Which one is your favorite illustration so far /anrg/? Pic related is mine.
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Unlikely, many of these pictures are taken from Deviant Art or the author's website. Artists almost never post their own work in HR, since it's showcasing their work and it's not needed.
I'd like an Android RPG with a roll & keep system.
This is from a card right? I haven't played this in ages.
I really like this one, shame it's attached to a fairly meh card
I was testing out my Apex deck yesterday, friend was playing with New Angeles Sol. The moment he scored a single Improved Tracers, I got locked out of R&D by a single Caduceus, because his current of choice was Surveillance Sweep. Then Flare took out Heartbeat and locked me out of the scoring server. Maybe it was my build, but I found I never had money. That Caduceus stopped me from landing the Apocalypse, but geez it really cemented for me how vulnerable Apex is to traces and program trashing. Given how prevalent both are going to be for now, I'm gonna drop Apex until I figure out a workaround.
Gingerbread, or more universally, an AI breaker.
Cypsis would probably be a good choice, and depending on how influence goes, parasite will always be a potential slot.
David is worth considering, but that is a lot of influence
e3 is a useful thing for Apex too
With a PPVP economy (because it's all neutral) Apex could be seriously strong, and cards like Inside Job and Feint make it much easier to pull of the apocalypse
I really don't like Crypsis here because of how expensive it is. E3 is a big tempo hit.
The awkward thing about PPvP is that once you Apocalypse, all that money is gone. Admittedly it works well with regular breakers, but at that point why even play Apex? I like Inside Job, but 3 influence a piece is hard to swallow.
We all know the greatest art is this playmat, hands down
With Apocalypse you need a plan for after, and you have to be willing to chuck everything to crush the corp.
Something it'd be worth looking to do (or to have the capacity to do) would be to have Apocalypse as set up for a later Prey, or use (1 inf) Independent Thinking to use it to draw all your things.
LARLA is another good follow-up, once you've trashed the flipped cards
Well if not after the Worlds of Android book, then it will be useful in giving more information to help build an RPG
pic related is apparently it, not a card, and was posted with the following description
>"It's less a phoenix in the traditional sense, and more a representation of a certain structure in cyberspace, which bears a likeness to a phoenix on some level
>But Adam has so little room for all that. Influence is really harsh.
Yeah, Sunny has basically anything she wants, Apex is tight, but workable, Adam is like "What the hell, 25 influence with no base rig ?". Really hard to fit all you need.
Man, if there was ever art that didn't fit the card Research Station has to be up there.
Even housekeeping, while ominously inscrutable, is better than that
Everyone's favorite !
Housekeeping works perfectly for me. Research Station just doesn't fit though. Both too literal and too off the mark.
I'm not 100% sure I get Housekeeping.
Is it a morgue, full of the people Weyland "clean up"?
Research Station appears to be just the physical insides of a computer - very boring and literal (to a point), but it feels like the art for a chip, not a facility.
A building or a cyberspace structure would be much better
You pretty much have to rely on your ability to click through subroutines most of the time. Building Adam feels like being given the option of Econ, Breakers, Recursion, Tricks: Pick two.
Multithreader makes me think he wants a single breaker rig, which means Eater Keyhole. Whatcha think?
>Econ, Breakers, Recursion, Tricks: Pick two.
That's about it, yeah, feels very tight.
I've liked Faust with him quite a lot. You get your free draw every turn, you can use Independent Thinking for rushing a big server, allows you to put put several copies of cards you absolutely want to draw yet don't need all copies in play and still put hem to good use.
The issue with me is building something that is "averaged" enough to be able to capitalize on Adam' early game threat yet still be able to play the long game if needed. There's talk of people just going the former and leaving even Multithreader out... which kinda makes sense, but that's a big wager.
I'm loving the idea of some econ pressure long-er game Adam (I've had a lot of fun with Donut Taganes + Lovegood if/when needed) but again, influence wall. You're so tight you can never get all you'd want.
Conversely importing ABR in some Reina decks has been loads of fun.
>Is it a morgue, full of the people Weyland "clean up"?
Accounting for your clean up jobs, yup.
Faust eh? I like Faust, but you want to turn off ABR with it I guess since you don't want to throw away too many cards? My biggest problem with Faust is that there's no synergy with Multithreader. Unless you run Bug, then maybe. What other programs are there that can fully utilise Multithreader? If we run support programs instead, that could be interesting, but apart from Savoir-Faire (antisynergistic here) and Bug (probably best choice), I don't see what can help complement Multithreader. Surfer?
Do Bioroids Have Souls? (45 cards)
Adam: Compulsive Hacker
-- Event (20 cards)
3 Demolition Run
3 Dirty Laundry
1 Employee Strike
3 Independent Thinking
3 Sure Gamble
1 The Maker's Eye
-- Hardware (3 cards)
3 Brain Chip
-- Program (8 cards)
-- Resource (14 cards)
3 Armitage Codebusting
3 Daily Casts
3 Data Folding
2 Dr. Lovegood
2 Earthrise Hotel
1 Public Sympathy
Just threw this together. Honestly not sure what all that money is for. Apart from Mimic, I don't have anything else. I could cut one Demo Run and one Employee Strike for one Multithreader and Study Guide?
What makes you see Savoir Faire as anti-synergistic ? It allows you to turn two credits into an install click, which are at a premium here. The issue is more the influence cost and the fact that you're probably not going to have that many programs to install. If not for the former, I'd certainly give it a chance.
And yeah, we're clearly lacking so far in support programs that could use Multithreader. I guess that's where Deva programs come in ?
I like Bug in there, I really do. People scoff at it, but once you get it in place it really helps making the most of your runs.
If you're going Faust, I think you're going all out early aggression. If not, well, classic Anarch suite + Multithreader can work I guess. Or just use another AI ?
