Who here is planning on watching the premier of the new TV Series '12 Monkeys' on Syfy tonight?
The movie is one of my all time favorites so naturally I'll have to watch the tv series. I hope it lives up to series like 'Bates Motel' which I absolutely love.
fuck, this show is triggering my time travel autism hard
>getting all autist about time travel rules being unrealistic in a science fiction show
>implying anyone could even imagine what rules and repercussions would actually exist as a result of time travel
>movie wrapped up things well enough
>no Terry Gilliam
>not like the movie
Because 12 Monkeys is a known commodity that people already know and love. Built-in audience. Not going to lie, if this was called something else I wouldn't have even though twice about it. SyFy isn't exactly known for great programming. Although, it looks like they're trying to change that.
>SyFy isn't exactly known for great programming.
They've, thankfully, been changing that, with shows like Helix and Ascension -- hell, even Z Nation is entertaining.
I'm glad they've gotten beyond showing Stargate and BG all fucking day.
It'll play at it's regular time next week as well.
I don't know. They mentioned it immediately following the show. Said at midnight the second episode will be available for a limited time.
And this series doesn't hurt or affect the movie in any way. It's like fargo, doing its own thing with the same setting/idea
If you get upset just because it's different you're retarded, what would be the value in a direct remake
I always thought that but they must make up for it with the online views or something
Kinda like how showtime leaks it's season premieres for some shows every year, trying to drum up more hype for the series
Most networks are starting to realize to pay attention to more than just ratings, they factor in time delayed viewing, and online viewing through official sources. It won't matter if they tune in next week or not. Also the way Nielsen ratings are calculated it won't affect their ratings unless someone with a Nielsen box watches the episode online and then doesn't tune in
So they're putting the next episode on the syfy site at midnight? I'm not at home now and I wanted to watch it with the app on my phone but it's not up yet
Are they just going to update it at midnight with both episodes?
> 5. How difficult is it to follow the time travel?
Matalas: It's not at all confusing. It always makes emotional sense at the very least. We've tested the time travel pretty hard with die-hard time travel fans and novices, and everybody's on board.
6. How does the time travel work?
Fickett: There's a big machine that sends him back in time, and there's a process, something that goes on inside Cole that brings him back to the future.
7. That seems rather imprecise. Can he go to the wrong place and time?
Matalas: Viewers, like the characters on the show, will be learning the rules of time travel as it goes along. This is the first time that everyone has done time travel, and they're not good at it. They're not good at time travel.
8. Can you actually change history?
Fickett: Time can be changed. That's something that wasn't true in the movie. It is true in our series.
and, dropped. if time can be changed in any way imaginable because of reasons then i'm out.
Just finished watching it, I was surprised it wasn't terrible. The time travel rules are fantasy tier, but it set up an interesting mystery, and it was a pilot that didn't feel like it was shoving a bunch of exposition down my throat even though it gave me enough information to understand who everyone was and why they where doing shit
>Continuum is only getting like 8 episodes more
I love the title of the second episode
I forgot that term used in the movie, but I love it.
>Don't mock me my friend. It's a condition of mental divergence. I find myself on the planet Ogo, part of an intellectual elite, preparing to subjugate the barbarian hordes on Pluto. But even though this is a totally convincing reality for me in every way, nevertheless Ogo is actually a construct of my psyche. I am mentally divergent, in that I am escaping certain unnamed realities that plague my life here. When I stop going there, I will be well.
>Are you also divergent, friend?
He threw a party a few years ago that was open to all time travelers and when none appeared he concluded that time travel does not exist. Maybe in the future he's regarded as a bore to hang out with and no one wanted to break the news to him.
Or maybe in the future he's dead?
Or maybe the invitation for the party wasn't taken in much consideration so in the future when people invented time travel machines no one remembered about his proposal?
