Part I: https://4archive.org/tg/thread/38685904
Part II: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/38707081/
Part III: https://4archive.org/tg/thread/38835027
>If anyone knows how to transfer over the Part II archive to the same site as the others, let me know.
+++ OVERVIEW +++
In orbit over prey-world (Deathworld) in D-System:
- Queen Hive Ship (Titan class)
- Offspring Hive Ship (Light Cruiser class)
- Ramsmiter Kraken (Medium escort class)
- Stalker Droneship (Light escort class)
- Narvhal Droneship (Light escort class non-combatant)
In orbit over prey-world (Oceanic) in A-System (astropathic contact lost):
- Vanguard Droneship
- Second potential prey-world (Warped) also in A-System, origin of psychic interference
B-System: Contains a small, cold sun, less likely to have abundant biomass. Several large planets, possibly gas giants. They seem to have moons. These might be worth checking, but will take the droneships longer to scout.
C-System: A binary system, two massive suns and many planets. At least one artificial orbital object of notable size. Definitely settled by prey-things, likely fortified.
+++New Gravimetric Data+++
E-System: Small, cold sun, but significant mid-sized planetary presence. High gravitic flux-pull indicates this system may also be a centralized hub to many others - likely well-trafficked by space-borne prey.
F-System: Super-massive sun, likely to reach nova within the next few millenia. Planetary determination impossible due to overwhelming gravity.
Current determinations requiring synaptic attention:
- Allocation of remaining biomass absorbed from current prey-world.
- Current focus for Norn Queen genetic alterations.
- Composition of recent droneship clutch. Five such drones must be morphed into vanguard, stalker, or kraken strains (kraken use up biomass equivalent to two drones).
>In what manner does biomatter allocation require our direct attention?
Remaining biomatter can be allocated towards the following:
- Allow the Offspring Hive Ship to molt and increase in size.
- Calf a second offspring hive ship.
- Birth a second clutch of ~5 droneships.
- Focus on gestation of complex synaptic terrestrial strains.
- Focus on gestation of overwhelming numbers of simple terrestrial assault strains.
Up to two of the above options are feasible once this prey-world has been entirely consumed.
Synapse is no longer quiescent.
Suggested ship deployment: 1 additional Ramsmiter Kraken, 2 Vanguard Drones, 1 Stalker Drone.
Justification: Krakens have proven useful for orbital bombardment, splinter fleet is vulnerable in void. Additional vanguard drones will allow scouting of additional systems. Stalker drone for launching invasion.
Suggest additional biomass be held in reserve until we encounter prey.
This synapse suggests we either allow the Offspring Hive Ship to molt, or calf a second offspring hive ship, in addition to gestating complex synaptic terrestrial strains.
In regards to our other plans.
Suggest three of the droneships be Stalkers, and two be Vanguards.
What does the Norn Queen believe she can handle comfortably at this time? Or rather, how many basic or complex genetic alterations does she believe can be made, beyond basic adaptation to aquatic environments, during the time spent reaching the ocean world in System A?
Now is an oppertune time to generate addtional highly psychic strains.
This synapse belives their presence might be required, should we journey to A system.
If we go to A system, we are unlikely to initially need orbital bombardment. opposition encountered likely voidborn in nature.
Perhaps gestal can illuminate on the effeciency of a kraken strain versus multiple stalker drones?
The Hive Mind welcomes back all of its constituent entities to full consciousness.
>A 3 stalker, two vanguard disposition was discussed during our last communion.
>Suggested ship deployment: 1 additional Ramsmiter Kraken, 2 Vanguard Drones, 1 Stalker Drone.
Two vanguard drones appears to be supported. Require further deliberation on remaining composition.
Additional query: In terms of Tyrannoformation speed and world consumption rate, would molting the Offspring Hive Ship or calfing a second prove swifter? In terms of gestating terrestrial or void-borne assault organisms?
And three Stalker Drones was nearly unanimously agreed on, in the last communion, as far as this Synapse's accessible genetic memory goes. In either case, support is given to three Stalker Drones.
Query as to ability of current Ramsmiter Kraken to engage and destroy prey vessels efficiently? Against what vessel sizes is it likely to be most effective?
>Suggest three of the droneships be Stalkers, and two be Vanguards.
>What does the Norn Queen believe she can handle comfortably at this time? Or rather, how many basic or complex genetic alterations does she believe can be made, beyond basic adaptation to aquatic environments, during the time spent reaching the ocean world in System A?
Given the travel distance from D-System to Systems A/B/C is quite long, at least two complex genetic alterations would be viable in addition to a number of simple alterations.
>Perhaps gestalt can illuminate on the efficiency of a kraken strain versus multiple stalker drones?
Kraken exhibit superior speed, mobility, and survivability, but have very specialized bioweapon armaments effective against particular prey-vessel types.
Stalker drones are superior for defending/supporting larger ships and are more versatile.
Gestation of complex strains, particularly Hive Tyrants recommended, particularly flying morphs. During last feeding some engagements against metallic non-Prey suffered from lack of synapse control. In addition to direct re-enforcement of terrestrial firepower, flying Hive Tyrants allow for flexible redeployment of synaptic command and control.
>Additional query: In terms of Tyrannoformation speed and world consumption rate, would molting the Offspring Hive Ship or calfing a second prove swifter? In terms of gestating terrestrial or void-borne assault organisms?
Calfing a second Offspring Hive Ship would allow for swifter dissemination of tyrannoforming spores and quicker feeding. Likewise, focusing on terrestrial organisms will speed the tyrannoforming and consumption process, assuming the prey-worlds defense is focussed on the surface and not in orbit.
Our swarm is yet too weak to rely on brute force. adaptability must be our allies. Stalkers.
Additionally this synapse suggests focusing on the gestation of psychic strains and recovery of hive tyrant strain.
This Synapse is awake, and notes the current discussion about development of the swarm with our current biomass reserves.
Wishes to support development of Hive Tyrants, with possible development of more Zoanthropes. Having the ability to deploy zoanthropes and have a reserve in case of emergencies would be quite useful.
What does the Norn Queen consider a simple alteration, beyond what was already described? Would such alterations similar to what was done with the Challenger Primes be considered simple or complex?
This synapse disagrees. Flying strains may be assisted by a form of Shrike similar to the changes made to Tyranid Warriors to allow for Tyranid Primes. Shrike Primes would be both easier to create genetically and to Gestate. Recovering and subsequently gene-splicing Hive Tyrants with Raveners, Trygons, or Trygon Primes to create a subterranean breed of Hive Tyrant would likely be more effective in keeping them safe from prey resistance.
In such a case, this synapse would prefer birthing a second offspring ship, rather than molting the current one, as it will allow for fasting tyrannoformation of the next world, as well as a more balanced fleet composition.
