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GUYS I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE BUT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I WANT TO DO! I started with a sort of kinda Edric build with unblockable creatures and making them large but... I don't know what to do. Quality Simic creatures and CHoof em? Hmmm
I don't think the BW enchantress support is that bad personally.
But Daxos is pretty fucking shit. Maybe the hardest of the cycle to get counters on with a pretty negligible payoff.
Since the face commanders are coming with new cards featuring their relevant mechanics, what are the odds Daxos might give us a constellation card that's actually playable?
Theros did everything wrong. Fuck Theros.
they're the same cards
play every small flyer
ezuri just trades card advantage for damage
if your local meta is quite controlling and fond of wrathing the board, go with edric
else go with ezuri
Theros had amazing flavor, bretty gud art, but such shit mechanics (as in overcosted, rare, or useless depending on which one). Plus the whole ENCHANTMENTS ARE AMAZING thing then ended up... not having many enchantments that were good
Have people not noticed that he triggers with token creatures as well?
You will be able to make some gigantic creatures with this. This is the agressive U/G commander I've been wanting, too bad about the degenerate sage of hours shit that everyone will do.
Man, i was really hoping R/W would get something cool. I might force R/W anyways, to be completely honest.
I think the only thing i got out of this set was cool toys for shattergang and I might build G/U snake tribal
Theros' "flavor" was an uninspired copy/paste of pop-culture Greek mythology. The most interesting parts of the whole thing were the Returned, Phenax, Kruphix and the leonin civilization, because these were the only things that were original.
And here's one of the amazing responses after Woo's stream. Sorry that this is unrelated but it's just such a weird situation.
Devotion was okay, they fucked up Constellation entirely by introducing it too late and on too few cards, Tribute was garbage, Monstrous was okay, Bestow was fine, Heroic spawned a Standard deck, and Inspired had no impact. So mechanically it was pretty shit.
Disappointing that R&D was so scared of fucking up again like they did with Artifact Lands that we never got even a single Enchantment Land.
Yeah, but counters were a green thing before blue came into the picture. It's just not as satisfying for me to have a GU creature that only deals in counters and not some other ability that's just "more blue." but I was never a big fan of simic anyway.
What I got from that response:
>jews are not the analyzers people make them out to be
>Woo poisoned his mind by reading a book and entertaining ideas of the other side's story
>don't do heroin
>pretty negligible payoff
paying 3 mana to shit out X/X tokens that get stronger with the amount of enchantments you play doesn't seem "negligible" to me. He's like Luminarch Ascension, except that you can play constantly and that gets better throughout the game.
It's actually hilarious how bad it is.
10/10 imagination there Wizards. I can't wait for flavor text referencing the "Theroddyssey" in the return block.
I'm not bitching about blue. When I say the spell "Seems fine to me!" I mean it seems like it's worth playing and I'm glad it's being printed, and it's definitely a cool new card blue is getting.
I also like Mirror match and the Flash Cat.
Chances are full spoilers are up on Friday. We did have them quite late this year.
Though I wouldn't mind if they take longer, gives me time to charge my mkm account so that I can preorder stuff before prices spike.
As a guy who does not enjoy playing blue apart from cheating out krakens, I can tell you that flash cat is sick as fuck. Easily one of my favorite cards in the set. Think it'll be in Mizzix or Ezuri?
Wouldn't each copy see each other come into play? Getting 4 kalastria healer via rally the anchestors has 4 triggers on each of 4 creatures and drains for 16.
So in four player commander, you get 2 etb triggers on 3 creatures, at five 3 etb triggers on 3 creatures, etc.
It's uncommon so it'll be in both.
Doesn't work on uncounterable spells. This one costs less U and works on uncounterable spells, so it's still different and worth printing.
The clones dont see themselves, and/or there is not a clone created for the original player you are attacking.
There are only 2 clones created in a 4 player game, which each get 2 triggers.
shit forgot to take off my trip,
yeah, a guy on ebay has listed some cards (mostly reprints) from C15.
Though they haven't been spoiled anywhere else...
Trying to find out if he knows anymore
2 or less power ETB.
