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Is it possible to go from, say, pre-algebra to calculus without a high school or university education?

Is learning math without the aid of an educational facility possible?

Would it take less time? More time?
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Calculus is easy
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Of course it's possible.

But why in the fuck would you only wanna stop at calculus?
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If you can do algebra well you can learn Calculus pretty easily
calculus is just fancy algebra

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What are the images inside your head (memories, imagination and dreams) actually made of?
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>>8342202
State.
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Electricity
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>>8342229
This

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Would a Neanderthal baby kidnapped from the past and raised by humans in modern society be able to adapt and thrive in today's world?
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>>8342100
Yes
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It would probably be more intelligent, neanderthals had bigger brains and better eye sight
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>>8342110
Better eye sight means more brain power needed, pleb, and they were bigger generally

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Please tell me there's some scientific theory that says our thoughts are somehow still in motion after our brains stop functioning, almost like a dream simulator (which would explain why so many people "see heaven"). I need there to be some basis for my belief that anime women will be waiting for me on the other side.
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What you're talking about is a near death experience, which is your brain hallucinating because it's dying. It's like a video game glitching out before it crashes.
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>>8342087
Your brain releases a bunch of chemicals before you die, if I recall correctly DMT is one of those. It's like being forced on a drug trip with all kinds of trippy side effects. If your love of anime is strong enough you'll probably hallucinate about that. It's nothing you can't achieve through a properly made drug cocktail though.
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>>8342087

>Please tell me there's some scientific theory that says our thoughts are somehow still in motion after our brains stop functioning

There isn't. Have you ever been under anesthesia, op? Death is like that except without the part where you wake up. Which is to say death isn't like anything at all since anesthesia just seems like instant time travel between the point when you're put under the point when you're woken up.

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For as long as I can remember, I've heard a rather significant buzzing or static noise around appliances and other electronic equipment in general, it's not all the time but it's often enough for it to have weirded me out for quite a while now, most of the time I barely notice it, however there's times where the noise is so loud that it downright overwhelms me, not only because of the sound itself but because I literally feel a vibration inside my head when it happens, and these only go away if I distance myself from the object originating the noise, when...
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It's probably just coil whine
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I feel u anon. Happened to me a lot last year, but doesn't happen as much anymore. Maybe my head got used to it and just labelled it as bg noise
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I also hear it. Don't sweat

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RIP IN PEPPERONI MATHEMATICIANS

https://intelligence.org/2016/09/12/new-paper-logical-induction/
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>>8341931
Okay I'm fucking stupid. Somebody explain this shit to me in a way a normal person can understand, and why does it blow mathematicians out?
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>>8341960
Somebody finally went and made a long-fabled automatic theorem prover that actually works. Now we can use supercomputers to automatically discover new mathematical concepts at a far faster rate than before. There will be all sorts of crazy new discoveries that will end up revolutionizing the applied sciences.
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>>8341994
Really? That's pretty fucking cool Anon. At what rate would mathematical concepts be discovered? And what is the estimated time before any new concept discovered be applied?

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>science
>it ain't free
Any decent journals out there that don't cost an arm and a leg? Am poor uni student interested in microbiology/biochemistry, genetics, pathology, and urgent care medicine
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>>8341879
doesn't your uni have subscriptions?
either way, you dont just go and lurk journals like you do 4chan. talk to a professor and tell him you wanna do research
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>>8341887
>lurk journals like you do 4chan
Wait, you're supposed to talk to people in academia?>
>doesn't your uni have subscriptions?
They do but I want to take them home.
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scihub lmao

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I apologize profusely that the following post will be /x/ as fuck but I'm not trying to prove ghosts or anything, I need advice from fellow scientists as to what to do when you don't believe in ghosts at all (obviously) yet have an experience that you just cannot explain. I'm sure someone else here must know this feel. it's very conflicting.