Agreed, however, the Fleet continues some psychic strains already, and they take incredibly long periods of time. If we are to do so, we should first splice them with hardy strains or otherwise enable such an investment to be made more worthwhile.
Confirmed biomass allocation towards gestation/recovery of complex synaptic and psychic strains. Sufficient biomass to allocate towards one other endeavour remains.
Norn Queen current efforts aimed at improving Hive Tyrant genome.
Droneship composition confirmed as three additional stalker droneships, two vanguard droneships.
Stalkers can be metamorphed with the following armaments:
Choose one Primary: Crushing claws or Pyro-acid.
Choose one Secondary: Bio-plasma spit, Hullborer cysts, or reinforced carapace.
Which systems to deploy our two vanguard drones to? B-System, E-System and F-System may require more than one drone to scout in a reasonable time-frame. C-System and E-System may threaten above-average danger to droneship survival.
Suggest one Stalker with Crushing claws, one with Pyro-acid and both with reinforced carapace.
Also suggest deploying 2 drones to B system, to accurately and quickly assess the position.
>What does the Norn Queen consider a simple alteration, beyond what was already described? Would such alterations similar to what was done with the Challenger Primes be considered simple or complex?
Challenger strain Primes were a simple aesthetic alteration, this can be considered simple. The Primes took awhile to gestate due to Primes themselves being a new breed amongst our forces.
Complex strain alterations would include anything which is altered in multiple ways simultaneously, or anything involving alteration of the brain, psychic capability, or extreme size differential from standard, such as recovering genetic memory for developing a Viragon (bio-titan sized Trygon).
We can simply focus gestation efforts on Maleceptors instead of zoanthropes, as these strains are also adept at physical combat.
two crushing claws, one pyro acid, all three with reinforced carapace.
This synapse would like to propose the idea of perhaps sending a vanguard to C system. The system is definetly settled, but we have yet to ascertain the nature of this settlement. it may be far less reinforced than initially indicated, and should A system prove bountiful, our forces should be large enough to overwhelm it. If anything we can seed the populated worlds with genestealer cults preemptively, and then later decide based on their level of success.
Concur: Possibility of a a small meal lightly guarded better than a feast protected by overwhelming force.
Suggestion: Crushing Claws and Re-enforced Carapace for both stalkers. Primary armament on Hive ships is ranged; melee support suggested.
Suggest one Vanguard Drone be sent to System C, and one Vanguard Drone remain with the Fleet to assist in prioritizing prey vessels should such become necessary, or to investigate systems discovered upon arrival in system A.
Suggest one stalker drone with Crushing Claws and Bio-plasma spit, and the others with Pyro-Acid and Reinforced Carapace.
Suggest calfing second Offspring Hive Ship.
Request synaptic input from other synapses as to suggested genetic alterations; this synapse has suggestions as well, but would like to know what fellow synapses believe would be best.
Two crushing claws, one pyro-acid, three reinforced carapace, confirmed for Stalker physiology. Current stalker drone composition is now as follows:
Stalker Drone-Ship I
+ Crushing claws
- Prow bio-plasma spit
- Drone spore cysts
Stalker Drone-Ships II & III
+ Crushing claws
- Reinforced carapace
- Drone spore cysts
Stalker Drone-Ships IV
+ Prow pyro-acid
- Reinforced carapace
- Drone spore cysts
We believe it too early to decide on how to alter established genetic strains. We can make do with tried-and-true strains until a new challenge presents itself.
Suggest remaining spare biomatter be used for the gestation of multiple Psychic strains, such as previouisly mentioned maleceptors
As we will have the capability to alter genetic strains during transit, as it is a matter of time, not biomatter, to refrain from doing so would be an egregious waste.
This synapse does not agree with a major psychic strain focus, preferring a moderate gestation batch, but will accept Preservation Synapse's previous reasoning as to purpose.
Current System deployment stands thusly:
Reminder that the vanguard drone in A-System may still be alive and capable of redeployment upon our arrival.
Also reminder that alteration of strains does not require biomass, only production of strains. Focussing on producing psychic strains and developing genetic potential for psychic strains are two different considerations.
Aggression synapse has reiterated support for calfing additional offspring hive ship multiple times. If no other synapses oppose this, it will be confirmed.
The base forms of our combat strains are highly adaptive, this synapse finds it hard to justify wild genetic alteration with no idea as to what purpose or challenges we will run into.
another ship is acceptable
B system unlikely to contain enough biomatter to be worth the time, reiterate support for scouting of C system with secondary purpose being the establishing of genestealer cults on settled world.
splitting our power between multiple hive ships is not an action this synapse supports. At this time, we need the ability to run from battles and challenges. Spreading ourselves into multiple ships, while useful in some aspects of retreat, would mean us being right back where we started if only one hive ship survives. We must invest into what we own now. This topic could be touched upon later, after System A has been visited and more biomass is accrued.
Mistake has been realized as to Preservation Synapse's meaning; this synapse definitely opposes using biomatter that would otherwise enable us to calf a second Offspring Hive Ship to brood psychic strains. Such is an extremely unnecesary use. A second offspring would allow us to react more quickly to the actions of prey or the immaterial predators and gestate more strains more quickly, in addition to speeding up tyrannoformation process, and allowing a balanced fleet composition which will enable us to perform more effectively in void conflicts.
This synapse reiterates that it supports moving only one Vanguard drone into system B, and keeping the other with the fleet. It is unsure if that intention was made clear previously.
>this synapse definitely opposes using biomatter that would otherwise enable us to calf a second Offspring Hive Ship to brood psychic strains.
Reminder that two of the following are possible:
- Allow the Offspring Hive Ship to molt and increase in size.
- Calf a second offspring hive ship.
- Birth a second clutch of ~5 droneships.
- Focus on gestation of complex synaptic terrestrial strains.
- Focus on gestation of overwhelming numbers of simple terrestrial assault strains.
So far, majority support has been voiced for gestating complex psychic/synaptic strains.
One additional usage of biomass from the above option is still to be determined. Two synapses support calfing of additional OHS, one opposes.
We may use our previous battles experience to determine what genetic alterations may be effective in a variety of situations. There is no downside to creating new strain types, as we will retain ability to create the old ones.
This synapse also would like to explain that it supports B-system due to the time that will be necessary to take in system A to subdue and consume it's worlds, and due to low risk of discovery by prey creatures compared to system C. System C may be tertiary, after system B. Time is not something we lack, so long as we remain concealed.
Hive Tyrant strain is already being reconstituted.
This synapse understands, and supports gestation of complex psychic/synaptic strains with a portion of the biomatter obtained; it opposes using all of biomatter which is what it had seemed like preservation synapse suggested.
suggest alternative of gestation of overwhelming number of simple terrestrial assault strains as opposed to another hive ship. With our plans to head to system A, having to fight warp enemy might prove necessary. Being able to overwhelm them in a surprise attack might be critical in coming war.
