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Role-Reversal and Gentle Femdom General - Catboys In Heat Edition

>related hentai
>monster girls
>general lewdness
>dojinshi recommendations
>anime/manga recommendations
>preferably recommendations that are on-topic
>friendly discussion

Previous Thread: >>23861902
>What is Role Reversal?

New Map:

Old Role Reversal Map:

FetLife Group

/gfd/ Gender and Age Survey http://strawpoll.me/5782920

irc channel: irc.irchighway.net , #gfd

/rr/ and /gfd/ megapastebins:
Reading/watching recommended for your /gfd/ pleasure

Animated films:
>Garden of Words
>Kiki's delivery service

>Witch Craft Works
>Madan no Ou to Vanadis
>Morobito: Guardian of the Spirit
>Monster Musume no Iru Ichijou
>Soredemo Sekai wa Utsukushii (The world is still beautiful)
>Akame ga Kill*
>Infinite Stratos
>Accel World*
>The Pet Girl of Sakurasou*
>Danna ga Nani o Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken
>Tasogare otome x Amnesia
>Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
>Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun

Manga/Light Novel:
>Kono Onee-san wa fiction desu
>Unbalance x Unbalance
>Sensei Lock-on
>Arakawa under the bridge
>Natsuyuki Rendezvous
>Tramps like us
>Hokago play
>Game Over

*/gfd/ is not the main focus of the story. Don't read/watch it purely for the /gfd/, make sure you enjoy it first and consider the /gfd/ a bonus.

Doujins: http://pastebin.com/5w7qgrM6
/r/ cute male guide
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Not-shitty Skype group that is actually moderated and not run by trolls and doesn't permit blatant thirst or memeing: https://join.skype.com/qPgomcxAS8Rb

Anyone got the social interaction and athletic guides?
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>tfw lost virginity recently
>grill has been teaching me how to have better sex
feels pretty gfd tbqh f@m
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I've gone out today finally after a three week depression episode and living as a shut in. How is it going for everyone?
>tfw you will never look like a trap

why live?

i can;t even be cute or have any traits a women would want anyways. You learn to deal with it and suffer in silence
I've been trying to stay positive and fight back the tide of hopelessness but I don't know what to do know. I feel like vomiting out my insides

I really hate looking manly in a creepy sort of way. I wish my appearance matched my personality so I could look soft and vulnerable instead of a disgusting serial killer or something
Why do people try to shit up a good chat?
Requesting this
-what chat are you referring to
-how are they shitting it up
>I've been trying to stay positive and fight back the tide of hopelessness but I don't know what to do know. I feel like vomiting out my insides

Can't say anything about this but I found that taking brisk walks on the shore I posted calms me down and makes me a bit positive. I talked with some people without sperging out today, boosted my mood like a motherfucker. Maybe try finding somewhere you can gather your thoughts man? Shutting yourself in really kills your mood and makes you more depressive.
People aren't shitting it up, it was shit to begin with, really
>get in nursing school
>expect gfd nurturing gf because sex ratio
>they all have bfs outside program

I'm reeing irl, fuck Stacy bitch cunts. I've got a thing for short girls and my class has 4 girls right at or near 5'0 tall. One is pure ginger too, another thing I love.

Maybe I can be a homewrecker by being their friend and 'he just gets me' because of shared struggles of nursing school. Wew lad them percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomies amirite? Too bad your dumb bf doesn't know what that is and that's freshman 1 shit. You should dump him for me so I have a gf.
shit chat desu, nearly as bad as the last one
really? i'll pass just gonna get talked over and treated like shit anyways.
Let's just talk here then anon! What are you up to? What kind of dom are you looking for?
Not really sure i enjoy the gentle parts and i'm open to the dom thing. I'm a little older so i don't think it would out anyways. i guess i would not be into a full dom to take over 100'% of my life.
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>drinking with a qt christmas cake
I don't use skype much
how do I join?
Yeah it is GENTLE femdom after all. So you don't have a particular preference? I'm very tame I just like to feel safe, but there's a lot of fetishists here.

So what part of it is interesting to you? I like the role reversal myself. I'm a bit of a girl, so it's nice to be able to act like myself and not have to conform to expectations.

Are you interested in it as a relationship dynamic or a slight kink?
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>tfw no gfd gf to make me feel loved and warm and secure like a child in his mother's embrace, kept safe from the crushing weight of the world

It's not even a kink or a fetish, or something that I'd expect to go on forever, but I really really need to experience it. It's the only way I am ever going to feel secure enough to reconnect with the part of me that is afraid of everything. It's the only way I'll be able to heal and grow, to stop limping through life and start making strides forward. I don't know what I could do to be deserving of having someone so kind and caring and nurturing and generous and compassionate in my life, but it is the only thing I desire in all the world. I feel like I could spend a lifetime searching and never find it.
Install skype, click link. If it doesn't work by being pasted into your browser just paste it in to skype and click the link.
I asked yesterday how to top bf, and people said to lovingly rape him. unfortunately I mixed up the days and today is not his day off. so, tomorrow I shall try it. story time then.
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Anyone else have a thing for naga/snakegirls?
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Yay! Hope everything goes well, anon! Just remember to have fun with it!
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I'm a fan
been removed half a second after joining
What's going on?
>just applied for a green card

W-wish me luck, maybe I can be free of this shithole finally.
Not rape!

I responded yesterday but it was too late. The short version of what I said is use him to get off, focus on your pleasure and use him, treat him a bit like a piece of meat, then afterwards tell him how happy he made you and what a good boy he is while you okay big spoon.

Hopefully you are this.
Which shithole?
See* but yeah unless he asked to be raped specifically don't do it. That's overkill.
Should I castrate myself sometime?
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no, that's not gentle!

Turkey, I have no hope for this place after yesterday. Fuck this country, fuck people in it, fuck the government. I don't want to have anything with this place anymore, hell I'm not even Turkish.
I want a strong girl to hoarsely cough into my mouth!
Do you want to get a cold?

