So it will most likely turn out like this?
>Azog kills Fili
>Azog kills Kili
>Azog kills Tauriel
>Azog kills Thorin
>Beorn kills Azog
>Legolas kills Bolg
Well you're a fucking faggot who should have read the book when you were a wee lad
Or you could rub two brain cells together and pay attention when you watch the shitty adaptations
>guessing what is going to happen
I fucking hate this piece of shit "trilogy" and the god awful decision to change/ruin the plot and spice it up/drag it out.
I could barely stand the subtle plot changes in LOTR that turned everyone into fags. At this point it's all just depressing and pathetic.
Peter Jackson can burn the fire filled depths of Mount Doom
I loved it when Rohan saved Gondor, and then the ghosts saved Gondor, because apparently, Gondor can't save fucking Gondor, but a bunch of dead people and horse fuckers can
If Peter Jackson loves fucking pointless cavalry charges so much, why not just add the Swan Knights of Dol Amroth?
>the subtle plot changes in LOTR that changed everyone into fags
yes, if only Tolkein's original vision had been respected ;)
Then you should know that Fili and Kili are the two brothers that die, not a clue who Tauriel is, she's probably that elf slut that PJ added, Azog is the main orc who killed Throins daddio, Bolg is Azogs butt buddy or some shit, and Beorn is the big ol bear man
Skipping over an unecessary plot point that doesn't affect the story is a lot different than making Gollum sound like an autistic retard while fighting with himself, and turning Faramir into an untrusting dick who takes them to Minas Morgul just so we can see one more action shot of the Witch-king before they go all the way back.
> MUH LOTR
If he had made improvements, that would have been one thing, but instead he made pandering crap at the behest of jewish overlord producers who just wanted more ticket sales. That's why Peter Jackson sucks small jew cock, not because I'm some fedora tipping neck beard autist in love with Tolkien
Jackson would have serious balls to remove Beorn beating the shit out of Bolg.
Here's how I see it.
>Azog kills Fili
>Azog kills Kili
>Azog kills Thorin
>Thranduil kills Tauriel
>Dain II Ironfoot kills Azog
>Beorn kills Bolg
That isn't a big troll, though. I'm talking about something like pic related
Dain is the toughest motherfucker out of all the dwarves.
At the Battle outside Moria, he kills Azog (well, in the book atleast) at the age of 32, a feat since that's practically being a babby since dwarves become about 300 years old
During The Hobbit, after Thorin has reclaimed Erebor and the men and elves march upon the gates he sends after Dain, Dain answers the call and shows up with 500 hardened veteran dwarven warriors.
He also took part in the most crucial battle out of all battles during the time, during LOTR he hold against Saurons forces in the north, if he hadn't everything would have been different
Is this the same guy standing there?
Who the hell cares, these movies suck so fucking much only kids and manchild fanboys would care.
You don't give a shit about a single character in the whole goddamn triology.
Looks like meat's back on the menu, boys.
TFW they fucked up Beorn so bad. TFW never get to see a screen adaptation of this Santa Claus looking badass motherfucker.
That part in the book was GOAT comfy but then they turn into like not even five minutes and the dude was like dark and brooding with mutton chops.
Do we know how Thorin died in the books, or is it a mystery since Bilbo was knocked tf out? I can see Azog killing Fili and Kili or whatever then Thorin getting into some final battle with Azog where he kills him but is mortally wounded.
Thorin is mortally wounded fighting Bolgs Bodyguard (huge orcs)
Fili and Kili dies defending him. Beorn charges there, picks up Thorin and gets him to safety then wreck Bolg and his bodyguards
But he was the last of his species. They just did not have him all hung up about it. Nah dude just wanted to run around the night as a bear killing stray goblins and eat honey. Also chill with all his animals
>But he was the last of his species.
By time of the original trilogy Beorn's dead but his son Grimbeorn is the chieftain/ruler of their people (the "Beornings"), at least some of whom still have the ability to shift shape.
Beornings are just woodsman Beorn took leadership of they are not skin changers. And in The Hobbit he did not have a son. I assumed he just fucked one of the woodsman's women which is a scene I paid pay good money to see.
>Ten foot tall man-bear dude plowing the shit out of a five foot tall human woman
I don't know but this shot is in the trailer, it looks like Thranduil is cutting her neck or something, he swipes with his sword and the bloodspecks appear after he cuts her
Who's going to answer Bard's call?
I don't think the militia of Laketown can actually pose any threat to the dwarves.
Peter Jackson didn't care about the Hobbit, he didn't want to do it, the execs begged him and gave him many sheckles. You can tell how little he cared for the project, unlike the deep passion he had for LOTR trilogy. Everything was generic CGI instead of the thousands of handmade individualized armor, chain-mail, weapons, stuff the audience didn't even see. Also black ppl, I'm not even racist, but there were black people in the Hobbit,a decision most likely by a producer. He just let the producer do what they wanted and collected money. You can't blame him.