>Spend night at a friend's house
>Come back 5am, go to bed
>Wake up entire family is in kitchen arguing loudly

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>>8341877
>I'm the rational one so I now dismiss
Keep tell yourself that, you braindead degenerate. Talking yourself up doesn't make it so.
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>>8341877
>argueing about how they heard the door slam open
Thats how i know you are lying. You got too specific too fast, if the noise woke them up likely nobody would have known what the fuck the noise was from. They especially would not be aware of which direction the door was traveling when it made the noise. You live in an apartment, there was likely someone next door or above/below you that slammed their door and you heard it. The mark in the wall is probably from someone in your apartment...
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>>8341877
>They all say nope they all ran out of their rooms immediately after to check and the door was locked
How do you know one them wasn't sleep walking, slammed the door open, and then closed and bolted the door. As first family to come down after the loud noise arrived they came to and were equally surprised at what they saw, and possibly heard, as the arriving family member. Perhaps they came to and realized they were sleep walking and slamming doors but lied about what happen. How...
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>math is racist and oppressive to minorities and women!
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have you checked your mathematical privilege yet today?
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>>8341674
I was literally just about to make this thread:
>http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/technology/weapons-of-math-destruction/
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>>8341674
>weapons of math destruction

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Does science make your acceptance of death any easier?
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Yep.
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I think it's subjective.
To me, it just got worse the more i learned. I fucking hate death man and I can't cope with it.
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>>8341667
What made it worse?

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So, explain me why we can't use Magnets for perpetual motion free energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmdKVecQhXs
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>>8341651
Because the petrol companies are enslaving us.
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>>8341651
we actually don't "know" why. the laws of thermodynamics are empirical.

>inb4 statistical thermo meme
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>>8341651
Go start a company and sell them then.

Oh wait

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<neat>
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Hey neighbor! Do you like fish too?
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transcript:
"THE HUMANS KNOW, SHUT IT DOWN"
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>>8341458
Wow, we have like sooo much in common. We should hang out more!

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assume that you are gambling/investing whatever you want to call it

everytime you do it, you have a 51% or higher chance of succeeding. does this mean you will inevitably (>99%) make a net profit over a sufficient number of times?
what function do you use to figure this out?
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>>8341334
No. It's possible that you would lose every game for all time
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>>8341334
What you are describing is literally called the gambler's fallacy
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>>8341334
Your story doesn't give us any idea of what the EV is. How much are you losing when you lose and how much are you winning when you win?

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Being "nerdy" and "into science", albeit superficially, has recently become a fad within the general public.

>When did this start?
>Has this always been there and it's just now being popularized? If so, why?
>Is this a good or bad thing? It seems stupid, but it does make science more relevant....

thoughts?
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>>8341307
The mainstream-mainstream (pop music, sports, gay shit in general) is being broken and now more people expect better conversation, which is why now people do shit like watch entry level bad TV shows like Game of Thrones and the like to make better conversations.

You are kinda socially expected to watch entry level bad TV shows like GoT now.

But you can't always carry a conversation with a TV show so what else will you talk about? That balding science guy you saw that one time talking about time and...
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>>8341307
yes
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>>8341307
no

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Alice(pink) and Bob(blue) are chilling in a space station orbiting a black hole. Alice then decides she has had enough of Bob's bullshit and decides to end herself in the singularity, inside the Black Hole's event horizon(red). Bob gets pissed and after thinking for some time comes to the conclusion that Alice was a cunt so he readies the station's laser canons(green) and fires in a trajectory he knows is going to hit Alice before she is crushed by tidal forces. Bob then goes on with his life in orbit aboard the space station.

Should Bob be accused of murder...
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only dilemma here is whether or not you care that you killed someone who was already about to die moments later intentionally
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>>8341203
Just because he didn't see it doesn't mean he didn't kill her
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>>8341245
She could have turned the thrusters on and even though she could never leave, she could have lived the rest of her life in her pod inside the event horizon.

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How do you deal with Imposter/Fraud Syndrome? I'm just beginning bachelor thesis, and i honestly feel like they'll finally find out.

Additionally, i'm starting a job as a math teacher where my students are 17-18 years old. It should be pretty easy, but i'm still afraid of not understanding it.