Crypsis, I'd say no because of the clicks. Conversely, Knight would almost be good for me if the click didn't make it awkward on top of ABR. Darwin ? Too costly given you'll need/want support too. Eater ? Means you're also going to import replacement effects. Could work I guess with a Keyhole focused R&D strat and access on HQ. Awkward again. Alpha/Omega ? I'd be almost tempted actually. But seven cost install *and* three influence in that deck ? No. Overmind is the obvious choice. Especially given Brain Chip. But then the big issue is you'd want a breaker that does well for multi-subs, given ABR can clear single ones. For long run decks is it really worth it ?
I really wish Modded was 1 inf like Career Fair. It just fits so nicefor me in Adam. Especially early game.
Sure, Savoir-Faire does help you turn Multithreader credits into install clicks, but what are you installing? I say anti-synergistic because I doubt there are many things you want to install. It's just not worth the slot.
Good point about Deva programs! That's something to look forward to, hopefully they won't be too influence-heavy.
I think Surfer is worth trying out as a barrier breaker substitute. If they try to bring out Wraparound to stop your Faust, you can surf the Wraparound and click through it.
The Faust here is actually for unexpected runs + backup. It gets the Str 4 sentries and barriers I can't click through. Or maybe Study Guide is just a shit idea and I should swap that for a Corroder and a Zu. Classic Anarch suite while nice is too reliant on Datasuckers for my liking here.
I wish I could use Knight. Eater Keyhole is an option, but it's very all-in. Overmind makes sense, though the tempo hit is pretty big and you want to install it before your Multithreaders. Modded at 1 inf is just way too strong, I think. I'd love it tooo though.
I can see why E3 is good, but I never feel like I have enough credits to use it consistently.
Something I hadn't thought about, really dangerous too, but Jak Sinclair in Adam. Aggro overkill.
Basically Jak+ABR breaking, mandatory first click run + Faust/AI of choice...
Can you even use the ABR breaking on a Jak run ? Given your first spent click must be on a run, doesn't that imply you cannot use the ABR break ?
I think this one is still my favorite.
That's not the issue.
>Your first [Click] each turn must be spent to make a run or play a run event.
>Once per turn, you can SPEND [Click] [Click] to break a subroutine on a piece of ice currently being encountered
So, if I haven't yet spent that first click on a run (because Sinclair's effect predates the click expenditure) , am I allowed to *spend* clicks on breaking a subroutine.
If that the same as, say, Wyldside, where you *lose* one click.
With D&D fully out, how much more common is Film Critic + NACH going to be, to avoid the onslaught of tags that's coming?
Is it time to start blowing up buildings?
Have to say, it irritates me that they've done so many illustrations but only a few of them are available in full pictures.
They're good, but why would you only put a small part of your output for a game in your gallery of art from that game?
Moving on, any thoughts on pic related?
Seems interesting, but a bit of a tempo hit to use it effectively
I'm still, trying to understand at what program-cost range I'd want to use this. And then what kind of strat/tempo it would fit.
Given how good runners are at making money these days, I'm not digging this unless there's a runner helium-3 Deposit of sort down the line. At least in a vacuum.
Comparison with Kati:
2 install cost
5 clicks will land you 12 credits. for a net benefit of 10. Pure liquidities, can be used for anything. Pretty straightforward.
1 install cost
Now it gets messy, my guess is that you want to get it between 2-4 counters and then refill it as needed, since as long as you keep high every click is worth the number of counters in program install. At 3-4 that turns it into a four credits per click. with a four click needed starting tax.
I'd say slower decks with numerous expensive/mid-range programs could use that. Technical Writer could make good support ?
Gonna be timing and context sensitive.
I guess Miss Mills makes it a lot easier to trash Chatterjee if it ever becomes too big a nuisance.
Kati is relatively sensitive to a well placed Snatch&Grab.
Tagging + 2 credits will destroy either. If no Wireless Pavilion.
Character Assassination just smash through both.
Any sensible option I'm forgetting ?
Pic related - Licence Acquisition is especially good for it
Thanks, knew I was missing something.
Contract Killer work on Kati too.
Giving it some thought, in the far less likely category we also have: Project Ares, Hellion Alpha Test, Sherlock 1.0, Markus 1.0 and Information Overload I guess.
And Freelancer could change the math too.
Worlds is in less than a week.
What Runner/Corp will be win?
What Runner/Corp will be like NEH last year and literally be half of the crowd?
How fucked up will it be having D&D out for two weeks before the big one?
>What Runner/Corp will be win?
>What Runner/Corp will be like NEH last year and literally be half of the crowd?
Still NEH, but many will try Haarpsichords and SYNC
>How fucked up will it be having D&D out for two weeks before the big one?
Yeah, haven't played a lot with the competitive crowd recently (I'm in full crazy, don't give a fuck deck mode while they're too busy refining things right now) but SYNC does seem like it's been catching some wind to its sail.
Really looking forward to the Worlds of Android art/lore book, pic related
How are you guys finding data and destiny?
Before release i thought my runner choices woulb be Sunny > Adam > Apex
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In all seriousness, apex seems to murder and kill build, and death by a thousand cuts just makes me tons of wasteland money
I've given up on Apex: he can't deal with tracers. I'm working on Adam now, got a couple of builds that seem solid but unfortunately boring. I do like his early game pressure though.
>not being able to handle tracerse
I've won with this deck against NA Sol with Cerebral Static being permanent the entire game.
Why people forgotten about the best Ambush in the game?
Interesting. I'm not sold on Grifters, but I can see how they would be useful in a deck with ABR. I know I'm giving up prematurely, the problem of tracers can be dealt with, but for now I'd like to try out the other factions instead of trying to figure out solutions for Apex first. Get a hang of their strengths and weaknesses, sa sa?