I do not know why the Hobbit (the book) gets so much hate. How can you just like LOTR and not the Hobbit? You must have shit in your soul to not be moved by The Hobbit. I think it is the comfiest book ever
>thousands of handmade individualized armor, chain-mail, weapons, stuff the audience didn't even see.
It's still there, watch the appendices
>Also black ppl
Laketown is the big market hub of the north. It's not too farfetched that a couple of Southrons were there. There's asians, too.
Once he saw the delicious breakfast deals at Denny's he changed his mind.
Gondor didn't save Gondor in the books m9.
Smeagol/Gollum was pretty much perfect and Faramir too thinking about the fact that he had to face the ring, but still managed to resists. This is a great contrast to his brother.
Wait, you're trolling aren't you.
Guys, I never read the books but from watching the trailers, why the fuck don't the dwarf/elf/human army just fall back into the mountain?
Then the orcs will have to funnel in through the gate where their numbers are useless and can be easily slaughtered by the entrenched defenders.
I'm not trolling, you are you fag. Are you bad at reading? In the book Faramir listens to Sam and Frodo and believes what they say right away. This speaks volumes to his character. In the movie Faramir is an untrusting dick and they make a completely unnecessary and utterly bewildering trip to Osgiliath just to prove what a dick he is. This trip does absolutely does nothing to further the plot, and when you think about how far they would actually have to travel to make such a journey and how much time it would take, it makes absolutely no sense. Smeagol's soliloquy in the book is thoughtful, insightful into Smeagol's motivations, and extremely well written. In the movie it is turned into childish comedy and just makes him look autistic and retarded instead of someone dealing with internal conflicts. Also in the book Theoden is proud once he awakes from the spell and wants to attack right away, but has to be convinced to go to Helm's Deep, and in the movie he's just a pussy that wants to go and hide at Helm's Deep. All of these points are completely unnecessary character reversals from the book and makes the characters look a lot worse than they are.
>tfw you will never see the swan knights of Dol Amroth, surcoats of deep blue, white swans emblazoned on their sucoats, steel armour shining, and wings emerging from their helmets
>tfw all you got was full plate armour infantry running around and dying
Gondor didn't deserve that, Gondor should have been fucking awesome, desperately struggling to hold their ground, but no, we got cowards that ran a lot and got headbutted to death
>how far they would actually have to travel to make such a journey and how much time it would take
That's true, but the ring's power over men is still shown in these scenes.
>but has to be convinced to go to Helm's Deep
By who again? And he didn't want to hide, but rather fight the battle there since it had proven success for earlier generations.
Hmm, the rest actually makes a lot sense, but I still don't mind Andy Serkis as Gollum. It definitely showed his inner conflicts I believe. They really exaggerated him for the Hobbit though.
Really? What the fuck did the ghosts and the Rohan army do then? Sorry, haven't read the book in 6 years or so.
Great, so the true reason for having Bilbo in the story is just gone by the end of the 3rd movie.
If I recall correctly, the ghosts killed a bunch of corsiar faggots and secured the way for a shitton of Gondorian soldiers from southern Gondor to get to Minas Tirith, including Swan Knights
who are much cooler than gay ass rohirrim
The Rohirrim are still there, but play a smaller part I think
Yeah the ghosts showing up and just insta winning everything was BS
I also have an obsession with Swan Knights
>That's true, but the ring's power over men is still shown in these scenes.
That's my whole fucking point!! In the book you can tell that Faramir is made of completely different moral fiber than his brother because he isn't tempted by the ring like his brother was. This is a strong and impressionable juxtaposition. In the movie he is turned into a dick.
"Here was one with an air of high nobility such as Aragorn at times revealed, less high perhaps, yet also less incalculable and remote: one of the Kings of Men born into a later time, but touched with the wisdom and sadness of the Eldar Race. He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow of the black wings."
—Peregrin Took's thoughts after seeing Faramir for the first time
Yeah Faramir is fucking amazing, I'd follow him to death, though in terms of the films, I prefer Boromir, which just shows PJ fucked up
and that Sean Bean is amazing
Yeah, Rohirrim helped a bit, but still probably got fucked over, and weren't actually all that necessary, that entire battle was to show the might of Gondor
>Bilbo zero charisma/uninteresting
You think? Of all the people caught up in this debacle I think Martin Freeman really does deserve the appreciation he gets for his performance.
Didn't the Swan Kniggits arrive before the seige and went inside Minas Tirith? Forlong the Fat did this at least. IIRC the pirate ships were loaded with Dunedain, the three hunters, Halbarad, Elladan and Elrohir.