Actually, that's a great idea. Free get-well headpats and warm soup in bed.
I think >>23956253 truth be told iv'e never been in a relationship so it's kinda hard for me to pick. I don't mind her being in control inside the bedroom. dynamic or a slight kink? um...slight maybe my ignorance really makes this hard.

Sorry just being honest.
I think about being castrated a lot these days. Would nobody love me afterwards?

I feel you man, I always feel scared and lonely. Like there is this weird feeling in my chest that never goes away, I feel like something terrible is going to happen 7/24, I feel vulnerable and unsafe.
>That's overkill
Agreed. that would ruined it completely for me and asking would be a good idea.
Why? i'm very confused
I just want her to infect me with her being
If it's something you consciously experience then it's possible that you can deal with it through therapy. In my case it's just a subconscious part of me, a feature of my personality, and I know that I won't be able to unearth it without a complete and total change of environment.
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>tfw no confident /gfd/ gf to hold me tight and make me feel loved when I'm feeling insecure
Too bad she KEEPS LEAVING before she can see it.

Now she's gonna rape her boyfriend because he expressed an interest in GENTLE femdom.

I must of left a bad impression >>23956849 sorry not the first time women just find my lack of experience boring and want nothing to
do with me anyways. Well at lest it made me happy someone tried to talk to me...i'll go back to lurking so i don't bother anybody else have a good day/morning see you around.
she should know better that's that's common sense. their is a good reason why it's called rape and i feel bad for the dude. if it goes
south it's her fault for not simply asking like anybody at least logic minded person would. he is most likely going to see that as being cruel but i'm not him so i don't know.
Sorry! I missed your response! I got caught up with the girl whose going to rape her poor boyfriend, and I'm eating.

Not knowing a bit is good honestly, it means you're malleable. The WORST thing you can do is lurk. Talk! The more you discuss the better the chance you meet someone.

What are and aren't you comfortable with if you don't mind me asking? Even softer doms tend to like a little but of pet play or the like.
I think she misunderstood. It's an honest(ish) mistake. She says she didn't know how to do GFD but that he said he wanted her to try.

So she came to the thread for advice; now she's going to rape him because yesterday someone told her that was what he wanted.

Not entirely her fault, she doesn't seem to "get" it.
i didn't mean to go full attack mode on her mistakes happen. just saying rape can be a touchy subject. you don't want to break the guy and scare him off of course that's goes with girls to. I agree with you 100%
Yeah it still be interesting when she shows up tomorrow to tell the story.

Maybe she'll get lucky and that is what he wants, but I'm doubting it...
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>trying to stay optimistic about gentle reverse rape
Oh i don't like bothering people. I don't like the whole you're garbage piece of meat attitude. their is exceptions to that where it's playful and i'm fine with.

i think i would be into a bit of pet play the whole head patting deal. I guess this >>23957731
i think a mommy gfd slight anyways. i guess i just don't like to be treated like shit or have someone fully run my life from morning to night 24/7 but i don't have to make every single decision.

I try to be open minded not narrow minded.
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>insists on cuddling
fuck i know this feel too well senpai, i dont think we will ever find relief, i just want to die desu ;_;
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She doesn't need to insist. I'm always ready.
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sometimes I like to pretend I have to be convinced
I just want a short /rr/ gf who's a switch sexually that will just let me work a part time job and do everything for her.
You have the right idea! GFD is all about emotional attachment and relying on your partner heavily!

It's a mutualism, but you're on the right track! She shouldn't have to tell you to do things, you'll naturally do them to make her happy, because she makes you feel safe and comfortable.

It's an amazing feeling to be able to totally trust someone, no acting, no facade, just pure love ~

So keep it up! I like your attitude, just keep talking, even if it's hard. Contrary to what people here tell you doms WILL assert themselves, and pursue you. But only if you catch their interest first!

I'll keep responding, but I'm busy so I apologize for any intermissions, I promise I'll read what you have to say!
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Wow Iame
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Give me the sauce now.
that was my interpretation of lovingly rape him. Using him for pleasure, while telling him he is doing very good. planning on trying to be on top on the couch, hopefully I won't get too overwhelmed.
lol. not going to actually rape bf. he was more interested in loving/maternal I think? idk this stuff. but I don't like rough sex anyways, and hate seeing him sad.
I won't literally rape him, geeze. him enjoying it is most important, if I really wanted to get off I would just use buzzy. I enjoy seeing him happy
Same tbqh. I want to have an equal relationship where both do an equal amount of subbing and domming.

Mostly i just want to truly bee myself in front of my girlfriend and not have to always hide my emotion as i usually do (im very stoic, so i dont have a lot of them, but when i do would like to be able to open and sincere about it with person i love)
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Everyone I've ever been with knows that always want it.
Drunk Love by Shiomaneki
The important part is the switch from using him and being sexually aggressive.

It sounds awful but even if you're feeling uncomfortable, store it all up and keep the act going then let it all out lovingly afterwards and snuggle him until you feel better.
Getting you off WILL make him happy, that's where you can tell you're not a dom.

Worry about you during, he'll love it. Then save the lovey dovey for afterwards.
should I "use" him, like use his dick and body and stuff to pleasure myself
or should I use him like bdsm stuff
and being sexually aggressive, is that in a slutty way, or a confident way, or what?

am very lost. greatly prefer being submissive myself. appologies for my painfully inexperienced self

I can't "use" him very much if I'm not enjoying it though, right?
Make him pleasure you. Walk him through every step, assert yourself.

Don't just use his body to make you feel good, make him work for it. Tell him how good you feel, and make him feel good to, but don't make it about him. Make it about you.

Subs get off on their doms pleasure. He wants YOU to feel good, and be wants you to tell/show him how to make you feel amazing.

Then afterwards tell him how happy you made him and that he's good and show your affection.

Just be selfish, tell him EXACTLY what makes you feel good and push him to do it. He'll love it, I promise.
To add to it the hard part from going to dom from sub is vocalizing. COMMUNICATE. That's what the real secret is, tell him what you want when you want it and how you want it. That's what doms DO, they express desires and feelings well and make you feel wonderful when you fulfill them.
So much it has become an inside joke between my friends
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that makes a lot of sense.
normally he spends most of our sessions doing stuff to me. So instead I will tell him what to do to me, even though it's pretty much the same stuff? and on top of all that stress that I am in charge, not in a cruel way, but in an assertive/confident way.