Counterpoint; in System A, we will be consuming the Ocean World first. Whilst and after doing so, we may easily produce mass amounts of simple assault strains. Being able to survive long enough to reach and consume that world, and the tainted world afterwards, in a reasonable amount of time, takes precedence.
Two synapses support calfing second OHS, one supports massive gestation cycle of simple planetary assault organisms. All are in agreement in complex strain production. Norn Queen current focus is on restoring/augmenting Hive Tyrant and variants. System disposition of vanguard drones still inconclusive.
Scout B and C with one drone each. If C-assigned drone makes it in unnoticed, have it seed all settled worlds with genestealer cults.
This allows us the greatest ammount of options after A system has been dealt with.
>Scout B and C with one drone each. If C-assigned drone makes it in unnoticed, have it seed all settled worlds with genestealer cults.
This seems to be the best compromise so far. Supported by the Norn Queen. It shall be done.
Final reiteration for synapses to voice approval/opposition on calving a second Offspring Hive Ship - as it stands, it will be confirmed.
Hunter Synapse will bow to the concerns of his fellows, agreeing that if all goes as planned Oceanic world will be easily consumed.
Only true concern is that enemy will have expanded to Oceanic world, being the reason we have lost contact with vanguard stationed on planet. We will have to confront that possibility only when we reach there.
Support construction of other Hive ship, and deployment of Scouts B and C as suggested. Query, do we have 2 vanguards available or 3?
Excellent, consensus obtained on all current issues!
>Query, do we have 2 vanguards available or 3?
2 are available with the Hive Fleet in D-system, 1 may or may not be alive and available in A-System upon arrival.
Beginning preparations for gravitic tunneling shortly.
Contact was lost with oceanic world due to overwhelming Psychic(?) nature of non-prey organism in secondary world in A system. This effect originates from secondary world, but affects entire system.
If such is the case, an additional Offspring Hive Ship will be all the more important; terrestrial assault is not a problem for the hive. Void battles, in our current state, are.
Requesting Norn Queen's plans for genetic alteration during trip?
The gestalt was too hasty - one new deliberation now stands.
Armament of new Offspring Hive Ship (OHS II).
Clone current OHS genome or diversify with variant morphology?
Refresher on genetic pool available - one Primary and two Secondary chosen from the following (secondary weapons are identical in usage, but weaker):
- Ripper tentacles
- Crushing claws
- Bio-plasma spit
- Bio-plasma discharge
- Prow pyro-acid battery
- Prow hullborer cysts
And one biomorph:
- Reinforced carapace (defensive option)
- Extended solar vanes (better speed)
- Adrenaline sacs (allows for single large burst of speed during a battle, and enhanced melee strength
- Enhanced regeneration
We suggest a morph Desgined for mid-range interception as opposed to the long range bombardment orientation of queen ship and primary offspring ship
plasma discharge (?)
and ripper tentacles
>Requesting Norn Queen's plans for genetic alteration during trip?
Firstly, augmenting Hive Tyrants with a multitude of possible variants (aquatic, subterranean, aerial).
Secondly, unless opposed, development of Maleceptor strain.
Minor acclimatization of all current strains to aquatic sub-species.
Bio plasma discharge as her primary, With perhaps Bio plasma spit and ripper tentacles as her secondaries. As Preservation Synapse notes, we have enough long range bombardment. now it is time for a mid range vessel.
We will need this vessel fast, and so this synapse supports extended solar vanes.
Primary Bio-plasma Discharge
Secondary Ripper Tentacles and Bio-Plasma Spit
Biomorph Extended Solar Vanes
For once we find ourselves in total agreement.
Additionally, such speed will allow it to synaptically support our close-range drone ships.
>What is this 'I' you speak of?
Names remain unimportant. We are the hive fleet. The prey may classify as as Hive Fleet Aboleth, or Hive Fleet Nautilus, once we are discovered, which we should put off for as long as possible.
Gravitic tunneling commenced. FTL transit in progress.
The Shadow has penetrated the psychic interference. Contact re-established with our vanguard drone.
A massive debris field has accumulated around the Warp world, patrolled by corrupted prey-vessels now fused with immaterials. Survivors of the infighting have retreated to the Oceanic world and are engaged in hit & run combat with our seeded forces. They should pose little threat to consumption efforts.
There many suggestions.
This one suggested hivefleet Lindorm (lindworm, lindwyrm)
Given our preferrences in combat, Hive fleet Chameleon would be fitting aswell.
a quick question: how do the ranges of the queen ship's armament compare to our other options for ranged armament. Could we expect to benefit from a ranged engagement against prey?
Proceed with travel to ocean world. Immaterial predators will wait until we can engage them with greater efficacy.
Our Hive Ship is primarily ranged, but our fleet's weapons are best suited to close quarters engagements and boarding of prey vessels, in order to consume biomass to replenish damage from said engagements.
Reconnect with lesser brod forms. We need strategical synopsis of the situation.
(a cheap mspaint map would help avoid alot of the confusion suffered on prey-world D)
This one believes that we would, provided enemy forces are not of overwhelming number or capability.
Hullborer armaments have theoretically extreme range, as they deploy mobile target-seeking ordnance, although fast-moving craft can evade them indefinitely. Pyro-acid bombardment likewise has high range and excellent anti-armour capability, but suffers from a weakness against shields and small fast craft (though to a lesser degree than hullborers).
Information needed: Request estimate of number and combat potential of void combatants in orbit around warp world, travel time for these combatants between oceanic world and warp world.
Cognitive difficulties resolved. Returning to full activity.
Cartographic imprints will be provided in the future when required. Oceanic world unlikely to need it, however.
>Information needed: Request estimate of number and combat potential of void combatants in orbit around warp world, travel time for these combatants between oceanic world and warp world.
During last vanguard scouting patrol, it numbered 3-5 Battlecruiser class vessels, similar number of escort vessels. Difficult to determine if others were hidden amongst the debris. Travel time between prey-worlds is approx. 12 days.
Hive Fleet arriving in-system.
Scout upper atmosphere of oceanic world. To be here to begin with, our prey must be capable of void flight, finding these vessels and neutralizing them should be our first and primary priority.
Assuming they remain within visual range. Due to planetary orbits, this may not always be the case. This will also significantly alter the travel distance between the two as time goes on. The vanguard drone can be redeployed throughout the system to maintain reconnaissance but could draw attention to itself if we are unfortunate.
According to the vanguard drones information, the prey-vessel which fled to the Oceanic world was heavily wounded and crashed into the surface. Its husk currently serves as the prey-things nest.
Suggest re-deployment of Vanguard drone to monitor void combatants around Warp world and ensuring void stance allows for redeployment away from planet in less than 10 days. Enemy fleet potential is cause for concern.
on a small landmass on the oceanic world?
