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Barnett's Identity - what does it mean in layman's terms?
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Read the paper

https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/233602815/Barnetts-Identity-Pdf1
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>>8180607
>https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/233602815/Barnetts-Identity-Pdf1
Where is the famous triple integral on that paper?
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>>8180605
all the most important symbols in mathematics finally grouped in one equation
what a time to be alive

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What is outside the universe?
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We don't know. We'll probably never know.

God?
Gods?
More universes?
Or just nothing?

You choose what you believe anon
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The universe isn't something. It is everything.
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>>8180408
define the universie

define outside the universe

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Is there any correlation between general relativity and quantum mechanics? And why no/yes?

I posted this question on r/askscience with no replies. Long time lurker here, and other forums, imageboards etc... this is the first time I interact with the community that taught me so much for the past 5 years (thank you for that.) I'm aware that the answer to my question is either no or "we don't know." But I've been having a lot of thought experiments lately that lead me to believe that a correlation does in fact exist. I'm not a theoretical physicist...
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>>8180393
There are several theories/fields of study, see for example QFT, I don't know what exactly you mean by "correlation", I assume you mean the fields of study that try to unify the mathematical constructs/laws of GR and QM,

Also if you don't know about these fields you probably don't have the mathematical maturity to accomplish what you are trying to do, start with studying introductory texts in GR and QM then pick up mathematical physics; http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki/Physics_Textbook_Recommendations


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>>8180393
no because both of the fundamental equations of both systems break down under certain conditions.

QFT gives you arbitrarily large scattering probabilities at a high enough energy.

Whereas quantizing gravity is unrenormalizable so produces infinities done through the eyes of qm/qft.

We will reconcile these at one energy level using a new theory.
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>>8180429
I know about about Quantum field theory, and I'm aware that most physicist agree that Quantum electrodynamics explains a "correlation" between QM and Special relativity.
Can "Dark Energy" or "Dark matter" help us with the GR & QM dilemma.

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What's /sci/'s opinion of Joe Rogan? Is he the philosopher-scientist of a generation?
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>>8179594
kek
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>>8179594
He is an idiot. He touches upon scientific fields, which is good because it at least exposes his moronic fans to things other than...well...You can imagine the kind of horseshit his fans must expose themselves too.

I mean he hosted Fear Factor for Christs sake. His credibility is as soft as cooked elk cock.
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Big fan of Rogans podcast and enjoy his commentary on ufc

With that being said, his podcast is mainly Bro Science, Bro/Hippie philosophy. His guest are usually the same deal, ocassionally he will get a legit guest that fully knows what their talking about and has hard facts to back them up

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Not sure if this is the correct board for this question but I just dug this out of my front yard and have no fucking clue what it is. It's from the Southern Appalachian area. Any help would be appreciated
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Bottom view
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>>8179518
I knew I should have went to /b/...
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>>8179540
You sure burned me...Now what the fuck is that thing?

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Lately I have been reading books on the science behind metallurgy. Fun stuff... However, I can't apply this knowledge to anything as I am just a computer programmer.

I hate learning things abd not being able to use it. I am crazy about metals and alloys abd learning about them but what use is it?

Basically learning about certain things seems useless.

Do you try to apply everything you learn?
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Well you could always kill yourself.
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>>8178253
Knowledge for its own sake is still valuable
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>>8178278
Doesn't sound reasonable.

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Should I be worried about eating fish from an Aquaculture?
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>>8177767
Yes but it's too late, you'll probably already die.
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>>8177767
I think the fish should be worried.
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>>8177767
>worried
No. Norwegians and the Japanese eat a lot of this especially salmon and both groups do pretty well in terms of life expectancy and health.

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No.
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No.
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>>8176360
Can i have an explanation too please?

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Thanks pop/sci/, for giving people a false understanding of pseudoscience. I thought it might be interesting to take a Facebook quiz on pseudoscience. Besides half of it being global warming melting ice sheet propaganda, I stumbled on this gem. Tell me what you think, /sci/, is someone at the North Pole really moving faster than someone at the equator?
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>>8175681
*slower
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>>8175681
>makes thread mocking pseudoscience
>global warming denialist

kek?
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>>8175681
>I never took physics 101

Kek good one faggot. The surface speed of the equator is larger than that of either of poles. While they both cover the same angle in the same amount of time, the equator covers a greater distance.