I am much more confident about all of this stuff.

also, I collect nice wallpapers, will start posting them on posts because this is an imageboard?

we've been together for almost 3 years, he knows exactly what to do. should I tell him anyways? I guess I should stay in charge and tell him what to do anyways.

ha, fulfill. more like fill. I am getting this lewd thing down.

any tips about initiating? he is having a stressful day tomorrow, the sex would really help him.
Alright thanks i'll try.I never been emotionally attached to anybody so i guess you could say i'm numb to the whole love thing. But lately loneliness has been taking a toll on me. I guess i'm afraid to love because i don't want to be hurt.

I spent many years on 4chan watching all the hate thread for women the countless amount of posts saying this and that. I didn't want to run into what they said about women but i don't believe it's true for every single women on the planet.
Initiating is the hardest part because for everyone it's different. But especially if he's stressed sneak up and grope him. Nothing sets a sub off like sneaking up behind him and coping a feel while you kiss up his neck and whispering how you're going to have your way with him.

Other things like pinning him on the bed and just kind of playing with his body do it for some, kiss his chest, lick his nipples. His body is YOURS make him feel like it. And don't give him control, take your time torture him with sensuality, but make him WAIT.

Make him squirm, maybe even make him beg for it, some guys love that. Make him need you. Then ALLOW him to have you, don't let him have his way, you control it. Set the place, choose the position, and don't go out of your way to give him what he wants. Your're going to; but on your time.
The things that are said about women I'd say are true in most cases. But to be honest, live in the moment. That way you'll be able to experience things fully, regret can come later after you've filled the void in your life.
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>But especially if he's stressed sneak up and grope him.
that sounds quite fun and doable.
I need to go to bed, have to drive grandma early in the morning. hope she's not dying.
Also the good news is that you funny have to top! As a dom you get to choose, pull him into you, lock him there with your legs and whisper exactly what you want him to do to you. Bonus points if you can make him flustered or embarrassed.

Or you can start on top and just stop, tell him if he wants it he has to work for it, and make him top, lots of ways to stay dom on bottom, just needs some finesse.
Okay! Good luck! You seem to care a lot so I'm sure no matter what you do he'll be happy!
I see. Well i don't want to be that hateful is all. Yea i'll try
Don't let people get to you, I know for a FACT that several lovely doms lurk this thread, out the thread on /d/. Don't listen to the naysayers.

At worst I'm always here to talk!

Also top secret advice! Don't be thirsty! Just try to make friends. Once a girl gets to know you SHE will initiate, doms HATE thirsty guys in my experience, be genuine be expressive.

Don't put on your man face. Softness attracts doms, it's endearing. Be embarrassing, be emotional, be yourself!

If you're a sub a dom WILL find you, and you WILL know it for now just make friends and talk!
ok thanks i appreciate it.
Yup! Hope to see you around. I like you, you seem to have the right idea about GFD.

There's nothing wrong with the crazy fetishists but I love finding people who are more relationship oriented like me.

Best of luck! ;)
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>tfw another ambiguously awry and likely hopeless "date" attempt ended
>tfw my life hasn't ended
There's like fifty things on my mind right now and all of them involve me feeling helpless and utterly worthless
please help
This is definitely the right place for you existential crisis.
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Well, it'd be nice to have the gfd thing entailing emotional and/or practical support and encouragement.

That would be nice,
wouldn't it?
i'll stick around. yea nothing with fetishists. Good luck with you if you're not with somebody anyways.
I'm here for you! What's on your mind?
i always feel that way i just try not to show it.
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good evening, gfd

what have you been doing in your freetime?
Not much lurking, taking to my dom, working, and working out. The usual.

Hoping you can breathe some life into this thread. What have you been up to?
>dat ss pic
Watching anime and playing video games.
That's usually the done thing. "Fake it 'till you make it", as they say.

Hello, thank you.

Firstly, I haven't slept yesterday, due to an assignment, and it looks like I'll have to do that for Wednesday as well. So at best, I'd just be spouting panicked rambles about everything and nothing.

I've also moved on - or at least tried to - regarding wanting to be a "good person", but it still seems innate in my upbringing to try and do the "right thing", despite this usually involving effort and lack of benefit on my part, and the unappreciated benefit of others. I'm often at a standstill between trying to live my own life for myself, and hoping for some person or entity to show me that there can be good in my life, I deserve to be happy, etc, etc... I don't know if I deserve to be happy, or if that's even a thing. I don't think I'm a "good person", but I think there might be some merit that I'm trying to do my best... This sort of self-doubt, while it was kind of getting better, got worse after my grandmother passed away earlier this year. Trying and failing to resuscitate my nearing-100 grandmother, and realizing how we've generally unappreciated her and taken her for granted sort of hammered a point against moral subjectivity, in that I failed myself at an objective level in acting insincere to myself. I find little comfort in the obvious platitudes/words, especially among family, e.g. family is supposed to be generally supportive, which makes the content arbitrary or unconvincing..

I'm lonely. Meaningful dialogue is rare. I want to hope. I'm aware that I'm a difficult person but refuse to lower some of my standards, despite successfully lowering it in other ways.

Everything hurts and it's sad that I'm longing for some magic fantasy solution to make everything better.
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Here is some actual content.
I'm gonna take care to respond to everything, it's a lot but I love to be there for people and have meaningful talks! I'm excited you decided to share!

First thing is first, get some sleep! Good boys take care of themselves.

You sound very introspective, I like that. But at the same time that's why we need doms! Sometimes you just need someone to kiss you into submission and make you stop thinking, don't overdo it!

My rule of thumb is that if you're overtly concerned with being a good person, you probably are. Nobody is perfect, but I can tell just from this post, you're genuine. You TRY, and you seem sincere. I love that, and other people will to.

It's a bit sad that you're lonely, you seem fairly articulate and very sincere. You really shouldn't have to lower standards honestly, just be patient and keep communicating! Someone will find you, sincere people should always end up happy.

