>it appears that my superiority has caused some discomfort
2.Loser Sate University
8.Texas Kek University
>there are living, breathing human beings who share the same image board as you and I who genuinely believe OSU resembles anything like last year's Florida State team
Wait until Ohio State actually starts trying. They gave Penn State the tip of the cock. Michigan State and Michigan are about to get the whole shaft.
Look, this SEC meme was funny for a little while, but now its just run-of-the-mill, annoying shitposting. Like, Australian tier shitposting.
THERE WILL NOT BE MORE THAN ONE SEC TEAM IN THE CFP. Just BEING the SEC doesn't automatically make a team holier than all others. You have to actually PROVE that you're the better than the rest and so far only LSU has done that. Ole Miss and Bama both have losses to literally who's and have struggled against shit teams that an actually "good" team would easily beat.
The SEC champion will probably go to the CFP, and only because the Pac-12 has been so shit. But thats the ONLY SEC team that will be going.
>ranking the Go5
fuck you niggers, just let us have our own ranking
let you kiddies play in your own wittle sandbox, you won't ever need to feel threatened ever again, poor little things
Alabama fans always thought this too desu.
No conference will have more than one team in the playoffs, there's no reason to rank Michigan State or Iowa with Ohio State in that top 4 because of that.
>UNC literally 4 and a half hours too late to be in the rankings
>if Bama beats LSU they will move up to 2 (unless Clemson doesn't win convincingly enough, then they will be #1)
>If LSU beats Bama they will move up to 1 and Bama could stay at 4
Doesn't matter since The Ohio State University will bootyblast any SEC team in the playoffs
Big Ten > SEC in football and academics
I meant do you honestly think it's possible. So basically this is what these ranking are tell us. If there are 2 one loss SEC teams and a one loss b12/pac12/ND the SEC will get two teams in, especially since the big12 has no championship game.
the good big 12 teams haven't played each other yet. You don't need the team above you to lose to move up in these rankings. They are very fluid.
This order merely tells us that the Big 12 teams have played terrible sos so far.
>Iowa wins 20-29 against Illinois, says it is a solid conference win
>Illinois got bootyblasted by an average UNC team
Iowa is a joke. Literally no wins: the team. Worse than Baylel
If the Big 12 has no undefeated teams two SEC teams will get in.. mark my words. The Big 12 will have zero undefeated teams. Oklahom will spoil that, cap it. Two SEC teams getting is MUCH more likely than anyone realizes. And people on this checkers board were claiming no SEC team would get in.
really did you hear about all the people saying the hurricane should forfeit the game? I mean I am a homer but even the most unbiased person can see how negative people are against miami. Its even amazing after the canes have been shit for a decade and a half
And how can anyone make the argument that Alabama should be 4th over Notre Dame.. if strength of schedule is a key emphasis as they claim. ND lost to the number one team in the nation, they really had a chance to win that game. Alabama lost to Ole Miss and got booty blasted by Memphis. It's not logical.
Updated autism chart, feel free to greentext about it
>Go to a bar in Downtown Detroit after work right after the poll came out
>Only person in it
>Bartender (and I think owner) asks what I think of the CFP rankings
>Tell him they're terrible, why the fuck is Alabama, much less Notre Dame, ahead of any unbeatens
>He disagrees, proceeds to tell me that the ACC is the best conference and that Notre Dame is right where they should be since they only lost to Clemson
>Then says he doesn't understand why Toeldo isn't ranked ahead of TCU
>Just agree with everything he says because I'm clearly talking to a retard
>Then he charges me $4 for a Bud Light
I'm a salesman who goes to bars solely to strike up conversations with people and handout my card. I've basically come to see it as work at this point, and Bud Light is always the cheapest thing available if there isn't a special going on.
i think we have been tricked into another edition of craft beer general
how do you guys feel about magic hat. i think pretty much everything they make is ok, nothing more
Still though, Bud Light? There are much better domestic beers out there.
No. I'll drink a Dogfish Head 90 Minute if it's all there is, but I'm either a Yuengling drinker or a somewhat local beer to here in Charlotte called Red Oak. Not big on micro brews or IPAs for the most part. More of a liquor guy myself.
I drink yuengling too, just seems like people in the South drink way more of it. Have noticed Bud Light will make you hungover as fuck, have no idea why though.
the greatest kek scenario
>LSU loses to bammer and ole miss
>Bammer loses to MSU
>Ole Piss loses to MSU
>MSU wins SEC
>blowhio state loses to Michigan and/or Michigan State
>Clemson is Clemson and loses to SC
>a 2 loss Mississippi state gets into the playoff and wins the whole shebang.
I obviously know I'm reaching here but this would get so many people butthurt and I'd just laugh my ass off.
i'd say sec easily is the best conference. I hate the ncaa though, and very glad I gave up on it years ago.
committee shit is rigged, they showed last year on that last week that none of the prior weeks meant shit. they just shuffled it all around. rigged desu senpai.
senpai are you 18? stop posting here
>Clemson is Clemson and loses to SC
This statement makes literally no sense. Even if you're talking about "Clemsoning", that doesn't refer to losing to random unranked opponents. The only times this Clemson team loses is to good ranked opponents. They haven't lost to an unranked opponent since 2011 and there's only one player still on the team who was there for that game. If Clemson is being Clemson, and I promise you they will be, SC won't stand a chance in hell.