>mfw no banner of the Evenstar.
Implying Bard drinks milkshake.
700 Swan Knights with the prince were there before hand
There were like 3000 total though, I believe aragon showed up with a party of Dunedain and shitloads of other Gondorians, including more rangers and Swan Knights, which saved the garrison, and the Rohirrim
It would have been fucking great if we could experience something similar in the 3rd movie as the 2nd one, when Aragorn meets the elf officer or whatever. Have Aragorn meet his Dunedain bros together with shitloads of other Gondorian soldiers with different armours depending on where they are from. Then have the swan knights ride with Rohirrim.
Yeah, would have been great, I miss a couple of minor characters too Imrahil being one, and the guard that storms through to save faramir after Pippin tells him that he's about to be burned alive
And one of the things I love most is heraldy, would have been great to see all the different flags and banners, and colours on surcoats
I have to get my kick from Total War and Mount and Blade mods for that though
Yeah I haven't read them in years, I could do with a re read
Here is what I'm putting my lembas on
>>Azog kills Fili
>>Thorin kills Azog
>>Legolas fights Bolg again, but once again it's a draw and they split off because of the tide of the battle.
>>Bolg kills Kili
>>Bolg kills Tauriel
>>Bolg kills Thorin
>>Beorn kills Bolg
I just don't see Dain taking out Azog or Bolg, since he hasn't been groomed like Thorin and Azogs hatred for each other.
Not b8, it was glorious. The orcs are massive brutes with amazing detail and emotive faces. The city of stormwind and dalaran were massive and alive, making the video game look like a lego model. Then we saw a scene of a dwarf firing a rifle standing alongside Lothar, his proportions were perfect, he was squat and broad, his beard glorious.
Lastly we saw DUROTAN, leader of the Frostwolf clan, his eyes tearing up as the fires reflection flickered off the sweat beading on his skin, his expression slowly looking grim as he comforts his pregnant wife. Seriously, this movie will hit every fantasy g spot in ways that no body has seen before.
What character you made? I had a lot of fun as my Dunedain ranger, but the inactivity of the northern nations made me get a bit bored, and it made me sad to watch Gondor get ravaged
Got 2 games going at the moment, my Swan Knight who's struggling to keep Gondor afloat, and my Citadel Knight, who pretty much rekd mordor, and is now helping Rohan while Gondor mops up
God I love that mod
Damn, I got a Dunedain ranger as well! I've also got a Dale captain, and a Isengard Uruk. God dammit when I had to capture an ent in Fangorn, that was fucked up, orcs flying everywhere.
I have to make a Gondor character next.
I've heard Gondor has troubles from the beginning because Mordor is really strong. Also the nazgul scream is annoying as hell.
Yeah, it's a fantastic mod!
You don't get what I am saying at all. The acting is great, but the dialogue used in this scene of the movie is absolute crap compared to what Tolkien wrote. What Tolkien actually wrote for the scene was masterful and would have worked perfectly with the stellar acting and the movie plot. It is quite possibly some of the the best dialogue in all of the books, and there was absolutely no need to edit or change any of it, but they did anyway for the keks.
Yeah Gondor start is hard as hell, you pretty much have to fight 4/5 armies and keeping the likes of Faramir alive is annoying, and fighting in their turf is a bitch due to Nazgul scream
Nothing like leading your 40 Swan Knights/Citadel Knights/Other mounted guys into 200 orcs and slaughering them though, and lancing trolls is amazing
Unless it goes very wrong
Wish there was some kind of LoTR game where I could just go round as a knight, do quests in gondor and explore, instead of being linear of forced into acting (like TLD)
>"Oy Vey, Mr Jackson, we've been hearing rumours you plan to make the Hobbit in two parts and not three?"
"Yes, it's a short childrens book"
>"Oy Gevalt, what a holocaust, Mr Jackson, we are missing out on a third film worth of shekels here"
"It'll be hard to make the source material last two films, let alone 3"
>"A shoah, right here in my office, remember the 2 billion, Mr Jackson, we demand you make stuff up, invent new characters, show popular characters from Lord of the Rings, lots and lots of CGI"
"Yes, my chosen one"
>"One last thing you Goy animal, we hear the dragon has 4 legs... it only needs 2 to walk, many shekels will be saved"
Why haven't they shown any of Dain yet? It will be really weird having the film end with some random stranger as King.
I know Jackson's Middle Earth is famous for its Deus Ex Machina, but that is ridiculous.
>tfw led my grizzled knight band north to save elrond
Still gotta do Rohan and the rest of the north, but I had to pop in for old times sake, couldn't bear the thought of all those master race Dunedains dying in the stalemate
I wanna see him, Dain is awesome