This brings me to an idea I've been toying with, actually. What if each of the D&D runners could play well with the cards of the others? Directives in Apex, Multithreader in Sunny, Endless Hunger or Sunny's breakers in Adam.
Harbinger works well to fuel the card draw of Independent Thinking in Adam decks, without costing you anything useful.
Trash a directive, and a Harbringer, and you get to draw four cards. Plus the Harbringer comes back to use again.
Grifters can possible give you quite some dosh and when you don't need them anymore you can trash them for any Apex effect when they would end up being trashed anyway.
>Directives in Apex, Multithreader in Sunny, Endless Hunger or Sunny's breakers in Adam.
Haven't thought of EH in Adam, sounds funny.
Because there is only 1 copy in the core set.
But I agree with the sextuples, it is a great card because it used to be the only card that could make an ice's subs fire more than just on the first encounter.
Nope I don't see how that would be possible. I think you select which cards get trashed and then you trash them simultaneously. Not like "I trash this card, then this card, and then this again".
I think all deluxe boxes are designed to work by themselves. So you could combo any runner in the box with other minifactions cards. The biggest example of this is how Sunny can't be played without Multithreader due to how expensive those breakers are. Or how Prey makes Adam life easier by trashing ICE you're breaking with ABR.
Nietszche Kim (45 cards)
Edward Kim: Humanity's Hammer
-- Event (9 cards)
3 Career Fair
3 I've Had Worse
3 Sure Gamble
-- Hardware (6 cards)
2 Clone Chip
2 Dorm Computer
-- Program (15 cards)
-- Resource (15 cards)
2 Adjusted Chronotype
3 Daily Casts
2 Kati Jones
3 Liberated Account
2 Neutralize All Threats
To beat the Bioroid, you must think like the Bioroid.
I just wanted to put together an E Kim deck with a directive so I can use that line when I install the directive.
Corporate Troubleshooter always gets the best
Wait a second, does that mean you can't trash the same Harbinger twice with one Prey?
How would it work with damage prevention?
You get scorched, can you trash the same Harbinger twice with Heartbeat?
Obviously if it's a Komainu, you could, but what about a Neural Katana?
>You get scorched, can you trash the same Harbinger twice with Heartbeat?
>Obviously if it's a Komainu, you could, but what about a Neural Katana?
You see, the thing with damage prevention is that it's coming from a paid ability. So you trigger Heartbeat once to prevent 1, then you keep triggering Heartbeat the same way to keep preventing damage.
That's not the case with Prey. Prey says that you have to trash X numbers of cards, and those are trashed simultaneously.
I've been thinking, one of the reasons NEH is so damn good is that its (totally unnecessary) 17 influence lets it splash a 4 inf card much more easily than other NBN IDs
Somebody last thread mentioned that is a big, powerful 4-inf card in each faction:
Biotic Labor, Scorched Earth, Midseason Replacements and Caprice Nisei
So I got thinking about Titan - with its 17 influence, could it do something similar?
I'm thinking Caprice - though Midseasons is good it gets shat on by Film Critic, and while BL might be good for Atlas and the many 1-pointers Weyland has, Caprice is just straight up powerful - making the runner run through Archer again seems like it should be fun, right?
For extra-jank mode I'm thinking "Off the Capricium Grid" - defending a Crisium Grid HQ with Ice and Caprice, to further secure the Off the Grid
That actually rings a bell. I think somebody did that to me at some point. There's too many parts in that combo, so I found the agendas before it got up. But I'm certainly I saw all those cards in the deck.
There's a reason I put it in the extra-jank.
OTCG on its own is difficult and expensive, adding another piece probably wouldn't go well
That applies to everyone not NBN though
I'm really digging Adam, as expected.
It's basically the pace of most of my deck made mandatory (as if I cared), with added bonuses on top.
Pretty fun, and proving to be pretty good too.
Sunny. Good. Very Good. But I don't like her. Just not my style - big rigs aren't my thing.
I've played some mean games against her though, and those I liked.
Apex is loads of fun to play, but I think a bit struggling so far. That being said, when you get the ball rolling it can be soul-crushing for the corp.
I was thinking today that DLR is wrong. It shouldn't be "If you're tagged, DLR gains x ability...", it should be "Click: trash the top, if you do this, get a tag at the end of the turn."
One (edge case) thing I found with Jackson today was that he can be a last minute reprieve against the Globalsec R&D lock - he shuffles R&D, so if you're about to lose you might as well fire him to waste the run
The thing is that Mr. Howard is always good. There's just too much value in one card, and while it may not always be the optimal slot-use (See the original GRNDL Supermodernism for one, in which I think slotting some Anonymous Tip instead was the right call) , it's hardly ever (I'd say never, but let's be circumspect) a *bad* investment.
There's also the issue of how much of a mitigation tool it can be in tournament context - again the old issue of wanting to make the decks as optimized and as randomness-adverse as possible. As a transaction - as an exchange of values, there's no point at which you're not coming on top against the Runner when playing Howard.
In a tournament context, it's understandable why the card would be so ubiquitous.
So while I'll be the first to say that, no you don't *need* Howard in every deck, far from it, it's understandable why so many people would think so.
No, think about the time when dlr came out a tag wass dangerous if you did not have a fridge on. Plus if tagged allows dlr to be trashed.
It also has the requirement of needing a run to install.
>No, think about the time when dlr came out a tag wass dangerous
The way you're saying this, you'd think being tagged is something that can be scoffed at right now.
And personally, the thing that I think has changed is that's it's never been easier to self-tag.
Before, when the only when Masanori was your go to tool for self tagging, the DLR using deck had to be interactive.
Now with Wireless Pavilion and Paparazzi, you can make an equivalent version that is basically as non-interactive as it gets.
Which fits some play-styles a lot more.
