? I can spot five shitposting threads any time of the hour yet the moment and Idolmaster thread pops up and it's deleted within seconds.
Why do /v/ mods hate anime games?
Well in all fairness these threads were at 2 different timeframes. I'd be convinced if they were both made around the same time. Night /v/ is covered with garbage threads without moderation for hours.
>It sounds like the better way would be separating console and PC gaming
That'd just be duplicating a lot of discussion and/or splitting the fans of any multiplat game.
It's not a boy (I don't think so, anyway). I just saved it as that to bait people.
This is the /v/ cancer incarnate. Look at this faggot, using "weebshit" unironically on a weeb site made by weebs for weebs. This is why /v/ is in a dire need of a cleansing. It has become normie magnet number one.
And why is that? Why is the only Bloodborne thread on /v/ one that says it's coming to PC? Just like yesterday? Just like the day before yesterday? Mods aren't even trying to salvage that shit.
/v/ here, go die in a fire.
Splitting a board is not a bad idea by itself but not like this.
>Nintendo and Sony are japanese
>But they have western dev studios like Retro Studios and Insomniac
Where I am supposed to discuss Tropical Freeze or Metroid and Ratchet and Clank?
>western video games board
>japanese video games board
Doesn't work, Metal Gear, Dark Souls, and a ton of other games would be up on both boards since western fags don't know shit about vidya.
I just don't think /v/ should be split up more. Just add and enforce some rules like no "60 vs 30 fps" or "E-Celeb" threads. And ban all "never ever PC keks" and "thanks for beta testing console peasants" shit posters.
A good way to fix /v/ would be to ban people like you.
I generally prefer japanese games but your faggotry is exactly what killed /v/.
We need to crack down on console wars, samefags, general shit tier flamebait and all the other faggotry that plagues the board.
IDs would help. More actives mods would help too. A userbase that reports garbage would help a LOT.
Why is there no sticky on /v/? Its clear that most dont know the actual 4chan rules and how you get the mods attention.
jap board would be made entirely of 15 year olds and neckbeards discussing their waifu and zero gameplay discussion. I like to discuss some games indepth like SF or Souls and waifufags are stupid as shit.
>Why is there no sticky on /v/?
Holy shit, this. I see many boards were there is a red letters sticky that lists the rules. But /v/ looks like a board forgotten by gods and mods.
Pushing out eCelebs and off topic shit would be a great idea.
What's to stop people who normally prefer western games to discuss games like the Souls series on /jv/? Do you think they would just stay on the western board? No, they would come to /jv/ to discuss the few jap games they did like.
I just want to be able to talk about videogames.
It's not about the insults. The problem is it evolved to a giant shitposting thread where both sides are flinging insults instead of actually talking about the god damn game.
>Split by dev; not by publisher.
So, if I make a thread on the japanese board about Metroid, I can talk about all the games except the Prime ones, otherwise I'd be banned?
And if I make a Metroid thread in the western board, I'd be forced to talk about only Prime games?
This is beyond stupid.
>want to talk about MGSV so I go to /vj/
>mention MGO in my post
>get banned because MGO was made by a western studiio
>go into metroid thread
>mention metroid prime: hunters
>mention metroid prime
Moot was both right and wrong about that.
Sure, you talk about videogames.
That takes care of the offtopic shit.
Now what about console wars and other videogame related shitposting?
What about the general post quality?
What about the samefagging niggers posting their same stale shit every hour?
>you can talk about anime related video games on /v/ and /a/
Too bad every single "anime related videogame" thread on /v/ is against the rules, since everyone talks about the anime itself and not the videogame of the anime.
Same could be said of plenty of western games.
Persona has an upcoming game, so people are taking about it and the series in general. Neptunia releases games quite frequently.
Fallout 4 is coming out soon, so there are tons of threads about it. MGS has threads every day too.
We don't need eceleb threads every day either but here we are, knee deep in the shit.
>there is literally no reason to talk about games I don't like
Modern /v/ everyone. People bitching about games discussed are often NeoFaggers upset that people like more than just tumblr bait.
You see like one xbox thread every two days on /v/ at best.
Xbox has no audience on /v/. Its extremely western focused and people who like western games gravitate towards PC already.
At least on /v/, where people prefer to play their spess muhreen shooters with keyboard and mouse.
It also really doesnt help that the Xbox brand has been a publicity nightmare for a long time now.
Thats the last response you're getting from me you shitposting faggot.
See? Look at this thread's last posts. This is how /v/ is. Every day, every hour, infinite shitflinging between retarded fanboys, arguing who is the worst when they are all equally stupid.
See this shit? This is one of the reasons /v/ has and always will be shit. For some unfathomable reason people cant get a 'stop liking what I dont like' mentality out of their fucking heads and have just spewed the same shit like this for years.