I'm a fan of their marketing, I know that much. Probably one of the better low-budget campaigns in recent memory. I've only actually had one of their IPAs though, don't remember what it was called but it was decent. Like you said, nothing special and I'd honestly rather just get a Lag or Sierra Nevada Torp.
Really, you in So-Cal? Never seen it sold anywhere else. The first time I had it I thought it was pretty gross/way too sweet, but I was also drinking it pretty quick and without food. I've had it a few other times with dinner at a family member's place and I think it's really amazing actually if you balance it out with bread-y food.
>good qbs in cfb are black
>good qbs in nfl are white
how the fuck does this work
The SEC is definitely the best conference. The gap between it and the other P5s may not be as large as the ESPN/SEC Network portray it to be, but anyone who actually believes the SEC isn't the best conference is just an idiot or in denial. The thing is, just because it's the best conference, doesn't mean its best team is one of the 4 best teams in the country - I think that's what is hard for a lot of people to grasp.
SNPA and Torpedo and their Porter are all pretty good, but aren't widely available in the wilds of west Texas. We get all kinds of stuff from Shiner, though.
I haven't a clue why beer with lots of its fermentable sugars coming from rice will do that, but it does seem to be the case. Beers with corn sugars, like Shiner, don't do it to me.
>then again, I mostly drink homebrew and don't use adjuncts
Everyone else in the SEC is ranked where they should be. It's BAMA that sticks out like high cotton in a fucking trailer park full of meth labs. Don't make this about the SEC. It's BAMA bias.
Mark my words: The Panthers will win the Super Bowl within the next three seasons as long as they have Cam Newton at the helm and Kuechly and Norman on defense. They obviously have some other key pieces (Olsen being a huge one), but as long as those three pieces are in place, the Panthers will win very soon.
My clients need to be of some means, so you're probably too poor for me to care anyways
Meh. First time I walk into any bar, I order a Bud. Saves me from having to probe the menu for their selection and pricing (which would make me look like a cheapskate), they're almost guaranteed to have it on draft, and it's guaranteed to be cheap.
Then, once I have my Bud, I examine the bar more carefully to see what they do have, look around for any pricing signs, and decide what I should order second or next time I come back. Molson Canadian tends to be my ideal combination of price/taste, but I'll usually settle for whatever the best beer at their lowest price tier is. I'm out at bars basically every night, so I care way more about saving money than the taste of the beer. Not to mention that pacing myself is extremely important when I'm canvassing and the fact the shitty beer is harder to get down helps me quite a bit in that regard.
Nah. Some place in Greektown that's trying to be way too hip for the old fucks who frequent the casino.
At least they have won though, I don't think they should be above any of the one loss teams or other undefeated teams but they have beat who was in front of them and have a similar SOS as Baylor atm
Watching this game makes me appreciate Brandon Harris even more. Anthony Jennings was such a goddamn turd. Even Jordan Jefferson had his moments. With Jennings, you were lucky if he simply didn't throw it to the other team. 3rd and long? Forget it.
Jesus it's so bad man.. My brother lives out in Delaware, so I'll occasionally drink up there, it's almost unbearable. But yeah I'm guilty of doing the same thing from time to time.
when has iowa used illinois as a marquee win
they use Pitt (which is a garbage team) and Northwestern (which is a horribly hot/cold team), and wisconsin (lel)
they'll get exposed in the B1G championship, even worse than wisconsin did last year, put your dick back into your pants
Florida does at least. All Bama has really done so far is beat a criminally overrated Wisconsin team, beat a criminally overrated Georgia team, and beat a criminally overrated Texas A&M team. Florida blew out the criminally overrated team that beat Alabama and beat the criminally overrated Georgia team by about the same margin.
Hey Iowa shits, you watching the LSU/Bama replay? You see this fucking turd that LSU called a QB last year. This motherfucker beat y'all in his first career start in the 2014 bowl game. You lost to Anthony Jennings.
Maybe the worst QB in LSU history. You also got keked by Tennessee in the Taxslayer bowl last year.
Save your bullshit posturing for another conference.
>Florida has literally won one game without the help of steroidsman.
Did you even watch that game?
Jennings threw for 82 yards and had an int
and iowa had fucking rudock
both teams looked like dogshit, LSU just happened to look like a slightly fresher turd
The fact remains, LSU started Anthony Jennings and you still couldn't pull it out. Shit, Mississippi State got their first win in 15 years against Jennings. If you couldn't beat LSU with Jennings under center, you can pretty much forget it for the rest of eternity. Looking at you, Ole Miss.
