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What's your "hidden gem"?

A country, city or park that doesn't get much respect and/or is underappreciated?

I'm not as well traveled as you folks, but I'd go with Georgia, the country. Was not expecting it to be so beautiful and so cheap.
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literally anywhere in the sierra outside the main yosemite corridor and a couple other high traffic areas like whitney.
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Colombia.

I first went down there some time back, when their reputation as a drug cartel shooting-range was keeping visitors away in droves. The situation had improved, but visitors hadn't fully caught on yet. Damn, you never saw people so happy to see a traveler in their country. It was like being a rock-star.

That feeling has faded, f course bu it is still an under-valued travel destination.
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>>1096190
Mah nigga, also eastern side of sierras for life

This is why Mexico is better than everywhere else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i29i3It-raY
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But this place has every landscape imaginable.
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>>1112561
Doesn't have rainforests.
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>>1112562
Neither does Mexico

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I am scandinavian, but with a Russian name (Vadim). Is traveling to Poland this summer a bad idea? From what i have heard they fucking hate russians.
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>>1111873
Nobody gives a flying fuck. Russia hate is centered on the country as a whole, not on individual tourists.
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>>1111873
I went to Poland with a bunch of Russian friends.

No problem what so ever , if anything some poles seemed only mildly miffed at non-Russian me (I'm from Saudi Arabia)
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>>1111873
Just don't speak Russian to a drunk polak and you'll be fine. Also don't be black, big nono there

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I don't know whether this is the right place to ask but have any of you had phobias of flying and being in another country for long periods of time (2months-ish)? If so, how did you get over it?
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No.

Therapy.
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>>1111869
Oh, it's the daily anxiety bait thread.

When will OP get bored of making these threads?
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>>1111906
It's my first time here actually. I thought this would be the best place to ask since everyone loves travelling here but it sucks that I can't get over it

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Hi all, I would love peoples advice on a good quality waterproof travel bag to take that will survive different climates, not really extremes but it needs to be able to take a battering (traveling north America and Iceland) I have something like pic related in mind so I had have it in the carry on luggage at the airport
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>>1111785
Waterproof bags aren't necessary and they're not as versatile for a bunch of different climates. Get a water resistant bag instead and if you're walking into a massive typhoon or something then just put all your stuff into a garbage bag, tie it off, and put that in your backpack. It will be 100% waterproof.

My favorite versatile bag is the Kelty Redwing. I've used mine for more than 10 years of traveling, frequently to extreme climates.
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>>1111785
Although I agree with >>1111976 If you're looking for a waterproof bag you can really throw around, look into Surplus Swiss army bags. I picked mine up for around $40 and haven't been disappointed yet. pic related.
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>>1111976
This.

I have a "water proof bag". I was so proud of it. I wasn't proud of it when my laptop got destroyed during a downpour in Florida.

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We've bought an ocean going catamaran and we're going to sail the world. Join us and see what retirement life is about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_hDn_eyT24
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How much did the boat cost? How did you learn? Where are you at? Where are you going?
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Hope you guys have a safe journey around the world.

Storms may be scary, but just buckle down and use your knowledge on boats and you will be fine. But with current boat tech, they're nothing more than a roller coaster ride.
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>>1111660
>We got a boat
>Check out this cIick bait Iink spam and heIp us pay off this boat

“Don’t ever drink the coffee on the plane. Just don’t. There is a reason airplane coffee gets a bad rap. It isn’t made with bottled water, and let’s just say that the airplane’s potable water isn’t very desirable. The valves for cleaning out the lavatory waste and filling the clean water are very close to each other and sometimes serviced by the same guy…at the same time.”
http://plugnstay.com/airline-secrets-revealed-from-ex-employee/
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>>1111587
Old news are old.
Instead of promoting your shitty blog just link to the article or even better provide a screencap.
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelly-payne/11-airline-secrets-from-a_b_9618914.html
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>>1111631
better read before you talk, the article is well linked , but if you read with your eyes closed i couldnt think of a possiblity that you can see that . thanks
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>>1111635
fuck your blog...link directly bitch

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I'm going to Thailand for 3 months and I want to try to learn the language. I'll be staying in Chiang Mai.

I also am addicted to surfing the web and porn, and it contributes to my insomnia and general suckery. Unfortunately, my need to kick this habit takes priority over learning Thai.