Assuming you arent shitposting for the sake of shitposting, what the fuck do you retards getting out of any of this? It sure as shit isnt video game discussion.
NeoFag hates anything Japanese. They shitpost in FF threads all the time and they always bitch how Jap devs are pedophiles. This is why people who whine about "weebshit" on /v/ are regarded as NeoFaggers. It's the same bullshit.
Are you somehow implying you arent shitposting right now and that you're somehow better than them? I hate all of you faggots equally, its unbearable just how childish anything that devoles into brand loyalty is. Consider suicide.
Why don't you just ignore the games that don't appeal to you instead of acting like a drama whore NeoFagger? Literally nobody cares about your opinions. Nobody makes a Senran thread for you to voice your opinion.
Who says that I'm a brand loyalist?
I'm just saying it how it is. Sonyggers are objectively the worst shitposters on /v/.
And thats not a shitpost, thats a pretty fucking on point observation.
The only thing to do is bringing more moderation. Isn't /v/ like one of the most active boards on 4chan? More activity means need of more moderation. There are hours on /v/ where there are no mods or janitors around, where shitposters dump NSFW and furry shit non stop.
They hate Japanese devs. They always shit on Japanese devs no matter what. And shitting on Destiny will net you a ban since one of the mods is a Bungie shill.
/v/'s moderation exists. It's just that it's selective and very often also faulty. Nintendo shitposting threads are deleted very fast. PS4 shitposting threads last until bump limit is hit. Waifu threads get deleted within seconds.
Mods exist. It's just that they don't know how to moderate.
Why should I ignore them? Didnt know that people only care about circlejerking.
I'm not satisfied with the direction japanese games are heading into, and I will not stop talking about that until things change.
Also Senran threads are shit. Nothing but softcore dumps and waifu posting. No gameplay discussion ever. Its pretty much offtopic.
I definitely dont participate in that garbage.
Garbage like NSFW and furry is the least of /v/'s problems. Just look at this thread. It's "discussion" like this 24/7. Nobody in that board can just agree to disagree.
FF14 has dedicated spammers.
At some point it got so bad that they actually entered every other MMO thread just to shit it up and advertise their game.
Mods actually started deleting the threads because it was clearly general material and the posters were obnoxious as fuck.
I guess they arent getting deleted now because its not as extreme anymore.
And for some reason CoD threads have been much more popular lately. People dont shit onto the game as much as they should anymore.
Thats pretty fucking stupid. You're like one of those retards who bought hatred to "show those SJWs".
>Why should I ignore them?
Do you want people in your threads always shitposting how they don't like the game? You come off as self-centered, thinking your opinion is hot shit. It's not. Nobody asked for your input. When someone makes a Senran thread or FF thread, they're not looking for you to enter it and publically display your opinions. Nobody cares.
Fuck off if you can't deal with niche weeb games being talked about. The fact that you think that's the "direction" Jap games are taking displays a NeoFagger-tier paranoia that has no understanding that these type of games have always existed.
Thanks for posting though. Proves everyone's point why /v/ needs to cull the normies who shitpost in Jap game threads.
This has become /v/ in a nutshell. Most people posting are cross-posters from NeoFag or Reddit.
>"yeah, the outfits for the main cast look pretty damn great from what I recall. "
>"hope the game gets different versions of their black uniforms, at least... level 1 version, level 99 version, winter weather version, beach volleyball version, whatever. i'm ok with the design style if we got some variety and progress out of that general 'style'"
>"Shirtless basketball minigame in FF XV confirmed! Featuring Cindy as a secret unlock!"
Wow all of that hate. The only hate I'm seeing is people wanting more Fantasy-esque armor or clothing like previous FFs.
I am not interested in your completely wrong observation of the japanese games market.
I will also not stop voicing my opinions.
Shouting Neogaf or normies at anybody who disagrees with you wont accomplish change this.
Its also not shitposting just because someone disagrees with you.
If anything offtopic softcore porn dumps are what you could call shitposts.
Keep on reading. They're all mocking the director for being clueless. Meanwhile you get banned for shitting on any aspect of Destiny since one of the NeoFAG mods is a literal Destiny shill. NeoFag is infamous for pushing western shit.
>I will also not stop voicing my opinions.
Calm down NeoFag. I'm saying your opinion has no weight. You're acting like a child, thinking your opinions matter. They don't. For someone who makes a Senran thread, your opinions won't change their minds. They'll just think you a retard for attempting to derail their threads.
>If anything offtopic
>anime videogame image thread on an anime weeaboo imagesite
You keep proving yourself clueless and a NeoFagger. Good job.
Listen up, there are Neofags posting on /v/ but your paranoia is reaching the critical mass.
Chill down and shut up.
>"the outfits are fine. Just let me change the colours to tell people apart."