Speed is given by distance over time (Which is why we measure it in kilometres or miles/hour). If the distance is larger so too will be the speed.

Git gud brainlet

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I was at dinner with the family earlier and my mom went off on a tangent about how the government was poisoning us with chemicals. She said we are sicker than ever before and processed food is giving babies allergies because the parents ate the food. She said this knowing that I'm in med school and everything she said drives me crazy. I bit my tongue because I'm an adult and I don't get in arguments in restaurants. Is there some way to get rid of the propaganda she's swallowed or should I just stick her in a nursing home before she gets worse?

Pic...
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>>8175632
Shes right though

Gmo
Vaccine
Chemtrails
Flint michigan
Bp

I could cherry pick for days
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>>8175636
only flint and bp are remotely true and they are due to corruption and incompetence not an intentional plot
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>>8175632
ask her why the very sushi she ate just now shouldn't have had chemicals in it too?

You don't win the argument this way but you can enjoy your silence for the rest of your meal.

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Hello, /sci/. This will be the first lecture in a series I will be giving here on Brave New Algebra. We will be starting from rudimentary set theory. This thread is meant to be a discussion place, so if anybody has any questions, feel free to ask. Shitposting is accepted but discouraged.

A set is naively a collection of things. We will start by imposing the axioms of Zermelo-Fraenkel set theory, coupled with the axiom of choice (sue me). But first, some definitions.

Two sets are equal, written A=B, if, given any element x, x is in A if and only if x is in B.

The...
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Now, the axioms.

1. Given sets A and B, there is a set AUB so that x is in AUB if and only if x is in A or x is in B.

2. Given any two sets A and B, there is a set C so that A and B are elements in C.

3. Given any set A, there is a set P(A):={S : S is a subset of A}.

4. Two sets are equal if they contain the same elements.

5. Every set A contains an element B such that A and B are disjoint. (That is, they have an empty intersection: they share no elements.)

6. (informally:) Given any formula p in the language of set theory defined over...
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Let's discuss ordinals.

Definition. An ordinal is a set S such that every element in S is also a subset of S, and so that set membership defines a strict well-ordering on S.

Exercise. Show that the empty set is an ordinal, and show that no element is less than the empty set (it is the minimal ordinal).

With {}=0 the smallest ordinal, we can inductively define the successor of an ordinal S(k) to be the powerset of k. Ordinals form a proper class, and they will probably turn out to be useful somewhere down the line. I figured we should have them under our belt.
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Time to talk about functions.

Let f:A->B be a function. For any element b in B, the fiber f^-1(b) is the set of elements in a such that f(a)=b.

Exercise. Show that a function is surjective if and only if the fiber over every element in the codomain is nonempty. Show that a function is injective if and only if the fiber over every element in the codomain is isomorphic to either the point (the set {*}) or the empty set. Characterize a bijective function (one which is both surjective and injective) in terms of fibers.

Given a function f:A->B, the image...
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>speed is the change in position
>acceleration is the change in speed
what is the change is acceleration?
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its derivative
/thread
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>>8176764
>OP pretends not to know about jerking
>...on /sci/
0/10
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+change+in+acceleration

Ya jerk.

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It's slow as fuck. Takes almost half a second to make a multiplication.

Can't do shit with it.
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>>8171213
> half second to do multiplication
you need to upgrade your pentium 2 grandpa
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>>8171218
I have Core i7.
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>>8171213
Python is for kids. C# is the true programming language.

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So I was playing some overwatch and some of the in game commentary got me thinking. I looked into the story a bit and it might actually be more realistic than you think. Basically there was a big fight over whether to give AI robots rights or not.

So I ask you /sci/, do robots with advanced enough AI deserve rights? We might not have the technology to create them yet but maybe one day we will. At what point do you think they deserve rights?
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robots don't ever deserve human rights.
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Define "rights"

As long as they abide by the 3 laws of robotics then everything should be fine. They have no more chance of becoming sentient than a toaster
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>>8170326
This. Fuck """"AI"""" "sentience"

Why are most men clueless about how to impress and seduce women?