The requirement to install is a given of course, but I'd argue about the tag.
Tags has always been dangerous, but Joshua B. has been there too with this mechanic.
What I'm aiming to say with this is that there's no risk for the runner to keep overusing DLR, if he's tagged he can say "4 clicks, trash 4 cards", and then after you trash DLR he just "pay 2, remove tag". Why? There's no sense of relevance for the runner to trash 1 or 20 cards. No risk.
If the runner were to be tagged for each time he uses it instead, it would either cost him a lot with NACH, or pile tags on top until he can't remove them anymore. And it makes sense thematically. What it doesn't make sense is that you need to be tagged BEFORE you start using DLR.
But I think the whole point of the card was to put the corp between a rock and a hard place in econ denial decks.
That is, the corp had to make a choice of what it was going to trash first - say that Activist Support before it lands its Bad pub, or DLR before it burns your R&D down. All the while doing so also meant not being to get back in threat range.
>What it doesn't make sense is that you need to be tagged BEFORE you start using DLR.
You know that it's the tag that's being used to connect to the corp and trash shit, thematically?
>"A two-way solution to a one-way problem, the data leak reversal, or DLR for short, is a misnomer. There is no actual reversal of data, only the creation of a parallel peer-to-peer link with the initial source."
It makes perfect sense. Mechanically it's a bit harsh, at least these days, but it at least makes sense
Apex Bioroid (45 cards)
Adam: Compulsive Hacker
-- Event (9 cards)
3 Dirty Laundry
3 Independent Thinking
3 Sure Gamble
-- Hardware (9 cards)
3 Brain Chip
3 Dorm Computer
3 Q-Coherence Chip
-- Program (15 cards)
3 Endless Hunger
-- Resource (12 cards)
1 Aesop's Pawnshop
2 Always Be Running
2 Daily Casts
2 Dr. Lovegood
1 Hunting Grounds
2 Neutralize All Threats
2 Safety First
Am I a Bioroid? Am I the Apex? Am I a Bioroid? Am I the Apex? Splatoon: Always Be Running Edition.
Amusingly, been going at it the other angle: being 0 virtual resources that deal with two of Apex's most wanted effects (draw and non-ETR subroutines all in one solution) makes ABR and Safety First invaluable for our favorite bulimic AI, I find.
Nah, generally don't post my lits. They're not worth it.
I think ABR + Endless Hunger + E3 makes for an incredible rig. Not the least of it because Wasteland by itself can be enough to sustain it econ-wise.
Safety First could more than probably be replaced by events advantageously, but I like the fact this can work as a long run rig.
If you're not planning on going crazy with Apocalypse I think it fits. If you do ? Probably not. Not too keen on Apoc myself. I can't see myself wanting to play it more than once per game at most really.
Wasteland, huh? I don't really like Wasteland so far, seems like it takes too much work too pay off but it does go well with E3. How do you handle, say, Architect? Are you running any multiaccess?
>How do you handle, say, Architect?
>Are you running any multi-access?
Depends on the event selection. I've allocated 8 Influence points on those, and generally try to squeeze some Maker's Eye and/or Legwork.
Main problem for me is I still don't know what strategy I'm really going for with Apex, so I'm still just throwing cards around and trying to see what works for it and me.
DDOS does look like it could be brutal. Should probably try that next.
Jackson is like putting 3 additional cards into your deck.
If his text was nothing but "shuffle each copy of hedge fund in your archives into your R&D" it would still be good.
But he does even more things than just that.
Off the top of my head I don't think there's any card that lets you do that.
The only thing I can think of that could potentially let you do it is this, but it specifically states you can't.
You probably want to go with one of the big boxes. If you already have a preferred faction, go for that one's.
C&C has some staples of most decks ever since released (Clone Chip, Self Modifying Code, Same Old Thing, Levy AR Lab Access) and basically completely changed the Shaper faction as it was previously played.
H&P is probably the one that served its runner faction the least, but still it has some pretty decent cards, and if you like the Ctim faction, I'd say it's well worth getting to expand your options.
O&C is all around great for Anarch and introduces great cards for the faction, ell needed econ and draw options as well as some cool toys (Wanton Destruction, Vigil, Eater and the cutlery suite, I've had worse, Amped Up...) if you like Anarchs, you can't possibly go wrong..
Is it a good game to play casually?
How much do I get out of the starter pack if I share it with another person? Can we create some playable decks with one starter?
If not, are there any games that let us do these things? Maybe Warhammer 40k: Conquest?
Long time Magic player here wanting to try something that doesn't require me to sell my kidney to make two playable decks.
>to make two playable decks
This is one thing that doesn't happen in netrunner.
If you make one deck then there's many, many other decks you can also make with the cardpool that you'd need to build the first one
This can result in "one" deck being very expensive, if it uses cards from a lot of packs, but you also have a huge selection of cards to make any number of other decks as well - a lot of good decks use the same good cards, as well.
Getting the full cardpool is a bit pricey though
Core is $40, but I've seen it as low as 20. You can make two decks to play against each other. It has a lot of replayability. Since you come from Magic I can tell you this box has the equivalent of 7 duel decks with their own flavour and style. Deckbuilding further increase the decks you can make.
You can find a videotutorial up in the OP.
The core, on its own is pretty great - it's self-contained in a way that no other pack is, which is the justification for it also being the only pack where there's not 3 of every card (it has a few 2-ofs and 1-ofs, of some very powerful cards)
Yeah, we already got the NAPD. Let's get cracken.
Last year Christian Petersen (the CEO of FFG) wrote a personal check for $1k to the world champ of X-Wing.
There was a huge blow out about it in the Netrunner fanbase around that time since Netrunner got shit on at Worlds and X-Wing took 90% of the space for the entire weekend.