Don't forget Blighted Agent and Looter il-Kor!
Avenger of Zendikar/Craterhoof top end.
I was actually looking forward to RW the most, but compared to the other decks it's just really dissappointing so far.
I mean fuck beaters, I run Mardu tokens. I get more damage and power by just shitting out creatures with Gisa/Cathar's Crusade/Purphoros/Brutal Horderchief out.
>Not using a re-cut oversized Gisela for cheap play in your playgroup
Red and White only really overlap with combat mechanics. Beyond that they have some overlap with destroying artifacts and caring about equipment, but nothing really cohesive enough
I'm getting a little annoyed by all those expensive combat tricks. They're basically forcing you to play either combo or something like Ezuri/Edric Infect with a bunch of unblockable creatures and card advantage.
Snake guy will be better then new Ezuri for Infect.
Besides we already have Aetherize, what else could they do at 4 mana?
At least this is funny when you trade everything and get a ton of etb triggers.
Equipment deck would have been nice, or some "Army" theme.
Would have loved if we had gotten some caring for your comrades stuff. Stuff like Spellskite for spells that target another creature you control, retaliating for one of your creature dying, that sort of stuff.
And obviously Bushido. It's god damn time that they make a new keyword for it.
Why is it rare? Command tower is common, so why make it rare if it's only available from the new decks.
"Oh wow guys, it's rare, that means you might not pull it in your new commander decks! :^OOOOO"
>not a white thing
there are some artifacts mixed in, but it is mostly white.
The Idea of B/W enchantments has always been great. Problem is Daxos himself is weak. Sure you can keep with his theme but compared to the other commanders, he's really really bad. Like it's heartbreaking how piss poor he is.
Tribal anthems are kinda in every colour. Even in artifacts with obelisk of urd and adaptive automaton.
I really liked the idea of RW angels when I was new to the game. Then I saw the cards and they were just kinda lame.
yeah i know if only you could shit out armies of creature tokens that gain permanent power every time you play an enchantment for slightly less mana he'd be not "total shit"
seriously the card is fine, quit being such a baby
Daxos is in excellent pillowfort colors combined any number of creature protections that B/W offers, one would think you would build up a fort before or after bringing him out and then shit out tokens.
That's just me though
Cause he needs to be on the flied for 4 different enchantments being cast, and then you need 3 mana per creature.
all of this without him being removed. Or your spending a fuck ton of mana.
Too much mana for too small of an ability.
It's not like B/W is the best pillowfort strategy out there or anything.
Luminarch Ascension isn't exactly hard to remove or stall either, and the payoff with him is much much greater since the tokens are stronger AND enchantments (meaning they trigger things like Sigil of the Empty Throne or Constellation cards).
>not that common
I've got decked builder up right now and there are about 25 cards that are not strictly goblins.
Look mate, red has anthem effects, powerful ones at that. All right.
So, in non-spoiler news, what's the sekret tek for Daghatar?
I know I should be using Anafenza instead, but I'm too stingy to buy her now. I'll wait for Tarkir to rotate out so I can pick up her promo version cheaper.
It's not. You're thinking of W/U/B
3 mana for a 1/1 or stronger creature without flying.
Or 2 mana for a 4/4 with flying.
Hmm, I wonder which one is stronger.
Worse yet is Black ramp only makes more black mana, and you need both white and black for this.
Yeah, its almost as if you want a land that makes loads of white mana in your enchantment deck....
I like him, but he is pretty fucking slow going.
Beat playing more generic Teysa and "ebin ghost jews XD" shit like a nigger though.
True. And I agree with you. My issue is that he as a commander doesn't measure up to the other options.
The other commanders offer much more, much quicker and that's the big problem.
Given enough time then yeah he'll do alright, but we don't have the time.
Again Lord effects.
>Yeah, its almost as if you want a land that makes loads of white mana in your enchantment deck
Man if they print Seras Sanctum in the deck I might reconsider, but that's about it.
Daxos and Sigil of the Empty Throne trigger off casting not entering the battlefield so nope it's not that hot.