There's nothing wrong with that fantasy, the possibility of being swept off your feet is VERY real. That's the beauty of life, you never know.

I lurk a lot, but I'm always here to chat, I love to listen and make friends!
What does that even have to do with gentle femdom? Fuck off you retard.
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Talking to my mommy gf and playing vidya.

Also trying to escape NEET life to avoid homelessness.
How's life, diaperbro?
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Thank you for your response and your thoroughness. I appreciate it.

I have a small assignment due tomorrow and an essay due for Wednesday. I'm considering asking about the student resources or whatever with the death in the family possibly affecting my performance to some extent, but I'd rather not use this as a crutch or leave anything on record about me. I wasn't in the mood to eat, so I didn't eat anything aside from breakfast. It might be a bit sick, but the feeling of dizzying hunger is somewhat fulfilling in that it motivates me to work first before eating, etc. I'm not a good boy at all...

Right, sometimes we need doms... But right now, it's just me. Do I need me?

But a decent portion of my thoughts revolved around living true to one's self and rejecting society's doctrine of utilitarian morals. It's only through personal tragedy (and certain memories from before I guess) that I was essentially forced to reevaluate my moral notions. I pride myself on my occasional ability in rhetoric in convincing people, and I value the skill of deception highly. I honestly don't know what I am, whether I'm good or bad or even whether or not I'm true to myself. I don't think it's just me thinking about how bad I am to hear from someone else that I'm good, because there's some good things on occasion that I acknowledge about myself. I value sincerity to some extent, and I try to some extent... But failure seems to be the predominant outcome regardless... Sincerity is utilized and trampled upon by most people, but is it valid to blame society for supposed necessity to deception...?

I tend to believe that I shouldn't lower my standards... but from that, usually that's all I'm left with. My theory is that my exterior isn't approachable enough for persons to identify whatever qualities of merit that they may or may not find in me. I suppose sincere people should end up happy, but I'm not sure how often that's the case. ...
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And how often is it that people in general end up becoming happy? I don't know. But some of them at least look happy; it might be that some of them at least think that they're happy, too.

Fantasies are no good if they become detrimental delusions to one' s life.. The possibility is very real, but also very unlikely... What could I possibly offer as incentive or exchange for such treatment.

In any case, thank you. Photos came up. The lady I was with put on makeup for an event after she met me, but during our time together, she was relatively unkempt. Disappointing, but unsurprising..
I finished moving, so now I'm organizing everything. I'm hoping it'll be easier to facilitate a gf now.
It's bad but it's been worse. My family has been broken for a while and they're about to destroy each other the rest of the way. I'm still mostly composed thanks to my mommy gf being there for me and supporting me. If I hadn't met her at this point in my life, I probably would be an heroing soon if I hadn't already done so in the last month due to my current living situation 2bh. I don't want to be homeless... but I think I would try to go through it and survive in the hope that I could be with her one day. How about you m8?

I've been restless the past few days stressing and worrying about a million things and I'm about to pass out btw.
Take care of yourself. If you need someone to hold you accountable, I will. I'll be sad if you aren't feeling well.

In my opinion talk to the professor. Tell them the circumstance, everyone has dealt with that, it's not crutch at all, even I can tell you're all out of sorts.

I'm going to keep this simple, I could try to speak more eloquently, but I find quite often simple is best, others relate better.

In terms of societal pressures, yes deception is ubiquitous. Moreover it's invaluable and is one of the few traits that can circumvent circumstance and allow you to thrive anywhere. However, it's taxing; especially as a good person it will mentally exhaust you. Deception is morally undefined, and will make you question yourself, HOWEVER, that is only the case of you are actually a decent human being.

Shitty people do not question deception, they just do it.

Never lie to your dom. Ever. They're the one person where you have to be yourself even if it's terrifying.

As to the probabilty of finding a dom? I can personally attest that it happens, and you seem to question what you bring to the table in such an arrangement?

No idea. I have NO IDEA what she sees in me, but she loves all my flaws, I've never been so happy. I wish she would let me do more, it feels like she does SO MUCH for me and I don't feel like I do enough, but she's happy, and that makes be happy.

How exactly did the arrangement occur?

Sorry if I missed anything! I'll reread it when I get to my computer but my phone is dying (and a PAIN to reply on).
Also going to bed soon! If I don't catch your reply first I'll talk to you later!

Take care of yourself until then, or I'll be sad!
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>Implying this whole thread doesn't belong there
y-you too
The /d/ thread doesn't even like diapers. They pushed all of them into their own threads. Take a hint.
off you go champ
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Because /d/ has diaper threads. That still doesn't change that /gfd/ belongs in /d/, too, breh.
Haven't seen a diaper thread on /b/ in a while, ackchyually.

Except between changes, nap time, and the lack of content.
I get why people are trying to get you to go away because diapers haven't existed in a non joking way on /gfd/, but I don't really have an issue with it. My issue is that your so obnoxious about it. The meme words and phrasing of your sentences and the pictures you post are quite annoying.
don't ruined it just go
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>she can't abide a somber Anon
Well maybe I wouldn't come off as obnoxious if anons weren't so hostile about it to begin with.

It also doesn't help that two femanons (including mommy gf) have been encouraging my semi-shitposts.
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>genuine human reaction
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>licks your face
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>set phasers to fuck
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>bound for trouble
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>you tickle her fancy
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>pretty darned comfortable
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My GF of over a year dumped me today, mostly cuz I was into stuff like this.
Fuck I hate this hairstyle.
She didn't love you then. I'm am sorry to hear that.
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hair in a bun? yeah, unless she's in military uniform, I want tresses or a qt bob