Ehhhh. My 'ideal client' is middle-aged and started drinking way before craft beer was a mainstream thing, so they're generally used to macro swill. I'd actually be concerned about scaring some of them away if I came off in the slightest as some sort of beer snob, since I'm fairly young and prospects tend to assume younger salesmen especially are unjustifiably arrogant and conceited, although in downtown Detroit I'd be targeting yuppies around my own age so that wouldn't really be a concern.
True, they are destroying whoever they play but I guess if they ever want to be taken seriously need to schedule more ranked opponents. Same goes for big 12 desu.
The computers liked Oklahoma State better in 2011. The human polls slanted things in Bama's favor. It's all relative to whatever benefits Bama. Fuck everyone else.
That was the year that the term "quality loss" was coined. Specifically for Bama. Forget quality wins, we talkin' L's here!
>complaining about the first set of rankings
The problems will sort themselves out.
Either Alabama or LSU will win this weekend, worst case scenario LSU loses and Ala/LSU swap spots, and if the Big 12 doesn't cannibalize itself and ends up with an undefeated champ, they'll make it in over a 1 loss SEC team
you guys are fucking morons
Hey LSU shits, you watching the Michigan/Minnesota replay? You see this fucking turd that Iowa called a QB last year. This motherfucker literally cannot hit a receiver five yards downfield and y'all let him throw for triple digits? You barely beat Jake Rudock.
Objectively the worst QB in, not one, but two B1G schools' histories. You were also 10-3 and a ranked at #14 while Iowa was 8-5 and unranked.
Save your bullshit posturing for another conference.
So not only did LSU beat Iowa that year, they also finished the year ranked in the top 25 while Iowa was on the outside looking in? Sounds to me like LSU is the better program and it's not close. the BIG is a great conference, but Iowa's "tradition" has fuck all to do with it. You are Arkansas, basically.
>Sounds to me like LSU is the better program and it's not close
First of all, you arrived at that conclusion from 1 (one) season's worth of information? Sure, let's judge an entire program off of one season. More importantly though, literally nobody in the history of the fucking universe has ever said Iowa is a better program than LSU. LSU SHOULD be beating Iowa - it would be embarrassing for them if they didn't. LSU is a top-tier SEC program, Iowa is a middle-tier B1G program.
>TCU will miss the playoffs again even after finishing the season undeafeted
>No big 12 team will make the playoffs
Sounds like you haven't been around these threads very often. LSU isn't really considered an elite program around here. Most people on /sp/ picked LSU to finish second to last in the SEC west before the season started. LSU has gotten very little respect since the disasterous ending to the 2011 season. Most everyone talking us up is jumping on the fucking bandwagon.
If an undefeated Big 12 team gets left out of the playoffs (or an undefeated Pac 12 team, for that matter) then the Big 12/Pac 12 should just fucking sue the committee. Get their discussions subpoenaed; they've got to have them on record, right?
Correction: it's all the state of Alabama has. The SEC is rooted in old south good ole boy corruption, and Alabama is at the heart of it. Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Texas, and Louisiana all have professional sports franchises. Logic would have it that Bama and Auburn have shitty ass programs like Ole Miss and Miss State do. But that's not the case. Bama literally invented cheating in football and they haven't stopped. The deck is stacked in their favor in a variety of ways. It's obvious when you play them.
hue hue tcu bad conference hue
I think 8. Behind the AP top 6 and Florida, although most people wouldn't put Florida over them.
>if they win out
Depends. Assuming Clemson wins out, the Big XII plays itself out off the playoffs again, and OSU finishes with 0 or 1 losses, probably #3 - unless Notre Dame wins out and looks absolutely dominant against Pitt/Stanford. Either way they'll be in the top 4 if they run the table and Ole Miss drops a game.
>undefeated Pac-12 team
That shit would get downvoted into oblivion on reddit. Get the fuck out of here. It's real talk. Just like UNC and Texas rules their respective conferences with an iron fist, Bama gets their way unequivocally in the SEC. It's where the conference offices are located. Why not Atlanta instead? The media capital of the southeastern US? You know why and so does everyone else. The state of Alabama depends on college football. They can't leave anything to chance.
I barely watch the Pac 12, Pac 12 football is garbage. But the point still stands. Any conference that feels it's being screwed should just sue the committee and force it to turn over its discussions.
>knowing what would get downvoted/upvoted on reddit
I'm not sure it's possible to blame poll inertia on anything here.
LSU and Alabama will solve that conundrum this weekend
The only team I'd be buttmad about is Notre Dame who has shown very little reason to be there
These are the first real rankings they've done that weren't cut-and-dry and all it's done is confirm that the CFP committee are complete fucking plebs. We now know that we'll never be safe from Notre Dame getting an undeserved playoff spot because of their faggot fanbase.
>Alabama loses to Ole Miss at Alabama
>Memphis beats Ole Miss at Ole Miss
>Alabama barely beats Tennessee in Alabama
>Oklahoma barely beats Tennessee in Tennessee
>therefore, Alabama has proven that they are about 10 spots better than Memphis and Oklahoma
Because the people in charge of the Dec 6th rankings are the same people that think Alabama should be ranked 4th and ND 5th.