Somebody asked me about AutocardAnywhere (chrome extension) to hover over the card names and see what card is mentioned, so while we wait for Mumbad spoilers I'll post what I did.
1. Install AutocardAnywhere from the extensions store.
2. Go to Card Sets tab. Enable the Netrunner - English.
3. Click Settings next to Netrunner.
4. Link target: Netrunner DB.
5. Unmark Dictionary Words.
6. Next step is the Nicknames tab. We use a lot of nicknames, so I add them as I need them. I exported my list. I'll add it at the end of the post. You just need to copy the list and paste it in the Import List button.
7. The Sites tab. I have it set up "Disabled by default (whitelist)" with the following sites in the box to enable those sites.
Nicknames list, just copy and paste it:
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No. X-Wing is just the game that Christian plays personally and it is his pet. That is the main reason it always gets the biggest space for all it's events.
This thread this time last year.
God damnit, just bought the core set like 2 weeks ago and my friends already don't want to play with me anymore.
Do you guys let them win?
I haven't been beaten since the first day I bought this game, but only because my shit friends didn't put any effort into their decks. I've played with one of them on jinteki.net, before that we agreed that there'll be no netdecking involved. After the 3rd loss he got so butthurt that he netdecked some worlds winner faust wombo combo deck, but of course he couldn't pilot it well and got wrecked by my shitty deck, which I atleast knew how it worked.
Then he proceeded to complain that I've already put too many hours into the game because I'm obsessive and he's never going to be able to beat me.
I know it's just losers whining, but I have no one left to play with. He went back to playing that shitty rngfest called Hearthstone. I mean it's an okay game to play at the toilet, but it's not really a competetive card game.
If I want to play at my local shop I'd have to buy a shitton of data packs to be competetive...
I see that no one will play it with me and buy data packs in unison so we can have fun. They complain that there are too many cards to read. I should just probably sell it and get something more casual, which I won't enjoy...
>before that we agreed that there'll be no netdecking involved.
There you have your problem. New player's decks suck. Instead you should have linked him to easy to use preconstructed stuff. Like any NBN fast advance or Andromeda decks.
Buy a shitton of data packs and be competitive at your local shop.
Answering your question, no, I don't let them win. I do make high risk plays though.
If you're sticking with the core cards you shouldn't have these kind of problems, since all core decks are flawed. It's likely that your friends are just pussies. Hell, Hearthstone is more intensive than playing casual netrunner with a core set. All those meta combos, rares, and stupid balance patchs makes it impossible to play hearthstone casually and win.
God I love Wormhole - a strength 7 ETR code gate is fantastic, but being able to fire ANY sub is amazing - as the poor bastard who'd put everything on Scheherazade found out when Negotiator via Wormhole blew it up
I told him that we should netdeck, because at least we will learn which are the best cards and what's used usually, but he told me it'd ruin the "fun". He wanted that we both build shitty decks with limited knowledge, but basicly got butthurt when I invested more time into reading the cards and being better at determining which ones are good.
I really should have just let him win a few games, but I hate to do that, because it feels bad for both sides I thought...
Lot of the games were really close, so I didn't want to let him win. Like 6 - 7 points or 5 - 7 points most of the time, with a lot of shouting of "HEARTH OF CARDS" then running last click against Jinteki R&D, but I always got retarded lucky.
I guess it's tough, not winning games for little less than 2 weeks.
Core Set got kind of boring after figuring out that Anarch has the best breaker suite that you can splash for basicly free and that HB ETF is the best identity and basicly only HB has good econ.
That's why we went to jinteki.net.
I love the game, but I'm not sure I want to invest a lot of money in data packs, since I'm not that outgoing, when it comes to stuff like this.
The faggot played Hearthstone every day since the closed beta and has every card. I guess he just doesn't want to learn a new game or he doesn't like the fact that the playing field is level and if he doesn't put effort into it he loses.
Fuck it, I'll just go check out the community at the shop, but we only have like 5-6 regular players and it's an hour from here.
EtF and anarch breakers are the best, yeah. But it doesn't mean you can't jank with the other factions. Netrunner gets really fun the more ludicrous your wins are. If you just reduce the game to most economy/bigger ICE vs best breakers the game breaks apart pretty fast.
Yeah, but there's always things you can do to mitigate raw econ ending everything.
A runner with multiaccess on R&D, for example, is vulnerable to traps (I killed a guy with a double snare earlier today)
my flgs has one summer kit left and we're playing for it this saturday, should i play reina, an overmind/deep red kim deck, or a ken tenma comet deck?
idk which one to choose because they all
are very fun
Yep another year of fuck you to the ANR community at our only big event.
Game of Thrones has it's entire own event (Week of Ice and Fire or whatever), Call of Cthulhu has it's own event, Star Wars has it's own weekend, etc. Android gets shit on constantly by FFG's event and the community is more or less told to fuck off.
They don't even follow their own rules and have a tiny as fuck cut so the world championship is almost entirely meaningless. It mostly comes down to RNG in the swiss rounds.
But hey X-Wing gets the entire main space the entire weekend of their shit!
>completely wreck a Reina running Caissa
>tour guides, spiderwebs, the like
>score up to 7, win, full board
>turns out he's running apocalypse
>BMs me by playing apoc and leaving the game
>game bugs out and I have to 'accept' agenda victory for every card trashed, can't close octgn window
Yeah with Apocalypse out now I think I will be the card that people use to
"To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."
Unsure, but I think Hostile doesn't trigger off Apocalypse except itself once. Simultaneous effects are decided by its owner, and Apex would trash the infrastructure first.
In terms of real play that is. I'm sure jinteki.net and octgn would have an aneurism.
Not 100% sure, but all the trashing happens simultaneously, I don't think the runner gets to choose which cards are trashed first.