Perhaps an agressive, simple mycetic spore drop assault will clear out the prey nest effectively, they have yet to encounter our brood in the numbers we bring, and the element of suprise is still ours.
Approaching prey-world II (Oceanic):
Vanguard geographical surveys indicate it has three small landmasses - South, North, and Polar North. Non-indigenous prey-things vessel crashed in the Polar North.
Tyrannoforming algae has already covered 14% of the water's surface starting at the warmer equatorial zone. Aquatic hormagaunts are in their 35th-40th brood iterations and have adapted spectacularly. Bringing them within synaptic control sooner rather than later is imperative - around the 60th iteration they may be too far deviated from core Hive Fleet genome to respond to our current synapse broods.
We cannot do anything about them at this time; it is better to remain hidden than risk their discovery of us.
Even if they do realize our presence, they may not attack until we threaten their hunting grounds.
Query: Would it be possible to, at some point, create or modify a drone-ship to be capable of lowering itself into the atmosphere and surface, and climbing back up via reinforced capillary towers?
Additionally, would it be possible to produce vessels that are not the size of a full drone-ship, but still significant in size, capable of acting as gigantic Tyrannocytes or Mycetic spores?
In any case, initial heavy drop of Mycetic spores directly onto or around their nest is advised, so long as they lack the capability to shoot them down effectively. If they retain the capability, primary drop site should be located in the oceans, at a deep area, but off the shore of the area where the prey make their nest.
It is likely the case. This synapse agrees, but if their vessel's husk bears weaponry still, such a course of action could easily backfire.
the enemy is hiding in their nest. Consideration: Deploying a number of Genestealers and lictors into base will focus prey on their homefront, and allow us to focus on tyrranoforming world.
Also suggest 2 smaller hive ships dock on planet, and our larger ship acts as guardian above space. Will be able to hold back enemy corrupted vessels if they take an interest in this world.
If such is the case, secondary drop site should be near hormagaunt broods, to reestablish synaptic control.
Holding back from descending into atmosphere is advised by this synapse; we are capable of feeding from outside just as easily; it is only a matter of time, and it will allow us to respond to the predator vessels should they attack.
>Query: Would it be possible to, at some point, create or modify a drone-ship to be capable of lowering itself into the atmosphere and surface, and climbing back up via reinforced capillary towers?
>Additionally, would it be possible to produce vessels that are not the size of a full drone-ship, but still significant in size, capable of acting as gigantic Tyrannocytes or Mycetic spores?
Yes. These strains are known as 'broodships' and were commonly employed by our parent fleet Kraken, a significant departure from Leviathan and Behemoth's methods.
Take measures to bring them under our control then.
We have limited information regarding the capabilit of our enemies. let us not be hasty to make such assumptions.
we support this course of action.
Are broodships small enough to be expendable, and dropped in a almost an orbital bombardment fashion, raining pyro-acid, bio-plasma, and venom cannon fire before impacting and releasing bursts of such fire to assist in demolishing large enemy formations?
Concur with reasoning, however, maintain that vigilance and a posture allowing rapid flight from planet is required.
Suggestion: Deployment of aquatic adapted synapse creatures to oceans as initial move. Once synaptic control is established we can determine strength of local prey species, local tyranid forces, and next appropriate move for orbital forces.
It appears we have two strategies suggested currently:
- Immediate orbital mycetic assault on prey-vessel in the Polar North.
- Infiltration of prey-vessel in Polar North by lictor/genestealer organisms, allowing the Hive Fleet to disperse mycetic seeding across a wider area for ease of tyrannoforming.
Prey-vessel husk remaining weapon capabilities unknown at this time.
Suggested middle ground: Make the infiltration brood large enough that it could reasonably divide and destroy the prey husk by itself while we focus on taking synaptic control over aqautic hormagaunts and begin mass seeding.
>Are broodships small enough to be expendable
Relative to current fleet strength, no. Of course if this prey-world is assimilated easily, any biomass expended on the surface in such a manner will be reclaimed.
We are the hunters. We feed. We are the aggressors, and the keepers. We are the Hive Mind. There is no Flight, beyond that of aerial movement in pursuit of prey, or return to a brood nest. There is only Fighting, and feeding. Such prey-like behaviour is uncharacteristic of you, Hunger Synapse. We can deal with them so long as we know they are coming, which will not be difficult to know.
Suggest primary mycetic assault on prey-vessel, accompanied by lesser mycetic seeding across wide area; prey-vessel mycetic assault should consist of primarily infiltration organisms, allowing for both shock effect and continuing harassment should the prey live.
Not compared to current fleet strength, but rather; would it be possible to make broodships small enough to be capable of sustaining between one to two dozen for each hive ship, once this world is consumed, and using them in assaults?
Two synapses seem to support vanguard deployment-in-force consisting of massed genestealer shock strains and lictors.
Is this opposed?
>would it be possible to make broodships small enough to be capable of sustaining between one to two dozen for each hive ship, once this world is consumed, and using them in assaults?
Once this world is consumed, yes, this would be well within capabilities.
Excellent. Would such broodships also be able to support relatively high numbers of spore cysts that they may deploy as they fall to assist in 'safe' landing?
While we are not sure of weapons capability, numbers are unimportant. We have the biomass to spare on an assault, and will be capable of recovering any lost from the assault once the prey has been subdued.
Prey void ships contain scant biomass. Immaterial beings contain none. Engagements that do not feed should be avoided. Hunger is total. Hunger is for the galaxy, not for battle, not for a single world. We must consume all. All cannot be consumed if we are broken in orbit.
Welcome back to the Hive Mind's embrace.
- Which Hive Ships will be used to seed which regions? Particular consideration must be given to the Queen Hive Ship, as this is the only one that possesses large synapse strains in any number. Furthermore, when new strains are developed by the Norn Queen, it will take some time before the Offspring Hive Ships are able to clone and produce them as well.
>Excellent. Would such broodships also be able to support relatively high numbers of spore cysts that they may deploy as they fall to assist in 'safe' landing?
Such a variant could be created, but this would reduce capacity for transporting other organisms.
The Norn Queen supports this sentiment.
We would like to reiterate suggested middleground: Deploy infiltration strains in large enough numbers that their presence alone could collapse the integrity of prey nest.
deploy Queen ship preferably in an adaptable center position where it will allow us the greatest area of influence for retaking control of gaunt subspecies and seeding the planet
We will not be broken in orbit. To flee is to invite chase; they are predators. As such, they likely perform more effectively when pursuing prey. We cannot become prey. Should they attack, we have enough vessels to respond effectively.
Queen Hive Ship should deploy near Polar North Region, between north and polar north landmasses
Hullborer Offspring Hive Ship should deploy in deep ocean, near aquatic hormagaunt strains.