If they're this retarded and biased now, what gives you hope for the actual playoffs?
Alabama is a fraud
>their win over Wisconsin is way less impressive in retrospect because Wisconsin themselves have been exposed as frauds
>their big win over Georgia was before Georgia was exposed
>same for their win over Texas A&M
>Ole Miss has since been exposed
they're still getting cred for these wins as though they are wins over top 10 teams which fucking defies logic
>TCU beats Minnesoda
>Tech Beats Arkansas
>OK St. Schedules C. Michigan
>Baylor, the top fucking team schedules SMU Lamar and Rice
We should've kicked Baylor before they got "good."
>It worked out fine
How long will it take before it doesn't? Nip the retardation in the bud sooner rather than later before shit hits the fan.
Although when it inevitably does, it will been pretty hilarious tbqh family and friends.
How can you guys even touch domestics after having craft beer?
I know it's pricey but seriously generic american shit beers are canned piss, and should only be consumed by residents of the state of alabama.
losing a game you really should win and getting fucked out of a bowl or conference championship because of it
>clemson used to do it a lot
>OU did it this year against UT at the Texas State Fair
Will the TV networks and Google search keep using the AP rankings in team graphics or switch to the CFP rankings? This shit might get confusing.
>Literally calls itself the South Eastern Conference
>All the dumbest fucking people in the country live in the Southeast
What is there not to get? Once you understand who SEC fans actually are, you understand why they're so fucking stupid.
Man, you sure are salty. It's understandable though. Non-SEC supporters are surprisingly similar to manlets. You hardly ever get the attention you think you deserve. Just go sit in the corner and let the big boys play ball.
>B-but muh grades
Looking for anything you can get huh? You wonder why some SEC fans are assholes...we have to deal with your constant bitching. Grow the fuck up.
>Keep under estimating Iowa.
>There is nothing you can do to stop them.
I think most of /sp/ misunderstands why Iowa fans are opptimistic.
For starters, Iowa has been garbage since 2009. So this year was a "put up or get fired" year for Ferentz. Iowa fans are more surprised than anyone that they keep winning, they showed no signs of this potential before the season started.
Additionally good Ferentz teams get WAAAAY better later in the season. Some of Iowas best upsets under KF came late in the season.
>people legitimately think Clemson is good just because Miami spilled the spaghetti against them
>people legitimately think Notre Dame isn't a garbo team
Neither team has beaten any top 40 team...why is everyone sucking their dicks?
Iowa has the same lameass weenie schedule that Wisconsin has this season. No games against real opponents.
Iowa has all free wins until the B1G championship but I hope they lose tbqh. If they make it into the playoffs the committee will force a 1 loss (even a 2 loss) Notre Dame team into the playoffs to face them because >muh free win.
>there's a time and a place to can 15 bud lights hanging outside of the trailer before the bama game
Yeah, you're right.
Drinking domestics is basically screaming that you're poor, have lower class taste, and that you live in the redneck section of town.
If they have a misses on collapse every year then why do they deserved to be ranked? They've played shit up to Bama and Ole Miss, and now that they are playing actual competition they are getting curbstomped. A&M deserves no ranking at all. They were only put on the playoff rankings so Alabama spot at number 4 could be justified. The committee did a terrible job of ranking in my opinion, and that's not just because my team wasn't ranked number one. I have come to accept that. But when they illogical ly pull blatant favorism to SEC teams because only because they beat overhyped SEC teams, that is where I get pissed off. Fuck E!SPN and fuck the committee.
Northwestern is ranked. Wisconsin played Alabama. Iowa and Wisconsin played each other. The Big Ten West is not as bad as you make it out to be. There are 3 legit teams in the division, and even Minnesota is still good enough to hang with any Big 12 team. I think playing in the B1G West is much, much harder than playing in the Big 12 or Pac 12 or ACC this year
Are you kidding me? What if Alabama wins a close one? LSU will drop like 4 spots? Have chance to play get in anyway?
What about all the other undefeated teams. Florida State was in the top 4 every week the committee convened, not because of their strength of schedule, because they were undefeated. Its obvious that the preseason polls influence the committee too much.
TCU is new to the Big 12. Michigan is historically great and Iowa is good every few years. Miss St is never good.
Baylor, however, has absolutely risen from the laughing stock of football to a top contender
You forget that Alabama has also beaten Wisconsin. Alabama has a great resume so far. Alabama at #4 isn't at all that bullshit. There's clearly not much difference among the top 8 or so in their rankings, and I can see why everyone below them is below them. Notre Dame is the only real question mark
Nuts in the Wind is a cum loving faggot and he is terrified of Alabama.
Anybody that has an issue with Alabama being in the top 4 is terrified of their team having to play the Tide.
ROLLLL TIDE BITCH NIGGAS
>Current SEC Standings
Ole Miss 4-1
Texas A&M 3-2
Miss. State 2-2
Saturday, Nov. 7
Arkansas defeats Ole Miss: The Razorbacks, last year, found out how to shut out then-No. 8 Ole Miss. There might not be a shutout this season, but the Hogs know how to beat the Rebels.
