What does /sci/ think about John B. Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment and how do you think it will reflect on humans?
I think that all the people who don't know what John B. Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment actually is about should look it up on google. Because I am just a lonesome retard who cannot imagine that people do not know John B. Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment. After all John B. Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment is so important that it received its own thread on /sci/.
Lol shut up.
I think its important but not directly transferrable to humans as mice and rats have different inherent social structures than humans. But I'm sure everyone know at least one 'pretty one'
I think it actually explains the emergence of MGTOW culture . Now I feel like a rat in a cage.
>The ‘beautiful ones’ withdrew themselves ever so quietly, removing themselves from the sick society. Solitary pursuits began to define them; eating, drinking and grooming among others. No scars on their back or hairs out-of-place, these mice behaved like a separate race. They saw the world through their narrow scopes, as they tossed, turned and tried to cope.
>In the end the population sank, even when it was back down to a tolerable level none of the mice changed back. The change was irreversible, the mice were different now. The secluded females could still bear offspring and the beautiful ones had the capacity to help produce them yet it never came.
Google MGTOW anon, its the U.S. and Great Britain as well.
The beautiful mice would mate with the females if they weren't such gold digging whores.
I want to have a rat as a pet, I wish they would sell "beautiful ones" a the petshop
Cities are unpleasant to live in and artificial to a degree, but not artificially utopian. People don't exist in them removed from the pressures they are designed for. Those mice and rats had all the food and water they needed and no predators.
Humans living in cities still have all the pressures they were designed to face, just hugely mitigated, they still need to use energy to acquire food, shelter and status. The status point is telling, we are way more complicated than mice and can use our brains to adjust to living in really terrible conditions. A utopian closed area would mince us, but we would develop a culture to cope with it.
As artificial as cities are, we can leave them if they stress us more than is worth staying for. The city then dies but individual critters move away. Humans, dogs, antelopes, any mammal would boom wither and perish in a bottle with all needs catered to. That's the point beyond that experiment.
> 3:56 All appeared as a beautiful exhibit of the species with keen, alert eyes and a healthy, well-kept body [...] Though they looked inquisitive, they were in fact, very stupid
Not him, but I assume it's like the skeletal/muscular wasting that occurs in space from lack of gravity. Basically living free of stress or want is not something we've had to adapt to, and the lack of it deprives us of what we need to maintain ourselves.
No, that's just a sign your stress system has down-regulated, sort of like how lifting your arm might feel difficult if you were forced to not move it for 6 months. It actually is indicative of the problem.
Noise. Bad air. Crowds. Traffic.
Watch city kids learn to enjoy making loud noises in the country without having to worry about who they are waking up. See the black shit at the bottom of a man's lungs and the surgeon says -yeah, lives in the city.
Read the feels threads started by nerds who callously post in rekt threads. A tight knit community would normalise you to despise such nonsense.
City people skittering around quickly, talking fast and watching out for deadly traffic full of stressed out monkeys in tons of rolling metal.
You're used to it, you have been taught cities are some great achievement. The next level is a world carpeted by villages without the isolation or crowding that urbanisation provides both of.
Work from home, be around your family, know everyone you meet. Sounds awful i know, if you're suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
There is no next level, city life is the end game.
Your pastoral fantasy is dying, m8.
>le 'city ppl rushing around meme'
Buddy, country folk rush around just as much with chores and schedules and the general daily grind.
I've lived both rural AND urban, they both have their drawbacks.
I'm liking the city so far in how not everyone is up in your fucking business all the time and have nothing better to do than gossip about each other.
>not everyone is up in your fucking business all the time and have nothing better to do than gossip about each other.
That is only really because they dont care about each other.
Gossip is only interesting when you find your neighbors interesting and care about them.
By care I dont necessarily mean like. I mean you care because what impacts them, impacts you. This is the case in smaller communities where people have larger circles of friends.
In a small town, people will often have hundreds of friends that are not coworkers , who they see or hear about regularly.
In cities ,this number is much smaller for most people.
Not impossible if you live an entire life in a small town.
The kids you went to high school with are still people you run into in the super market.
Where I live, the super markets are like cocktail parties. Its hard to get your shopping done because so many people know each other and take a moment to catch up.
People live like this. Maybe not in every small town , but it happens.
That's general relationships/knowing who someone is and what his or her 'context' is though. Maintaining a friendship requires a lot more.
But friendship is a pretty vague phrase that gets used for a large range of relationships, of course.
I define a friendship as someone I will stop and catch up with if I have not seen in a while.
Yes I have over a hundred of these.
If you call those acquaintances then fine but I know all about who these people have dated in the past, who they are with now , what struggles they have overcome. What they are working to achieve.
>a large number of mouses forcibly coexisting in a tiny room is analogous to the human society