Bio-plasma Offspring Hive Ship should deploy near South landmass' coasts.
Employ daughter ships for seeding of southern hemisphere with basic synapse strains; main ship for seeing northern hemisphere. Main ship will be in better position to deploy rapidly against prey-nest once infiltration and synaptic net on planet gives information on constitution and capabilities of prey.
Suggest Deploying our two offspring to the planet, one on south continent and one on north continent. they will avoid the polar north after our infiltration groups have deployed.
Suggest queen ship does not devote to one continent in particular, and instead should deploy mycetic spores with Larger synaptic strains when needed. This can allow larger ship to stay in orbit, and keep a better eye on possible attackers.
Apologies for delayed response. The gestalt is still cohesive.
Overwhelming support seems to be for Hunter Synapse's suggestion, it is underway. Reminding the synaptic network, however, that >>38860396 is correct - the ships do not need to descend into atmosphere to deploy mycetic spores.
query, then. What would the elapsed time be for capillary construction, as compared to hive ships landing? this synapse assumes that the landing would be quicker, even if capillary tower construction would be safer.
One Hive Ship is sufficient for a single system.
Massive Hive Fleets create a Shadow that spans hundreds of light-years and can cut off entire sub-sectors or even greater areas.
Hive Ships never land upon the surface directly - all feeding is facilitated by capillary towers. Descending into atmosphere can allow feeding to commence more quickly, as it does not require waiting until the towers grow to such a height that they breach the upper atmosphere, but the towers are always needed.
Landing is not possible, at least not safely, as far as this synapse is aware.
We may descend into atmosphere so that capillary towers may reach our hive ships more quickly, but we do not need to, and we will then be confined to this world until the atmosphere is stripped. Not advised, with predators in system.
apologies. this synapse was using landing to refer to coming into atmosphere to feed. we are at least somewhat aware that landing mulitple kilometer long vessels and hoping to pull them off the planet again is a little large a request.
this synapse is more concerned with the reduction in time between going into atmos to feed compared to staying in orbit and waiting for the towers to grow larger.
Invasion of prey-world II (Oceanic Biome) Day 1:
Daughter Hive Ships began initial mycetic spore seeding across the upper and lower hemispheres.
Vanguard broods were deployed at the shores of the Polar North landmass to infiltrate the prey-things territory.
Queen Hive Ship holding current orbit over the equatorial region. require synaptic consensus on composition of synapse forces deployed. We have in uteri:
- Large numbers of aquatic strain Warriors as well as Shrikes adapted to glide indefinitely on ocean currents.
- Prime strains for both of the above.
- Sea strain Trygon Primes.
- Limited numbers (around a dozen) of the first clutch of Hive Tyrants, both aquatic and winged.
- A small number of Tervigons adapted to float on the surface and disperse aquatic gaunt strains into the depths.
We oppose doing so, as it will still take a significant amount of time to consume the planet, and strip the atmosphere; lowering ships into atmosphere will make it almost impossible for them to support each other, and leave our escorts vulnerable. Should the predators notice us, they are unlikely to be able to resist such prey.
If we wish, though, we might be able to intentionally bait them in that way...
it would seem unwise to tether ourself to this world with active threats in-system.
we did it on prey-world D when we were deathly malnourished, and time was of the essence. these are not considerations we need to make currently.
Are there subterranean Hive Tyrants available yet?
If not, then deploy approximately one third of current Hive Tyrants in addition to approximately one half of aquatic Tervigons and Trygon Primes. Additionally, deploy Aquatic strain Warriors and Shrikes, with smaller numbers of Primes.
Possibility of sea-strain venomthropes?
Fair enough. Will no longer suggest atmospheric docking.
Support deployment of Trygon Primes and Tervigons. Trygons will focus on securing Hormagaunt swarms, while tervigons will disperse gaunt strains to expand reaches.
Produce whichever speeds tyrannoformation up the most.
combat strains can be further visited should we encounter more resistance than previously anticipated.
Additional strategic consideration:
Our bio-modified Kraken ship could effect direct orbital bombardment of the Polar North region. However, there are currently no usable debris fields within immediate vicinity of the prey-world, and we will need to forage around the system in order to do so. One of the offspring Hive Ships can be deployed alongside the Kraken for synaptic control for this purpose. Thoughts?
Furthermore, initial discoveries from the vanguard forces at the Polar North suggest that the prey-things are almost entirely comprise of psychic-capable organisms. There is a possibility they sent out astropathic distress calls prior to our arrival, though they may have been stifled by the same psychic interference that cut us off from the vanguard drone and are most certainly stifled now by the Shadow.
>Are there subterranean Hive Tyrants available yet?
Yes, although they will be of little use in the water and there is not much landmass, nor is their strategic acumen necessary at this time, as directing of ravener broods against indigenous life can be easily accomplished with Trygon Primes or Ravener Alphas.
>Possibility of sea-strain venomthropes?
Already deployed in the first-wave tyrannocyte drops.>>38861072
>Produce whichever speeds tyrannoformation up the most.
This is likely to be the Tervigons.
This Synapse suggests that speed is the key to our success. We must move quickly and capitalize on our two key advantages:
This Synapse does not suggest orbital bombardment of the Polar North. If distress signals have been sent, reinforcements may be en route. The forces at our disposal will be enough, this Synapse is sure.
Do not support our Kraken going afield for bombardment purposes. This raises possibility of predators taking note, and putting kraken in orbit of husk, even if it is to deploy an attack, runs the risk of husk using weapons on Kraken.
Oppose, for the moment; unnecessary, and likely to attract immaterial predator's attention.
Request input as to feasibility of anti-psychic bioforms; this synapse understands that any organism capable of actually preventing psychic contact would be extremely counter-productive due to reducing synaptic effects, but would it be possible to create an organism capable of utilizing their psychic capabilities against them, to consume their minds, for example?
>wot u doin' breakin' character brah
They appear to be a variant strain of previously encountered prey-forces upon Ichar IV. Highly resilient against most forms of toxic bioweaponry and gauntii strains, approximate match in strength to genestealers but lacking in agility by comparison. However, most of those encountered before were non-psyker.
Synaptic composition suggestions noted, will begin primarily with aquatic Tervigons and a small clutch of faster-moving sea strain Trygon Primes to shepherd the feral Hormagaunts.
Our experiences at ichar IV tells us to to not underestimate these prey organisms.
perhaps we can...consume this preyworld while keeping engagements with them to a minimum, their mobility should be highly limited, and their numbers very low.
Harmonic Synapse awakening
Harmonic Synapse votes for ignore of prey due to low numbers and limited mobility. This synapse thinks its better to focus on spread as fast as possible around the water planet and start feeding. If prey does something dangerous just overwhelm them with the already numerous breeds at that point
This synapse is curious as to the possibility of aquatic Carnifexii, and our current number of Mawlocs.
