ITT: Wonderkids that failed and were forgotten
>You now remember Ganso
yeah, he did a very good season in Benfica but still, he was hyped as the next Maradona
Michael Johnson, the next Slippy G.
Shown on the right, as a first team regular for Man City at age 18; and on the left in a Kebab house at the age of 27 having been out of football for 3 years
You now realise that 7-8 years ago, pre-takeover, Man City were receiving lots of applause for their youth system; having produced the following players:
Shaun Wright Phillips
And worst of all Ched Evans
At least Daniel Sturridge turned out ok... I guess.
Anyone here remember Kleberson? He was such a flop even though he won a world cup. I remember prior to his move Scolari said that Manchester United should be honored to have him or some crap.
>The next star of football will be Kerlon. Remember his name cos you'll be hearing it in 2 or 3 years. He's only 18.
one of the original meme players
Was supposed to be the Defensive and offensive futures. Little did they know Kleberson was quite literally the most overrated world cup winner ever. No seriously is there a world cup winner that's been more overrated than Kleberson cause I can't think of one?
Oh come on that's cheating. Alright anyone that ISN'T from the England squad that won. They cheated to win so they're literally all shit.
I don't know man aside from Germans do people even rate him?
You might be right about this. How he's considered a GOAT is beyond me.
You now remember Harry Kane
>le englel's number 1 talent
>English call me ABE
>Americans call me Brit
>this semen slurping board
>picking some nigger with braces above Michael Fucking Jordan in the draft
Garrincha was easily 10x the footballer that Pele was. So yes PELEL is SHIT. Brazilian Ronaldo probably fucks his granddaughter every time someone says Pelel is a GOAT.
The 98 French team had a great defense. Italy wasn't terrible in 06 either to be honest.
Grosso was God awful for Juve. I'll agree with you on this one.
But isn't it mostly German's who say that though? But you're right regardless the guy has potential and is good but he'll be ruined if he gets overrated this early.
>dude calls Bobby Charlton and Pele shit
why is this board so hipster
>25 years old
Oh my mistake then
But it's true. Pele isn't a GOAT. The only reason he's even considered for that title is because of the time he spent in America. The American's overhyped him so much no literally most average fans consider him a GOAT. He's no where close to that level. There's so many Brazilian players better than he was.
He never stood out in either of the clubs and was pretty disappointing in Juve to be fair.
You posted a blank picture mate.
Damn that guy is a beast. Played for the club I support last season, was a legend to start with but then he just walked out of a team meeting like a big babby and left us to get relegated.
Also fired a penalty about 10 feet over the cross bar in a key game. If he scored it we'd have stayed up I just know it.
Broke Ramsey's leg and cried.
He's still a very consistent and solid premier league CB. Should probably be in the England team along with Caulker, but Cahill and Jagielka have cemented themselves as the starters.
So anything below 1958 is not football, ok.
i don't even think Pelé is the GOAT but he had another mind in 50-60s, a 17 old player schooling defenders in a world cup, you won't see this for a long time, Messi and Ronaldo couldn't do this.
Fat Ronaldo i kinda agree, but only because i saw him playing.
Favela kid thinks football in 1958 was on the same level as today. No wonder you guys got fucked so hard last year. Shit done changed, monkey. I'm literally in tears on the floor laughing watching any match played over 40 years ago, the level of play was absolutely piss poor.
What happened after he left Porto? I completely forgot about him after that up until now.
But Messi and Ronaldo we're respectively schooling teams at a young age, granted however it wasn't on the world stage. My problem with football before the 60's is that it was more Physical than it was technical which really makes it hard to judge if a player was good or not. A big example is the major power gaps between teams even on the international level. Sweden made it into the finals for Christs sake.
Great counterpoint friend. You sure showed him. How is the poor Dutch poster going to go to sleep knowing how hard you devastated him with such a well thought out post is beyond me.
> Basing the argument in sheer luck (and refball) in a tournament that depends heavily in the outcome of one single match
Greece won the Euro, so I guess they are better than Englel then?
Not a single good goal in there, even shit Van Nistelrooy made prettier goals than that. The last one with the dribble shows Pele's mediocre ball control with the ball bouncing off his feet while dribbling and the terribly shit "defending" of the opponents. How is that good football, that clip just proves my point how totally fucking shit it was.
This is a good goal, a goal this beautiful has never been scored by you favela chumps. Flawless pass, followed by flawless ball control and a finish that is technically perfect:
Not so much a wonderkid flop, bad a sad 2nd half to his career. Had so many knee injuries that the cartilage in his knee was gone and it was literally bone rubbing on bone, but he kept playing.
Would have been one of the best ever English CBs if his knee wasn't buggered. Would have probably been England captain too.
>This is a good goal, a goal this beautiful has never been scored by you favela chumps. Flawless pass, followed by flawless ball control and a finish that is technically perfect:
a random pass that managed to slip throught terrible argentina defense?
the morrocan fucking your sister is tied with you with 0 wc titles.