How can I learn Thai without an internet connection? I have a solid 2 days left to download any listening I need onto an iPod and get all the books I need.
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I am not really sure if you need an internet connection for rosetta stone... but that seems to be the way to go. Good luck with the porn addiction thing, may I suggest a nice ladyboy to curb your addiction?
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>>1111411

Rosetta Stone Thai is absolutely terrible.

My suggestion is Thai-language. They have recordings and a couple lessons. Some are pretty OK, some are useless.
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>>1111412
good to know, are there any other Rosetta Stones that aren't worth the time to pirate.....I mean purchase legally?

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Hi /trv/ and Uruguayans,

I will be heading this Summer to Uruguay in order to play in this year's Festival Panamericano de Ajedrez de la Juventud. I will be playing in the 18 and under male section.

What can you tell me about Uruguay? From what I've read about it online, it seems like a very pleasant place. I have been to Latin America before and I know some Spanish.

Thanks!
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oh shit, i didnt realize how slow this board was. guess I'll wait for a while.
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Hey. Sure, what do you wanna know?

General places to visit in Montevideo are the Rambla (coast zone), the Centro (center of the city, main street is 18 de Julio) and Ciudad Vieja (old center of the city).

In Centro there's the Intendencia Municipal that has like a square where people go to play chess... I don't know what you are interested in to visit?

Also, the Panamericano is in July, right? So, winter here. It can be really windy but you can still walk around the city just fine.
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>>1111089
Hey. How much crime is there in Montevideo? It should be much safer than a place like Rio de Janeiro right?

What foods should I try while in Uruguay?

Those are the only questions I have for now haha.

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is it dead?

seems to me like it's just shills and adds now

the more normie tourists used it, the less usefull it became for realtravelers^tm
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I'm still a fan for getting a quick overview of the major sites in places I know nothing about. Tripadvisor is usually my first stop to learn a few of the biggest things to do in a new place, although there's a lot more research that I do before I put feet on the ground there.
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>>1110600
Does it matter? I feel like most people end up going to the same sites anyway. I'll always use it to look for attractions and take a quick glimpse at hotel ratings. It's still relevant for the most part. That and reading books, it more or less does the job.
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>RealTraveler™
>research
>RESERVATIONS
not even once

Hello from Russia yблюдки !In this tred are you find out about Russia and russian people !
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I'm excited to go to Russia this summer but read here to not be American in Russia. Think it'll be cool if I'm American if I speak some Russian and know some Russian songs to sing?
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I am going there in August with my wife and her friend and husband.

>I am half native american, look like pic related only younger

Will I be singled out for being not white?

Also how far in advance can you book Sapsan tickets from Moscow to St. Petersburg?
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>>1110196
I think 45 days in advance for train tickets. If you want to go to the Bolshoi theatre, book those in advance as well... with the current exchange rate it has never been cheaper.

>>1110186
It is not a problem to be American in Russia. I am a westerner living here (not American though) and everyone is usually pretty happy to meet me. Russian people do not act like the Russian government.

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So I'm planning a ski trip to Japan with a bunch of m8s from Australia and I've been wanting to plan the trip myself instead of going on one of those group tours.

Can anyone share experiences in DIY ski trips with regards to (doesn't have to be Japan)
- gear hire/mountain passes/
- bringing your own gear on the plane/baggage
- Photography/tech for capturing runs
- Accommodation (in or outside of the resort)/bookings
- Perfect time for powder
- Insurance

Feel free to share your favourite destinations/resorts/mountains as well.
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hey anon
so I did a trip from Aus to Jap a year ago with a bunch of my mates from Canada. We flew from Cairns into Sapporo (through Osaka) which was roughly $750 return with Jetstar (each obviously)
I ended up renting a campervan for the trip which turned out a lot cheaper than trying to organize hotels and constant transport for the 5 of us. I think it was about $2000 for 2 and a half weeks. So we drove to Niseko first which is always fucking epic. Can't recommend that place enough. The snow was great the whole time we were there (which was early Feb) and they had...
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>>1109997
we also traveled to a few other small resorts around Hokkaido, but honestly they were all pretty crap. I'm sure there's other good shit out there but we just didn't have the best timing or plan..