They will only be as big as the number of enchantments you cast with Daxos out, that's a very very large mana investment for eventually slightly stronger lacking evasion Angles.
nigga, you ain't gonna make me list them, but there are anthem effects that grant first strike, double strike, haste, +1/0 when attacking, trample.
Red has a lot of non tribe anthem effects, just look on gatherer ffs.
>Man if they print Seras Sanctum in the deck I might reconsider, but that's about it.
What? Are you some kind of poor fag trying to talk about competitive magic while not being able to buy a card that costs less than a fetch?
I honestly don't think Daghatar is worse than Anafenza as a commander, she's pretty underwhelming. You want some real straight up better commanders, there's Karador and Ghave, those guys are busted. Anyway I like Kalonian Hydra and Champion of Lambholt
Yes I will use all 99 of my enchantments before I cast my commander
Yes, compared to the other 4 in a vacuum Daxos is the weakest, however if you're playing him you have to consider your local meta, their speed, number of board wipes, what's in your 99, etc.
When he hits the field no one is going to to "Oh shit." But arguably "Oh shit" has never been B/W's strong point, it's always been the long game, which is where Daxos will shine.
Ezuri is going to win games with a huge thrumming bird and it's going to make me laugh my ass off when people die to it.
I kinda want to do something with the Kraul guy but I have no idea where to really start.
That's just clearly wrong. Ezuri gets out of hand super quick and has ridiculous synergy with a lot of cards. Snake lord is just Thassa but with green and support for a low power level tribe. Not saying snake tribal isn't fun, but it's not powerful.
What kind of Competitive magic decks are running Sanctum? Enchantments are too slow for competitive magic.
I'm talking from the prospect of buying a deck for it's commander to have fun with them. Daxos won't stand a chance in a competitive environment and he doesn't look to even be enjoyable in a laid back environment.
What reason would he have had to buy if he didn't already play an enchantment deck?
Why would he have bought the entire precon if he already had an full W/x Enchantment deck? Singles would be cheaper.
>Yes, compared to the other 4 in a vacuum Daxos is the weakest, however if you're playing him you have to consider your local meta, their speed, number of board wipes, what's in your 99, etc.
My problem is that I do have a somewhat competitive meta and he won't work there.
The G/U and G/B commanders are the only ones who look like they have a shot.
>When he hits the field no one is going to to "Oh shit." But arguably "Oh shit" has never been B/W's strong point
I've been waiting for a long time for a strong B/W commander. I have yet to get one.
I have one last hope in the new member of the Obzidat.
I don't know about one shifting into the other because I don't keep up too much with Legacy or its meta, all I know is that there's at least two decks in Legacy that run Sanctum as a 4-of almost 100% of the time.
>waiting for a competitive bw commander
>is hoping for funny jew ghosts to be good
>thinks kraul guy of shitty anthems is good enough for competitive magic at all, or that slow recursion lady is going to just hit play and die before she ever gets to trigger.
Teysa and Selenia have existed for ages if you want half way competitive commander for orzhov.
I don't think it'll be good but I actually love the direction they took with RW. Both of the new Commanders give you a good Commander damage out while encouraging you to build with a different gameplan from the typical Voltron or token strategies found in the colour combination.
I think it'd be pretty fun to build a Kalemne deck that just spits out a fatty every turn to try and demand answers. I'd rather go Tariel or Zurgo for anything Anya would do but she's an interesting take on a finisher.
If we are talking purely commpettive then non can be used, no shit.
They aren't even close to top tier.
That's why I'm bringing up the power level of the set.
Well I'm not talking about Legacy dumb ass, I'm talking about Commander.
Zur and Olorlo are both banned in Dual and in multiplayer they aren't even top tier.
You found two decks that use Sanctum, two decks that aren't winning anything in multiplayer tournaments, or are just outright not playable in the only truly commpettive commander format.
Anafenza's appeal is really just that it's graveyard hate on demand.
Sometimes you don't care much about your Commander so you just end up picking something that rounds out your deck or provides a passable answer to problems. I've got like, a dozen different builds that I end up using Tasigur in even when I'm not using all the Sultai colours.