>"I don't mind the cast's designs(like facial and hair design) though they would be a lot more unique with the two female characters shown as part of the crew but the thing that I dislike is their outfits. Like, the all black thing already makes them less diverse(really? They couldn't do black with other colors to seperate their design?) and then the outfits don't look great either. Noctis's original design was far more interesting and the others just look okay, with only two looking better than their original design."
>"I think their outfits are awesome. I like that they have style, even if it's unrealistic for battle. It doesn't bother me :)"
Looking at a Destiny thread now:
>"Because they make bad decisions. Same reason why supers are allowed in PvP and exotic weapons.
>"It's dumb that there is anything that you could play privately with friends that doesn't also allow matchmaking. There is absolutely no logic for being against it, since it would only effect those that want it."
>"Raiding in Destiny is nowhere near the complexity of MMO raids like found in WoW and such. They could have easily put in a playlist matchmaking feature for those who want it. Really no reason why they can't, as those hardcore are going to play in organized groups and not use matchmaking. Even the so called complex MMOs now have group finder raiding options even."
Blaming Neogaf for everything is silly by the way, but pretending they don't shitpost on /v/ is way more silly.
memes transcend space and time.
I think its weird that people expect communities to have absolutely no overlap.
Whats weirder is that I, someone who has absolutely no interest in visiting reddit or neogaf have to read about those places on 4chan all the time because people go berserk when others steal their memes.
Retards who shout Reddit and Neogaf 24/7 are some of the worst cancer on the board.
When people act like bitches on 4chan then thats not a reddit or neogaf thing, thats a local problem. And that should also be solved locally.
Loss is pretty widespread across the internet. I'm pretty sure webcomic forums like Penny Arcade blew up when it was first released and a shitload of artists started their own parodies. I don't know if Gaf was part of it, but Buckley hate isn't exclusive to /v/ in the slightest.
The best webcomic in the world was making fun of loss for multiple years.
He made like at least two loss comics every month, and then some more extra punchlines.
Loss was a pretty big deal back then. And generally everybody did way better parodies than 4chan.
The /v/ loss.jpg shit is actually terrible meme tier trash.
To the mod/janitor who keeps deleting shitposts about "weebshit": thanks. It's not as good as splitting the board, but it's something.
Nobody "discusses" anything in weebgame threads, it's literally all waifufaggotry.
>who do you think is best Nep?
>I love Riesen!
>I want Chie to fart on my face desu
Literally every JRPG thread ever.
/v/ just needs a sticky saying
>No repeat threads
>No obvious shitposting
Give a 15min ban for anyone who breaks the sticky and a day ban for anyone who says PCfat, Sonygger, kek, etc or posts those shitty /tv/ memes
Take a look at Skyrim, The Witcher and Mass Effect and Dragon Age threads on /vg/ sometime, Westkek. You don't even realize that it was your precious WRPGs that started with the dating sim shit despite criticizing Persona all the time for it.
>/v/ needs that
>/v/ needs this
You're just revealing your own newfaggotry, idiots. /v/ is as serviceable as it's been in years.
And even if not - like /b/, you really shouldn't provoke the hornet's nest.
/v/ is at the worst point it has been in years. Back then we didn't have Redditors and NeoGaf fags invading, but now we do and they won't leave.
We have got to fix this massive problem, and while I agree with >>322242 it simply won't work because the underage faggots will ignore the sticky. I hate to say it, but we might need a split at this point
>/v/ is at the worst point it has been in years
It really, really isn't.
I'd like you to take a screencap of the /v/ catalog and circle all the threads you consider bad or shitposting. Give some examples of what you think are "good" threads, for good measure.
What if opening posts couldn't contain greentext?
The board's been split enough. I'm having to straddle three goddamn boards already. Enough is enough.
We don't need to split the board at all, we just need better moderation. "Cute video game girl thread", "Trap thread", "Console war thread", all of these do not belong on /v/. /v/ is your biggest board besides /b/, I really think that you have to focus a bit more of your attention there.
Also just wanted to say really good job on the most recent wordfilters that you've added. Really cleaned the entire site up with baka desu sempai.
Hiroyuki, there's a growing trend of people coming to /v/ who don't have any intention of talking about video games, but rather talk about celebrities who gain their fame through the internet.
A vidya culture board where such things can be taken would be a godsend.
That being said, OP is talking nonsense about Japanese vs Western game divide, both have co-existed on /v/ for years without any issues
We would discuss things in /v/ if your power hungry little dick eating mods didn't keep deleting every thread about it.
How about this; you pull your kids into line, we'll tell you how to fix your shitty site.
/v/ has been split too many times as is.
>/vg/, longer discussions for specific games
>/vp/, strictly one video game franchise
>/vr/, strictly for discussing games from ages past
>/jp/, an abomination of /a/ and /v/ if they were one board
Three and a half splits is enough. /v/ is already fractured as it is, and further splitting will just encourage more toxic behavior.