Do we have Dimaechaerons available to deploy, or Broodlords to deploy alongside Genestealer broods in force to combat psychic prey?
This synapse anticipates the possibilities of incorporating such prey's genetic information into the Hive Mind. Orbital Bombardment is not an option; we must consume such creatures for our own use. Raveners and Trygons will likely prove effective...until we have a firmer hold on the planet, however, it is ill-advised.
Continue with tyrannoformation, avoid excess confrontation with prey-forces unless they present threat to feeding operations.
This Synapse sees no concern from these prey-organisms. Current forces at our disposal are more than adequate to overwhelm them at their weakest points. Again, mobility will be they key to our victory.
Again, this Synapse urges speed. These prey-forms are important strains, they may very well have reinforcements nearby.
The Norn Queen has suggested an alternative strategy. There is a possibility of breeding a variant Mawloc strain known as a 'magma corer' which is used to burrow beneath a prey-worlds outermost geological layer and release heat and gasses trapped underneath to facilitate tyrannoformation and fertilize worlds with poor soil composition. Utilized here, it may cause the polar ice region to become unstable and melt into the oceans.
It will take some time to reconstitute this strain, and could impact climates elsewhere on the prey-world in unforeseen ways. Thoughts?
too likely to draw the attention of immaterial non-prey organisms.
tactical suggestion: ignore agressive prey organisms until complete foothold of world has been established, then completely surround and overwhelm them.
We can support this cause of action, let us however hold off until the most vital biomass has been secured.
This Synapse is also eager to streamline with other synapses in order to reach consensus faster. Survival might depend on speed and thought harmonization as much as pure brute force
This synapse concurs
This synapse votes for having that as secondary priority and start feeding and multiplying as top priority
This synapse would like to point out that speed is not to be pursued for it's own sake, and that unnecessary haste is highly inadvisable. Time is on our side, not the prey's.
While if they were spread out, that might be correct, they have a fortified position within that husk, and their mobility is not to be underestimated; they likely have equivalent or greater mobility than the prey-creatures encountered on Ichar IV, and those were among the most mobile forces we faced on the planet's surface.
Agreed. There is no need for a magma corer at this time.
An interesting suggestion, but there is concern from this one that this could cause more damage then it would solve. At this time, these psychic prey are isolated and controlled. Performing such an attack might prove too much.
>This synapse is curious as to the possibility of aquatic Carnifexii, and our current number of Mawlocs.
Aquatic Carnifexii are available for mycetic deployment. Modified Mawlocs have already been seeded in several locations and their numbers can be increased if desired.
>Do we have Dimaechaerons available to deploy, or Broodlords to deploy alongside Genestealer broods in force to combat psychic prey?
Dimachaerons are not a known variant to us at this time. It is possible their genome is buried deep in Hive Fleet Kraken's genetic memory pool, but would take some time to isolate and replicate.
Broodlords have already been deployed in small numbers with our vanguard forces at the Polar North. Increase their numbers?
>This synapse anticipates the possibilities of incorporating such prey's genetic information into the Hive Mind. Orbital Bombardment is not an option; we must consume such creatures for our own use.
Noted, and supported by the Norn Queen.
Although this synapse is eager to harmonize, want to point out that we do not know if the phenomena could be detected by other prey and suddenly be caught and forced to leave in haste
increase numbers but do not enter contact with prey. stay away from their sight until needed
>Also let's make our own unique strains
>Let Niddhoggr keep it's stuff
>Nautilus/Aboleth can be an aquatic based Hive Fleet...so how about stuff that induces tidal waves, hurricanes, sinks continents/floods areas with ease...large scale disruption of prey's organization and coordination capabilities...hehehehe...
No need to increase numbers; this synapse simply wanted to be sure.
Use of Trygons and Mawlocs to seed area below prey nest with tunnels that can be collapsed by strategically placed Spore Mines when needed recommended; we can collapse their nest before the final assault.
Interesting strategy. We should consider usage of this Magma Corer strain in later attacks on prey-worlds, but for now it would be more prudent to use the more 'tried and true' methods.
Further suggestion: Infiltrating organisms should attempt to hinder mobility of prey-organisms for as long as possible.
This synapse would point out that these prey-organisms likely have some knowledge of our tactics, even if they are not the exact ones as encountered on Ichar IV. Furthermore, even fortified, they are still outnumbered, and are largely immobile. Put simply, they cannot defend everywhere at once. While they are isolated now, this synapse does not feel they will act passively.
This synapse will point out that prey-organisms like these will not sit by idly. They will counter-attack, they will feint, they will attempt to delay us. We must strike first, either to hamper their mobility, what little they have. Or, we must strike first to throw them into disarray.
They will; however, we cannot be sure what tactics they will use. They may well believe they have reinforcements coming. And that may even be true. They will be able to do little, particularly off that landmass.
This synapse suggests use of spore mines as a preventative measure; meiotic as well, to prevent aerial movement by prey. Such tactics served us well with the non-prey; they should serve similarly with this prey.
Suggestion; Keep vanguard forces at a safe distance from enemy nest, have them relay up-to-date information feeds. Should the enemy EVER venture out of their base in smaller parties, have them initiate ambush tactics immidiately.
From memory and observation these have been the most prominent and distinguishing traits of our splinter fleet so far:
-Deception (chameleon spores, challenger strains)
-infiltration (excessive use of raveners, trygons and mawloc based strategies)
-extreme mobility (high focus on mobile air units and afformentioned subterranean units)
-devastating alpha strikes
and finally adaptability.
Synaptic consensus seems weighted towards opposing the magma corer strain. The Norn Queen accedes.
Invasion of prey-world II (Oceanic Biome) Day 5:
Estimated 60% or more of feral hormagauntii have been brought within synaptic control. Shrikes are attempting to track down the remaining broods.
Initial feeding has gone well. Aquatic rippers are numerous and multiplying rapidly, and several digestion vesicles have already been discovered within a number of tidal pools from the initial vanguard seeding undertaken by the droneship.
The prey-things in the Polar North have proven to be more than a match for our infiltration forces. Psychic fire has obliterated most of our Genestealers and forced the rest to retreat, and Lictors have had little success in isolating single members for assassination.
Another consideration remains, where to grow our capillary clusters:
- Doing so on the landmasses and shallow areas will allow us to begin feeding sooner, but will slow consumption in the long run as it will restrict them to certain locations, making transport of biomass through capillary roots take longer from the further regions.
- Modify our feeder organisms and flora for deployment to the depths, where we can begin growth of capillary spires directly in the oceans.
>the Hive has no gender :P
>Be a mediator, not a yes-napse :P
We have made heavy use of infiltrating units to disrupt enemy tactics and units, and large scale use of this is unlikely to be ineffective against large scale enemies.
Adaptability is a trait of all Hive Fleets, and cannot be said to be special within this one.