If you're staying in Sapporo for any amount of time and you need somewhere cheap to stay, I'd check out the SOLE spa house. Its a brilliant male only bath house with sleeping pods, an amazing restaurant, lounge and spa for like $30 AUD a night each
Oh, and the best bar in town at the entrance...
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As for insurance, I normally go through World Nomads. They cover skiing and snowboarding abroad so you don't have to worry about any gnarly shit taking you out
And DEFINITELY get insurance on the campervan or rental if you go that way. The Japanese are extremely linear in thinking. Don't piss them off haha
But I wouldn't worry too much about learning the language. You'll anger them anyway because you're not Asian, but they're patient and generally can understand mimes quite well

What are some great non-touristy things to do when visiting California? I've been to Venice Beach, rode the rides on Santa Monica pier, and seen the Grand Canyon. While I'd do all these things again in a heartbeat, I'd like this trip to be a little different. I'll be in Long Beach for a week in August.
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slab city, if that's something you can like
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Check out the Museum of Death
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Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris on the far Eastern outskirts of LA.

They have all kinds of rail stuff on display, but their star attraction is their collection of LA-area streetcars, many of which are operational and do trips around the grounds.

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So I've been having daily suicidal thoughts for almost 2 years now, the economy is shit, i can't get a real job and am stuck working service industry jobs despite a Bach of IT and several certifications, I can't live like this anymore so I've decided to stop living like this...

I am half way through a TEFL course, and plan to slow travel my way through SE Asia and East Asia over the next few years teaching English, going to start with Vietnam, looking at Hanoi right now but not committed or anything, almost committed to Vietnam as my first "stop"...
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Vietnam seems awesome indeed

There are some stories of pokerplayers who do "slow traveling"... it's in the twoplustwo forums if you wanna search
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vietnam's cool but not Hanoi. Either Saigon if you like really big cities or look up some other place. Hanoi sucks (as do "communist" capitals in general)
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>>1109598

Are you fucking kidding me?

Hanoi is amazing. I love the place. It's one of my favourite cities in the world. It has a ton of charm, amazing food, decent nightlife (if you can find it), and it's beautiful. It's a really quirky city. I'd love to live there.

>You use your own money and time to volunteer
>Time abroad should be spent travelling
>Volunteering in some shit-tier village is probably not very fun
>Living standards in the middle of nowhere is probably not very high
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It also gives those little shits an excuse that the
"at least are doing something about the world" mentality. These people need to fucking die
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>>1109117
>You pay money to do a job for free that a local could do and be paid for.
>ego boosters
> paint a mural on a wall only for it to be whitewashed later for the next group of volunteers
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>>1109117
Basically it's only done for personal gain and nothing more. People do it to feel better about themselves. They do it to fool themselves and others into pretending that they're helping the world. They do it because they think the world is a good place filled with good people. They do it for their careers, to pad their resumes and to impress employers with how worldly they are.

Many people are naive, especially in western countries where they haven't experienced hardships and don't understand...
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Hey guys, I am turning 21 on July 4th and wanted to visit japan for my 21st birthday some time during July is there anything fun or interested you think I should do? I am a bit of a stoner on weeb to give you some information about me.
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dont come to Japan...please
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>>1108498
>im a bit of a stoner

wrong country for that
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>>1108654
>>1108498
>on weeb

wrong country for that

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Hey guys,

I'm going to Portugal in June, we will stay in the Luz area. I've already been to Portugal twice, but I never asked anyone about sightseeing. So here's my chance. What do you guys think would be worth seeing? I don't want to lie on the beach for a whole week. Thanks!
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bumpity bump
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>>1108380
Portugal is a fantastic place to spend a week but get the fuck away from the beaches full of package holiday English chavs and go north. There's lots to see and do in Lisbon; it's the most enjoyable city in Europe I have visited just to walk around in. Porto is very good too with a really nice music scene and great bars. If you are interested in history and culture you can spend a day in Guimaraes or Braga, too, and there is nice countryside and wine regions in the north, too. My favourite place in Portugal...
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>>1109658
Not the OP but I'm planning on studying in Portugual for a semester. Should I pick Lisbon or Porto? I heard that Lisbon is pretty expensive and I would like to travel through Europe, but then again I'm worried that I would have a much better time in Lisbon than in Porto because there are more people and more things to see and do.