>/vw/ and /ve/ created, Vidya West and Vidya East
>/ve/ spams waifu threads on /vw/, /vw/ spams "muh superior graphix" and similar insults on /ve/
>Literally no worse than /mlp/ was with /v/ when it first came about
It would be a horrible, HORRIBLE choice to split even more.
splitting by west and jap I feel would do more damage then good, but something should be done about the e-celeb garbage and console war non-sense. Having 6 threads pop up about the same game also really doesn't help, rule enforcement might help.
I've been coming to this site for more than 10 years
/v/ has deteriorated over the years but it was never ever so bad where every thread is just shitposting on top of more shitposting , even when we had generals fill up the first page we still had some discussions here and there but now you have to almost dig under the dirt to find threads that feel like they were not made to get a quick reaction or two.
honestly I'll put it like this
In my entire decade+ time on this site I will open one tab for /v/ , one for /a/ and another for /g/. Now I'll open one tab for /a/ , /g/ , /sp/ , /v/.
Moot split up /v/ years ago because people were unhappy with games like Starcraft or MOBAs. /vg/ was a direct response to how these games had too many threads.
The thing is, we really don't need /v/ to be split up again. /vg/ only happened because we did not have thread management controls or tracking systems like the catalog. Now that we have those today, it doesn't make sense to keep dividing up the board. If you split it off again, it will only make it worse since people will shitpost even more about how something doesn't belong in /v/.
What the board needs the most is good moderators that understand when to get rid of a thread and when not to.
Have some form of an online culture board instead. It's a good place for the game lets plays to be rather than filling up the board with ecelebs, among other things such as camwhores, console wars, feminist shit, etc.
>something needs to be done about the SJW bait, twitter screencap and e-celeb threads
Just delete it.
A Internet Culture board would be fantastic, all the shitposting about E-celebs goes there because there isn't really a board for it.
stuff like Jontron, DSP, Game Grumps could go there as well as threads for stuff like Youtubers while it's enforced not to post about that stuff in /v/
Please split /v/ into /sony/, /nintendo/ and /microsoft/. The shitposting is unbearable, every time a new game gets announced everyone loses their shit and discussion about the game becomes impossible because of either exclusivity or people laughing at others.
Enforce bans on stuff which has nothing to do with video games and their production.
I do not give a hoot about Anita Sarkeesian, Brian Who or whoever.
Them being mentioned or simply posted usually results in any thread being derailed.
They are used as thinly veiled excuses for flame bait at this point.
I believe that they, as well as other social media related posts or topics which have little in common with video games, should be treated as such.
Do not split /v/ again. It has happened enough with /vg/,/vp/, and /vr/, and it would fucking suck.
If we are making another board, we just need a Sonygger quarantine board. Outside of that, more mods and the ability to report these fucking transparent shill threads that keep coming up. Moot went full jew and removed the option to report advertising and we need it back.
Merge /v/ and /vg/ back together, fuck separatist reddit cocksuckers.
Prove you are not a kek like your predecessor and admit there's literally no fucking reason for these two boards to exist separately.
/v/ is the place to discuss video games. Period.
We only have /vg/ because some games become so popular and long standing they would generate dozens a threads that would be constantly bumped the entire day and night. Clogging up the first 3 pages with nothing but 1 game being discussed over and over.
Hell we already have a fucking retro /v/ which honestly we did not need.
We don't need a fucking West/East game divide. It is just silly at that point.
Thanks for /aco/ though Mootwo. That board has a real purpose because /h/ /d/ /e/ /cm/ and /u/ had a no Western policy. Meaning a huge amount of content was restricted. There was and is and will not be a need for a jap game only board.
Please ban mobile phone users. It will suck for some people but it's very easy to ban evade using mobile phones and they cause a lot of problems with poor quality posting.
We don't need two boards, we want to stay together as a community.
When was the last time you saw a console exclusive thread that didn't evolve into complete shitposting? How many 'never ever' threads were there for GTAV? How many 'console peasants BTFO' threads were there after the PC announcement? It doesn't work. It's not only begging, it's complete fucking console wars.
Please dont split /v/, while the board has to deal with a lot of topics, most of them are fads or just discussions of recent games and news that eventually die down. One of the reason people go there is that you get informed about video games and anything about it in a quick snap.
Please dont split /v/.
That's the user's fault then. I know, it sucks to report half a thread, but if janny is summoned they can either prune the thread or delete it entirely. As more bans get issued for port begging, fewer people will try their luck. It doesn't even need to be an exclusive. I've noticed that it's almost impossible to talk about ps4/vita multiplats that aren't on pc without port begging. Because a few games get ported, people think that gives them a license to derail threads about gameplay discussion. Port begging has no place on any board and really should be a bannable offense.
