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>magnitude of cross product gives you the area between 2 vectors

>triple product gives you the volume between 3 vectors

How do you generalize into higher dimensions?
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>>8094314
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume_form
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>>8094314
Wedge product
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>>8094314
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Determinant

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Science degree or trade school? Which one earns more generally salary wise?
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>>8094263
trade school
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>>8094263

Too many variables.

Assume you're talking about a BS/BA in science. Does the science degree go to grad school, then do a post-doc, then stay in academia? Does the science degree go to industry after undergrad? After grad school? Does the science degree stay in R&D, or move to the business side?
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>>8094263
Trade school all day long.

At least then you'll have the option of doing a science degree afterwards and having a trade to fall back on. You'll be working well into your 70's these days, there's plenty of time.

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ls there any lRC out there where l could ask small questions about maths or/and physics?
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no. i used to believe in a world of infinite cool internet people as well. doesn't exist.

gl, OP.
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Do what I do. Look up the math/physics dept on a random college's website, pick a likely email address from the staff directory and tell them you're a student in one of their classes and you're curious about _____.

Helps to cross reference with the course catalog, so you can see what classes they're teaching and lie more effectively. All that info is usually public.
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>>8094276
why don't ask your own teachers instead? lmao

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By using normal weapons and with no resistance could a single man kill every human?
Thinking of how many babies are born on a global scale compared to how many people he would be able to put down.
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>normal weapons

If I have access to 'normal' weapons I'll just nuke everyone.

gg let's play again sometime op when you have a better game.
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>>8094216
If you killed one person per second, it would take about 220 years to kill everyone on earth, so no.
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>>8094246
what if you used bombs

you could kill thousands of people a second

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Can someone explain me just how much Bacteria is there in our environment and when exactly does it get harmful and just what harm can it cause?
Some example scenarios:

You take your laptop with you in college. There you put it on the tables that are used by many people. Let's say you let a guy type on it who didn't wash his hands after the toilet. At home you take that laptop in your bed and after using it you don't wash your hands and continue to touch things inside your house. What can happen?

Or if you use the keyboard in the college library that probably hasn't been washed in a long time. And then with the same hands eat a sandwich.

Or you drink a soda that you bought in a store straight from the can.

Or you step over dried bird crap that didn't stick and then take those shoes inside home.

Or you have a dog that jumps around the house and your furniture.

Or you touch the faucet in a public toilet. Isn't that full with bacteria?

And just what would happen if you sat down with you bare ass in a public toilet?

And what if despite shaking your dingus the last drop ends in your pants?

What can happen if you eat food at a cheap place that doesn't respect hygiene too much?
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>>8094212
You could attain a stronger immune system, or get a cold or things of that nature if you're unlucky. Basically unless the news headlines says 'SARS' , 'Ebola' or similar nothing very bad will happen as a result.
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there are bacteria everywhere, they live on you, they live in you, they eat your shit, they shit where you eat, you eat their shit, you cannot stop them, you need them, they can kill you

your skin is an excellent barrier, your immune system is an awesome killer, just wash your fucking hands, and don't be a germophobic dingus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiota
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You are surrounded by bacteria literally every moment of your life. Countless bacteria are living and reproducing in your gut right now.
Passive exposure to bacteria is generally beneficial, and is considered essential to the development of your immune system as a child.
Bacteria are only bad when the wrong kind get inside you and reproduce without control.
For example, the Staphylococcus bacteria that causes deadly staph infections, lives natively on your skin. It's always there. It only can kill you if it gets past your skin.
Tl;dr, bacteria is everywhere....
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What is the logic behind pic related?
I'm sure there is a reason for it, but I was never taught it and its always bothered me.

For example, whenever I do the quad formula
if -4ac turns out possessive (and following the Order of operations exponents, multiply, add/subtract) I always end up with something looking like 17 153, and multiply instead of adding.

Can anyone explain why we are taught to write like this?
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>>8094202
>possessive
positive. Fuck auto correct.
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>a - b(-c) = ab
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>>8094217
8 -5(-5) if you follow the order of operations and multiply -5 * -5 the problem now looks like 8 25.

Basically why is it that when 2 positive numbers are next to each other, by default it's assumed you are suppose to multiply, but when 2 negative numbers are together you are suppose to subtract?