Most men don't seem to have a clue about how to seduce women and need to consciously learn these skills through trial and error, reading books etc. Isn't this a bit of an evolutionary paradox? Shouldn't we expect men to have evolved to instinctively understand what impresses women and how to talk to them etc?

To me, the fact that most men are pretty clueless about how to seduce women strongly suggests that this wasn't a necessary skill for prehistoric men to have. Prehistoric...
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ITT: projection
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>>8169955

Not really. Even the best seducers and pickup artists all say that they weren't born knowing how to seduce women and that they've had to learn these skills through years of trial and error.
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>>8169949
Why do you assume that cavemen didnt learn how to seduce cavewomen?

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Is this the optimal food pyramid?
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Optimal in regards to what?

Health wise, all that matters is water, kcals, essential fats, essential amino acids, and certain vitamins and minerals.

Where the above is derived from is not important.
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>>8178173
>le vegetables are healthy xD
I want this meme to die.
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>>8178184
Fat the good fat.
But it's right, red meat is at least 50% saturated fat.

You lied to me /sci/.

You told me science was something honorable and something that non-plebs pursue.

You promised me science would lead to lucrative careers

You told me science allowed freedom that other jobs don't.

Science is literally a meme.
Science is underpaid
Science is spending countless hours searching for knowledge that will never be directly applied.

Science as it's portrayed is lie.
PhDs are overrated.
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mfw chemistry phd since 500 BC and still on 4chan
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>>8177429
>math PhD
>300k starting
>any job I want
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>>8177429
>Science is spending countless hours searching for knowledge that will never be directly applied.

Where does it say science needs to be applied. Go do engineering.

Will humans be able to colonize other planets and galaxies?
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>>8181287
Planets, yes.

Galaxies, no.
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>>8181358
why not, really?
if we go by the notion that the existing scientific endeavors will develop further, it could be anyone's guess.
cryogenics is still a debated thing, uploading consciousness to preserve a mind is also a viable method.
Why would you think we couldn't simply fling an inert spore-like ship to estimated trajectories of other galaxies?
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Not galaxies, other than Andromeda, Triangulum, and the surrounding dwarf galaxies unless we invent FTL travel.

Planets, definitely.

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>"The Speed of Light"

Today I learned Light doesn't have an absolute speed and changes depending on your reference frame.

So Light can be emitted from a star that's traveling at 1 million mph and then Light's speed is C + 1 million mph.

Why did Science lie to me?
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that's called blueshifting. You can't add up colinear velocities when dealing with waves.
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>>8182177
> plebs on this board
> sum the velocity when dealing with relativity
seriously do some research before posting.
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>>8182177
>blaming science for your idiocy
But hey, I'm no better, replying to a shitposter and all.

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I got this question from my professor for homework and I want to see what some /sci/tards get. Explain your reasoning. I got 5000 +/-500

>The following type of question is called a Fermi question, and you are to do it without using anything except your pencil and paper: How many average-sized sewing needles will fit into an average-sized coffee mug?
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no takers?
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>>8181992
No this Fermi problem is boring.
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>>8181994
pussy

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Hey /sci/.

What would it take to breed sapience into a non sapient species?
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are you retarded?
just pick the smartest animals from the litter, and breed on with that, and so on.
it's not that fucking hard.
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god

>>8181464
total shitpost
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>>8181408
get the ones that communicate to bang eachother

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Can math notation be improved?
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>>8181209
Yes, the current notation is shit and difficult to understand for people new to it. Notation should give hints to what it's underlying symbols mean. I think we should all take just take a hint from programming and use natural language followed by an arguments list. E.g.

Integrate(LeftBound, RightBound)
Union(Set1, Set2)
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>>8181342
>notation
>art
what
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>>8181209
yeah, computers

hover mouse over notations, get explains

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How about a proof thread? No matter if babby math, advanced math, CS theory or logic. Post your proofs here. Ill start.
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>>8181015
IF a halt function exists then:

void halting_troll( void (*funfun)(void*) ){
if(halt(funfun, (void*) funfun))
while(1){}
return;
}

would be valid but what is the result of >halt(halting_troll, (void*) halting_troll);
QED
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>>8181015
>Look at me, I'm so [eqn]smart[/eqn]! I wrote a proof in [eqn]latex[/eqn]!
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>>8181048
>>8181067
>actual question about serious topic (propably the only topic you can't really fight about)
>agressive shitposting-reply + "you did it to difficult"-reply

I fucking love you /sci/.