she doesn't know what she's missing, anon
There are some things people just can't deal with. I'm not saying they are equivalent, but I don't think I could stay with someone who has an actual kekold fetish. Maybe she couldn't handle that.
I would like to try this...i'm a sucker for it.
i should of said that...fair enough.
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>a special touch
Well I wasn't pushing it or anything. Plus she knew about it from the start. I'm mostly extrapolating this info from conversations we had in the past. When she broke it off she just said "I love you but I'm not in love with you. Goodbye."
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that's really the best way, honestly. you don't want to be strung along wondering and she didn't want to be mean
I just feel like that's a not nice way to end things. We went through a lot together and to end it like that, over a text mind you, feels spiteful. Like she was mad at me for something. I know I can't fix everything, but at least let me know what needed fixed ya know?
>over a text mind you
that seems over dramatic in my opinion.
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by text is a kinda rude yeah
but only kinda
I don't think so. I hate hate hateeee texting for stuff like that. Asking if you got the milk on your way home, sure. Breaking up with your boyfriend over a single text seems like a no go. And she knows how much I hate it too.
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awww but I'm bittering up the place. MORE PORN
man I don't like this filter
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that's okay, friend, feels are always welcome
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I think this is from a drawfag.
that pic! i really like the art style.
Wow, literally a pic of Opal and victim.
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feet? idk, I just want to post a pic.
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and im out.
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Face slapping is a popular femdom thing. There is lots of porn of it, and women like to do it. It's really hot when the proposal to slap repeatedly comes from the woman.
i'll pass but you're welcome to enjoy it.
I'd hardly consider slapping gentle anon. Maybe some play slapping, but real? No thanks.
I don't think i will be happy with somebody full slapping me in the face. This will make me angry to say the least.
Yeah it'll make you angry, but you'll accept it quietly because she's a pretty girl that you love and you know she's right. She's the one who is right, always.
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might not be for everybody, I think it's sexy and the woman looks so powerful. They don't all hit very hard from what I've seen
No not at all i'm not into full slapping if you are enjoy but that's not gentle.
Great it's you're opinion
>He doesn't like being slapped and abused and then praised for being an obedient little boy
Were done here you're trolling at this point. You can go shit up the thread with somebody else.
> He doesn't like being smacked around with a hammer
That's no way to treat a boy. They're simple creatures, weak of mind but strong of body. You have to be gentle but controlling with them, slapping them wont learn them much and just make them mistrust you.
Hate to tell you anon but they somehow are even more rare then the femdoms. Believe me I've searched them out HARD because I am into the same thing. I can't do just purely subbing or domming there has got to be a mix for it to have long term potential. I've tried but there is no long term solution to the problem so without switching its at best a short term deal.

Its a fucking nightmare because trying to find a femdom is bad enough but someone who is ALSO into both? Fucking hell speaking from experience they are a lot rarer then the already very rare femdoms.

Fuck but I would rather be a typical dom or even a goddamn pure sub. My chances would be a lot better.
>you will never be a banged up robot that gets salvaged and rebuilt by a tomboy mechanic
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>wake up
>realize no food left
>looks like mom took all my money to meet her friends
>internet got throttled to 128 kbps because dad didn't gave me the bill
>tfw shitty things happening just as I woke up

I need to fucking move out asap, well time for another wonderful day I guess.
Wtf? how do you put up with that? get out soon fucking shit.

I'm trying to find a full time stable job but it's hard, I'm working from home doing freelance stuff and it brings good money but I can't move out because there is no stable workflow. I have to live here until I find a full time job.
Hmm i see. Well i hope it's soon that sound like hell.

Yeah, mom is constantly spewing negativity, anxiety and depression. Dad is constantly nagging me to find a "real" job even though I provide more than him when I get work. Sister is a selfish spoiled cunt. I'm trying hard to keep my patience up but mom's shit is rubbing off me, I can't seem to shake off depression and anxiety.
That sounds like a cocktail of sadness. Well fuck don't give up gonna be a struggle but i think you will make it. that would drive me insane though i
do admit almost a wreck for sure.

When I was away 5 years for college, I was not the most happiest person but at least I was calm, not stressed and could do whatever the fuck I wanted. I feel like I'm going to fucking suffocate here.
I would be dead if i was in you're shoes. Or fuck i don't know i almost consider going homeless maybe...I'm in kinda in the same problem but not even on you're level..
any good gentle femdom asmr. Its the only way I can feel pleasure desu kek senpai

Stressful for sure but at least it builds up resistance.
You sound like a selfish person. That's very unattractive
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Hear me out /gfd/, I'm having a trouble with my current partner. At first he seemed to be the most perfect thing, his reactions were amazing, his fetishes the same as mines, his submissiveness just right. But as time passed things changed.

One of my biggest turn ons and reason why I always want to be the one initiating any kind of sexual activities is seducing people and turning them on myself, but as time passed this person started to get bolder and bolder. He wants to be dominated, but it almost feels like, how can I say, he is the one ordering me to rape him. He doesn't explicitly says so, but by the way he talks and acts around me, and that look and smile he constantly has, it's obvious he is constantly aroused and waiting for me to jump on him. At first I tried playing along with it and punishing him for being so horny, but it reached the point when I don't really feel that dominant anymore, and I really can't say I'm the one with the initiative. I've told him about this and he tries to hide his intentions more by talking about random stuff he clearly does not care about, but it really just doesn't change the situation much, I can still constantly him pretty much begging me with his eyes to rape him.

Usually in these situations I would just move up to another partner and call it a day, but he is so good at this other than for this small problem, and we've been going at it for so long I'm starting to consider him a friend as well, though he clearly just thinks about sex 24/7, he is way too horny. What should I do?
>I want to have sex with a partner who doesn't want to have sex with me
Well fuck you and good luck with your retardation.
That's not what I said at all, all I said is that I want to be the one to initiate sexual activities. But it's kind of hard if he's always ready pretty much with his dick out every time he talks, and asks me for things to do. It loses all its appeal if he says things like "please make me edge" or "use me to alleviate your boredom", especially when he does so with that tone of his. Nobody would contact me if they did not want to have sex, there is a big difference between that and having the lead/initiative in the activity.
>It loses all its appeal if he wants the things I want, I only want sex with someone who doesn't want it
So yes that is exactly what you said after all.
A difference in libido isn't exactly an easy thing to deal with. If the difference is too large it can easily ruin a relationship. Luckily for you the differences in libido problem has been around for literal ages so there is quite a bit of material on how to deal with it if possible.