Mississippi State defeats Missouri: It’s a Thursday night game in Columbia, Mo., and Missouri desperately needs a win. But the Bulldogs will take advantage of Missouri’s disappointing season.
LSU defeats Alabama: Yes, you read that right. LSU can do it, and nobody else on the Tide’s schedule will. This also gives the Tide that needed second conference loss for this scenario.
Texas A&M defeats Auburn: The Aggies continue to improve with Kyler Murray.
Updated Standings: LSU 5-0, Ole Miss 4-2, Alabama 4-2, Texas A&M 4-2, Arkansas 3-2, MSU 3-2, Auburn 1-5
Saturday, Nov. 14
Arkansas defeats LSU: Teams that play Alabama struggle the following week, especially when it comes to play on the line of scrimmage. The Razorbacks shut out LSU last year and can beat them in Baton Rouge, where four of the last six meetings have been decided by four points or less — including two overtime games.
Alabama defeats Mississippi State: Nick Saban hardly ever loses back-to-back games.
Auburn defeats UGA: The game’s in Auburn and UGA’s struggles continue.
Updated Standings: LSU 5-1, Alabama 5-2, Arkansas 4-2, Ole Miss 4-2, Texas A&M 4-2, MSU 3-3, Auburn 2-5
Saturday, Nov. 21
Ole Miss defeats LSU: Ole Miss gets revenge at home for last year’s upset loss in Baton Rouge.
Arkansas defeats Mississippi State: The Hogs return home to get their fifth-straight win and claw their way into a tie for first in the SEC West.
Texas A&M defeats Vanderbilt: If Houston beat Vandy, 34-0, imagine the points the Aggies will pile up.
Updated Standings: Arkansas 5-2, Alabama 5-2, LSU 5-2, Texas A&M 5-2, Ole Miss 5-2, MSU 3-4, Auburn 2-5
Saturday, Nov. 28 weekend
Arkansas defeats Missouri: Razorbacks get revenge, and a share of the SEC West title.
LSU defeats Texas A&M: The Tigers have owned the Aggies since Texas A&M joined the SEC. The streak continues.
Alabama defeats Auburn: The Tide remembers 2013’s Kick Six. Alabama goes out early and wins big.
Ole Miss defeats Mississippi State: The Rebels win a close one to clinch their share of the title.
Final SEC West Standings:
Ole Miss 6-2
Texas A&M 5-3
Miss State 3-5
Of course, this would create panic throughout the SEC. Paul Finebaum’s head might explode and Verne Lundquist would probably break his own Guinness World Record of saying “My Goodness” and “Oh My.”
I'm not mad about the SEC ... those conference teams haven't won a meaningful bowl game in years.
Just annoyed a little that the people in charge still think the SEC is relevant. They should look at the bowl results from the last few years first.
But if including SEC teams makes it easier fot Ohio State to repeat, them I'm all for it.
They are just handing the title to the Buckeyes again. I'm okay with that.
I ask the same for /sp/. This forum would be so much better without the negativity and prejudiced remarks.
Cowherd just said he talked with an NFL GM last night and that Nick Saban would entertain an NFL offer if the QB situation was right. Said to expect the Colts go offer him 10-12 mil a year within two months.
>Iowa wins the B1GCG undefeated
>Clemson doesn't Clemson and wins the ACC Undefeated
>Notre Dame shits the bed against a couple of literally whos and finishes the regular season with three losses
>Memphis wins the AAC undefeated
>Nobody from the Pac-12 finishes with less than two losses
>Baylor wins the Big 12 with their only loss @ TCU in 2OT, and only lose by a field goal
I think it eats at him that his first go was a failure, so I could definitely see him try another time with the right team. Guys like him can't live with failing, it haunts them.
Protip: Saban will coach at Bama for another 10 years and then retire.
He did his NFL thing, didn't enjoy it, and now he found home. Cowherd is a faggot.
>10-12 mil a year
Nigger are you high?
>Any two loss team getting in over a one loss P5 conference champion
I could see a two loss team getting in over a Go5 champ, but what you're suggesting is SEC fanboyism at best and actual inbreeding-related mental retardation at worst.
No. The SEC is better, the Big Ten is better, the Pac 12 is better, and the ACC is better, because the Big 12 and the G5 are the Big 12 and G5.
Not a single Big 12 team could play an ACC Coastal schedule and have a winning record.
>send more players to the NFL EVERY FUCKING YEAR
>have the best intra-conference record in CFB EVERY FUCKING YEAR
How can anybody deny the SEC is the best conference in the nation? It's fucking silly to believe otherwise.
>>Memphis beats Ole Miss at Ole Miss
the game was in Memphis. But don't let that stop you from making up bullshit.
>Alabama barely beat Tennessee, one of their biggest rivals, after playing a rough month of football when they were clearly gassed
You know how i know you're gay?
difference is the big dog is still the big dog in the SEC. Bama is still a natty contender every year. Can the same be said of Oklahoma or Texas? It couldn't be said of Michigan for a long time.