The same thing would happen if you Singularity a server with hostile inf and some upgrades. I think you'd get net damage for all the trashed cards.
Do you know for sure if you take the damage in the Singularity example?
Because accessing Archives is simultaneous, yet you pick 1 card at a time.
Shipment from Mirrormorph is simultaneous, yet you install one card at a time and this can affect install costs.
Freelancer on a Fall Guy + Resource results in the Resource staying alive, because the simultaneous Freelancer is preventable by the Fall Guy and it is not possible to target the same thing twice. The Freelancer example is from twitter.
The just rolled out the Overclocked packs and the first pack of Mumbad.
Expect pictures soon.
Also there are rumors about there being some big announcement during something called "In Flight" coming up Friday.
Given everything that's been said today I'm not buying this until we see pics.
So get taking photos anon
That is when they are going to reveal the new female focused oganized play stuff with Leigh Alexander from Shut up and Sit down.
I read it is things like "Girls Nights" kits that have special promos for female only gaming nights and shit like that. A big focus on creating "Safe Spaces" and shit like that.
I am not joking. Her and Quinns are really there to talk about FFG's new plan for things like that.
They did a few pilot stores for the girls night kits so we know it is a real thing.
Normal game night kits will be open like they have always been. One of those "We don't need extra things to bring more men into the hobby" bullshit things.
I'd not be shocked if they did a colored people only kit as well. Hell just say fucked and exclude White Males from events.
Nothing short of expected from The Caliphate of Great Kektain.
Most of this shit we're seeing is from UK Netrunner.
Meanwhile the nationalist right parties are amassing 25%+ votes in Euroland.
I know the big thing about the UK community on Stimhack was a driving force for FFG to enact plans to save the community.
As soon as they drive all those gamers out of gaming they will be able to bask in the glory of a tiny SJW market share.
I personaly do not see a problem with female exclusive events every so often but what i do have a problem with is them recieving exclusive promos.
MY girlfriend ran a girls netrunner night a few months ago with a showing of about 12 people. I think it was grand idea as it encouraged people to join. She then also encouraged people to come and play on the regular nights as well.
>The Freelancer example is from twitter.
More commonly known as the Project Ares + Sacrificial Construct. It's in the FAQ.
But yeah, I'm having trouble finding proof for this example. I swear I read about it when HI was released. But where?
Nope - even absent any other cards to trash Endless Hunger can trash itself to break the ETR
Subs resolve in the order they're printed, but they don't have to be broken in that order
Encountering ICE is divided in 3 phases.
1. On encounter abilities trigger. This is stuff like Tollbooth, Data Raven, and Femme Fatale.
2. Breaking subroutines. You can break none, some, or all subroutines.
3. Subroutines not broken resolve in the order they're printed.
It's just different. It's worse against low power runs, but better against high-power runs (Maker's Eye, Legwork, Account Siphon, Vamp) because the runner can't just brute force it with money. Put something that's even mildly taxing in front of it and almost no runner will ever try to get through it by playing the psi-game.
All that it's true, and all that would hold better if Wall of Static didn't beat it to the punch. 1 to rez, and at least another for the PSI. Increasing its cost every time. It should have been strength 4-5.
For me it would be either this or Self modifying code.
What else could you expect from Britbongs?
But anon, we're already frothing.
So this means no spoilers? Typographical errors are heinous, but I'm not familiar with drafts so I'm not sure what else is going on here.
Gamergate has attacked The Worlds Championship! Some neckbeards dressed in whizzard cosplay are holding the event center hostage and are planing to be head Alexander and Quinns.
At this rate we are never going to get new spoilers...
It's great in some decks. I know I've really liked it in IG for one.
"You want to trash that snare! ? Are you sure you want to take another damage on top ? Not to mention he cost."
I want to believe that playing CyDi just for the edge of reduced options is worth it, maybe some rush or fast advance. But every iteration of my decks were met with agenda flood and low econ.
I must say these have been some of the shortest yet most tense games I've had in a long while.
I'm playing a burst Adam tailored for high risk short games, he's playing a CyDi with Mandatory Upgrades, Mushin no Shin and Media Blitz. And it's been brutal on and for both side.
We're going to swap decks now, just to see.
Demo Derby (45 cards)
Adam: Compulsive Hacker
-- Event (13 cards)
3 Demolition Run
3 Dirty Laundry
3 Sure Gamble
-- Hardware (4 cards)
3 Brain Chip
1 Plascrete Carapace
-- Program (11 cards)
2 GS Shrike M2
2 ZU.13 Key Master
-- Resource (17 cards)
3 Armitage Codebusting
3 Daily Casts
3 Dr. Lovegood
3 Earthrise Hotel
2 Kati Jones
2 Public Sympathy
1 Utopia Shard
My refined Adam list. The early aggression is great, though an early Yagura is superbly irritating. I cut Maker's Eye for a Medium, it places pressure just by being around. As before, not having recursion sucks but I'd rather not cut the Utopia and Bug for a Plascrete and a Clone Chip. Maybe that's the better option, it's definitely a route I might go if I'm truly too vulnerable to kill decks. The breaker suite is solid, I think.
I always try to include a single Showing Off when I play Medium. If I can dig for 5 cards from the bottom almost always I can find at least 1 agenda. It's great to avoid the old "All agendas at the bottom" situation.
I like Bug, do you find multithreader essential for it? I'm using MO for it but it's MU heavy (Box-E helps though)
I love a single Showing Off when I play Anarch. Pretty decent slot if you run Medium, I agree.
A bit too rich for Adam's blood though.
>I like Bug, do you find multithreader essential for it? I'm using MO for it but it's MU heavy (Box-E helps though)
I like it too when I can get it going. Can really help maximizing efficiency of your runs.