If it doesn't work though your fucked. Not to mention that isn't the only problem you are currently experiencing but when you get down to it that problem is directly connected to it. And no its not a small problem. That kind of problem can easily ruin a relationship and you don't have just that problem. You also have something on top of it as well.

I can safely say that if you fail to find a fix then your relationship is toast especially given your fetish which exacerbates the problem. You would be far from the only ones who had that happen to for consolation by the way.

Then ignore him until your in the mood then make the move.

Either way though from the sounds of it your relationship is finished unless you find that fix. Due to both your fetishes and interests what means I know to fix that sorta problem wont actually work for this scenario.
>tfw just want to have a friendly conversation with a girl
Same, for some reason I find it more pleasant to casually talk with women.
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>tfw she has shown you that dental hygiene can be lewd too.

Yeah man, talked with a couple of ones lately and it gives me a nice tingly feeling. I don't know how to explain, too bad they just don't give a shit about you after some time and never message you or give proper replies.
No thread you're too young to die, come down from page 10!
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>try some old coats and sweater I couldn't fit in last winter
>they are loose now

who /losingweight/ here? I feel so fucking good right now.
I dropped six stone over the summer a few years back. Wearing my old clothes made me feel like what a girl looks like when she wears my clothes.

Hah, I'll be sure to keep them for that reason maybe. Man I feel so good after a 2 month long depression episode, can't wait to drop the last 25 kg.
I created a female character in FFXIV for the sole purpose of meeting dominant lesbians

I'm a dude
You're just going to meet other dudes.
>It loses all its appeal if he wants the things I want, I only want sex with someone who doesn't want it

Just can't win either way?. We have enough failed relationships in today's age why ruin a good one over who is horny? if you're dropping somebody because you want to fuck the guy only when i want to is selfish.

Loyalty somebody that will love you and you only and wants to be with you for more then sex. Is not going to cheat on you (both sides) and like to be around each other is rare these days.

Don't fuck it up for a petty reason. This thread is not normal relationships i understand that but try to be better then the rest of the cruel and vile people we have running around (both genders) their is trashy women as much as their trashy men those have fucked it up for the rest of us. This is still my opinion but please consider this.
A man can dream
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1 hour of inactivity for the thread to end up on page 10. /r9k/ is really busy today.
It should pick or not lol
Why is it so dead tonight? Did everyone finally killed themselves?
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>implying i will let thread die
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No...not for a lack of trying anyways.

I was feeling pretty good couple of hours ago but now I'm in utter despair again. What the fuck brain?
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>bad dog
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smash that fukkin love button
Fap you're brain it always help.
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>tfw small dick
>get sad even when I see a drawing

Why did it had to be like this?
No but some anons probably have by now. I do believe there is a regular literal die off that is separate from the the usual /r9k/ die offs when it comes to these kind of threads. Usually anons finally choose to end it.

not like many of them stood much a chance while they were still alive anyway.

Might be a in a lull between die offs and new blood tho.

Then a few newer anons end up taking their places.
That's... Bleak. I like to think most people who are serious about this will make it...
>not like many of them stood much a chance while they were still alive anyway
>you must be 100% perfect in every way
>all traits must be met
>chad level genetics
Fuck off not even here can i be saved from normies
Tfw I found grill that likes to be treated like fucktoy
Everyone here has such a skewed perspective... Am I the only guy here who has had any luck with GFD?
The guy looks too much like costanza.jpg

Also how do I procure a bf who is tall and /fit/ but mentally submissive? it's like then only male subs are either traps or plain manlets. It just doesn't do it.
if you feel bad about it go find one and save one
and solve the problem! with all that kindness in you're heart! fucking cruel asshole

Define tall, 6+? If so that's pretty easy... Get one whose not fat then just ask him to workout...

He's a sub, he'll try to conform to your expectations, and he'll be more reliant on you than a guy who was already perfect.
How tall? I'm 5'10 and extremely /fit/, and submissive.
Once...with the only femdom I knew who qualified. Femdoms are rare and they are rare even among femdoms. This makes the demand for them to be even more skewed then usual.

Look for men in high powered professions. They are much more likely to as it helps them wind down. Unsurprisingly said group is one of the most popular among femdoms and is also responsible for skewing things so badly.

It ain't easy competing with rich, tall, /fit/, and successful who just happens to be a sub to help deal with the strain of it. Only bastards who are regularly capable of it are the boyish types who also tend to get the femdoms hot and bothered something fierce.

Your assuming that anon is female.
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Put this thread on life support.
Weird guess I hit some niche? I've had very little trouble and I don't really fit into either of the popular categories.

So I guess I'm just kind of disoriented by others lack of success. I don't totally understand desu.
>100% are cherry picked
>the rest are thrown out unwanted like trash
>standers are higher then normal
>they think it's fair
Just admit unless you are perfect in every way and have every trait and quality a gfd wants you have 0% chance you might as well kill yourself you ugly piece of shit You might as well be saying this. You're worse then normies god i hate this society you mother fuckers need a good a good swift kick in the ass.

I hope and pray one day i get the courage to end it. In the end you're no better then normies who shit on you and treat you like scum of the earth because you're chad or perfect in general.
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>basking in the warm sunlight
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>manticore test subject
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>designation: boy toy
>Not chad
My mistake
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>reverse rape
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...sounds more like you hit the mother of all lotteries and a miracle on top of that. ESPECIALLY given you don't fit into the two most popular categories among femdoms.

I have searched long and hard for that kind of women and in terms of rarity I put them at least around female switches if not more rare. Its not like any of those types are easy to find to begin with and more classic strategies to fish them out often fail if not actually repulses them.

Welcome to being a male sub the market dynamics is even far more fucked then the much more common male dom and female sub.

and I ain't even gonna go into what its like the for switches of either sex.
Thinking like this certainly destroys your chances.

I personally think that legitimate subs will always find a dom, but if you're just acting like a sub or want a woman to support you... Yeah you're fucked.
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>handled with care
>Look for men in high powered professions.
By high-powered you mean corporate executives and such? Or physically high-powered like construction workers? My brother works in construction so I have some connections there but I don't know any CEOs. Still, if there's a will...
Some of them lurk the /d/ threads.