>while encouraging you to build with a different gameplan from the typical Voltron or token strategies found in the colour combination
What different strategy are they encouraging?
Phyrexian unlife + ad nauseum/selenia + mirror universe
Or near death experience.
Its not "omgwtfbbq" busted but in most metas that aren't just about who can play hermit druid first or who can sac their academy rector first wins its pretty good.
>mfw they printed debtor's knell, one of the best multiplayer reanimation cards in the same block as the golgari.
BW was never about reanimation in the first place, stop crying about shit you never had you fucking imbecile.
I think this is one of the coolest thing about the FRF Khans.
Each of them is very simple and seemingly one-dimensional, but their unique color identity makes them stupidly flexible.
>guy makes abrasive comment people disagree with and don't like
>WELL LETS EVERY BODY FLIP TABLES AND THROW A FUCKING TANTRUM ABOUT IT PEOPLE AREN'T ALLOUD TO BE REWD ON THE INTERNET THATS ILLEGAL BADWRONG OPINIONS DESERVE EXECUTION
fucking christ, why is 98% of the internet fucking crybabbies
Well they banned that guy for life for being a rapist (10 years ago) but still let a convicted drug deal into the hall of fame and even let him play magic and write articles about it.
I'm fairly new to commander but let me get this straight. Would it be possible to play this card in a deck with a bunch of token generating spells and only really strong creatures. So basically you spend your first few turns filling the board with tokens and tutoring up the card then sack all the tokens and get Emrakul and some other bullshit out?
Virtually every RW Commander wants you to go wide.
Kalemne is RW with a fatty strategy. Anya is a finisher that doesn't require extra parts, I think pillow-fort/burn with her would be pretty neat.
RW is still shit but I'm more interested in seeing the remaining cards than seeing what they do with their spellslinger RU. Speaking of which, fuck, I want my RU artificer.
instant speed delayed mass polymorph? why not just put mass polymorph in the deck? why waste a commander exclusive on this?
Yeah, too bad that Sphinx doesn't look like it'll be R/U.
Hopefully after Innistrad we'll go to a plane that has a legend for us dammit. That's the thing I'm most disappointed about with these decks..like, it's something people have been asking for ages.
>WAAAHH TOOTH AND NAIL ISN'T STRONG ENOUGH WAHHH
fucking babies man jesus christ
Not at all mate.
Karador/Mimeo are both much faster and much more resilient.
Gets past wraths mate.
Never said it could protect itself, just that it does have counter spell support.
the commader one is theoretically more powerful, and being instant speed lends itself to comboing more that actual mass polymorph, and you can set up annoying ETB Triggering creatures while the polymorph is waiting to go off and do some more stupid shit.
This one lets you replay your commander to gather exp counters (and instant speed means you can play it in response to a board wipe and still have an army).
Meant not artifact based. I shouldn't complain yet since there's a chance but I don't have my hopes up.
>guy makes abrasive comment people disagree with and don't like
Bad for business bud. You really don't want your content creators to be talking about that shit in general if your objective is to create content for a children's card game. Personally i would have just reprimanded but I can see where the company is coming from.
there was some ass clown when daxos was spoiled insisting he was the shittest exp counter commander because "you're just going to get wrathed every single turn hes out and you'll never have him out when you play enchantment spells to get counters and the tokens are negligible because they'll just get wrathed away every turn"
some people here are genuinely retarded
I don't blame CFB at all for firing the dude, I blame literally every single person who was offended for being fucking stupid and allowing themselves to feel offended at the mindless ramblings of someone who plays a card game for a living. like holy fuck what kind of fucking hug box world are we raising children in anymore that NOBODY HAS THICK FUCKING SKIN
this is why i quit playing league of legends tbhfamsmh
if you can spit out 3 mana 3/3s I'd say you're in an ok spot, and that implies that you've played three enchantments already. He's slow and unprotected, but if he can get going he is going be making a lot of p/t on the board
Daxos is incredibly slow and shitting out fatties is done better by basically every other commander that does it.
Literally not him but you can think what you want, I was lurking while at work.