When you compare with GlobalSec Security Clearance* - out of Sunny at least - I think its overall cost with MO isn't unfair/unbalanced. Still too expensive in high table tournament context I guess, because the deck lists are generally so well known you can approximate cards well enough on your own.
But for games with decks that are a bit more out there ? Or when your own build is *very* timing sensitive ? Can be pretty nice I find. Against my own better judgment.
*: just hit me"Global Security Security Clearance".
Ken "Express" Tenma: Disappeared Clone
3x Account Siphon
2x Career Fair
3x Dirty Laundry
2x Drive By
3x Emergency Shutdown
2x Forged Activation Orders
3x Inside Job
2x Lawyer Up
1x Levy AR Lab Access •••
3x Special Order
3x Sure Gamble
2x Comet ••••
2x Prepaid VoicePAD
2x Public Terminal
2x Always Be Running ••••• •
3x Daily Casts
3x Earthrise Hotel
1x Same Old Thing
1x Corroder ••
1x Femme Fatale
1x ZU.13 Key Master ••
17 influence spent (max 17)
49 cards (min 45)
Cards up to Data and Destiny
Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.
any advice for this deck? so far it's been pretty decent, and a hell of a lot of fun to play
I just tried it against a random NEH Team Sponsorship deck on jinteki.net.
Got to 6 points, but spent way too many clicks drawing, especially after an archer killed corroder + zule.
I like the Always Be Running, but I'm not sure if the deck has enough run events really.
The card draw seems really expensive and reliant on combos. I think I'd rather just have John Masanori, maybe with security testing, too.
Being locked out of HQ really hurts this deck a lot. Maybe reduce the amount of Emergency Shutdowns or try a sneakdoor. Or a 1 off Feint?
I'm also not extremely sure what to think of Comet in Ken.
I like the idea, but isn't Comet kinda antisynergetic with Ken? He only wants to play 1 run event per turn or he isn't using his ability efficiently. You could argue that the second event you play might not be a run event, but then again why don't you have more run events in your deck? Might as well play Gabe then.
Also doesn't Doppelgänger do basically the same, but with a little more synergy and way less influence?
As a rule of thumb: the more event-focused your deck is, the more draw power you'll need, as doing anything demands that you actually get those events in your grip.
Professional Contacts in those kind of decks can be great value, but at 5 a pop is a real tempo killer (not to mention the influence), which is why so many people favors the influence-less approximate, Symmetrical Visage, with Earthrise Hotel for steady draw and/or Quality Time for burst. Depending on the tempo and econ.
Unless I'm mistaken, "only" 11 run events in your deck which is kinda surprising (don't think I ever ran less than 14 myself in Tenma). Might just be me though.
ABR, given its click cost seems like a weird choice for Tenma as far as I'm concerned. Do tell us how you find it works for you. Should be interesting. I understand that you're trying to get some click compression via Comet to compensate, but it feels like an ill fit for his once per turn ability.
the intention behind comet in ken was to use one run event and one non run event, it just gives you some neat little combos and over the course of the game becomes a lot of click compression every turn. things like siphon + emergency shutdown, or special order + dirty laundry in one click are really strong. i feel like doppleganger isnt as good because with the deck im trying to focus specifically around events making single runs more efficient, i.e. legwork, rather than just flat out making more runs.
however, i do agree that the deck is a little light on run events for a ken deck, it's also light on multi access so im thinking of just adding a couple of makers eyes
yeah ive noticed quite a bit that im able to get a lot of early accesses but the deck really slows down and i have to click to draw way more than id like. i think i need to add a couple more cards for draw power, right now im either thinking drug dealer or masanori, then cut from 49 to 45 because seeing one of the two ABRs early is actually fairly important. i would like fisks seminar but thats off the table because of ABR.
speaking of ABR, i understand that the click cost seems weird, but in practice, being able to use clicks to get in anywhere before you have breakers out is great. ABR can ensure that things like siphon hit in the early game, and the requirement of running or playing a run event first click isnt really a drawback because its what youd be doing anyway
>the intention behind comet in ken was to use one run event and one non run event
Yeah that's what I thought. It just feels a little too combo-y. Maybe it would be better in Andromeda? But then you have no influence for ABR.
Armitage and Kati is actually pretty good. Apart from Cacheshop, this is the only other economy package I feel safe with in Adam, and I prefer this since it's influence-free. In the early game, I try to be pure aggression. Start up with a click one Demo Run, click through ice if possible, hit two cards out of HQ. But when that phase is over, once I can't click through or I'm facing NBN or they Celebrity Gifted and there's nothing in there, I start using ABR runs to go trash assets. I don't mind being forced to trash assets, most of the time, and Armitage is a great way to get your money back. Kati is your mid to late econ engine. Lovegood is usually used to blank ABR in that setup phase, which means I can devote more resources to draw, econ and installing.
To be honest, I haven't managed to use Bug yet. It's my option against glacier, but I could easily cut it and Utopia for a Special Order and a Plascrete. That might be a better move in the current meta.
Hm, this is kinda a big deal for Adam. I wonder if this is true.
Masanori triggers at point 6 of a run.
>The run ends and is considered to be UNSUCCESSFUL.
That probably means his trigger is akin to "at the end of the run".
Lovegood blanks cards for the "remainder of your turn" and safety first triggers at "the end of your turn".
It would definitely be weird if they'd rule it one way in the one case and the other way in the other.
It would unblank at the same time it will trigger. Will it trigger or not?
I guess it's the same thing as the "daily casts on the supplier" case, but it's still a little different because daily casts was inactive when the trigger happens and missed the window because of that. Safety First on the other hand was active the whole time, the text was just blank. Does it miss the window anyway? I dunno.
All rules are made up.
It might look like there's text on the card because you're a silly human, but in reality the card is blank and has no abilities while it's Lovegood'd. Abilities that do not exist cannot be triggered.