That's like reading the first sentence of a book you know nothing about and then saying its a shitty book
Also the first few minutes are the worst, cold just comes off kind of weird and aggressive until he meets her again and starts explaining shit
better than most SyFy shit (seriously how did Helix get renewed?), but I can't un-see the movie, so I have a feeling I'm going to be all "but that's wrong!" about all of the different shit from the show.
>watching Ancient Aliens
>this guy pops up
>lose my shit because I decide he's that guy from Twelve Monkeys
An author that lacks the skill to grab you in the first sentence must be writing a textbook.
This might as hell have been a pilot for a Cable movie, stepping away from Gilliam's crafted worldscape and the fatalist nature of the movie results in time travel milquetoast.
>Is ep2 working for anyone?
It is working fine for me
Typed in my Directv password and everything is playing fine.
Wait, you mean no nuts showed up to the party in hobo clothing claiming to be from da future, before asking where the booze was? How is that possible?
are you high
you're using words like milquetoast - milk on your toast? seriously? - and it's only been one episode. The world was competently established and clearly set itself apart from the movie, not wanting to repeat it (which was a remake itself), but being heavily inspired and influenced by it a la the critically acclaimed Fargo TV series.
I hope to God they put the character Louie in the tv series, I loved him so much from the movies
>Louie: Why would I pull out my teeth, Bob? That's a no no.
>Louie: You sure fucked up!
>James Cole: Where are you?
>Louie: Ah, you can talk!
>James Cole: My name's not Bob.
>Unknown: Not a prob, Bob. Where'd they send you?
>James Cole: Where are you?
>Unknown: Another cell. Maybe.
>James Cole: What do you mean " maybe" What's that supposed to mean?
>Unknown: Maybe means...maybe I'm in the next cell. Another volunteer like you. Or maybe I'm in the Central Office... spying on ya for all those science bozos. Or, hey... maybe I'm not even here. Maybe I'm just in your head. No way to confirm anything.
You're obviously conversing with someone with a superior vocabulary. And although it's not a crime not to know what milquetoast means, one would assume you'd have the sense or at the very least the curiosity to google it instead of making yourself look like a run-of-the-mill pleb.
Fargo actually had things going for it, it looked good and it had characters capable of standing out.
SyFy Cole didn't have any of the emotional punch of Willis' Cole when he found himself immersed in world pre-collapse. You could sympathize with how disparate and terribly lifeless the future was when Willis became enraptured by a simple thing as music. TV Cole gave us "Mmm, cheeseburger."
i was making a joke because he didn't even use the word right, milquetoast is an adjective used about a person, you can't apply it to time travel. He may as well have said milk toast and conveyed the same information.
Just finished the second ep. They're setting up a lot of mysteries and they've got me a little hooked, crazy girl was cool but seemed a little cliche, the whole make the person with all the answers crazy so even when she tries to give the answers it's in riddles or she's mentally blocked the important info, but I can look past that if they start answering some questions soon
My main concern right now is in the first two episodes we've met two bad guys that say they met cole in their past, his future, meaning his future is already played out. So if he was going to stop the outbreak he would've already stopped it
My theory right now on the endgame of the show is that somehow through his tie traveling shenanigans he is a major factor in the creation of the 12 monkeys and causes the plague, and when they realize this he will probably have to go back in time to kill himself before he goes back in the first place, to stop the whole chain of events
Just a theory though
>milquetoast is an adjective used about a person
Rapidly correcting your mistake through the use of online dictionaries doesn't exactly make you come off as witty. Milquetoast can be used in relation to anything and if there's anything worthy of criticism about the poster, it's putting the word after time travel. Although upon re-reading it does sound a lot better the way he put it.
I'm not involved in the milk toast argument, I'd never even heard the word before
But I looked it up and the first two words in the definition are "a person"
That kind of proves you wrong and him right. But hey if arguing about definitions and grammar gets you all hot and bothered go ahead and continue
You getting hung up on a name is retarded, her name has nothing to do with the quality of the show. There are real criticisms to be made, you don't need a good reason to dislike the show, but as far as reasons go that's a shitty complaint.