>Sure thing there mate, sleep well tonight.
Oh, you're not?
>these decks are better than these decks in multiplayer tournaments
>oh? What are you basing that on?
Go to bed anon, you're drunk.
Heliod is just much better.
His tokens will never be 0/0 unless you have him on the field at the same time an enchantment you casts ressolves.
He's much harder to remove, and can actually win the game through general damage quite fast with anthem effects.
If you want to talk about competitive then talk dual.
In which Zur is banned.
If you're talking about Multiplayer then you can go by public knowledge and first hand experience. In which case Karador is better then Zur.
It's pretty clear anon that Karador and Hermit Druid Scion are much better decks given their speed and resiliency to disruption.
Black isn't exactly the best pillowfort color and without strong tutoring or card draw you'll be hard-pressed to make do with white alone. Which I suppose you could do with a high budget in black but the sheer amount of mana you'll be spending to keep up with everyone else will be intense.
Boon weaver combo man.
It's stupid. turn 1 wins are god hand territory but with the right tutors/ramp it's pretty easy to win by turn 4 at the latest.
In case you don't know the combo the basics are like this.
Get Boonweaver giant into play somehow.
Fetch Pattern of Rebirth
Sac Boonweaver fetching Karmic guide
Boonweaver brings back Pattern
Sac Boonweaver fetching Fiend hunter on guide
Sac Hunter for Guide trigger bringing back Boonweaver.
Sac Boonweaver fetching Revelark
Guide + Revalar + Fiend Hunter allows unlimited recursion. Boonweaver then fetches every creature in your deck.
Most often wins with Blood Artist, but if your sac outlet is mill alter then you mill your opponents.
Nigger, I too wish we finally had a playable WB commander other than Teysa, but no. Daxos is shit at enchantress and shit at stax. It really isn't worth mixing up both strategies for something so weak.
He is when he's 3 mana and his tokens are 3 mana a piece. Even assuming you've drawn into either loads of 1CMC tutors or 1CMC enchantments it'll be difficult for your tokens to be sizable by turn 9.
Maybe for some super casual games he will be alright.
Tons of fast mana tutors and recursion.
easy way to do it is a sac outlet like Charon Feeder /Alter of Dementia
Then Entomb/Reanimate Boon Weaver.
Can do it turn 1 with something like Lotus petal/ Mox Diamond and a land.
Other then that tutor it out and boom.
The same way you run every other monocolor, 50 lands nigga.
What tutors are you using? Entomb? Then how are you recurring it so fast? What if you don't have entomb in your opener?
I can understand that it *can* go off super early, but it honestly doesn't sound like it's as consistent as people are making it out to be.
How do I best utilize/abuse this card
You're not talking to the Anon who described the deck to you, that would be me.
Tell you what.
Give that a look.
My list is different, but he's given a good rundown on how the deck works, and why it's so quick.
>Altar of Bone
And those are only the 2 or less mana tutors, not counting Survival of the Fittest and Fauna Shamin.
Is that just what you say when someone calls you out for being wrong?
I'm not even the guy who said Zur was better. You just don't have any legitimate basis for what you're saying. You said something was better based on tournaments. Then when pressed, went on to say those tournaments don't actually exist. Then you said it was based on observation. Then said you weren't talking about your observations, while continuously saying whatever let's you sleep at night. You're all over the fucking place and you have literally nothing to back up your claim.
>defense of the heart/tooth and nail
>brood monitor/deranged hermit/hornet queen/any chucklefuck that makes 4+ bodies hit the floor
>sage of hours
If you're talking Dual commander which was my original go to then we have tourney results.
If you're talking multiplayer then I misspoke and we don't have tourney results.
But regardless of the tourney results I as someone who has played both decks on the top of their game can say without a doubt that Karador is stronger.
The more I think about Anya the more interested I am. She really is very different from Aurelia and Gisela, with shit like Sulfuric Vortex and Manabarbs eating away at people even if slowly so that by the time you drop Anya, she is already on.
