>>7644956 Because you can't throw money at scientific progress. It requires a special mind to solve issues that are currently unsolvable. To go into Type I civilization you need to solve nuclear fusion and create a network of fusion plants to power the planet. Also the black gold is dying. Cheap oil is running out, and a lot of countries are changing to natural gas or fission power. The latter is becoming important in China and India. Two countries that consume a lot of oil.
>>7644964 africa and india havn't modernized yet and are going to go through a massive period of growth
people seem to ignore this but the world's electricity consumtion is going to more than triple very soon and this will most likely be run through coal and gas. It's ironic that pro-environment hippies basically fucked up the world more than anybody else by giving into anti-nuclear fear campaigns
>>7644964 You can to an extent, because 80% of the work is the type of stuff that can be done in half the time with double the manpower. I'm sure if you pumped enough money into scientific research then you'd eventually hit the point where you're limited by the speed of innovation, but there's not nearly enough investment to even be close to that point yet.
>>7644956 >Thinking the wars are over oil. Jesus fucking Christ. What is this, 10 level conspiracy class? Yeah, oil was a motivation for a battle, but is hardly the root of all war or power for that matter.
>>7644956 "black gold" is cheap easy energy, we need to use energy to support billions of people who will come up with ways to use this abundant energy to advance science and engineering
being a dumb luddite hippy, more worried about a slug going extinct than human civilization growing in power and scope is PRECISELY the reason we are going to take a long time to reach type 1, if ever, if you people keep electing anti-humanists eco-retards
>>7644956 >w-we would live in a perfect techno utopia if we didn't have to spend money on war!
War is dumb but nah m8. Its not that simple.
What pop sci friends need to understand is that yes some problems could be helped with more money/research but not all of them.
For example FTL space travel. This will probably never happen, ever, no matter how much money we throw it at. Why? Well everything we know about nature currently tells us its impossible.
So yea some things like advanced AI for example probably just need more time/money invested in them, no law of nature we know of seems to prevent the existence of advanced AI. But other things may never be possible no matter what we do. You can't fight the laws of nature m8.
Too many people with sci fi boners thinking we'd have everything in Star Trek if we just didn't have war, or religion, or republicans, and its just not true. The sad truth is allot of Star Trek style shit is probably just impossible and we'll never have it.
>>7644985 India has the largest uranium deposits in the world. They also have the largest Thorium deposits as well. Africa most likely will go nuclear. Oil and Coal is too expensive to produce in Africa. >>7645007 You can't throw money at the project. It doesn't work that way.
>>7645647 Cheap oil is running out. Most of the oil produced today is tar sands. A very expensive process by the way. The oil crash is bankrupting oil companies and big oil companies are posting record losses. Shell and Exxon are about to laid off people. There is a rumor they are going to sell some of their assets as well.
>>7645706 I don't think it's entirely impossible. I mean, Newtonian physics was superseded by Einsteinian, some day we may have a new model of the universe that permits FTL by finding "holes" in Einsteinian physics (much like Einsteinian physics found "hole" in Newtonian physics). But it's not the kind of thing that happens overnight.
>>7645784 >Type I Civilization is a species Lrn2readingcomprehension
>>7644956 quit being a commie. competition (and war) is what drives 90% of scientific/technological progress. if you just have a one world organization that dumps money at science you end up with an even worse version of NASA
>>7646544 I think there's just too many people with sci fi induced boners going around thinking everything would be like that if only conservatives weren't in the way! And I'm just saying that's dumb.
I'm not a conservative myself but I do believe in natural laws you know. I don't think "anythings possible if we can dream it!!!!". I think the real reason we don't have allot of sci fi shit is because in the real world shit doesn't work like that, not cause the evil republicans are keeping it from us.
>>7646652 The "evil republicans" thing is more about mundane scientific developments, if people start panicking about nuclear power/GMOs/vaccines etc, there's going to be less interest to research in those areas. Things like FTL, if it is possible, really requires theories so far out there that we can't just get to them by accelerating our research.
i think just solving nuclear fusion and making some fusion powered interplanetary craft would require an astronomical sum -- like 100 trillion. you would need every first world/industrialized country to throw their money and sweat into one concerted effort. it can't just be the US and the nominal (non significant support) of a couple of countries -- it has to be everyone. you would everyone to basically stop spending on their militaries and redirect everything to one space fund. most importantly, you'd need to get the best and brightest minds of the world to put in collective decades of time into these projects.
basically it's a pipedream because our current civilization does not deem these projects to be a priority of our resources. This will most likely be a mid-to-late 22nd century concern.
>>7644959 We all know that this is true. 10 German scientists easily make up a single jewish genius, so we'd still have all our technical advancements we have to day and a lot more money for space travel if the non-Aryans were wiped out. We'd likely have a whole city on mars already if it wasn't for white countries trying to save the world.
>>7647226 It would be harrowing at first, but eventually Mars could sustain a large population. Mars has ore that can be mined and used for building materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ore_resources_on_Mars), soil that can grow plants (https://www.nasa.gov/feature/can-plants-grow-with-mars-soil) and even liquid water (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-confirms-evidence-that-liquid-water-flows-on-today-s-mars)
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