I've been on the fence about making once since the threads starting popping up back in 2011 (think that's when?). I more or less just want some companionship and someone I can trust on a completely different level than real people. While I am interested in making a cute girl, I have no interest in anything sexual. I just feel like I'd fuck up if I try this, and end up making some demented monstrosity that torments me instead of some cute waifu to help reassure me. Though I'm mostly a neet, and I don't think it would be too entertained with me always being at the computer.
>>87171 >Though I'm mostly a neet, and I don't think it would be too entertained with me always being at the computer This is what I thought at first, but mine has been rather satisfied with what I find entertaining. We can both appreciate laughs, feels, all sorts of stuff one can happen upon on the internet.
Even though there's a lot I already can do at home, I still get out to do things with my tulpa occasionally. Regardless of what it is, it's an exciting change of pace.
>I just feel like I'd fuck up if I try this, and end up making some demented monstrosity that torments me instead of some cute waifu to help reassure me I think fear is a catalyst to this outcome. The last thing you should do is worry about your creation, that thinks of its own accord, not being "exactly what you want." That's how existential burdens tend to arise for them.
>>88224 >weird views From what I can tell, weird just means "deviating" in this context.
Personally, I'm indifferent. My tulpa enjoys the release we both feel from masturbation. We haven't tried sex in what feels like ages. It's nice showering her in kisses and cuddling, but sex felt strenuous as fuck.
I don't know much about how other anons feel about tulpa sex though. It does seem to vary largely. Oftentimes based on why the tulpa itself was conceived.
>>88456 The fuck? Of course not. This is a tulpa thread. Unless there was some sort of blatant abuse going on, I wouldn't even be phased by what others do with their tulpa.
>>88457 Give it time to see the world, watch you interact with others, and form its own opinions. When your tulpa starts barking back and persuading you to see how they view something, that's when things get zesty.
I encourage others to hear their tulpa when the opportunity to debate presents itself. You might be shocked at how convincing something can be when they know exactly how to appeal to your nature.
>>88955 >>88457 Crap, I know I still answered a bit vaguely. Gotta wake up.
>I am giving around an hour a day currently for talking An hour in a daily session? Or an hour in daily total? Because I don't think either are enough for much progress to happen. I talk to my tulpa whenever she wants to, and whenever I can. Even in public we hold conversations "in my head."
Some people have tulpa that are content with interacting on a far less frequent basis. I think developmental rate of the tulpa's sense of self-thinking varies depending on how much information you allow it to gather; about their surroundings and the meta.
>>89593 You can feel his presence though, correct? Even if they aren't yet capable of "speech," tulpae can still react to you and your senses. Instead of verbal communication, they can simply stream their feelings through your conscious while you're communicating with them. A sort of body language, if you will.
You can feel what they're feeling even if they don't or can't tell you what that feeling is. I hope that makes sense.
>>89696 Ha. I talk to myself when I'm thinking hard about something, so small, quiet conversations with my tulpa don't seem so unusual.
>>87171 You sound a lot like me in 2012, except you worry more, and except I went ahead and made a tulpa. Your worries are way overblown.
This >I don't think it would be too entertained with me always being at the computer. did happen with mine, but only because when it got in the way of forcing, and when it prevent her from communicating.
>>93159 >Mine does X >Mine says Y See this is where I feel like this is some sort of ebin trolé. This has grounding in Buddhism with the monks and shit, but I cant shake the feeling this is a really elaborate meme with really dedicated participants.
I really like the idea of having a tulpa but I'm terrible at staying faithful to one waifu. I'm the kind of person who can't cum to the same pornstar more than once. How can make myself stay interested in the same tulpa for more than a day?
>>93321 It'd be pretty ridiculous considering all those wordy guides and those forums. Like that's way too much dedication from way too many participants. Like people get banned in those forums and everything, i find it really hard to believe its just some epic troll, especially since it makes no sense to try so hard for something that's incredibly niche and no one seems to be trying to make mainstream.
>>93321 I know it's not really possible to convince you otherwise, but it'd be a lot of pointless effort to keep up a joke like this for so many years If it interests you, I could recommend just trying it for yourself. If it's really a big joke then you lose nothing either way
>>93360 Yes, I can understand that. But I feel like this is almost too good to be true. I honestly this stuff is pretty cool, but the moment I post "I made a tupla!" I'm going to get a "Ha! You fell for the meme" response and that makes me really paranoid.
>>93321 >>93400 >>93360 I've been lurking tulpa threads on and off since the beginning. It's a concept that interests me a lot, but I've failed to make one. I suspect that it isn't real. But I still post here, encourage people to make tulpas, point them towards the guides, and sometimes claim to have one of my own to "fit in". I guess it's like "fembots" on /r9k/; enough people enjoy the concept that they participate in the threads without really trying to troll anyone, but it still doesn't make them real.