It's pointless because everyone knows that sports only became really professional recently. The only thing you have to do is watch old games and see it for yourself how ridiculous the game was back then.
South Korea literally cheated their way to the Semi's. Turkey played Snegal and Japan before they lost to Brazil. Sweden 94 was a Cinderella run against Saudi Arabia and Romania. If anything it was Bulgaria that was a shock team since they beat Germany 2-1 in that world cup
Your friend >>57848118 is right. Talk about Ronaldo, the true GOAT, not overrated as fuck Pele. Ronaldo had ten thousand times the skill of overrated Pele. I don't take any player or team seriously that played before 1974.
Pretty much this. The quality of the sports now would make many players from older generations horrible. It's like saying Paulino Alcántara would've been a world cup winner if he played 10 year's later (or if they even played world cup for that matter). Times change and you have to change with them.
I might be misinterpreting what you wrote but do you feel what I wrote is incorrect? And if so, why?
I really didn't myself clear, I agree with you in all acounts. I was just joking about how sad it is seeing a Brazilian blind to the fact that football was shit only because of "muh bias" while being schooled by a "country" with no tradition in the game
>enjoying players you never watched a full game of
It's illogical to disregard players from thr 50s and 60s you never watched play but glorify players from the 80s you never watched play.
Oh alright my mistake too sorry. I should have realized what you meant so sorry about that. I don't really get insulted when people on /sp/ bring my country Canada into the equation if I'm being honest. I just love the sport and no amount of /sp/ shitposting against me will ever change that.
But after the late 1960's, a lot of money was put into the sport and the game took a sharp turn from physical to technical. We had tactics like Total football and extremely technical players like Cruyff and Maradona.
The game changed forever in 1974, but to be fair, it has evolved so much since that year. Physically, technically and tactically it's a completely different game. Even the teams of the 90ties would get wrecked by today's teams so let's make it 2008 then, OK? The football that Bayern, Madrid and Barca have shown the last decade has been mind blowing.
some athletes transcend time
in a sport like soccer/football certain things stand the test of time, the cross bar challenge and shit like that
zidane has talked about maradona's skill
those are things that stand the test of time
It's unfortunate that Messi wasn't able to take the cup last year. If he had gotten it he would've been considered the GOAT by the average fan like Maradona is at the moment. But whatever it happens. Not sue if he'll be able to do it in 2018 but nothing is set in stone.
what the fugg brazil, i usually like you but now you can eat dicks. i won't forgive this bait.
In boxing, Ike Ibeabuchi and David Tua were supposed to inherit the heavyweight divison whereas Gerald McClellan and Jeff Lacy were both supposed to be the next great American champions.
Sweden and Bulgaria had eliminate France of Cantona, Ginola,Papin (a very good team fucked up by conflict between Psg and Marseille player) in the eliminatory tournament.
( Bulgaria won the last match in paris with a goal at the last minutes ).
Never saw this video before. Well, it was interesting. Thanks!
>football has never been as good as it is played today
This is delusional. We have less great individualities than in the 90s. This was a time where incredible players like Bergkamp, Suker or Michael Laudrup were far from being considered the best... where Zidane won the Ballon d'Or only once, and Cantona wasn't even playing for his national team...! And what do we have now, besides Messi and Ronaldo? Müller? Ribéry? Di Maria? Falcao? All average and classless compared to the good players of 1998 no one really rated (say, Ryan Giggs or Gheorghe Hagi).
Also, if football is so much better today, how come old men like Totti or Drogba are still very competitive in it, and still play in major clubs? These men were in their prime 15 years ago when football was so inferior, but they're doing good, despite their old age, in a superior version of the game? I'm afraid it makes no sense.
Honestly, its because its harder now.
Cantona would be seen as a liability and never get off the bench. Socrates wouldn't even get signed because he'd get marked out of every game. Socrates actually wrote a book about it, explaining that for football to be the way it was in the 70s, you'd need to either make the pitch far bigger or play with 7-8 players per side. Fitness levels have improved that much.
George Best would be pushed off the ball by every defender in the league.
>yoann gourcuff is 28
Holy fucking shit, I remember telling some girl I had a crush on that he would be the next GOAT of world football.
Quote from his wiki; ""That goal was no accident." "It showed there was something magical about him. I felt ill when Zidane retired. Watching Gourcuff has cured me. When I see players like him, I feel like a small boy again"
he had probably one of the top 5 rookie qb seasons
as much as he deserves blame for shilling himself out instead of working on being a better player, and for not learning how to slide (lol), the redskins organization does too, putting so much on him from the get go
"Hatem Ben Arfa. Providing he stays fit, Ben Arfa belongs on a different planet to most mortals. Capable of eclipsing Rooney, Bale and even Suárez."
- Louise Taylor, Guardian 2013-14 season predictions
can't believe this hasn't been posted yet. Sebastian Deisler had unbelievable talent but was never able to develop it because of depression and anxiety, was he one of us /sp/?