so yeah... pretty underwhelming trailer in my opinion.
> This is the last time I will post on 4chan before seeing the trailer
The implication that the galaxy has gotten to the point where nobody even believes that the Jedi or the Force ever existed is downright bizarre. It's only been 50 years! Aren't there photos and videos in the Star Wars universe?
WHAT IS THIS MOVIE REALLY ABOUT
WHO IS WHO GODDAMMIT WHY IS THERE A NIGGER DOING THE SAME FUCKING FACE
I NEED AN INSIGHT
>Anakin and Obi-Wan were running around fighting a war with lightsabers with the whole galaxy watching 30 years ago
>the Jedi Rebellion is the whole explanation for the Empire existing
>hurr durr we all forgot the Jedi existed
Fuck all of you b8ing fucks. It was amazing.
the villain is gonna be Luke
Corrected, the trailer almost certainly confirms it via his conspicuous absence.
Crazy theory: that creepy voiceover for the teaser wasn't Andy Serkis, but the the former hero (who went on to become one of the greatest voice actors -specializing in villains- of all time), who is now a palpatine-topping baddie wielding both sides of the force to push his own agenda independent of the first order OR the resistance.
Luke not knowing about the Jedi makes sense, he lived in a backwater on a farm his whole life. The officers called the Jedi "a sorcerer's religion", never an ancient cult. And Han was just a dick.
I dunno think about how well informed about shit the average person is on earth today
People just living their lives with their heads up their asses beleiving stupid shit or not beleiving stupid shit
>30 years ago jedi and sith are common knowledge
>rebel alliance literally buttfucking the empire on all fronts thanks to battle of endor
>they all suddenly forget everything and allow a splinter faction to seize sizable enough power to pose a threat.
Is these the Knights of Ren?
Okay Ive been against the Knights of Ren being a mary sue edgy group of sith rom literally out of nowhere to take over the universe
But I truthfully have never considered for a second that they dont have to all be force sensitives. This changes everything
JUST CUT MY SHIT OUT OF THE MOVIE FOR BEING TOO WHITE FAM
>LUKE SHOULD HAVE A NEW JEDI TEMPLE AND JEDI RUNNING AROUND
Or at the very least people should know about the Force. In the original trilogy, there was a famous guy running around with a lightsaber right in the middle of a massive war, and the empire's military was led by another guy running around with a lightsaber.
Boy oh boy did they fuck up the bad guys voice
that was the ONE THING they needed to nail since everyone had such high expectations thanks to Vader, and this is what we get
it feels like nobody understands what made Vader so menacing. You don't need an edgy angry looking mask or a deep bad-guy voice
White guy says "It's true..." as a black dude approaches behind his woman, then he says "...all of it"
He then says "The dark side, the Jedi, the force, it's calling to you"
*black man shown charging up lightsaber*
..just let it in.
Holy shit that was terrible
>I have nothing to fight for
Ham fisted as fuck and a shitty way to start a character. Literally a fucking template.
>Who am I, I'm no one
>I will finish what you started
Killing the emperor? Trying to bring Luke to your side? Vader really hasn't done much
>The dark side is
Wait wait wait why the fuck is Han talking about the Dark Side as if he ever cared about that shit? It's all magic to him and he's never been this melodramatic even in his old age.
Booyega still seems completely confused abd does that same exact expression he's been doing in every fucking scene as if he has no idea what facial expression to make.
>Heroes in the light
>Villains in the pouring rain
Just fuck my shit up.
If the trailer is an indication of the movie it's a cookie cutter movie driven by the action with little emphasis on characters.
JJ will has done to Star Wars exactly what he did to Star Trek
>mfw Kylo Ren is a Vader cultist
>Damn, Kylo Ren is uglier than I thought.
Holy shit Finn is so scared. He flinched like mad, and that look of terror... Kylo is already my favorite.
What if Luke doesn't actually appear in the film and all you get is a robohand and a voice behind a cowl. It makes sense because Hamils so fucked up and all he really does now is voice work anyway
don't forget female luke
>nobody from a desert planet
>dreams of getting to the stars
>finds out parents were important and took part in a huge war in the not so distant past
This is shaping up to literally be a remake
>Wait wait wait why the fuck is Han talking about the Dark Side as if he ever cared about that shit? It's all magic to him
It's been 30 years and he's seen that shit first hand. I'm sure he's come around.