Eh, look at the rankings. Both Big Ten and SEC have 3 teams in the top 10. B1G has 5 teams in the top 25 with Wisconsin hanging just outside, and the SEC has 6 in the top 25 with nobody just outside. The West teams will fall if a couple teams lose one to Auburn or Arkansas.
Both conferences are about equally deep this year.
>"big dog" gets beat by a steaming pile of dog shit in Ole Miss
>mehs by Arkansas
>survives against Tennessee
>has games against high school tier teams like Middle Tennessee and ULM
big fucking pussy dog
no because the only people allowed to count wins against SEC teams as "big wins" are SEC teams XPPPPP
>TAMU was literally in the B12 a few years ago and are already overrated and regarded as great due to the simple fact that they are now in the fucking SEC
It is a legit conspiracy and ESPN has a lot to do with it
>yfw someone else asked Swinney about >Clemsoning
Tennessee and Arkansas. Fucking Arkansas. That's the equivalent of beating Purdue.
The Tennessee win is nice, but only applies for Oklahoma. If Oklahoma wins out the conference will be fine. If it's Baylor or Okie St, then absolutely not
Bama beat Arkansas by double digits. Tennessee was a close game. Bama, however, beat Wisconsin, Georgia, and A&M as well. All of whom are much better than Tennessee, which is the beat win for the entire Big 12 conference thus far.
What's your point?
>best intra-conference record
Hey retard, intra means within. They go .500 within the conference literally every time. You're looking for "inter-conference" like the interstate that runs through your shitty little southern town.
>by double digits
What clever language.
They barely survived, that is ugly as fuck.
Overrated to hell and back and their pitiful play proved it.
Former Big 12 team that was christened "good" now that they're in the SEC, even though they're a cupcake as well
>What's your point
They lost to a meme team
they fill in gaps of their schedule with the worst opponents imaginable
What the fuck do you mean is my point? You can see it clearly and you're stubbornly being a fuck. You're trying to be manipulative in your argument and are just tying up your own shoes.
Literally defend Baylor in any way. Who in the actual fuck has Baylor played? Houston has had a harder schedule than Baylor. Toledo had a harder schedule than Baylor up to ranking Tuesday. FCS schools have had a harder schedule to this point, and that's not even exaggerating. You sound like one of those dumbfucks last year trying to claim that Marshall belonged in the top 4 all year last year when they played a schedule similar to what Baylor has had this year.
>who has Baylor played
Big 12 teams, who, whether you like it or not, are P5 and competitive. They win bowl games.
Your argument is based on complete subjectivity. It is a cancerous trend and one of the reasons why I think college football is trash and getting worse. You come up with these hypothetical arguments and substantations in your head and you are going to get lost.
What is objective? Baylor is undefeated. TCU is undefeated. They have won all of their games.
You are grabbing dust, as is this committee, I'm a Buckeye fan but this outcome is trash
I'm fucking disgusted that the state of college football has come down to "argue why my 1 loss isn't better than your no losses"
"theoretically with my schedule you would have lost"
>State your argument for the Big 12 team of your choice
How about Notre Dame would booty blast Bama.
You know you can't say shit on that.
When did the Big 12 beat any of these teams? Oklahoma is absolutely allowed to count their win over Tennessee as a big win. Oklahoma, however, has one loss to Texas and has only played the common opponent, while Alabama has three more wins that are stronger than that one win.
I'm not even arguing muh SEC. TCU has fucking one win over a team with a winning record. Baylor has the 104th schedule to this point. This isn't about the SEC. This is about the Big 12's undefeateds having beaten absolutely nobody and therefore not deserving of the spot.
Iowa and Michigan State, however, could argue they got screwed a bit.
No you didn't. You scored on a trick play before half, and Cyrus jones fell on his face in coverage. 2 plays. You won the game, but please don't act like you dominated Bama from start to finish. You clearly didn't watch the game if you think that.
I don't think the Big 12 should be ranked higher. They should be ranked on the same metric which they arent. Only certain teams can count games as "quality wins"
>1 (one) and only (only) undisputed title
If a game should have ever been mercy ruled, that was it. If it was any other program than ND, who just won't fucking die, that's the type of loss that sets you back years with how badly they were beaten.
But Baylor hasn't played a single Big 12 team that ever goes to bowl games or ever even competes for the conference. It would be different if they had beaten Oklahoma or Texas or TCU or Oklahoma State. But they havent. They have only beaten perennial bottom dwellers and 0 teams that will make a bowl.
Objective is not counting beating fucking SMU as the same thing as beating Wisconsin. Because SMU is not fucking Wisconsin and you should never pretend like it is. If you want respect, stop scheduling fucking FCS opponents and SMU, stop getting BTFO as a conference in bowl season, and actually play defense even once.
The Big 12 is being ranked on the same metric though I don't see how they arent. The same SoS measures, which are factored largely based on OOC play, are applied to all. Because Baylor played FCS schools and G5 bottom feeders, their SoS is weak, on the same scale Bama is measured on. Simple as that. SMU is not Wisconsin, and never will be.