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Shinichi Mochizuki has written a new paper:
>http://www.kurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~motizuki/Alien%20Copies,%20Gaussians,%20and%20Inter-universal%20Teichmuller%20Theory.pdf
Pic related: it's an excerpt from the paper.
Discuss.
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>>8180994
His writing is horrible, is this even peer reviewed or just a rant?
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2deep4me
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>>8181006
Please don't shitpost. I know that it's funny that his developments are very complicated and indecipherable, but he actually makes an effort to make it more accessible. He just made a 115-page survey of his theory.

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My stats professor told me that the larger the sample size the more trustworthy the data.
I guess the N's justify the means.
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>>8180531
No well respected scientist uses a mean. You meant to say the N's justify the medians.
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Youre not remotely funny
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>>8180540
Fuck you it was a bit funny.

Fucking critics.

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Why are scientists obliged to behave like mature adults?
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>>8180521
they aren't. they're just actually intelligent and maturity comes naturally from intelligence.
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>>8180537
>Comes naturally from intelligence
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>>8180521
>scientists
Don't confuse scientists with the travesty that is Hollywood depiction of scientists.

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I just learned that there's a "planet 9" so bear with my ignorance here please.

How could something that big that close to us not have been already discovered? In the wiki article it says it's distance to sun is between 200 and 1200 AU and it's approximately the size of neptune (2-4 times the diameter of Earth). Would something that big that close not pop out noticably from the background when they do their "sweeps" of the sky like they do?
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>that close
Mean Pluto's distance from the sun is 40AU. And it's dark out there m8.
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200 to 1200 AU is stretching the definition of 'close' a bit.
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>>8180406
Even 1200 AU is less than 0,02 light years so it's not that far away in the context of SPACE and the stuff we've been able to detect like all these possibly earth-like planets out there.

Pic related the small blue circle in the middle is Earth's orbit and purple is Neptune.

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A physicist and a mathematician are roommates together in a house.

They both use the kettle on the counter to heat water for tea, pick up the pot, fill it with water then onto the stove.

The physicist wants to play a trick on the mathematician so he places the kettle on the ground.

Later the mathematician comes in and looks at the pot on the ground, picks it up and places it on the counter, pauses, picks it up again and finally makes tea.
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wat
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He's probably wondering why his roommate is such an autistic fedora wearer as he picks up other silverware from the floor while his roommate is chuckling and tipping his hat at him

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Viscerally hated math for almost all my life, and I want that to change
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>>8180187
I used to tutor math act/sat prep.
I can give you a complete list of what will be on the test. Then you should read about the ideas and try problems from different places.

I'm at work so I can't do it right now.
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Generally, the people who hate math are those that don't truly understand the concepts, or they understand a concept enough to do well on a test that evaluates understanding of that one concept.
I recommend buying or renting another textbook that can show different approaches, some texts explain the reasoning and can help you have a more conceptual understanding rather than- use this formula you've memorized and plug n chug, then forget the formulas and principles after the test
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>>8180187
Id like to learn math properly too, Ive always been fascinated by ppl who do it good, but since elementary school I was frustrated when teachers insisted on solving problems certain way, and sometimes I could get solution my way.

Also, too many teachers rushed trough the course, there was always too big of a gap between first few problems and mid tier problems.

Many textbook authors think you somehow just know that you need to apply some shit in mid tier problems, while it was not done in first few.

Those...
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How was this derived? I know why it is equal to (n-1)! and why it satisfies the condition x * G(x) = G(x+1), but I don't know what process was used to discover the function in the first place. How do you start out trying a curve to fit the factorial function and end up here?
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>>8180085
Iva also wanted to know this for a while
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pick a small n (0,1,2)
integrate it by hand
see the pattern?
>yes
you are done
>no
increase n by one, integrate again
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>>8180085
Yea I'm pretty curious about this as well


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