Example:
if a and b are both positive, and you see
[math]ab[/math]
You know to multiply, even though if you write it out ab comes out as
[math]+a+b[/math]

and
[math]-a-b[/math]
means...
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What's the psychological explanation for why women hate and revile unwanted and undesirable men with such a passion?
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penis envy
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>>8094131
They are emotionally fucked
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>>8094131
>>>/r9k/

Can /sci/ recommend me a good book for Differential Geometry? Something I could learn from on my own
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>>8094070
Lee's smooth manifolds. Spells everything out, hence very suitable for home study.
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>>8094080
I just took a look at Lee. i think we aren't studying it so deep. We started with parametric curves in R^2 and R^3 (Tangent, Normal, binormal base). Then we got to elementary parametric surfaces with geodesic curves, first and second fundamental forms, asymptotic lines.
I need something like that for further reading
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>>8094096
Sorry I didn't realize they had internet in the 19th century.

Which one is harder and badass ?

Brain surgery or Rocket science ?
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Rocket surgery
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rocket science
t. not biased
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brain surgery
t. not biased

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Say by some freak miracle that all the world's nations became best buddies.
All war ended, all military closed down and the budget put into science and social research.

What would the world look like after a year?
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>>8093942
>all military closed down

We'd have a huge surplus of burger-flippers, low-end wages would fall.
The increase in welfare spending would further politically divide the U.S.

>and the budget put into science and social research.
STEM job crisis ends, but the extra research mostly goes into stuff with marginal returns.
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>>8093946
>STEM job crisis ends

There's a worldwide STEM job crisis?
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>>8093952
h1b Pajeet outsourcing crisis

So im reading up on chaos stuff right now but I have a few questions.

So essentially there is chaos (deterministic) and real randomness. Chaos is almost everything we declare as random (rolling a dice for example) while real randomness is essentially really rare, for example in radioactive half-life.

Are there any other examples of actual randomness?
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>>8093939
>Are there any other examples of actual randomness?
Everything that depends on quantum effects. Tunnelling (radio decay) is the easiest to explain, but basically all of quantum mechanics.
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>>8093949
Layman here. Can we prove their randomness or we just don't know what happen behind the scenes and use this approximation?
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>>8093949
Thanks, gonna read up on that and try to understand it at least a little bit

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historical accuracy aside, is this a viable idea?

how difficult would it be to make it work?
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>>8093894
They tried to do it on mythbusters
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>>8093894
Archimedes was straight balling.
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>>8093894
It's unlikely that the wood will burn
You can however burn the sails

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So what I had gathered is that maths was for the most part discovered, meaning that it would exist regardless of what we do. But does all forms of math fit this? For example: are matrices something that were discovered or something that is governed by man made rules?
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>>8093701
axioms are invented
the resulting objects and their properties are discovered.

Math wouldn't exist without us because our logic is not universal, it only makes sense to us. And that's what we use to do math.
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>>8093701
Philosophy is just structuring and formalizing in natural languages.

mathematics are about formalizations of your speculations (which you form from your desire to see things that you experience [the empirical world, once you chose to objectify what you feel] through induction, as similar or dissimilar) to the point that you have a structure more formalized than your speculations structured in natural languages.

Logic is just a the formalization of your speculations about *validity of inferences*, so...
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A lot of math, historically, came from "standard" (ie. euclidean) geometry.
So thats mostly discovery, because you can draw pictures and see how things work out.
(Our real world is approx. Euclidean 3d space)

However, once a certain formalism is established (like Cartesian coordinates, defining algebraic equations for plane curves, or axioms for deriving all known properties of geometry), one can twiddle around with that and invent new things.

Probably the most trivial example would be Euclidean 4d space, or more interesting, alternative axioms...
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Does your college run moodle? Do you like it?

I work for IT in a college and I have some weight regarding what platform we migrate to next semester. I want to know students' opinions
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>>8093608
Buggy as shit, could be worse. Homework on moodle can go suck every dick in existence though.
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>>8093618
Second
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I hear Canvas is pretty good.

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What if we just took all the CO2 from Venus and gave it to Mars

We'd have two more habitable planet just like that. It's probably LITERALLY what ancient Aliens want us to do with them, and we're sitting here wondering how to send a robot there. Fucking pathetic.
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>>8093541
CO2 won't sustain alien life. Mg4O5(g) does. The Drake Equation (d×t×x) proves this.
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>>8093541
Oh, just like that.
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>>8093541

How would you do it?

Alright /sci/ I'm doing some tutoring for some freshmen at my uni and I stumbled upon pic related.