Idk and it might be just because of how fresh it still is in my mind, but that ND game was like watching a WSHH video where someone is just getting an extended beating with no end in sight.
Wisconsin is categorical shit, please refrain from ever mentioning them as a talking point again in this conversation. Imagine last year's Wisconsin offense, minus Gordon. That's this shit heap.
The only way I could conceivably see Bama somehow make it to #4 would be absolutely stomping everyone else on their schedule, which they didn't do, the opposite in fact.
0 (zero) statement wins. That is not enough to supersede and ugly loss to a mediocre opponent.
Allow me the opportunity to jog everyone's memory a little bit
funnily enough, ESPN made sure to cover up this game as much as possible
>mfw the SEC is 1-6 in BCS/NY6 bowls in the past 3 years
That's som slippery rock shit. Beating V Tech did not equal beating Ohio State last year. Texas Tech beat Arkansas who lost to Toledo. Arkansas is a mediocre at best quality win, for Texas Tech. However Texas Tech themselves are 5-4 and their only conference wins are Kansas and Iowa State, so Tech themselves are not a good team, and beating Tech doesn't mean you beat Arkansas, or that you beat anyone Arkansas beat, just like losing to Arkansas doesn't mean you lost to Toledo. Michigan has credit for beating Northwestern, not credit for beating Stanford. Northwestern has credit for beating Stanford, not credit for beating USC
It literally doesn't matter where they are ranked right now. Look at the first playoff ranking from last year. 3 of those teams did not make it. I am willing to bet the final ranking before the bowls this year will look pretty different than they do now.
Wisconsin lost their first game with a brand new coach to Alabama. They then barely lost to Iowa. They are at 6-2. A 6-2 team is a competent team in any conference. Not a contender, but a competent team. Wisconsin will finish the season 9-3, which is a respectable record. I was enough to get K State ranked #11 last year despite beating nobody. Again, not a contender at all, but Wisconsin is a quality win.
Ole Miss is about on par with Wisconsin, but they have a boost from beating Bama.
And it's not superceding their loss to Ole Miss. It's superceding beating SMU and Stephen F. Austin.
The real, unbiased, top 8
3) Michigan St
4) Ohio St
6) Notre Dame
Anyone that takes bama over Florida is retarded. Here's why:
Florida's opponents have a better winning pct.
Florida lost to LSU
Bama lost to Miss State.
everything else being said about Bama is from three or more seasons ago when they were still relevant.
>slippery rock sense starts tingling
And what do you fuckin know. Go Rock
Bama is going to beat LSU Saturday and you are going to kill yourself. LSU fans are the biggest faggots on earth. HURR URR BAMA ISN'T A TOP 10 TEAM DUUUUUUUUUR
Nigger you know damn well Bama is one of the 5 best teams in the country and any argument otherwise is fucking stupid.
FLORIDA IS BETTER CUZ WE BEAT THEM DUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>my loss is better than your win
I can't take this anymore
cfb is so terrible
one day teams won't even play each other, they'll line up their stats head to head and let a computer simulate the outcome
>mfw Bama wins out
>mfw Ole Miss beats LSU and goes to the SECG and wins instead of Bama
>mfw Bama is still ranked #1 by CFP committee, Ole Miss #2, and Clemson and OSU are 3 and 4
>mfw Bama beats OSU in the semis, avenging the loss last year
>Ole Miss beats Clemson (affirming SEC greatness) and then gets BTFO by Bama in the final, confirming that Alabama is the best team in the best conference
ROLL DAMN TIDE
Tennessee has beaten Georgia, which has a better record than Arkansas. Arkansas is not a very good win, Tennessee and Georgia have better resumes than Arkansas despite the Tennessee- Arkansas head-to-head.
Who you lose to is entirely irrelevant. The committee made that known last year and continue to this year. Forget about who the losses were to. There's 4 losses, and a win over Arkansas, UTEP, Sam Houston, Kansas and Iowa State. For as bad as Auburn is, it's still a stronger win than all of those four wins that aren't Arkansas.
I know we're comparing mediocre opponentsand bad opponents to the worst opponents, but the distinction matters.
Realize, though, that as the season goes on if Tech keeps winning the perception changes. If they win out and are 8-4, they become a quality win. If Tennessee loses any more, they are a lower quality win than Tech. Same goes for Georgia.
These teams are irrelevant, though, because it's A&M and Wisconsin who are what give Bama the boost. The four teams we're talking about here won't even be mentioned at the end of the year. A&M and Wisconsin probably will, because both will probably be 9-3.
>Who you lose to is entirely irrelevant
>that's exactly how bama won the title in 2011
So far, based on the results of games that have already happened this season.
4. Ole Miss
6. Texas A&M
7. Mississippi State
Because Iowa is fucking better you retard. How is this a hard concept?
Iowa hasn't had to come back almost every game like Memphis has, and they actually play in a real conference, not a thrown together one of rejects and castaways
Alabama is one of the 5 best teams in the country. Name 5 better teams.