Modify feeder organisms and flora for depths; we do not need to feed immediately.
Repeat query as to possibility of anti-psychic organism. Request feasibility analysis of subterranean psychic strain.
Repeat request for heavy spore mine seeding around prey-nest.
support modifying feeder organisms and flora for the depths. This will also help protect the base of the capillary tower from most traditional attacks.
support Aggression Synapse in spore mine seeding around prey nest by queen hive ship, and looking into possible deployment of anti-psychic organisms. Possible deployment of Neurothropes with Zoanthrope support?
prioritize feeding speed over capillary growth. oceanic growth
This synapse would disagree. disruption tactics are unlikely to become less effective as scale of confrontation grows, it has previously proven extremely effective and we can deploy it alongside more standardised strategies.
conceeded on adaptability (though the slingshot(?) strain mutation on the kraken for use in orbital bombardment was pretty clever)
Majority of capillary flora will be established in the depths, confirmed. This will require the Norn Queen's attention for a short period.
>Repeat query as to possibility of anti-psychic organism. Request feasibility analysis of subterranean psychic strain.
Likely outside of our capabilities, apart from deployment of Maleceptors.
>Repeat request for heavy spore mine seeding around prey-nest.
Noted. Which vector shall be used?
- Biovores deployed at the shoreline.
- Harpy seeding.
- Direct orbital bombardment by Hive Ships, may allow counter-attack if prey-vessel husk is weapons-capable.
Variants previously encountered at ichar IV were highly dangerous. Psyker variant likely specialized, higher value form.
Supposition: Regardless of interference, these prey-organisms are being tracked, disappearance will be investigated.
Inference: These prey organisms will not waste strength in risky battles if they expect to be reinforced.
Corollary: The re-enforcements will be expecting immaterial beings, not a hive splinter fleet.
Conclusion: Monitor closely, isolate, and keep forces on standby surrounding prey. Focus on consumption of biomass to prepare for orbital battle. Use overwhelming force to crush stronghold at terminal phase of biomass consumption.
Have our infiltrating forces been able to determine the number of prey-things in the Polar North, and/or determined how mobile they could be?
Modify feeder organisms and flora for deployment to the depths. How long would this take to occur?
>Query: Forces on planet that are not involved in biomass feeding?
Synaptic overseer broods (Shrikes, aquatic Warriors) are primarily serving as relay nodes for feeder organisms rather than feeding directly.
Infiltration broods in the North, likewise.
All others are purposed for spreading tyrannoformation, exterminating indigenous life-forms or harvesting biomass.
>What is this 'I' you speak of
This synapse disagrees; while the principle behind it is sound, the question of which landmass is present, and it would be simply overall more efficient to feed from the oceans directly with all hive ships, as it would simply entail the downsides of both were we to attempt both.
This synapse does not believe we possess neurothropes, nor their genetic base for gestation at this time. It is likely such a bioform would prove ineffective if the prey turn out to be powerful psychic organisms as it seems to be.
Preservation synapse seems to have misunderstood this synapses' meaning; recommend re-considering communications records in genetic memory
>That's what I was saying in my roundabout way
Maleceptors unlikely to be available within reasonable time frame. Unfortunate.
Biovores with carnifexii guard recommended. Light bombardment with spore mines directly to test if prey-vessel husk is weapons-capable recommended.
It is likely they have already determined that a Hive Fleet is in orbit, though the reinforcements are likely to attack immaterial predators first, should they notice such first. Plan aligns with previously determined action plans.
This synapse repeats desire for tunnel and spore mine seeding below prey nest in preparation for such overwhelming assault.
With anyone being able to place value and/or argue coherently with you? Yes.
Disagree vehemently; Harpies are far more valuable than spore mines, cannot be wasted on testing weapons capabilities.
Their numbers appear to be small but potent. They are utilizing a form of psychic spatial distortion technique in order to redeploy rapidly around the territory, which makes them not only extremely mobile but also confounds efforts to accurately determine their number, as they can strike almost anywhere on the landmass and retreat to defend the vessel-husk instantaneously.
>Modify feeder organisms and flora for deployment to the depths. How long would this take to occur?
Genetic modifications should be completed in only 3-4 days. Natural selective testing to determine which strain is most successful will take significantly longer.
So, They may attack us on any part of the northern pole, and retreat quickly back to there nest?, Displeasing. We should begin massing organisms for an assault to remove them once and for all.
But they do not possess strike capabilities outside of the northern pole, correct?
>Preservation synapse seems to have misunderstood this synapses' meaning; recommend re-considering communications records in genetic memory
We are having trouble following now. misunderstanding likely, irrellevant either way.
>Strike almost anywhere on the landmass and retreat
This synapse suggests that we attempt to 'bait' the silver-prey-things into battle. At the same time we assault the hulk directly. The prey-things will be caught between two hard decisions, and will either be forced to split their forces, or lose their base of operations.
We must determine whether the hulk is weapon-capable. But even if it is, we must make the attempt to root these prey-things out. They are aggressive, mobile, and limited in number.
But we are aggressive, mobile, and unlimited in our numbers.
>This synapse repeats desire for tunnel and spore mine seeding below prey nest in preparation for such overwhelming assault.
Tunneling underway - spore mines lack the force to cause tunnel collapses, however, and are primarily vectors for fragmentation/toxic and acid dispersion. Anti-infantry focussed, rather than structural damage.
>This synapse does not believe we possess neurothropes, nor their genetic base for gestation at this time.
Accurate. The Neurothrope strain has never been part of our genetic banks. It is likely it was a recent adaptation by the Iyanden tendril, which we lost contact with around the same time as the splintering occurred at Ichar IV.
>Biovores with carnifexii guard recommended. Light bombardment with spore mines directly to test if prey-vessel husk is weapons-capable recommended.
Apologies if unclear, not recommending assault.
Using Harpies for Spore mine seeding seems to be logical option. Direct bombardment risks damage to Hive ship if prey retains operational ship based weapons. Biovores lack mobility and may be destroyed in detail. Small groups of harpies allow seeding with lowest risk, albeit at increased time cost.
Perhaps purpose fully massing a 'large' brood of lesser organisms acompanied by challenger strains,where our enemy would definetly notice us, would allow us to bait enemy combat strains out of their nest, at which point we strike at the nest.
>But they do not possess strike capabilities outside of the northern pole, correct?
Not that we have observed, but this cannot be confirmed.
>This synapse suggests that we attempt to 'bait' the silver-prey-things into battle. At the same time we assault the hulk directly. The prey-things will be caught between two hard decisions, and will either be forced to split their forces, or lose their base of operations.
Deployment of 'challenger' strain Primes?
This informs us that we should take steps to prepare traps to lure them into attacking specific areas before overwhelming them whilst they are disoriented from the spatial disorientation.