How can we prove it by mathematical induction and just induction? I think it'll be a fair exercise.
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>>8093523
a^2+b^2=c^2 is the best avenue of solving that equation.
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>>8093523
[math]10\nmid(k^{2}+2k+2)(k+1)[/math] though, try n=3, you get 17*4 which is 68.
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>>8093528
Incorrect.

k+1=60
60-1=k
K=59

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What percentage of the planet's relative gravity is do to the fact that the planet is spinning? What percentage less would we feel if the planet was stationary?
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>>8093425
Standard gravity is inferred directly from the density of the earth at given points. This isn't the 19th century any more senpai, we don't use pendula to measure g. So if you were to drop a particle it would undergo an accelerating less than g because of the coriolis force.
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>>8093425
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_of_Earth

Check out the part in apparent gravity. It also varies by a little bit depending on your distance from the earth's axis of rotation.
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>>8093459
>>8093461
Also, the percentage would be pretty small, considering the force of gravity is dependent on the mass of the Earth, while the centripetal force is dependent on your mass (or whatever you're measuring) which will be quite a lot smaller than Earth.

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What is /sci/'s opinion on AP Physics?
>inb4 europe
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>>8093364
Mechanics C is the only useful one.

The "algebra-based" ones are retarded.

E&M needs mv-calc to be done correctly. So E&M C isn't very useful.
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>>8093376
Thank you for your input.
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>>8093364
It has an abismal passing percent, only 30% get a 3 or higher. I took it and it was very hard but very informative. Take it with no expectation to get college credits but just to learn. I'd recommend it.

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If maths is just a set of rules made by people, how can you call it objective when people could change those rules?
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>>8093359
math exists whether or not we discovered the "rules"
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they aren't invented they're discovered, please commit sudoku
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>>8093368
This. Math is discovered, not invented.

You can in fact define your own sets of mathematical rules across a space you define, and this is often done in fields such as modeling. However, such systems will either be a subset of an overall vector space, or will be inconsistent.

(Took linear algebra 101 eight years ago so I know what I'm talking about)

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I was mulling over some GR equations, when something hit me. We often say in physics that certain things can't be possible because they would violate causality, but just how well-founded is the invocation of causality to constrain a physical theory anyway?

Starting from classical physics, [math]F = ma[/math] really doesn't say anything, except to provide a meaning to the word "force", until we start attaching the implication that a force *causes* a mass to accelerate. Otherwise it, and everything else in Newtonian physics, is just a bunch of acausal...
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(cont'd)

While Newtonian gravity expressed the interaction of bodies in a basically acausal, yet simultaneous way, GR suggests that the bodies (represented by the stress-energy tensor) have an effect on the geometry of spacetime (the metric tensor), which then affects the bodies in turn (the geodetic equations). This might not be a problem, except for the fact that their exist valid solutions like the van Stocktum, Gödel, and Alcubierrie metrics allow you to create a circle of events which are still seperated by timelike intervals (closed timelike curves), which...
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because we have absolutely no experimental evidence for acausality

also metrics such as godel's do obey causality, and also just because it's a mathematical solution doesn't mean it's in any way a good physical solution

EFE break down at certain extremes, we already know this. is meme theory the way to fix that breakdown? probably not, but it sounds like you don't actually care about physics being a science (rather than physics being a study of mathematics), so i guess you'll be a great meme theorist
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>>8093369
I didn't say acausality as such had been observed, certainly not at normal scales. My question is if it's possible that causality might a) be an emergent phenomenon of something which is acausal, and b) if that causality might itself break down under extreme conditions.

As for the "not all mathematical solutions are good physical solutions", well, then we still have to explain what those constraints are and why they exist. Physics tends to follow the math quite closely. No one had ever observed...
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Researchers say the "sperm crisis" is a tough nut to bust, and "that if we keep fixing the problem, in 10,000 years no men will be producing sperm."
http://discovermagazine.com/2011/nov/12-impatient-futurist-sperm-crisis-tough-nut-crack
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Good. Women have become so cancerous to this species that we'd better be extinct than let this continue.
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>>8093291
>implying half the world's population doesn't sill live under 19th century conditions.
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>>8093291
seewhatyoudidthar

Why are there so many theorems that are completely obvious/common sense? IVT/EVT are the first ones that come to mind. Do there really need to be theorems for those things? They just state the obvious. The logic behind them just can't be refuted. So what purpose do they serve?
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yes there does
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>>8093289
yes
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>muh rigor

That's the only reason, OP. """"Higher level"""""" math is just mental S&M

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During the summer my room gets super fucking hot from the sun beating on my room in the second half of the day . We have AC and there is a vent in my room but it still gets super warm especially with a computer going.

I notice that when I walk out into the hall from my room, that there is a noticeable different temp, much cooler in the hall.