So, I already have a Pharika deck (Living Plane and Doomwake Giant), but despite my best efforts, I am waifuing hard as shit on Meren. Combine that with my Vorthos side and I really want to fucking build Meren. Like. Holy shit.
Is it wrong to want to make another BG deck? A lot of my black staples are used up between Jeleva, Pharika, and Liliana already, and I'd be adding to what is essentially a Harem at this point because I haven't finished Ulasht and/or Surrak yet.
I don't have a specific question. I just want to make sure I understand the stack, and I was hoping someone could post a link to a comprehensive intelligible article or something.
>Combine that with my Vorthos side and I really want to fucking build Meren.
Cmon m8 her UR article wasn't that great. Writing was above par for Wizards but her story amounted to an angsty teenage necromancer's fanfic "why doesn't my family accept me for being a death mage waaah maybe I should kill them all"
Maybe you're not a Vorthos, maybe you're just a waifufag. Just a thoughf.
I didn't like how it ended but everything else was alright. She did what she had to to survive and was punished by everyone she knew and loved for it. I'd definitely be upset. but "GRAAH I'M GONNA KILL ALL LIFE ON JUND" is just silly and hamfisted motivation after she got her vengeance
There are very few cards you would want from it.
If you're not talking purely EDH then maybe, but I'd still recommend against it.
If you check online you should easily be able to get what you want from the set for much less then 100$.
These exp counter commanders look like they're going to be incredibly annoying in any kind of a prolonged game, especially with the tucking gone. Like, "I don't even want to play this shit anymore" annoying.
Thank god we don't have a red card that is his wife.
Think of how much we would be breaking his heart.
I don't think they really knew each other but I always imagine great interactions with Arcum and Fledon.
>These exp counter commanders look like they're going to be incredibly annoying in any kind of a prolonged game
IME prossh was the same way, and to a lesser extent heliod
still not really sure how to deal with it
try nevermore effects, i guess? because trying to punish people who break the social contract of "let's bring decks that are fun to go long with" by building decks that can force them to go short... doesn't work out too well
>splitting all five commander decks with three people
>going to be the third one to pick cards
>mfw all the good cards will get dibs before getting to me
last time I do this shit.
If you want trading then current set.
After RTR tho, there really isn't that much with a ton of EDH value.
Again tho, try adding all the cards you want to a shopping basket. Shouldn't come close to 100$ unless you want a fuck ton of it.
The fuck kinda setup you guys doing?
Whatever the hell it is change it so
Person 1 gets a pick followed by person 2 then person 3, doing that over and over in a loop.
Only way to salvage your shit fest.
Same here anon.
Flavor means more than the story. It's why I use shitty card's like Endless Obedience and Necromantic Summons in Liliana and Pharika's Mender in Pharika. There are far better cards for all three of those, yet I'm using them for the flavor. In this case, I really like the flavor of running Meren as GB control and reanimating my opponent's shit because it's what she does.
As for Feldon, he's on top of my list as well, and with that new Sphinx card drawer, I'm probably going to make him, too.
No problem. Remember, 4cmc is your strength and weakness. Kirin will kill itself if you cast a 4cmc spirit, which is why I skipped them and added in really nice cards like Hero of Bladehold for a minor token theme. You could also go stax rather easily.
So, Im thinking of getting the GB and UG (since WB is looking like shit), is it worth it to buy them now or wait till more is spoiled?
I'm likely going to get the GB no matter what but the other is kinda iffy.
I don't see your point?
I never said anything about black enchantments being weak.
No problem man, just don't want you to get fucked or anything. We haven't seen all the commanders yet and there could be some really cool reprints.
Oh man. I calculated the cards I wanted and it didn't come anywhere close to $100. I can even add cards that I know some guys would be willing to trade for!
Thanks for replying to my original post!
I don't really have the time because I'm painting a room but...
>Flipwalkers are mostly good, Jace is cash money
>Sword of the Animist
>Starfield of Nyx
>Knight of the White Orchid
Just a bunch of cool and unique effects I guess. A lot of people were joking that it had cycles of "strictly worse" cards than before, like Dark Petition and Day's Undoing being worse versions of Demonic Tutor and Timetwister. But they're still good cards and you can run them alongside the originals.