So, how do you guys cope with the feels?
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>>8341167
>So, how do you guys cope with the feels?
I sit in a corner and cry
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>>8341167
what is the name of the syndrom where you are terrible and feel terrible ? The Ph.D. syndrom ?
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Imposter syndrome is not real. You're just trying to rationalize away your idiocy and lack of understanding of BASIC material...

I'm sorry but if you haven't done anything about it until now, you'll never manage

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Why the hell do we need the first gorillion digits of pi or more fucking prime numbers? What a waste of time and money!
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My primary school math teacher challenged us to memorize pi's decimals till the first zero.

I still remember them: 3.14159265358979323846264338327950 (didn't Google)
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>>8341058
We don't need more digits of pi than 3.14

People who obsess over that are just autists.

Prime numbers are another story though. Knowing big prime numbers is important because for security reasons, we want to construct long numbers which have reaaaally big primes as factors.

Obviously, right now we have enough prime big primes but in the future the primes that today are big will be too easy to find by big computers and the future algorithms of prime factorization, so mathematicians working...
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You'll be sorry when you're flying your rocket ship and it suddenly blows up because the programmer forgot to program in that extra digit of pi.

we all know that higher stock prices = less price volatility in terms of % change, and lower stock price = higher price volatility in %

but whats the actual formula that most accurately describes this relationship?

anyone rich here?
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>>8341027
>we all know

I didn't know that so you are wrong.
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>>8341027
my daddy gibs me money :3
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>>8341034
man up and get a job you neckbeard

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What's /sci/'s opinion on Pangaea?
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Pangea good :D
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>>8340993
It definitaly does not looked like that.
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It's okay, I guess, 5/10.

Was that what you were asking?

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>studying math and computer science
>sit among the last rows at the lecture hall
>some people arrive half an hour late
>among them a girl
>I let them seat next to me because... no places remained
>everyone is taking notes and acting mature
>the girl starts complaining and acting loud about how it's hot, how she can't concentrate, etc.

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nuh-huh
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nuh-huh
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>>8340894

This is why you don't let women near higher education.

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What does sci think of this man?

Can we at least agree he's better than black science man?
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>Michio Quaku, the string theory memer
not even once
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>>8340888
>Can we at least agree he's better than black science man?
If we're talking about smart then yes.
They're both memes anyway.
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>>8340923
>Kaku has had more than 70 articles published in physics journals such as Physical Review, covering topics such as superstring theory, supergravity, supersymmetry, and hadronic physics.[6] In 1974, Kaku and Prof. Keiji Kikkawa of Osaka University co-authored the first papers describing string theory in a field form.[7]

>Kaku is the author of several textbooks on string theory and quantum field theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michio_Kaku

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Are there any real scientific arguments against eugenics or is its opposition based mainly around feels due to le ebil sixty million man?
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Eugenic policies eventually lead to a loss of genetic diversity, resulting in inbreeding depression instead due to a low genetic variation.
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>>8340883
humans evolved to feel empathy for their peers, and thus a "cruel" eugenics program would likely cause deep emotional distress with large segments of the population, who would then distress all of their friends and family.
this looks like it would lower effective productivity of a nation's industry by a large margin.

also eugenics programs in animals do not produce the most "effective" organisms.

also you can't breed away female inferiority.
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>>8340883
yes, it requires centralization of a competitive system. centralization of competitive systems does not work

it's the communist side of genetic

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A little more time and this year ends
You think the CERN-LHC manage to find dark matter or perhaps supersymmetry?
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>>8340873
supersymmetry is dead
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>>8340873
>dark matter (cosmology)
>supersymmetry (probably don't even know what spin means in particle physics)
do you even know why CERN was created?
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>>8341699
Higg's boson?