Unless you think there's some transcendental force that edicts them, yes, they're all made up.
That's how games are made. You make up rules.
I think the word you were looking for was "inconsistent'.
Apex is going to make it to the cut at Worlds.
Calling it now.
He is a hard counter to so many of the current meta decks.
It won't win since he does not have that great a counter to FA decks but he will do well.
Yep, if you see "hacking" in the background of a scene there's a good chance it's that toaster code
Been experimenting with different corp econ sources recently, and I'm not sure which one to use - I'm currently wavering between Private Contracts (with 5 to trash being a fair econ swing even when I lose it) and Shell Corporation, which is okay, but losing the money you've worked for with an unexpected access sucks (though it's fun to stick on a trap)
I've actually not tried the old standby of PAD campaign in my deck, but I think it'd need protecting more than Private Contracts - and if I was protecting my econ source then pic related might be worth considering.
On the other hand clicks can often be an issue for me, so clickless cards like the Campaigns (PAD, Launch, Adonis and Eve) might be a good choice, but they all need protection (and the latter two cost influence)
24/7 kill decks can still score out via FA, you know. Also, at the end of the day Apex still only has a limited number of cards to trash. He's vulnerable post Apoc too.
On that note, what decks would you include if you were trying to make a gauntlet list of T1 decks to test against? Prepaid Kate, Faust Noise, NEH Fastrobiotics, Sync 24/7, HB FA?
Would need more slots, I think, and it has to be protected too - I'm feeling really tight for everything, though that might be because I've got a couple too many operations.
I mean, I could go over 49, get more options, but it seems like it'll just lead to bad times (poor starting hands, deep digs, consistency) being worse
Well if you are going with burst econ Why not stick with Building a Better World.
If you are going with drip econ then Worlds plaza plus drip econ like adonis and Pad are great in Weyland.
If you want drip econ why not try Spark Agency as well with tons of ads going side ways.
>Well if you are going with burst econ Why not stick with Building a Better World.
Because I'm insane and using BWBI for those sweet free advancements
WP + drip econ seems like it's just too tempting a target
I'll have to actually keep count to know if I'm even breaking even on wins, but I'm pretty sure most of them are kills
Ah, fuck's sake.
All the bait in this thread, and that's what I get caught by?
Gagarin Deep Space: Expanding the Horizon
1x Hades Fragment
1x High-Risk Investment
3x Hollywood Renovation
1x Project Atlas
1x Utopia Fragment
1x Blacklist •
1x Constellation Protocol
1x Corporate Town
1x Daily Business Show •
3x Executive Boot Camp
3x Jackson Howard •••
1x PAD Campaign
3x Public Support
1x Team Sponsorship •
3x Tech Startup
3x Turtlebacks •••
1x Ash 2X3ZB9CY ••
2x Diversified Portfolio
2x Asteroid Belt
1x Ice Wall
Code Gate (2)
2x Architect ••••
3x Tour Guide
15 influence spent (max 15)
20 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
49 cards (min 45)
Cards up to The Universe of Tomorrow
Deck built on http://netrunnerdb.com.
thoughts on my revised gagarin space ice deck? i absolutely love the space ice and theme and the deck is pretty fun to play too. so far it's been very consistent in getting 3x turtlebacks out very quickly for solid econ, i rarely even have to protect them because very few runners even go for them at a click + 5 credits apiece to trash, but for the few that will (whizzard) i was thinking of adding in maybe some encryption protocols/hostile infrastructures that i can tutor for with boot camp and tech startup to help further protect my assets
for agendas, renovations is really good, you can have a 2-3 deep space ice server and IAA-ing a renovations is just so much tempo. i might the shards and high risk investment with global food initiative when i pick up D&D today because the effects of those agendas are rarely relevant in my games, but idk if GFI will be relevant either
im still not totally happy with the ice setup in the deck however, but im not sure what to change around. i already cut back the number of space ice to get more early game ice to keep centrals safe, spiderwebs and tour guides are helpful early on but are fairly vulnerable to parasite
Daniel Cook Hardwired is here. We get to run the first draft for free! Incoming spoilers.
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Daniel Cook 1 hr. They are printing the cards for us. smile emoticon
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Peter McOwen That seems a bit unbelievable but awesome if true! Thanks for letting us know and don't be stingy with spoilers!
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Daniel Cook I wont. It took some bring mad, but it happened!
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Adam Perry are you serious
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Daniel Cook Dead serious
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Alan Smithe So that is a no on the spoilers right. This seems like a sham.
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Adam Perry i don't know daniel cook, i cannot vouch for the bwoy, but i think spitefully joking about spoilers in the midst of people being pissed off about the icebreaker tournament would be maybe uncharacteristic? i mean, we'll know soon anyway
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Daniel Cook .maybe I mispoke
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Daniel Cook I will post spoilers
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Daniel Cook He said don't be stingy, and I said I wont
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Heh, I'm sure it's fake, but that sounds like a genuine twitter conversation, nice.
There are no details. There's been a persistent rumor that FFG wanted to make Vampire: The Eternal Struggle into an LCG, and a running gag on 4chan is that it's happening. In actuality, the VtES rights were sold to the folks who have been making fan cards for the game, so it's impossible for this to ever happen.
Well it's true that that is probably FFG Insider, but he's right anyway.
Richard Garfield said here that there were gonna be more LCGs coming, but then later FFG had problems with the publisher or whatever and stopped the project.
Well bugger me sideways, it's really happening.
Paper Wall is better in a gear check deck that wants to get rid of early ICE after they are breakable.
But then you can always trash on install whenever you want, so I don't really see your point. You can trash Vanilla whenever it's no more needed without incurring additional cost.
Now draft format only cards till more get posted.
Stop, we need a new thread, want to do the honors?