So, how disappointed do you guys think you'll be when ghost pops is spoiled?
On a scale of "Interesting isn't in the Boros Color Pie" (most disappointing)
to Golgari Waifu (not disappointed at all)
White has to use tricks that it has like Land Tax and Scroll Rack, both are readily tutorable in mono white, Skullclamp, Slate of Ancestry, and Mentor of the Meek work well because of weenies, again two of which is easily tutored. White gains a ton of life, which makes Well of Lost Dreams viable, also tutorable.
You need To go out of your way a little, but white can draw cards.
"Interesting isn't in the boros color pie" because life gain is to BW like mill is to UB. Wizards just makes shitty lifegain/drain cards and calls it a day like we're supposed to be grateful that this trash infects our color pair.
I'll try to spell it out because apparently you have brain problems
You said Daxos' ability is weak
I provided a bunch of enchantments with sac effects that not only make his tokens bigger but get fed by them.
If you want to keep saying a 3 CMC general that shits out X/Xs in colors that love tokens and sacrificing creatures is bad be my fucking guest. I honestly don't know what you fags want out of the BW general when we finally got a decent one that's not based on life draining.
Sigarda, Rakdos, Talrand, Tasigur, and Borborygmos. I don't play jank. I'm the fourth best player(out of more than 10) in a cutthroat as fuck meta who finds ways to make underrated generals amazing with underrated cards. Whenever I open a pack of origins its almost always something I need. For instance, I needed a Jace for Tasigur and pulled one in a pack a week ago.
How do you think I feel about "Just another combat trick and/or small double striker" for RW?
Every set with a little multicolor, I wait for the RW card to be revealed as maybe it is something I can add to any RW deck. Every set I am disappointed when it's just another War Flare, or Resolute Blademaster, or god forbid, Desperate Stand.
Wizard just keeps breaking my heart.
>a decent one
We've had a decent one for a long time.
We wanted a good one.
Not a pile of ass.
If I wanted to sacrifice for good stuff I'd play Green/Black or better yet Karador/Mimeoplasm.
Ashaya, The Awoken World
Helm of the Gods
and more that I don't feel like listing
are all cards I needed that I pulled. There are many more cards from the set that I need as well.
>I provided a bunch of enchantments with sac effects that not only make his tokens bigger but get fed by them.
ok so let me get this straight
as an example of a card that synergizes with daxos, by way of having creatures to sacrifice, you cite... blood funnel
blood funnel, which makes noncreature spells cost 2 less with the sacrifice of a creature
so for instance, when casting a noncreature spell, you can activate daxos for 1WB, then feed the token to blood funnel, resulting in a net savings of -1 mana
Are you brain damaged? You can't just fucking pattern-match "tokens" and "sacrificing" creatures and get a good idea, you fucking cretin
>If you want to keep saying a 3 CMC general that shits out X/Xs in colors that love tokens and sacrificing creatures is bad be my fucking guest
none of those properties (mana cost, */*s, love tokens, sacrificing creatures) have any intrinsic relationship with "not a bad card". They have to exist in a context, and the only attempt to draft a context indicated that daxos is irritatingly inconvenienced by a stray wrath effect with certain timing, which is a new and exciting vulnerability that most enchantment-based decks don't have to deal with and don't want to deal with
if you have an actual argument by all means
Just thoughts so far.
>Champion of Lambholt
Just cut Swarmlord from my list recently. Seemed too slow.
oh yeah man, I totally mentioned blood funnel cause I love adding WB to the cost of my spells. It's not like a can spend a turn shitting out 3+ tokens and be ready for next turn.
I have no idea what point you are trying to prove with your second comment. I fail to see how a 3 CMC army in a can is weak to wraths
>It's not like I can spend a turn shitting out 9 mana worth of crappy tokens and be ready for next turn
Holy fuck man are you just retarded?
>I have no idea what point you are trying to prove with your second comment. I fail to see how a 3 CMC army in a can is weak to wraths
Because they are tied to your commander who also dies to the wrath.