I grew up next to a slaughterhouse and was sometimes woken up by shrieks of pigs who were about to be killed. Can't we just gas animals (with helium) instead or is that technically impossible? Would be more animal-friendly and at least and also less distressing for the workers I guess.
Helium definitely not, it would be completely impractical. You probably could asphyxiate them with high percent nitrogen air mixtures, but that would also be extraordinarily expensive (just in terms of time required making vacuum sealed rooms), and it may affect the quality of the meat. Anything other than nitrogen would be too expensive to be considered.
>less distressing for the workers
Have you ever met someone who works in an abattoir? I had a mate who would put snapchats up of himself using those gas-guns, killing cows. He would have them lined up and count them down.
I would say most of those guys are pretty fucked mate.
Carbon dioxide would do the trick pretty well I think. And you don't have to make a room perfectly air tight, as long as you have minimal ventilation and the gas you use is heavier than air (like CO2 is) it should work. Gassing animals like this is probably more humane too, because they will "go to sleep" first and then die painlessly and unaware. We have a slaughterhouse relatively nearby, especially when the holidays drive, the stench of excrement and festering blood is quite easy to smell when you drive past. The animals smell this and get stressed because they know they are not going somewhere that would be particularly safe for them. So it would be more humane and pleasant for both humane and the animals if we would reconsider slaughter methods imho.
You get fucked up by doing that long enough, a sane person either becomes fucked in the head or gives it up quite quickly because he can't bear it anymore. It takes a special kind of asshole to enjoy it though.
AFAIK chickens are electrocuted to unconciousness before a machine chops their head off. At least in modern slaughtehouses.
I don't know about pigs, but the fact is that most people just don't care that much.
You could kill them with inert gases, but the process would be very slow. (you need to work in batches and spend 20+ mins per batch simply waiting for the pigs to asphyxiate).
The thing is that people aren't going to do this anyway.
I thought about the same thing once.
Helium is expensive as hell, so no.
But it shouldn't be too hard to just vacuum the air out of room, then pump it back in. I've heard suffocation causes orgasms......sounds civilized to me.
when it comes to slaughter houses, more people are concerned with how humane the slaughter methods are. They usually knock out the animals first, with a blank air round, or electrocution or whatever else is fast and easy. Those methods are instant and pretty much painless, whereas asphyxiation would take a while, and would be very distressing to the animals. The reason you hear the screams or shrieks of the animals is because one of the workers fucked up and didn't knock it out properly
if you would like humane slaughter I would suggest meat racking!
The idea is simple.
You take stem cells from pigs or other livestock and clone only the muscle.
The muscle is grown on racks and electroshocked while being fed "artificial blood" because the brain of the pig is "where the soul/pain" resides we would feel exponentially less guilty eating this cloned meat that has no brain.
Here is the Idea at play in dead space
More info/pics on the way
You also will be relieved to hear that the FDA approved cloned meat
The reason you electro shock the fed muscles as they grow on the racks is to effect their strength, tone and tenderness.
Bonus: you can enjoy a good steak in space with this method.
so to sum it up anon, eating meat is barbaric in that you must slaughter your fellow mammalians so why not bypass this by cloning only their essential bits without their limited consciousness.
Pic related: Its Organovo's human tissue 3d printing machine that makes organs.
No reason we cannot refit the machine to print meat unto rack for us.
If you wanna go absolutely purist mode listen to this. You can use stem cells from bugs or crabs which are not mammalian in any way and exploit their muscle to make it the size of a steak. Then you can eat all the crab you want in space and 0 mammal dna.
I used to work on a small farm. We'd take the cattle that we wanted to slaughter, walk them by a small platform upon which I stood, and then I would smash them in the head with a sledgehammer.
They don't allow this any more, but it seemed like a good way to go. The cattle never saw it coming, and after a couple early ones where I pussied out and then had to deal with a not-dead-but-not-alive cow, they never felt much of anything. Instant death, brains scrambled, dead cow.
When they made us start using bolts, we had a lot more animals suffer. Sometimes I think that the animal welfare movement is actually just big meat packers in disguise.
> Sir, we have this new method of slaughter
> Tell me more
> Sir, it's way more efficient for mass production purposes
> That'll teach those pesky farmers
> Sir, it unnecessarily hurts a lot of animals and people might get upset
> We'll tell everyone it's actually much better. Since no one knows dick all about this any more, they will believe it
> Brilliant, sir!
>it shouldn't be too hard to just vacuum the air out of room
It is extremely hard to vacuum the air out of a room. They do use CO2 or nitrogen to knock animals out before slaughter, but it seems really unnecessary to me. Just prolongs the thing.
I've thought about this in the past as well, but there are way too many complex biochemical interactions between muscle tissue and the rest of the body.
We can't replicate or predict all of these and we might end up with something dangerous.
I wouldn't eat this instead of real meat for quite a while.