If I have a fan positioned at my room doorway, should I have it positioned in or out to make my room as cool as possible, and should it be directly at the door bounary or offset in some way?
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For the record, I think I should have it pointing into my room. I figure that the air will be coolest lower down outside my door, and forcing that air into my room will help the most, but I don't know if that is helpful with the AC also blowing into my room
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since you dont have a source of cold air input, only heat input (computer + sunlight and hot air from outside) you'll want to have the fan blowing cold air into your room

blowing the air out wont help since new hot air will replace it immediately.

blowing cold air in will reduce the temperature of the hot air in your room
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>>8093024
oh i missed that you have an AC vent. then what you could try is positioning the fan over the AC vent so it passes that cold air better through your room.

i tilt a small desk fan over my AC vent so it isnt blocking the grate and it blows cold air all through my room, whereas with the vent alone, it just hovers around that area.

since you have a lot of heat sources this would probably work best, and just leave your door open for air circulation

How do you guys stay motivated to study?

atm I feel really burnt out on math..

pic unrelated
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>>8092998
getting good grades
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Because if you dont study youre gonna end up like the guy who picks up your trash every week and barely make enough to support yourself.
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>>8093005
But sanitation workers make solid money, senpai

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/real-money-with-alivelshi/articles/2015/1/13/sanitation-gold.html

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Find a non-trivial function f(x) that satisfies:

f(ab) = a*f(b) + b*f(a)

(trivial being obviously f(x) = 0 would work -- pick something else)
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>>8092974
Looks like the product rule of differentiation...
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>>8092974
Let a = b = 1/2, f(x) = 1. Your welcome.
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>>8092982
Good one, I didn't think of that.

Now suppose a and b are real numbers not functions.

Math is more rote memorization than biology. Prove me wrong.

Forget an equation? Get a 0 and fail the exam.

Forget a fact? Write what you know, get part marks, and move on to the next question.

Who punishes who MORE for failing to memorize something?

>math
>real science
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>>8092954
>Forget a fact? Write what you know, get part marks, and move on to the next question.

Biofags really due enjoy their word vomit, don't they?
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>>8092954
>Forget an equation
It doesn't matter if you forget the equation. You can always derive it.
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>>8092954
I am not going to lie, there is some memorization in math. A lot of the times you need to memorize postulates and the most immediately useful theorems so that you can do anything.

The difference between bio and math is that the things you memorize in math there is a sense of logical continuation. Many propositions immediately follow from another so as long as you are sharp and remember just the fundamentals, you can come up with the rest.

In a recent test of set theory that I took, to prove a proposition I needed to use a tautology that at the time I did not remember was given to us. I constructed the tautology that would make the proof possible and then made the entire truth table for it, calling it a lemma, and then finishing my proof as an immediate consecuence of the lemma.

Then I checked my notes and that was one of the first tautologies we were ever taught.

However, if you forget what is in the left side of the heart you cannot take one of your classmates and fucking dissect him there to find out. You absolutely need to know that or else you are fucked forever, as you will never be able to derive it.

If you are asked to name something, you will never be able to derive the train of thought of the biologist from 300 years ago who named it, you better remember that because you will never derive it.

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Is fear of the dark an atavism caused by evolutionary psychology?

I recently moved to a rural area and I find it curious that I experience faint panic attack symptoms if I go out at night(it's almost pitch black thanks to a lack of illumination sources). Worth mentioning that I am a materialist, ergo I do not have the faintest belief in supernatural occurrences.
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fear of the unknown
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>>8092956
But why? At least in my circumstances, it's completely irrational. I'd accept it as a phobia, yet I can't pin any environmental factor or traumatic event that would cause it.

Also, it seems to be a somewhat common fear.
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>>8092978
uhh of course its common its the like the only fear all humans have. And it makes perfect sense, Going into an unknown is dangerous, especially when it's nearly pitch black, plenty of evolutionary reasons for it to be bred into us.

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A rope 1 cm wide and 100 m long is wound up. What is the diameter of the wound up rope?
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420
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>>8092838
sqrt(10000/pi) cm
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>>8092870
are you sure

I was a little unsure what board to post this on, but I decided that since it's about (hypothetical) biology that this one would be the best fit.
My question is, if futanari actually existed (in the form depicted in e.g. H-doujins), which of their... bits would they urinate out of? The way I see it, there's three possibilities:
It just comes out of one or the other always
It comes out of both at once
They can control which one it comes out of
Which one would be most likely?
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>>8092717
>futanari
>H-doujins
fuck you make me want to fap anon
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>>8092717
Both at once. Where did they gain complicated bi-valve bladder control that the rest of humans lack?
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> /sci/ - Science & Math

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Does anyone unironically enjoy this subject?
It's plug and chug, 3 pages version.

Am i wrong thinking that, as an engineer the Laplace transform is literally the only thing worth learning to solve these? Since every physics application will have initial condition anyways.
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>>8092703
That's exactly why I enjoyed it, just plug and chug!
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>>8092707
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"I obviously have no idea what I am talking about" - The Thread


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