>Lets make the main bad guy look like a massive pussy
Go away, Redwood. You're a nigger.
>Wait wait wait why the fuck is Han talking about the Dark Side as if he ever cared about that shit? It's all magic to him and he's never been this melodramatic even in his old age.
By this point he's seen Luke do it a few times, that's probably enough to convince him.
Racism isn't the worst pf it, more like the sarcastic mock-racism "LETS JUST REPEAT THIS BAD JOKE OVER AND OVER AM I SERIOUS WHO THE FUCK KNOWS TBH FAM JEWS" bullshit that makes this board really annoying. It sucks cuz other than that this is theoretically the best place to talk about movies
So are the Knights of Ren like a bunch of Vaderfags with Kylo are the helm? Cos judging by that shot in the trailer they all look to be wielding blasters/staffs (one of them in the back has what appears to be a giant paddle?), which is more indicative of bounty hunters thn sith
>people that haven't read the summary
Rey is the new Skywalker, Finn is just force sensitive and holds the light saber for her.
Luke doesn't appear until the very ending, when Rey goes to meet him.
My best guess is that after Endor the entire Empire went full damage control. Doesn't make sense though because the ENTIRE galaxy knew (considering the shots of like every huge planet celebrating and tearing down monuments of the empire) So how would they suddenly not know?
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Really, what it means is that in 30 years, Luke hasn't done shit to re-start the Jedi Order like he was supposed to. That was his entire purpose. It was literally his destiny.
The fuck, Abrams.
That's a vision that Rey seas through Kanata.
Luke only appears in the end, when he tells Rey he's her father and tells her to accept her fate.
The speculation goes that in the next film, and because Rey is so cynical, she'll go dark side
I can't believe they are making A New Hope 2.0
Like...if there was one thing that JJ should have been told it's to absofuckinglutely make sure you DON'T remake ANH because Lucas already fucking did that and it's considered the worst film in the OT.
The shot of Driver advancing on Dindu was legitimately cool.
The pirate castle looked like fun.
Oscar Issac is handsome and should be the lead.
Everything else looks like rehash and nostalgia for the OT.
>best place to talk about movies
I'd bet boards like /b/, /v/, and /tv/ have significantly lower average age than the rest of the site. You guys are always going to be drowning in stupid memes and shitposters.
>i can't discuss high level cinema such as Star Wars on my message board
People who play games to have some sort of revelatory narrative experience are fucking retarded. Games are about their mechanics, and in that regard MGSV blows most games out of the water.
Still think Rey's situation at least at the beginning of the movie ridiculously resembles Kirk in Star Trek 09
but then I guess there are only so many ways to start this story
He gets captured by Ren and interrogated but he escapes. He does the Luke sequence at the end and destroys the new super weapon while Rey fights Ren to save Finn after he gets BTFO.
He did, but Snooke's army attacked him.
Kylo kills the boss of the village on Jakku, nobody else.
He interrogates Poe but he and Finn escape.
He doesnt kill Fin and Rey equals him in battle.
The ground sinks under him due to plot armor
m8 im not even crying about that, star wars has always been mediocre
but you cant tell me this board is complete and utter shit now, just look at all the LE CUCK LE NIGGER LE INTERRACIAL
>Dyke and a black man are the two main characters
This is the sign of a movie that has horrible writing, they needed something to get people into the theater and it's pretty obvious it isn't going to be the writing.
Another bad starwars movie, another missed opportunity
new sith goes after luke and wons duel. first trailer he puts his hand on r2 and theres smoke and fire now on this new trailer we see sith walking in village searching luke and one cut doing the finishing blow. its so obvious
Knowing the prequels, the sequels, and the original trilogy are all in the same timeline and canon really fuck with me.
They all give off extremely different vibes and feelings. I just, I don't like all existing together. I don't like Jar Jar having happened in the same universe where fucking STARKILLER BASE happens. It just doesn't work with me. Same with Star Wars Rebels and Star Wars Clone Wars. How are they canon, how can Sabine exist in the same universe as Han Solo. I just don't understand, /tv/.
I need help understanding how all these different feelings can exist in one universe together.