How do you know that for certain? /a/ is pretty much just anime and just the popular manga so I don't see how a board for the lesser known stuff could be bad. Besides, the whole point of a trial board is to test the waters, if it actually makes shit worse then it can be removed just as easily as it was added.
You don't need a mobile phone to evade bans. This is just some shitty copypasta people post because they get triggered by "image.jpg". They should be getting serious professional help instead of spamming nonsense.
Please. Split /v/. For the love of God and all that is holy.
Split it up into /vj/ and /vw/, or /vn/, /vs/, /vm/ and /vc/ for all I care. Just split up things and make them less condensed.
Do not split /v/. It has been split 3 times already. It does not need anymore new boards. /v/ still has very good discussion of certain games, all we need is new moderators and for them to actually care about the board.
Companies love to advertise on /v/, we need better moderation! More mods, less user splitting, please!
Right now /v/ is fine, It has been split up many times already, and the filter is literally saving the board, god bless you for that.
If anything, you should make sure the janitors stop deleting threads that aren't going against the rules/board culture. Right now it seems they are deleting threads willy-nilly.
There was some thread about homosexual characters in games a few days back and it got into some actual quality videogame discussion for once instead of shitposting, and talked about good gay characters and some examples of them and other gay characters that were clearly just shoehorned in, but some mod deleted it.
Saw a /v/ingo thread get deleted too some time back.
It seems to be really bad between 8am-4pm PST especially.
If anything were to be changed with it, it might be nice to do a test run of the unique poster id for 24 hours thing that some other boards have, just to spot all the shills and false flaggers for a while, but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to have forever. /v/ has some weird problem with brand loyalty instead of just playing videogames.
If you have any intention of splitting anything off again. >>322433 Listen to this anon. Intstead of discussing games, some days half the threads on the board are discussing other people playing games.
Look Hiro, most of us like you and all, but don't split /v/. /aco/ was a good call to separate western-style art from the standard eastern, but doing the same for /v/ will cause a rupture and possibly result in less discussion and probably more ban [spoiler]though I doubt people will care about getting banned.[/spoiler] We have /vp/, /vr/, and /vg/, so what good will a /vjp/ do?
If you're not already gone.
Can you make a /jpv/ board?
It would be a nice change of pace from hearing ''lol weebshit'' all day.
Make some sort of current events/celeb/SJW/GG type board. The problem on /v/ isn't west vs east, it's shit about YouTube personalities and bitching about social justice in games that needs to go. Have stricter moderation. "LOL" webcomic threads that have nothing to do with /v/ should go as well. Just make a board called VIDEO GAMES about video games. Splitting what little content we have left will not help. It will only make the problem exist on two new boards.
Splitting the board is a stupid idea, it's been done THREE times already (/vr/, /vg/, and /vp/), and /v/ is still shit. Any board with so many users is going to be shit, even if you split the board in half it'd still be too big/fast.
The overwhelming majority of which are anime. It's okay to have subjects on multiple boards. /m/ being slower helps people single out older mecha shows. For instance, you don't see a lot of fafner on /a/ even though it's airing this season. /m/ allows mecha anime specifically to be examined more easily. /a/ overlaps with lots of boards. That doesn't mean /v/ should be split, but I like the hamfisted approach of old. Everything stays on /v/, untranslated games can also be posted on /jp/.
to all "muh three splits" fags
how does this matter when /v/ still manages to remain one of the most popular boards on here which is to a significant part caused by plebbitors visiting /v/ and shitting up things for the sake of being able to
we need splits
Ban posting from mobile clients on /v/ and other 'problem' boards with shitposting problems. It sucks but I'm sure that EPIC post you wanted to make can wait until you get home/you're at your PC.It's just to easy to ban evade and shitpost from mobile, they need to be regined in or get banished.
That and figure out a way to reliably ban, because whatever has been done thus far is wholly ineffective and trivial to bypass. If you're gonna permaban someone, make it stick, dont slap them on the wrist and then look the other way as the idiot sneaks back in 5 minutes later through the door you just threw his ass out of.
Normalfags always try to ruin every Japanese games threads by calling them weebshit and derailling the whole thread into west vs east.
Make the mods ban these people or split the board.
There was a reoccurring thread shilling a /v/ group for an mmo not too long ago
The threads always derail into shitposting and die before 50 posts
With the amounts of threads they're making, they should just be posting in the game's general on /vg/, but they constantly detest the idea
I think there needs to be a "strict /v/" where any sort of shit posting gets you permabanned from strict /v/. Five years ago /v/ was awesome and there was no "this game is bad lol" three months before the game even comes out.
Hiro just split the board up, doesn't matter /v/'s opinion, they don't know what they want. And they will accept it once you do it.