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So, I'm going to move to Kyrgyzstan in August and I'm going to live there for around half a year, maybe more. I'm going to teach English in Bishkek, but I'd also like to take time to explore the country and also the surrounding countries(Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, China mostly). Has any of you ever been there or done a similar thing? The things I'd like to do includes:
-visiting nomads at the countryside
-climb a mountain( an easy one, since my physical condition is pretty weak)
-find historical places
-visit cool natural places, such as canyons,...
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>>1106214
Sulyukta sucks
Lake Issyk is beautiful.
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What's up, OP? I taught English in Almaty for a year and might be able to answer some of your questions. Cultures are very similar and desu you couldn't even tell you were in a different country except for the landscapes. Congrats on this adventure you're about to set on, you chose a very RealTraveler™ destination.

>visiting nomads at the countryside
There aren't many nomads these days as most people live in cities. There's probably more nomads still living in Kyrgyzstan than Kazakhstan due to economic hardship....
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>>1106214
>-visiting nomads at the countryside

real nomads are mostly just in the south, not many left. During summer holidays there are many people living around the Issykul and have something like a restaurant in their jurta

>-climb a mountain( an easy one, since my physical condition is pretty weak)
the whole country is just mountains
>-find historical places

nomads dont leave anything. Close to Bishkek there...
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I'm planning on doing a large tour of the United States next year on motorcycle, with the possibility of hitting all the lower 48 states. I'm generating a list of places to see/things to do/food to eat/etc. and am coming up a bit short on the last one. Food is rather a big deal for me, and I'm looking to try dishes and drinks that are famous to particular cities or regions. Some examples include:

Chicago pizza
Garbage plate from Rochester
Cheesesteak from Philly
Bagels from Long Island
Clam chowder from New England

... and so on. Sometimes...
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If you hit Missouri stop in St. Louis.
Really good food and many micro/craft breweries as well as AB.
Local food
Stl style pizza
Toasted raviolis
Pork steak.
I have traveled a lot throughout America and say stl food if you eat at the right spots is on top tier list.
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Which part of Michigan are you driving through
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it's not necessarily famous, but if you like grilled cheese hit up Cheesie's while you're in Chicago.

The best grilled cheese I've ever had and one of the best sandwiches I've ever had. They have 2 or 3 locations around Chicago as well as a food truck. If you go on a Sunday morning from 11-2 you can get a sandwich and unlimited domestic beer/bloody mary's/mimosas for $25, if you're into that.

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What's your backpacking essentials /trv/?

Both for hiking trips and more leisurely hostel backpacking vacations.

Rule of 3? Tropical & Cold weather climes, you name it.
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Pasport and credit cards are the REAL essentiials. All the rest I can buy. I never overpack. Just logic thinking.
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do you guys carry one of those string wallets around your neck for passport? I'm going to a place where I need my passport 24/7 for the first time and I have no idea how to carry it.
/noobshit
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>>1104793
Absolutely not. Never ever use those.

a) they're useless if you need to get your shit out quickly

b) they're supposed to fool muggers, but literally every mugger in the world knows about them

c) there are way better ways to carry your essentials that you want to protect like a concealable pocket along your thigh under your pants.

Hey /trv/, I might have an unusual request for you.

I'm about to graduate and have come to the conclusion that I'd like to bug-out with a stack of books to some small village with some great scenery and walking routes. I basically want to spend a month living in the lowest key, clearing my personal reading list as well as my mind.

This might be unusual for /trv/, as the only travelling I'd like to do is to whatever hidey-hole I slope off to for the month, with the exception of maybe visiting a couple of acquaintances en route.

Anyway, I was...
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>>1111670
Based OP. i would also like to know
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>>1111670
balear islands in spain are good, just don't go to ibiza, that's the expensive one
mallorca is cool and peaceful
alternatively jump the ocean come to mexico and get lost in chiapas, a friend of mine runs a hostel there and tell me it's not that dangerous
personally, i would prefer mallorca
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>>1111670
If you don't mind cold weather, you could always try somewhere in Canada or the northern parts of Scandinavia (though these might exceed your budget).

Have two weeks off in June and the tentative plan is to spend a chunk of time in Berlin then head up to those Scandinavian countries Probably do some combination of Copenhagen then some outdoors stuff in Norway.

Is Berlin a meme tier capital city? It seems pretty good for clubs and post-communist sights. Anyone have good/bad experiences in Denmark, Norway or Sweden?
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>>1111352
Sure thing man, Oktoberfest in Berlin is THE BEST!
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it's just a generic picture from the country ... like I said will be there during the summer anyway, which should be good in terms of weather/daylight further north from Germany.
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>>1111352
Just be aware of the several "no-go" areas in berlin. Don't take any trains at night and if you're a woman don't cloth yourself too smexy.

