>>24048692 I never consented to being born. The only reason I exist is because my parents decided they needed something to keep themselves busy for two decades. Therefore, I defer responsibility for my entire existence onto them. I am an effect, not a cause, I am a genetic liability, not a genetic investment. I will have no children of my own, and I will not take care of my parents in old age, they will be forced to take care of me as long as they live.
We are the product of the previous generation's egotistical wish to nurture. And when I turn 18 I'm suddenly supposed to be "independent" or "responsible", according to some arbitrary societal construct that is. Cared for when cute and small, thrown aside the moment my voice drops and my facial hair grows out, forced to slave away for another 50 years only to regain my freedom when I'm old and broken.
I say no to that, I will leech off my parents and state until either I die or they die, or the state itself collapses.
Conveniences like easily accessible nourishment and technology. An education.
As a concept, nothing. I did not ask to be born, so I am not obligated to pay for my existence. However, it is in my best interest to at least attempt to maintain the status quo so that I can continue to reap the benefits.
>>24048692 Nothing. The concept of 'owing" is silly anyways. Just because someone does something for you, you have to do something for them? That's easily exploitable; someone could keep doing things for you and you'd be obligated to do things for them in some sort of social convention slavery.
I don't really have a foundation to proceed from in answering this question. On one hand I really owe everything to society, I wouldn't exist how I am without it, but on the other hand I never asked to be here.
I don't know. I don't think it's a meaningful line of questioning.
>>24048692 Owe society? I owe it to myself to fix this shitty piece of shit I call my society. Improving everything else for the betterment of myself, and those people I enjoy and like. I'm not a faggot, like most of you.
>>24048692 >pay your taxes >work so you can live >you can be drafted at any time >you have to follow all these laws, even the stupid ones that make no sense OK, so can I have a job that isn't unskilled manual labour? >Society doesn't owe you anything!
>>24048692 My life. I should have died as a child, but some scientists came up with a regiment to prevent a certain disease from being spread from mother to child. I may or may not have increased cancer risk, but it is a small price to pay.
It's a debt I can't ever repay. At the very least, I'd like to contribute a positive thing back to society.
>>24051149 I guess I kinda agree with this guy. I don't feel like I should even contribute to society because I disagree with so many points and I feel so disconnected from it and it punishes me when I don't fit in exactly like they want me to.
I'm trying to just live for myself, no matter how selfish that sounds.
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