Or you could acquire a tall sub and train him up yourself, but that's kind of long-term.
I don't think you can hit the lottery more than once.

It's not like I tried to fish them out or anything... I just try to talk and make friends I'll always befriend boys too! Then they, well approach is a weak word. More like claim. But they claim me after we talk for a while.

I mean not all do. But it seemed pretty common. Maybe stop trying to look? Be friendly and let them find you?

That or it really is a one in a million occurrence happening more than once...
>I'm choosing to be a cunt and do what soceity tells me to do because i'm a asshole who does not think for myself
>I have no love for non perfection
>I choose not to break away and watch people suffer unloved and thrown out

You're not even a human anymore. You are sub human trash. I hope you;re proud of yourselves! knowing full well men and women are suffering because DERP not
good enough LOL fuck off and die.
oh gawd the memories...and yeah that titty thing with the choking really does work. Nearly got myself killed by it at one point. Dangerous things a nice pair of titties is...especially if the owner knows how to use them.

Professions that have a very high demand so yeah they would be more common among both those types.

Those execs though are known to throw around mad amounts of cash to get their subbing fix. Even they still have problems with finding femdoms as the money being thrown around would strongly indicate.

Basically though the general rule of thumb is like with feminists and high powered businesswomen they will naturally attempt to compensate for the large amounts of dominance they use in daily life by being a complete sub in the sack. This is true in a similar vein among men. So naturally you will be more likely to find them in such professions that require them to use large amounts of it. They will then seek to 'recharge' by being a sub in the sack.

Can't believe a femdom doesn't know this its extremely basic and common info for them. In fact if your a femanon you would be my first encounter with one.

Oh you can when your on a roll then your on a roll. Problems arise when said roll ends.

Its why gamblers get obsessed with patterns because when shit happens it tends to cluster which makes it APPEAR like there really is one.

Fortune and misfortune rarely travel alone after all.

and yeah I understand the whole claiming deal. Honestly its the one of only reliable ways I have found that can actually flush out a femdom. I've had it happen to me when I was still their type.
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>tfw no chivalrous horse pussy gf
bah meant have a very high demand on those who are in it. Typically in a more dominating fashion.

I have certainly heard of a few construction and similar manly man types who were subs. Vice versa with those like execs.
Please elaborate a bit on your findings about switches, both male and female. Are they really as rare as female doms? Are they a completely separate group from standard doms and subs?
>Can't believe a femdom doesn't know this its extremely basic and common info for them.
I've only recently considered taking the femdom outside of the internet. I've only done erp and all that, so I'm only now starting to put in the research to do it in real life. You've pretty much showed me the road, though. Thanks sensei.
Thanks for the perspective! I'll try not to squander my fortune then!
Switches...are complicated they are in both groups yet not at the same time. As for rarity...speaking from experience I can say wholeheartedly they have proven to be literally rarer then femdoms by quite a bit too. In terms of femdom the ONLY ones i found that can actually be readily compared to in terms of rareness is those who are into /rr/ and /gfd/. Of whom are rare subset of the already rare femdoms. So no joke they really fucking rare.

Wish I was joking, but they really are. Interestingly enough though unlike with the wretchedly awful dynamics between male subs and femdoms. Among switches...that isn't actually a problem because as it turns out switches of BOTH sexes are typically plagued by the same problems. It isn't one sided or anything among them.

Male and female switches both suffer very similar problems. Most of which can be solved assuming they can get with a fellow switch...problem is they are just too hellishly rare. A switch who knows they are a switch, no matter their sex, can likely look to a lifetime of sexual starvation even if they try to their hardest to find a fellow switch. To them one of their greatest banes to their existence is the simple rarity of their kind.

Things are in fact so dire among the switches that those who are bi are known to attempt to get their fixes by swinging on both sides of the fence hoping they can scratch it all in the process. It has the unfortunate side effect of giving switches a bad name in certain communities though its worth noting that such actions usually result from sheer desperation. Bi ones seemingly have a way out of it...maybe. Which the straight or homo switches especially dislike as it makes their problems even worse and can even give them new ones due to the reputation of theirs being connected to their bi counterparts.

Switches suffer some serious problems.

oh now a feel old...

Take advantage. If only I had known it was temporary...
That is just the beginning. If you attempt to find a switch...you have to recall that its EXTREMELY fucking hard to tell a switch apart from a sub or dom. In fact its more like impossible as they can with EXTREME ease exist among either group. So this only makes their problems even worse as not only do they make themselves harder to spot but at the same time they can only scratch half their itch. The other half remains unsatisfied...Switches unlike either doms OR subs also do not carry any kind of tell. Its nearly impossible to distinguish them from either group and considering their rarity they are entirely unable to split off and really form their own unified group.

Even the rare as hell femdoms not only have enough numbers to warrant the formation of their own group but there are even SUBSETS of said group!

...which is simply impossible for the switches even if you combine both men and women.

Naturally has a psuedo member of both groups the problems that exist in them...also affect them even though they are 'really' one of them. Due to their similar tastes and needs they are affected by it all the same.

So in reality a switch is ACTUALLY suffering from the problems of being a sub, dom, AND switch of their sex COMBINED all together!

As for in terms of finding a switch...well there really isn't any. As in there is literally less on that for them then there is for rare femdoms its so fucking bad. According to all the switches I talked to and my own research. The only type they were able to find another switch is 1 sheer luck and 2 if it was known they are a switch. Problem is due to switches being seen as a 'interesting' and 'different' fakes are common among those who claim to be a switch. So many switches I met admitted that going after those who claim to be a switch isn't actually a very good idea precisely due to the fakes.

This is actually why many would say that switches aren't in fact super rare and should in fact be more common then femdoms!
Being a switch sounds like tough shit. I used to think these D/s roles were mostly for fun and not mandatory for the people involved, but it turns your entire sexuality builds on them and it's not as flexible as it seems. In that case it really is hell when you don't find someone who matches your criteria.
You're fucked end of story unless you're a 10/10 perfect. Good luck champ try suicide you win by default.
How do I fake being dom, guys? I'm sick of seeing my fwb's dissatisfied face during sex because I'm not rough enough. I'd try but, I'm afraid of hurting her ;_;
However those studies and surveys do NOT exclude the fakes! When you get rid of the fakes and liars they are in fact much rarer then even femdoms not a bit more common as it would appear.