If it doesn't work you can just bring /v/ back. We don't lose anything from trying a trial board!
Those people won't go away just because the board was split, there might be less of it, but people will go to the east vidya board just for the sake of calling the games weebshit and shit up more threads.
It would also be unbalanced with /v/ leaning more nintendo these days.
I think it's crucial to clean up the drama threads, like the current labzero indivisible threads, there's been at least 10 made alone today and they're nothing but ranting and lies about sjw boogeymen. It's autismal, and despite it centered around vidya, it's not vidya. An eceleb board wouldn't fix this garbage either. How can you not discuss what the director said about their game when talking vidya? It's the spun out /pol/ autism destroying the discussion. Maybe a vidya poltics contamination board?
>Hiro tells us to discuss it on /v/
>people are significantly more pro-split on /v/ than here
You know what this means, Hiro. Split the board. Contain the Westkeks to another board.
You weren't on /v/ in 2010-2012 then, you newfag piece of shit. You've never seen the front page with at least 6-7 offtopic threads at a time before.
You are an idiot. /vg/ is long term discussion about a single videogame in general, just because you see people aren't arguing in /v/ doesn't mean they're reddit.
I assume you weren't on /v/ during the generals era as well.
You're part of /v/'s problem.
Anyone that has actually been around for a long time, and has seen what splitting has done, can tell you right now that splitting it again will just ruin it. It's not a good idea at all.
>How do you know that for certain?
The obvious question is wut do when there's an ongoing manga also getting an anime adaptation? Can that be cleanly resolved?
I also just see it being one of the most broken and disjointed boards possible. Pretty much any anime gets subs these days (unless it's an OVA to a niche or unpopular series) but a manga getting a thread depends on if someone is translating it, and the whims of how well and how often they do. For example Instant Bullet didn't have any threads for months and now it has threads fairly regularly now because the translation is moving along. And so we have a board with topics that can just suddenly die because there's no new accessible content coming out, a board that will suddenly and unceremoniously pick up again if translations get going, and a board where the userbase who can read Japanese will be miles ahead in knowledge of the material to anyone else just because they can read what others can't, not really an issue with most anime.
I just don't think it'll end up being pretty. True, it's hard to get threads going on /a/ for some more lesser known titles but that applies to anime too. And who's to say lesser known manga will have threads that can survive on a manga board either? It's not guaranteed just because the board is slower. Slower boards have threads of one kind or another that die out without a single reply all the time.
Glad somebody said it. le greedy rubbing hands man wasn't even posted that often after /news/ was deleted, then when /pol/ was back the shit skyrocketed to like the second most posted image on /v/.
/mlp/: cut and dry, easy to spot, easy to moderate
/pol/: could be literally anything, next to impossible to moderate, with a shitty infectious board culture to boot
The problem with fusing /jp/ and a potential vidya-japan is that would include nintendo discussion making the board MASSIVE. There is indeed a fair bit of crossover, like miku threads or many of the more niche games, like on vita, and comiket would get way more eyeballs, but it would be a mess and /jp/ doesn't deserve to be punished like that. Plus mobile discussions would probably cause friction...
I wasn't saying turn /jp/ into /jpv/. /jp/ needs to be its own board. I was proposing that we need a japanese video game board separate from /v/ and /jp/.
And there's mobage threads on /vg/ so I don't really see it as a problem unless people just vehemently hate mobage games.
No no no. You are coming at this ass backwards. Splintering the boards more and more simply means an escalation to shitposting.
People shitpost for fun or for memeing or because they are newfags or actually think it is cool and natural to shitpost.
You give each and every little fucking sub-topic of overall vidya and you will have people coming in specifically to troll those boards and threads because they know there is a concentrated population that will fite me faget.
My sources are 9 years of 4chan and being a regular posting in over 30 /vg/ threads on top of /b/ and /v/ before captcha.
A more intense and larger moderation policy is the best answer since most people to arrive in the last 3 years don't even know what the fuck an IP address is or how to avoid bans.
I agree. We should also make a Nintendo board, a Sony board, a "vidya gossip" board, a PC board, a Steam board, a video game culture board. Make also a board for portable consoles, and specific boards for genre, too.
Truly absolutely nothing will go wrong with this.
/v/ shitposter here, please don't split it into two boards, because then you'd just have two shitposting boards
/v/ is the second largest general containment board after /b/
[not counting /pol/ and /mlp/ because they're meant to contain certain other shitposters]
HIRO listen to this guy, these are the main problems with /v/, as well as marketers.
also make me a mod I've been on /v/ since 2001
At the moment, /v/ is a place where a bunch of people who don't like each other are forced to co-exist and attempt to discuss their favorite game or platform while dealing with shitposters.
Make a board for PC gaming and a board for Console gaming. Would fix a lot of problems.