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I love to explore, and travel, and talk to people of other countries and cultures. It is absolutely beautiful, I wanna explore the world.

What would you recommend as a job that let's you travel a lot, and has good pay.

Also, how do people go backpacking through India and shit? I would like to do something like this as well.
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>>1111313

>how do people go backpacking

Not to be a dick, but is this a trick question? The "how" is pretty easily - not to mention obviously - answered. You buy a plane ticket, pack a bag, set off, and go around from city to city or locality to locality. You put in as much planning as you do or don't want to.
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>>1111324
i think what he means is how do people go backpacking as a regular lifestyle, aka keep or find new jobs easily while affording and having the time to travel the world.

and with that I am also curious.
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>>1111325
Be from a country where taking vacation is not seem as a bad thing helps a lot.
In other words, ditch US of fucking A, go to Europe or Australia or any other country where you can take 1 month off and enjoy the word instead of enjoying your office.
Or have a job that you can do remotely.

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What are some good place to visit without dying or getting kidnapped by Boko Haram?

I was looking at maybe Ghana, South Africa, Mozambique, Tanzania (including Zanzibar).
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>>1111081
Squad be lookin fresh
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Boko Haram is in northeast Nigeria and they don't dish out tourist visas. Ghana is safe as well as Tanzania. South Africa you have to watch yourself in the big cities.
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>>1111081

Did you get that image from /b/ a year or more ago? If yes I reckon that was my semi-OC from a YLYL thread... Classic picture

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Ayyyy what's up guys! So I'm moving from Palm Springs, SoCal to either San Francisco orrrrr Seattle, skipping Portland because bad blood haha uh. The entire situation is social and personal rebirth desu after an insane meltdown of all areas in my life (not even my fault surprisingly) so everything's being considered, but which do you seasoned travelers prefer? Visited SF a lot but never visited Seattle; Amtrak from my home is 90 bucks though so that's not bad to visit. Should I spend a couple days in both places? I'm 22, really into music music music,...
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>And what can you tell me about either place? Which neighborhoods are nice, how much and what kind of work is around if you know, etc.
Hello from San Francisco. I hope you know already that we are now the single most expensive rental market in the United States--a one bedroom in my pretty nice neighborhood goes for more than $3000/mo now, which seems completely mentally ill to me, and it's getting worse by the hour. And the market is quite competitive--you will be applying to any...
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>>1110879
Continued...
>>1110879
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Frankly, if your interests are mostly creative, you will probably wind up doing what most of our creative/artsy/freaky types have done over the past decade and end up in Oakland. Oakland has a lot to recommend it--better weather than SF, great restaurants, slightly lower prices (but this is changing fast). Culturally, it's on the upswing, rather than SF, which is getting more and more sterile. And the good neighborhoods...
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Damn thank you for taking all that time to respond so eloquently. It's funny cause since I posted this morning I was asking a few people that have some relative know how about it and everyone's been saying sublets in Oakland or Berkeley, at least to test the waters. People could live somewhere their whole life but I highly doubt most people could describe the evolving social constructs and economic direction that well. What do you do out there and what's your living situation? Just curious because of that maelstrom of bullshit you just delved into hahaha.
To be honest the whole experience would be less about establishing myself into a life long career and more so what you assumed - mostly personal and social betterment and rounding out some edges. Idk I just want to find somewhere that resonates as home and take things a couple steps at a time (although foresight is something I want to keep in mind as well).
I'm digesting everything you said though and took screen caps too haha I know this response lacks in comparison but I'm on mobile right now and damn it all if this screen fucks calibration up every ten seconds.

Side note to anyone reading, what are some stable jobs that coincide perfectly with travel for you guys?