It will probably be up wherever you pirate your stuff by tomorrow morning. There isn't any other official place to watch it though
Do you have to sign in with your TV provider to watch it? I had to sign in to watch the first ep using their live stream with their app, but I wasn't signed in when I watched the second one
Kim is a better name than Jennifer? what planet are you from. Plus I think they wanted to stick with the J name to go along with Jeffrey.
>Mfw not watching a show because of a name
Not salty at all. The writing could be better, especially with that old bitch in the future, she really had no logical reason to be at odds with cold, by her own logic of he is destined by fate then he shouldn't be able to fuck up the girls timeline
Cole comes off as a bit one dimensional but even in the second ep he's starting to show some growth, albeit minimal.
Cassandra getting a lead on where cole is at in the second episode just thrown into her lap was kind of sloppy too, but I think the girl that plays her is doing a really great job, Im liking her a lot more than I thought I would and it's not just because she's pretty.
They should have got Charlie to play Cole.
I want to see a version of 12 Monkeys where Gary Busey plays James Cole.
Nah I was flippin and saw 12 Monkeys coming up and it was only an hour so I was like WTF!? After watching it it said ep2 at midnight on ON DEMAND so watched it. Specifically sought out this thread cause figured it would be here being a new show in all.
Naw, I heard about the show a few months back and was interested because syfy is finally getting back into making science fiction shows instead of shit like warehouse 13 and ghost hunters
Then I saw when they posted the first 9 minutes, and heard a lot of positive things from critics who got to see the first 8 episodes a few weeks back.
>just found episode 2 on my on demand menu
okay that old guy with the yellow teeth and the flowers. they're going to have him be from some alternate timeline/future or whatever, aren't they? there's no way SyFy can avoid that in a time travel show.
especially since they can't just use the ending of the movie, so they gotta have a tweest.
Well at the end of the episode he runs into cole and says that they've met before, and insinuates that cole gave him the scar on his cheek
It's pretty clear I think that he's one of the 12 monkeys, assuming it actually is a group of 12 bad guys
>The pilot is being written by Terry Matalas and Travis Fickett, who had written for the series Terra Nova.
oh god there's going to be an old sailboat in the desert isn't there
So out of all the movies that inspired tv series which one does /tv/ think is the best (let me know if I'm forgetting any)?
So far I really like 12 Monkeys but I still think it is far too early for me to make a definitive call on it.
But for me the best of those so far has got to be
Yeah my 6th sense picked up on that too. Like he was another guy sent back in time. Thought it was cool that he was one of the bad guys from Last Action Hero. The crazy guy with the yellow rain coat and ax.
There is worse.
Actually I didn't know it premiered already, and because I'm a masochist, time to find out how much worse.
Wouldn't it be fun if in this 12 Monkeys James Cole is his own father, like he has a relationship with Cassandra and she has Cole as her child? That would be interesting.
Constantine is based on the comic, not the movie
But I still don't watch it because it just had to be a fucking network procedural and they can't let him smoke, but the kind of gruesome shit they show on Hannibal is ok for network TV...
>A tagline originally suggested for this film was; "The future is in the hands of a man who has none." This was considered to be a confusing tagline, as it made it sound as though he had no hands, as opposed to having no future.
now I want to see a movie or show about a time-traveler with no hands who has to save the future.
Seriously? Is this a meme? The acting was horrible, I couldn't even finish the pilot. Or are we lowering our expectations because it's a SyFy show? I for one am not wasting another minute of my life on this trash.
It is specifically based on the comics, it probably wouldn't have been popular enough for a show without the movie, but they draw their source material from the comics, they didn't just watch the movie and then make up shit based on that. Afaik the characters and demons in the show are all either from the comics or adapted in some form or another from the comics
It was pretty good for a TV show, especially one on SyFy. Unless you only bother watching the greatest TV series of all times, this show is certainly passable by any standard of quality. As said, the acting is off, but it doesn't have any great faults.