I can't deny that threads only happen for translated manga, and that manga translations are much more uncertain than anime, but I don't think that means we shouldn't have it at all. I just think that manga is one of the biggest part of the Japanese culture some of us go to this board for and that it's silly that it doesn't have it's own board when boards like /m/ and /jp/ exist when I feel that what they cover isn't as important to the culture that manga is.
/v/ has been split three times now, and regular video game discussion suffers from it. /vr/ is a wasteland, /vg/ suffers from threads that are concentrated boards/cultures in and of themselves, making for a terrible experience in nearly every thread, and /vp/ is okay if only because it contains a few undesirable types, but even then you could just make a Pokemon general on /vg/ for that.
/v/ doesn't need to be split by east or west. Just give /v/ ID's. Or disallow mobile posting.
Split it into Video Game Culture and Video Games.
Ignore the fags asking for boards dedicated to companies.
Why would you split up Japanese games and Western games into two different boards. That's beyond dumb considering the content of /v/ consisting of them both since forever. Could you imagine an E3 sticky with two different groups of retards splitting up discussion depending on the country of origin of the videogame?
Please don't split up /v/ into more boards. It's more trouble than it's worth especially when splitting up the board between western and japanese games is a way bigger split than something like vidya and say pokemon.
Fuse every /v/ board and add some proper moderation. The splits were made because moot was an useless cunt that didn't like the idea of having good mods. Hence why he decided to get rid of really competent staff like Anonymous-san and Anonymous of Colombia.
hey, considering pretty much everyone's gonna read this thread
I've posted in my fair share of e-celeb threads before and it's pretty clear this isn't the place to discuss them
why can't we just, like, have a giant skype group to talk about them all instead? it's pretty obvious that most of /v/ hates it when we talk about totalbiscuit or zoe quinn or literally anyone else
it's obviously a topic of conversation that people want to partake in, but 4chan isn't really the place because there aren't enough to justify an /ecl/ board
just gonna put that out there
Can you do something about /r9k/ and /tv/'s endless shitposting crusade on /v/ along with its nonexistent moderation?
Literally two days ago there was a thread of a gangbang webm as the OP that got to like 300 posts.
There's way too many of these shitty "What is a videogame where I can [not vidya shit]" threads.
Plus all these shitty eceleb threads need to get dumped into the ground.
We already have:
Clearly we need to split /v/ further into:
/av/ "adult videogames", for non-worksafe videogames, and porn.
/vw/ for western video games
/vjp/ for japanese video games
/vi/ for indie video games
/vk/ for korean video games
/vs/ for video games from eastern europe (slavs)
/trap/ for Steam Friends threads.
The most retarded idea in this thread thus far.
Better make a /sh/-sony handheld, /sc/- sony console, /nc/-nintendo console, /nh/ nintendo handheld boards along with that too you fucking faggot.
Splitting /v/ further is the worst possible idea, it's already been tried three times with little success.
e-celeb/youtube disscussion should be banned, though. Have them make an official e-celeb thread on /vg/, exile them to shitposting purgatory like we did all those years ago with MOBA fans.
Twitter/E-celebntry/-gamergirls threads shouldn't be allowed
What is the X or Y of videogames? What did he she/he mean by this? What are some games where i can X should be deleted and people banned
Add ID's to /v/
enforce moderation, obvious console war threads should be deleted
Unrelated pics to the thread should also be a bannable offense.
Please, for the love of god, just enforce the rules. The sheer amount of shitposting that goes on could power a city for days. Just get mods/janitors to actually enforce the rules, and /v/ will actually be good.
LOOK AT HOW MUCH /v/ DOES NOT WANT THIS SHIT TO HAPPEN.
HIRO, THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN. SAY NO TO THIS SPLIT.
>Ban platform/console wars, no warning
>Delete generals and daily threads
>Ban "Why haven't you bought a [console]" threads
>Delete e-celeb threads
>Keep cultural things like draw threads and the like
Hiro, the main issue is that MOST people on /v/ play both eastern and western games to some degree, and having a board for each would just be inconvenient. it's not like /ck/ and /fit/, for example, where an interest in healthy living may lead you to both, but the userbases as a whole are mostly distinct. For most people videogames = east and west, there's really too much of an overlap to justify the hassle of a split.
The hide thread option exists for a reason, people should use it if they only want to see a certain type of content.
Just make me a janitor Hiro, I've been on /v/ for 7 years and have no fucking life
i will fucking cleanse this board
>vehemently hate mobage games
Yes, they do. Do you not visit /v/ much? Anyway, the issue seems too many heads butting against eachother, a vj would probably shift from twitter drama to console wars and mocking content, i.e. weeb insults, especially with the nintendo sony rivalry here. I don't think you escape it with a vj.