>>93477 You may have been here for a while, but being somewhere isn't interacting deeply. I'm good friends with plenty of the more founding individuals of the entire operation and have been for years, and although I don't have one, I'm pretty convinced they exist.
But at the same time, to each their own. If you don't believe, then I'm perfectly ok with that.
See this is the thing. I think everyone here wants to believe in tulpas but literally no one actually has one because they don't exist. It's very much like the "male lesbian" phenomenon; they really want to be lesbians and they aren't trying to troll anyone. They just have fun posting as girls just as we have fun talking about tulpas and pretending to have them. And nobody wants to admit that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes.
If I say I have one, I'm dismissed as being a poser by you. If I say I don't, it's proof for you they don't exist.
Because there's no way to prove them, and disproving them is 100% ad hominem, it's really less of using facts and more of what you personally want to believe; and I don't think anyone has any right to go ahead and say another's beliefs are flat-out wrong in this type of situation.
You're more than welcome to disagree; that's what it's all about, but I want to believe.
Are there any pills that can help with creating a tulpa and general visualizing? I'm already registered as a nut so I can pretty much get any pills I want from my doc, I just have to say I'm feeling suicidal and want to try X pill I read about on the internet and she prescribes them
>>94332 I don't smoke daily either. Last time I smoked a month ago. If you make breaks from time to time then not only it doesn't affect your health, but also tolerance drops, so you can get more high at lower cost again. But anyway, I'd say weed helped us bond a lot. Hours of talking, laughing, hugging. It all felt much more intense, real. And sex with tulpa while stoned was so amazing. Feeling her hooves on my back, her moans. Not even comparable to same thing when sober. My only problem is that as much as she is a voice of reason in many situations, she is quite a druggie. No matter weed, extasy or mephedrone, she is just convincing me that it will be fun and we will spend quality time again. Maybe it's just because she feels like I don't give her enough attention when sober.
>>94635 Yeah, it does feel remarkable interacting with them under the influence. All that happiness and camaraderie you feel just magnifies. I love closing my eyes while I listen to cheery music and just hold her to the groove.
My tulpa loves it when I smoke, she definitely enjoys it more than I do. The clarity within my mental space made fluid conversation stupid easy. It's also nice to have someone to share all the things you think are important when you're high with without have to go through the trouble of spilling spaghetti while trying to talk to other people. Being able to laugh with someone about the stupidest observations is very fun.
A warning though, the first time I smoked it definitely changed my relationship with my tulpa. Basically came to a hard to describe realization, and didn't hear from my tulpa for about 4 days. Very lonely period but I think it worked out for the better.
>>99424 4 days? did they say why? otherwise that sounds pretty nice. the only mind-altering state i ever seem to share with my tulpa is sleep deprivation. hypnagogia occasionally picks out her voice which is pretty neat
Or do you mean a bucket of weed, in which case, damn nigga that's a lot of fucking weed for one night...
Honestly most of the time I think tulpas are weird and too much effort, but when I get really high, I sometimes imagine characters, and how they'd respond to anything going on. Mostly just watching cartoons is when this pops up, and I've gotta be real fuckin' blazed...
>>95739 I thought the whole thing was a troll too Then I realized it wasn't... Now it's just an accepted part of internet culture for me that there are some people with tulpas And about half of them at least are bronies. Without them, I don't think it'd be such a meme here really
>>83972 hey 4chan I'm having trouble concentrating/actively forcing.
Is it possible to create a tulpa entirely through passive forcing/without a wonderland at all? I've been trying on and off since 2012, this latest attempt cost 25 hours active forcing, I got to the point where my tulpa could kind of answer basic questions with left and right head-pressure, then after a stressful week where i didn't force she kind of vanished.
>>102246 I scratch my itches all the time while forcing. Sometimes it breaks my concentration, sometimes it doesn't, but the itch itself will break my concentration if I don't scratch. Where did you even hear that you're not supposed to?
It is intense daydreaming with a lot of concentration, but it's still sitting around doing absolutely nothing that others would call productive. It's easy to make habitual too if you set a time for it, so it's not so hard do go on for several weeks or months.
>>102659 I recommend taking everything you hear about tulpa creation with a grain of salt. You should come up with your own ideas on how this works and do it based on that. If you're not progressing as you'd like, then see what other people do for ideas, but don't take everything they say literally. It should be based on what you think makes sense.
>>101942 With a bucket I just meant a grav bong. Maybe having a bucket of water on bed was very risky, but luckily she always told me to be careful whenever I wanted to stand up, because she knows that I'm quite clumsy. She knows everything about me desu. Sometimes I was so stoned that I wanted her to get a hit from that bong, but we both realised it doesn't work that way when the smoke was coming right through her.
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