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>want to go into chemistry
>go into chemical engineering because "muh shekels"
>chemE is literally Steam: The Degree
Why is steam so goddamn useful /sci/
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>Steam

Is this a computer program or are you talking about water vapor?
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>>8340874
Not op but prob vapor
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>>8340874
Water vapor

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16 credit hours and working 40 hours a week. I though I could handle it I'm getting my ass handed to me. People recommend adderall, I don't want to have to rely on it and it's expensive, but i looks like I have to at this point. Anyone have experience using it to power through a large work load? Should I?
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Is your job important? Or will it become superfluous once you finish your education?
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>>8340709
Grow up, you sound like a little girl. Go ahead and take drugs and become a little whore princess for daddy.
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Yes goyim buy our drugs to earn me.. er.. you more money heheheheheheheheheh

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>He thinks he can reach human-level AI by 2019

will he do it bros?
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serious question: what the fuck is human level ai
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>>8340698
We want to make our computers dumber so that our computers also need to invent computers so that they can do simple calculations like the prime factorization of 348398293982.

But obviously, we want our computers to also take 100 thousand years to build their computer-computers.

Or at least that is what I think. That is literally human level intelligence.

In other words: OP is retarded.
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>>8340710
That post made no sense. Gtfo.

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What did you write about for your Senior Thesis?

Math and science majors of all stripes welcome.

I'm lost, myself- I want to write about game theory but I can't think of any application that interests me enough to write 50 pages about it.
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Go to Wikipedia and search game theory. There's a tab filled specifically with game theory applications.
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>>8340687

I don't have to write my senior thesis this year but given that I like algebra I've been thinking about doing my thesis on that topic.

Has anyone here ever done a senior thesis (or I guess a minor publication as a PhD or PhD student works too) in group theory? In what did you apply it? How much group theory did you know before you were able to get your results?

Math major here so I don't really need to apply it to physics or chem, can basically do it about whatever I want because all...
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>>8340893
Bump.

No group theory experts here? What could an undergrad do with it?

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Can we get a textbook thread going? Request a subject you want to learn, someone posts a good textbook. Post textbooks you learned a lot from in other fields.

>Pic related
I want to learn some more in depth EE than what they teach in mechanical/mechatronics courses. Heard this was good. Am I right or are there better books?

Posting textbooks I found good:
>Engineering mathematics, K.A Stroud
>Thermodynamics: an engineering approach Cengel+Boles
Literally anything...
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List, please, good (Real) Analysis multivolume series with ~1500 pages or more. I begin:
1) Zorich's Analysis (I & II volumes)
2) Amman/Escher's Analysis (I - III volumes)
3) Knapp's Basic Real Analysis and Advanced Real Analysis.
...
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Need a good multi variable/vector calculus text book.

Books I found good-
Gen. Chem: Zumdahl&Zumdahl
Linear Algebra: Lay (Linear Algebra and its Applications)
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>>8340863
Edwards & Penney is what MIT OCW uses ... I thought it was OK

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What is the /x/ of /sci/?
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>>8340548
nigga there's no such thing xD
anything remotely off mainstream is getting raged at by >>>/x/ fags xD
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>>8340548
big bang
evolution
agw
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>>8340612
gtfo, meme flinging monkey

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Which fields of engineering are the most difficult in terms of mathematical abstraction in the undergraduate level? I already realize all of them are pretty low tier in math until you reach graduate level material.
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>until you reach graduate level material.
Do they ever go into abstract math? I'd think the more mathematical parts of later engineering are the numeric and algorithmic things, which is going into the opposite of abstraction (different differentiation schemes are something hands on, whereas e.g. defining paracompact topologies is an act of abstracting from some property of the reals.)
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My ee professor does research into fractional order differentiation and some kind of work on infinite matrices that i dont know much about and another guy here who ran the ME department worked on new solutions to some type of inverse matricee he had to have to finish his thesis back in the 70s. That kind of stuff seems pretty in depth to me but im no mathematician.
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>>8340525
Yeah, for dealing with fractional differential operators you need to set up function and functional spaces that can be equipped with good topologies (i.e. "how can I steal as many theorems from C^1 and C^2, what do I need for that in this autistic case I'm considering") and the second most likely also deals with odd norms.


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