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Hi /trv/, my mom wants to take me on a trip somewhere of my choice before I head off to college. Ive been wanting to head to the middle east/north africa because something unpredictable might happen in the area and I might not get to travel to them in the future. We dont have enough money to go for a trip to Dubai or Qatar or something, so it needs to be a bit on the lighter side of budgets, but we have enough to go to most places in Europe if I change my mind. (which it would be easy to) Most places in MENA have a travel warning in some way, but it's largely "dont go to the desert" for the most part. Countries that go boom-boom often are off the list obviously and Id also like to refrain from going to Turkey or Saudi. (even though I heard its really hard to go on a trip to Saudi Arabia anyways)

Any suggestions? Im open to reconsideration of the travel area, but if I were to go anywhere in the middle east/north africa, where would be the best place to go? Im not going to be making the decision for a while.
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>>1110751
Oh and disregard the more southern countries also listed in the map as North Africa, because I have no interest in going there even if they were ultra safe to travel to.
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>>1110757

Sorry not everyone wants to go to North Europe or East Asia.
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Lebanon, Jordan, Morocco are perfect for you based on your post. The order listed is the order recommended, as they are all interesting, safe and cheap (considering you avoid tourist traps).

>Just go somewhere you aren't putting your mother in danger.

kys, senpai

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American here.

Just graduating now with a decent degree from a decent school, could easily get a comfy office job making ~60k or so.

Problem is, I don't want to get sucked into that shit just yet. I've spent around 3 months backpacking Europe solo, and it was the greatest time of my life.

I'd like to save up some money and just go travel a bit, maybe for a year or more, but I have 2 worries.

1.) Will this affect my ability to get a job after I get my fill? I definitely feel that a year of global adventure would cause me to forget...
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As popular as the nomad route is among young traveling types, I'm currently working towards early retirement in a career path with similar starting pay. Learning to live really frugally while you're in the US, taking advantage of your tax-advantaged investment options, and saving as much as you can would let you retire by your mid 30s in a career that paid like that.
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>>1110605
thanks for the input. I definitely see the appeal in that choice and would definitely be able to save the majority of my income(I despise materialism) and retire quite early. The issue is that I feel I would enjoy traveling in my 20's far more than I would in my 40's, and presumably (hopefully) committed to a family. I'd like to be that dude that has insane stories from his youth about travelling to strange places and getting into weird situations. (I already have quite a few from my short 3 months)
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>>1110604
It will definitely affect your job prospects negatively unless you find someway to make it seem like an educational or progressive trip. You can discuss how you taught English or some science abroad. You can also always BS that you taught whatever your major was abroad and it cannot be checked really... But be smart about it.

My brother took about a year off after college to figure himself out, but he then got a job. Although, to be fair his prior boss from an internship recommended him after he had an unsuccessful...
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Hey /trv/, I'm driving from Pennsylvania to Seattle over 3 days later this week. Do you have any sort of tips/tricks to make driving 12 hours or so a day not awful? How do you entertain yourselves on a long road trip like that?
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Listen to music, podcast or audiobook.
If it's too boring, convince someone to go with you so you can share your boredom.
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>>1110436
Make playlists for certain "moods"
When I have a long trip, I have playlists set up for
>driving in the morning
>driving in bad weather
>driving during sunset (favorite one)
>Driving at night

Makes it feel like much more of an experience, and helps you get there in the moment. Listening to NPR is pretty fun too.
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I did Georgia to Seattle in five days when I got out of the army, and I only stopped for a tiny bit of touristy shit - I went to the big air museum in Omaha, I went to Mount Rushmore, the Indian museum, Deadwood, the missile Silo museum in South Dakota. The rest of the time I was driving, the days I did nothing but drive I covered at least 1000 miles a day.

I guess you could do it in three days, depending on the weather. I was just fine listening to music and looking out the window. Not sure which route you're taking, but I90 through the Black Hills, the Rockies,...
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What do you think the future of travel is? Continued decreasing in flight prices and greater amount of options? Climate change or other factors resulting in a more limited or expensive travel world than now? Supersonic travel being the norm? How about what countries will be hot and which ones not?
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Pretty pessimistic. You look at how Chinese behave abroad. We're going to see more poorer countries become wealthy, and travel destinations will be full of people with even worse manners.
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virtual reality
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Hyper loop

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Does anybody get really stressed out when they go on a trip? Even if it's a trip you've been looking forward to for a long time?

The last 2 trips I've taken, I've felt really stressed during the travel and first day in each location. I don't know why. I mean I like flying, that's something that I've always liked, and I don't get air sick. But both times I've felt sick to my stomach before we had to board the plane. And then once I got to the place I was going, I felt very stressed and exhausted. And I feel like I can't...
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>jetlag

/thread
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>>1109925
dont think about trips too much
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>>1109928

not jetlag. This has happened even while flying somewhere in my same timezone


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