Possibility of pyro-acid battery use to bombard prey-nest?
Possibility for concussion-based spore mine? Utilizing toxin clouds or smaller spore dispersers that are capable of being ignited to create concentrated shockwave? Or ability for Trygons to use Bio-Electric Pulse to collapse tunnels?
>Fuel-Air Spore Mines
>Because why not
Hive Ships do not have to descend to deploy spore mines. Indeed, they barely have to move at all, especially since some of our escorts have the capability to deploy spore mines. Husks would be able to shoot down falling spore mines, no more.
Challenger strains may be useful to lure psychic prey; however, not recommended at this time; once a stronger foothold is established on the planet, and we can be sure of at least some success with ambush tactics, we can use them. They are less likely to feel compelled by honor, considered we have not seen any specifically leader organisms among them.
Harmonic Synapse request the viability of some kind of warp monitoring around the system. Anticipation of reinforcements for canned prey things haunts this synapse as primal danger for survival.
Inference: Tunneling might be worthless if they can redeploy there.
>Not that we have observed, but this cannot be confirmed.
Troubling news. Harmonic Synapse votes for massed bombardment followed by overwhelming land attack when feeder tubes are finished
Counterpoint: They cannot deploy there if they do not know it is there, and should they attempt to deploy there and misjudge even slightly, they are likely to die due to their own powers.
This synapse continues to oppose bombardment; genetic material value of prey too high.
The Shadow of the warp, effectively cuts of the system, if anyone wanted to attempt to travel into this system currently, it may bare a extreme risk to there astropathicas.
agreed on the establishment of firmer foothold first, would like to note however; That 'honour' is only one facet the challenger strain preys on.
its secondary characteristic is appearing -valuable- which will prey on enemy utalitarianism or our enemies eagerness to strike a vital blow against us. (poor, misguided prey)
Focus on consumption of biomass, if they prey-things cannot leave the Polar North, they are unable to attack us as we grow in strength.
When we are ready, then we will use Preservation Synapses plan, deploy 'challenger' strain Primes, while we attempt an assault on the prey-things nest.
A flawed inference. Tunneling gives us greater options to assault the nest, and is one more place for the prey-things to defend. We may lose our advantage in numbers, but we can lose numbers. They cannot.
Gestalt, are our infiltrating forces able to determine the state of the weapons? And can our Genestealers and Lictors act to sabotage vital systems? If we cannot bleed the prey-things, then at least we can deprive them of munitions and food-stuffs.
>Possibility of pyro-acid battery use to bombard prey-nest?
Pyro-acid vesicle pods adapted for ballistic use in void environments, will implode within atmosphere. Mycetic spore bombardments, including mucolid strains and mine clusters, is the primary method of orbital attack among our vessels.
>Possibility for concussion-based spore mine?
Biological mechanism for creating these with sufficient force to cause collapse is unknown. Mawlocs likely a better alternative.
Recommend holding off on any action beyond perimeter skirmishing or establishing defensive spore mine positions until towers established or until enemy begins taking aggressive action.
Enemy capabilities are significant, and largely unknown in their extent. They are on the defensive. Every day they defend we gain more biomass and greater productive capability. Terrestrial battle becomes more and more favorable.
Question: Has there been any change in the deployment or disposition of Warp entities?
Thought: We are, in effect, part of a three way battle. The winner of such struggles is typically the one who engages the last.
>Gestalt, are our infiltrating forces able to determine the state of the weapons? And can our Genestealers and Lictors act to sabotage vital systems? If we cannot bleed the prey-things, then at least we can deprive them of munitions and food-stuffs.
Attempts were made, all ended in failure. Lictors cannot sabotage prey-constructs without assimilating memory and knowledge of their workings from prey-things cerebral organs, and no isolated casualties were inflicted.
Initial bombardment might be needed for softening before actual combat starts, canned prey seem extremely durable.
Gestalt, ask queen about viability of some kind of aerial strain with the ability of heavy spore or pyro-acid pod dropping.
Query: Status on feeder tubes?
An excellent point. Conceded.
Given the prey's powerful psychic capabilties, this cannot be relied upon.
>But I just detailed the mechanism :P
>Unless you mean it's not gonna be volatile enough
>In which case Okay. :(
In that case, Mawlocs may be used for that purpose when time comes.
We are in the middle of the three way battle, and engaged only minorly on one front thus far. We will not attack reinforcement vessels the instant they appear, should they appear to attack immaterial predators first, but the prey on surface is not likely to be capable of engaging with predators without us leaving the world; something that is unlikely to happen unless the Hive Fleet experiences incredible synaptic feedback and loses both sentience and instincts.
Additionally, Gestalt, would it be possible to use Bio-Plasma for bombardment purposes, or package bio-plasma/pyro-acid into purpose-built tyrannocytes?
Would specialized Tyrannocytes designed to embed themselves into enemy fortifications and begin dismantling them, whilst armed with heavy bio-weaponry, be feasible?
>would like to note however; That 'honour' is only one facet the challenger strain preys on.
its secondary characteristic is appearing -valuable- which will prey on enemy utalitarianism or our enemies eagerness to strike a vital blow against us.
A well-reasoned point.
>Recommend holding off on any action beyond perimeter skirmishing or establishing defensive spore mine positions until towers established or until enemy begins taking aggressive action.
Still require consensus on best vector of spore mine deployment.
>Question: Has there been any change in the deployment or disposition of Warp entities?
Not in the materium. Immaterial Warp entities seem to be probing at the edges of the Shadow and psychic strains are noting an increasing Warp-tension due to our presence.
Would it be possible for the Hive Fleet to create a psychic strain of bio-ship at some point in the future, capable of focusing and utilizing the Warp Shadow as a weapon in a similar manner to Zoanthropes and Maleceptors? Not simply in the psychic scream or terror sense, that is.
Our offspring ships are all mutated with enhanced regeneration correct?
in that case we suggest using a hive ship for spore deployment. we very much doubt that even -if- enemy weaponry remains online, that a down cruiser could accurately track and fire upon a hive ship in orbit, however assuming they can, the chances of inflicting damage that cannot be swiftly regenerated is unlikely, and it will result in maximum spore mine saturation.
>Additionally, Gestalt, would it be possible to use Bio-Plasma for bombardment purposes, or package bio-plasma/pyro-acid into purpose-built tyrannocytes?
Unlikely. Bio-plasma has extremely limited range.
>Would specialized Tyrannocytes designed to embed themselves into enemy fortifications and begin dismantling them, whilst armed with heavy bio-weaponry, be feasible?
More efficient alternative would be to deploy Screamer-Killer strain Carnifexii via Tyrannocyte. They are both capable of bio-plasma attack and dismantling fortifications, more mobile, and already available in moderate number, without requiring extensive genetic manipulation by the Norn Queen.