Find me good mods. Seriously. The mods at gaf? Power tripping stasi. Reddit? lel Gamefaqs? no Official boards? HA. mods suck, they always suck. You find me a quality team of mods and I will sell you a genetically engineered catgirl for domestic ownership at a low price.
A videogame culture board would be a perfect trash can for /v/ for people who want to talk about the industry and horseshit like tweets from random youtubers like TotalBiscuit and lpers like TBFP.
>What is the X or Y of videogames? What did he she/he mean by this? What are some games where i can X should be deleted and people banned
These threads are made by IRC and the shitposting conglomerate purely to make /v/ worse overall.
Really though if you want to fix /v/ you'll have to get rid of mobileposting entirely. ID's will help but only a tad bit that it probably won't even be worth the effort. Moderation needs to be heavy on the console war shit, and e-celeb threads needs to be ban on sight. Add in autoban (1 day) word filters.
Please do not listen to anyone requesting for new boards right now. Everyone is excited that you've already created /aco/ and /his/, and so they think they rightfully deserve their own board for their own niche interest. Splitting up more boards will not decrease shitposting, it will only create dead boards where there is next to nothing to discuss. And then shitposting will ensue anyway.
It's best you just sit back for a while and let everyone acclimate to having you as the admin and to the two new boards you've created. Do not under any circumstances create, split, merge or delete any boards for the next few months. No matter how desperate an Anon might sound, I promise you it is just the vocal minority.
Do a complete purge of /v/'s moderation team since they are the definition of worthless.
A single person glancing at the catalog every hour for 10 seconds would make a better moderation team than what we have now.
There's the occasional thread asking about good phones games. But I barely visit them.
And true, people looking to start shit will certainly have a field day on a Japanese game board.
I think a good temporary solution to /v/'s shitposting would to set up IDs.
No one gives a fuck about censorship when it comes to literal shitposters who create hate just to give attention to their targets. Are you serious? Remember all those fags that wanted to discuss GG left and died over at hotwheel's site because they wanted to discuss their vitriol in peace? We're all better for it. Just create another board for video game culture and it'll take care of itself.
Please don't listen to the idiots in this thread telling you to splinter /v/ into multiple boards.
/v/ has already been split three times already, resulting in /vp/, /vg/ and /vr/. You could argue /jp/ as being part splintered off from /v/ as well.
Point being, this idea never works. /v/ is always going to be the second most trafficked board, and with that comes the second most shitposting.
We need proper moderation. There are too many biased moderators that actively silence discussion they don't agree with. We need to establish a clear set of rules so we know what constitues "board culture" and what should be treated as blatant shitposting, like JUST and HE threads, console war and journalism threads that devolve to SJW bashing and the like. We should be allowed to have certain off topic threads like unboxing threads and computer building/battlestation threads, which would be considered board culture. A lot of /v/ is currently flying off the handle and trying to say we need to split between western and japanese vidya, which wouldn't work. Please just help us with moderation.
>Add unique Id's like /b/ to stop the shills and false-flaggers
>Stop the mods from deleting stuff that isn't against the rules, this has gotten progressively worse since January.
>Do not split /v/
>Keep the filter on until black twitter is wiped from the earth
>Remind people that get triggered from eastern videogames that this is an anime imageboard, if they can't handle anime they should go to the literal hundreds of other videogame discussion forums that contain little discussion about eastern videogames. It never really was an issue anyway until the whole Social Justice Warrior thing started anyway.
>Stop E-Celeb garbage
This fixes the /v/
>We need to crack down on console wars, samefags, general shit tier flamebait and all the other faggotry that plagues the board.
But that would require mods who aren't lazy inept pieces of shit, are you out of your mind?
Daily reminder that /r9k/ is literally the reason why /v/ was associated with wojak half a decade ago when it was deleted.
I hate it when those faggots start coming onto /v/ to spread their dank pepe variants and start making threads for people wallowing in self-pity that they expect people who play vidya to be losers like them.
That poll does not at all represent my position for a Video Games board and a Video Games Culture & Hardware board. The point is to refocus /v/ on it's original topic of bideo james while giving the extremely large tertiary topics of culture and hardware it's own circle for discussion.
Strawpolls also are fucking garbage and fuck you faggot
... I think at this point it's at least worth a shot, at least as a trial. I can't think of any honest solution. IDs might expose a few more variables in determining what to do. Maybe most of the fun posting is actually done by a small number of sub humans and not as rampant as we (I?) think. IDs might help realize that and we can move from there.
/v/ was already split with /vp/, which got rid of Pokemon.
/v/ was split again with /vg/, which got rid of long-term threads.
/v/ was split a third time with /vr/, which got rid of games made before 1999.
Every time /v/ is split, more discussion leaves.
The reason /v/ is so bad now is because all the video game discussion is slowly driven away.
All you're doing is encouraging more video game discussion to leave.