Now what happens if by a great miracle you actually meet another legit switch! Guess what? It STILL doesn't mean your out of the woods...because what if your libido heavily varies? What if your tastes are different? What if you can't stand each other?

Because being a switch when you get down to it is a simple part of a being a person. It alone wont make a relationship or a person. So naturally if the other stuff together with the switch doesn't mesh well for you...naturally your out of luck aren't you? Got to start over.

Even the most vanilla of relationships requires a submissive and dominant partner. Its only in BDSM do they really start to get freaky with it.

Literally a vital part of EVERY relationship.

Switches are unique in that their problems plague both sexes and they suffer the bad of all in exchange for the 'good' of all. It does not however consider how hard it is to actually take advantage of the possibility! Because in reality all its REALLY offering you is a share of all the troubles for a 'chance' of all the pleasures. With a special heaping of problems JUST for your kind!

So hey if your a subby male or otherwise think its really bad/your screwed just remember this...at least you ain't a fucking switch.

Faking something your simply not isn't going to work. As for the answer your problem of not being rough enough and afraid of hurting her...that is what safe words are for.

Have a safe word and simply don't give a shit(as in acting like it) UNTIL(and IF) she uses the safe word. Until she does you get free reign to do whatever and however roughly until she can't stand it.
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>tfw unattractive and pretty much meet the criteria for being a switch
God has cursed me.
Its worth pointing out though that I HAVE met switch couples who were able to make it work... then there were those who didn't. Those who made it though I must say they were extremely happy and satisfied. They were also shockingly stable relationships due to the great difficulty they both went through to reach that point. Naturally they weren't easy to shake up.

Tough as shit couples too btw.

Sadly though they were the rarest and luckiest of switches are able to make that point. Without a doubt though they were firmly among the most shockingly stable/happy couples I ever seen despite their apparent age(as in pretty young but reminded me of one of those sweet old happy couples tier) and situation in life.

But when you consider all the shit they had to go through to reach that point...its not really a big surprise. Rather it would actually be much more shocking if they WEREN'T like that.
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It's over for 99% of us you are garbage no one wants you nobody ever will. you will be ridiculed and ignored for the rest of you're days. nobody is going to save you.

You me and like many many others will simply die off un loved and unwanted. No remorse not a single person who will go out of there way and save you from depression and

This is you're answer to them. The only choice pic related you're call.
(ignore this post, it's just whining)
This thread is physically painful for me to read now. There's just absolutely no hope, is there? I've been browsing these threads for so long and only now it's sunk in.

I don't care about getting my peepee stimulated or whatever. I don't care about sex. I just want to be loved, knowing that she won't get tired of me when she sees that I'm shy and trade up. I've always hung onto the idea that even if these kind of women are extremely rare, they still exist, and maybe someday if I keep improving myself I'll find someone who just wants to take me for herself. But I know that my market value will always be low, so incredibly low that I'm entirely disposable, just trash that someone uses to entertain themselves for a while and then throw away. Any relationship that I do find myself in, by some miracle, will just be one of her wanting sex from me for a while and then getting bored of me and moving on.

I could only be wanted, actually wanted (not in the "this is the best I can do for now" kind of want) if I'm incredibly good looking. But that's just beyond reach of any kind of work I could put into myself. I can't be like any of these anons and trick myself into thinking there's anything legitimately desirable about me.

I've always read you guys' posts and thought it was silly and melodramatic to want to kill yourself over something like this. Like, just have some motivation, work hard and have hope and someday everything will be alright. But I seriously can't see any other option now. I wish I never started browsing these threads and entertaining the hope that I could be loved like a woman.
Wew thank fuck they spend this effort in censoring this lewd picture. How horrific it would be to have the bars removed! Oh no! The degeneracy!
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Cheer up, anon. There's nothing wrong with the need to feel desired.
We're all fucked desu, no ifs and buts about it

I'm not gonna kill myself yet though, still have shitposting to do
Right there with you man, I would take a pic but I'm really fucking comfy right now
Hey anon at least your not a fucking switch.

...seeing some of these replies I am afraid that I just triggered another suicide wave.

So if so...oops.

Now I could try to make things sound more pleasant or you know ways to find them but...but fuck its grim.

Due to rarity of switches many switches attempt to 'force' a relationship and push it just keep pushing it. Naturally this is quite hazardous to both switches...but because switches are so rare and they so desperate they will try anyway even if it may be clear that it isn't going to work out.

For finding switches...I can't really say I know much of anything besides the usual socializing and trying to get to know people enough that kind of info slips out.

Funnily enough in my attempts to encounter other switches i accidentally sniffed out a few femdoms in a process instead. Which did lead to a few amusing conversations I've had with femdoms.
That would be a mistake.
>Hey anon at least your not a fucking switch.

I don't care about whatever D/S sex dynamic it is. I just think the only women capable of loving me are those who don't mind taking the lead and pursuing me and actually wanting to keep me and not throw me away. Which would be considered "dominant" by most people's standards

I also doubt what you're saying about switches too. BDSM has been around for ages and many people have been attracted to it simply because they think both roles are interesting. They may default to sub or dom but I'm sure there are times when they would play the opposite role.
Their is hope just no one is willing to save men and women here suffering so there might as well be none. People pretend to care and tell you to don't give up you're gonna be fine don't kill yourself. But in reality their saying you're not good enough for me because you're shit please kill yourself.

If you truly all truly cared you wouldn't be here you would be getting together and trying to help them but you're not and it's bullshit. Every time somebody kill themselves is another soul you could of saved but you didn't and let him die so who is the real monster here?
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I've unknowingly helped a friend out of it, and they seemed completely fine until they decided to talk about how I was there for them later.

I highly doubt that any anon here would confess that they're dragging around feelings of emptiness, melancholy and hopelessness in real life if directly confronted. I sure wouldn't.
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