Ohio State? Maybe but their not playing so hot right now. Defending national champions and they are finding ways to win.... Speaks for itself
LSU? We will find out Saturday.
Clemson? LOL nigger whatever. I could go undefeated in the ACC and beat Notre Dame.
TCU or Baylor? Nigger please.
Michigan State? Alabama would slaughter them and you and i both know it.
So tell me.
>mfw an Alabama resident attempted to solve a basic addition/subtraction math problem and became so frustrated at his brains inability to enter a state of critical thinking and solve the problem due to generations of inbreeding and toddler alcohol consumption he took all of his rage out by tying his sister down and giving her some sweet bama lovin'
>mfw a student at the university of Alabama attempted to log on to a computer for the first time in his life and got so scared by the foreign technology he was confronted with he ran back to his trailer and sucked his uncles dick before railing back a 30 case of Budweiser
In the BCS era, quality of loss reigned supreme, which is part of why we got rid of the computers
Not really, SEC teams have to prove they are quality wins by meating quality opponents, in conference and out of conference. Arkansas was laughable tier until they beat Tennessee and Auburn, which has finally brought them to mediocre because of a mediocre record. Tech also has a mediocre record. Georgia is 5-3, so Tennessee's win over 5-3 Georgia > Arkansas over Tennessee = Tech over Arkansas. Arkansas > Tech, because Auburn > Iowa State or Kansas, since Auburn is 4-4 as well, and Iowa State is 3-5 and Kansas is winless.
Therefore, Tennessee > Arkansas > Tech, despite Tech beating Arkansas and Arkansas beating Tennessee. This is how the SoS measure works.
Every poll plus the comittee has ranked them over Alabama, your only argument against them is "LOL nigger whatever. Bama would bootyblast them". Plus, they are undefeated.
Every poll plus the comittee has ranked them over Alabama, your only argument against them is "We will find out Saturday". Plus, they are undefeated.
3. Ohio State
Every poll plus the comittee has ranked them over Alabama, your only argument against them is "They aren't playing so hot right now.". Plus, they are undefeated.
They beat Ole Miss, who beat Alabama; therefore, they are objectively, undeniably better.
5. Ole Miss
They beat Alabama; therefore, they are objectively, undeniably better.
that was easy
You're stupid as fuck if you couldn't figure out that was a fan of another sec team bashing Alabama.
>not knowing the different between meet and meat
>not knowing how to spell beating properly
Why do you even post
It takes a special kind of idiot (read: you) not only to try and argue a point that I already said is possibly true, but more importantly to miss the point of a post when it is blatantly and explicitly right in front of your eyes, word-for-word.
>at some point they have to be penalized for a loss
At some point they have to be penalized for a loss. Do you understand what this means, Cletus? Can you wrap your brain around the concept of a regular season, around the fact that there is a difference between winning and losing games, and around the fact that maybe - just MAYBE - the University of Alabama's football team isn't God's gift to the cotton belt and that they haven't won a bowl game in two years?
As for 5 teams better than Alabama - I personally think the AP poll actually got the top 6 right for once. I'd also put Florida over Alabama at this point in the season.
Okay douchebags, here's your real top 10:
1. Clemson (8-0)
2. Ohio State (8-0)
3. LSU (7-0)
4. Baylor (7-0)
5. TCU (8-0)
6. Alabama (7-1)
7. Michigan State (8-0)
8. Stanford (7-1)
9. Florida (7-1)
10. Iowa (8-0)
Yeah, pretty much, and hope your team is the one that comes out of the Big 12 on top. In all seriousness, the Big 12 champion will have to beat either 3 undefeated teams or two + Oklahoma. You saw what a win over an undefeated Temple did for Notre Dame. The Big 12 is insanely top heavy and had an absolutely atrocious OOC, and all their best games are at the end. They are rightfully where they are for having not played anybody, but enough Big 12 teams have remained unscathed to this point that anyone who survives that meat grinder will absolutely get in. Remember, the Pac 12 is functionally out unless a lot of teams fuck up
>Implying the spirit of Woody won't cast down from the football heavens in a beacon of shining light, and transcend his spirit into Bosa, as he sacks Deshawn Watson so hard, Clemson is pushed back to a Division 2 tier school
I'm not sure if you are referencing last year, which they lost in dramatic spaghetti spewing fashion to Baylel, or this season, which they are objectively worse and will most likely end the season with a loss or two.
If Ohio state would have scored a TD on their first to redzone trips inside the 5, and if they didn't give up that garbage time TD to Amari Cooper, then it definitely would've been a sound blowout. any way you look at it, Ohio State played better than Bama. They blew a 21-6 lead coming out of the first quarter, and where effectively shut down after that. Which begs the question, where were you when Zeke raped the south as hard as Sherman? Because you definitely weren't in front of a TV.
>Bud Elliott @TomahawkNation 15m15 minutes ago
Florida State Football is going to spend a LOT of time in Florida in 2016
FSU is turning into a sec school with their weak scheduling