>purposefully excludes asians
>even though it includes fucking Jawas
holy shit JJ, what the fuck...
I thought this whole movie was supposed to be about 'not using CGI and more practical effects.'
Every scene in there looks like some CGI planet or backdrop, minus the desert scene. Even the ships look pretty bad.
Oh well. Hope it isn't going to be shit like the Star Trek movies, but it probably will. Here's to Episode 8.
But...that's not better.
If you're going to change canon, it should be to improve it. Grand Master Luke was awesome. His students were awesome. The Reformed Order was awesome.
Why would you have the main character of the second trilogy turn out to be a complete failure? Just so you can have him parallel Obi-Wan? Shit's dumb.
Yes MGSV had 10/10 gameplay mechanics.
The gameplay itself is 6/10 though because of the terrible level design, repetitive missions, and empty open world.
That plus the story being shit make it a pretty bland game.
>24 hour avatar,
LOL, shit has been gone for so long now
literally gets deleted within minutes
literally the pinnacle of this board, the only reason its even relevant
all three of those things are better than this LE NIGGER LE CUCK LE INTERRACIAL BREEDING GROUNDS meme shit
Except it doesn't
Characters seem to be hands off/secondary
Plot seems to have forgotten it's own movie cannon
Everything revolves around explosions
A goal for discovery in something that is obvious for the audience from the get go.
It just doesn't work the mystery component as we have too much knowledge of the universe
That he's fucked. Seems like he spotted Kylo, busted out the lightsaber he was holding onto but doesn't know how to use in an attempt at intimidation, and Kylo busted out his own saber to teach him a lesson.
>doesn't matter how "nothyped" any of you are, 90% of you will still pay money to see it you contrarian motherfuckers
where have i heard some retarded shit like this before?
oh yeah, that one movie which was insufferably shit. it was a total success.
Even disregarding the EU, it's bullshit just as a continuation of the original trilogy.
The ENTIRE POINT of Luke Skywalker was that he was going to restore the Jedi Order.
Having him fail so completely for 30 years is beyond retarded.
>the terrible level design,
Fuck right off. The level design is part and parcel with its mechanics, and part of the reason the game is so great. Every major camp has multiple ingress and egress points that feel infinitely more organic than the obvious through-paths of the previous games in the series. It's the only MGS game that's actually fun to play.
Instead of Force Choke, Kylo Ren just calmly lowers his hand and Poe just starts losing his shit.
That's something I'm noticing - the similarities are skin deep. They take something familiar and go the opposite direction with it. Like, we expect Luke to be the one who introduces the characters to the Force, but it's goddamn HAN SOLO.
We expect ten thousand red lightsabers, but only Kylo Ren has one.
We expect the Empire to fail, but what do we see the First Order doing? Fucking up everybody's business with cold efficiency and fire. We see one First Order soldier die. We see one Tie Fighter explode. Every other time? The heroes are fleeing for their lives or getting captured. The only time one of them raises a finger to Kylo Ren, like two seconds later he's shitting his pants.
This isn't just a retelling of A New Hope, this is subverting expectations and going somewhere pretty fucking grim by the looks of it. You know what's gonna happen in that trench run?
The Resistance is going to fail. They don't have Leia's support, they don't have Han, it looks like they're barely holding together.
butthurt? also nice bulshit you are raching here...no one is talking about star wars quality...its just too hard for the retards here remember a famous scene(Vader Force chocking his own subordinates) of a Movie series?really?
> Fantastic Four premiered in New York on August 4, 2015, and was released to the rest of the United States three days later. The film received negative reception from critics and audiences. At the box office, it underperformed, earning $56 million in North America
You sound like JJ who wouldn't know good characterization if it bit him in the ass.
All he's ever done are action movies and are thus mediocre in the end.
I've never seen anyone who wanted to go back and watch one of his lifeless shell of a movie. Pretentious prick
Looks like a natural continuation in many respects.
Loved the urban exploration in the beginning.
why the fuck luke did not teach force to others to secure peace in galaxy for generations unless she gone full kreia and thought force benefits no one.
DARTH VADERS 3RD CHILD MOTHERFUCKERS NOT EVEN JOKING LOOK AT HIM ITS FUCKING ANIKIN WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER!!!
Why do you think they're not force sensitive?
Why does this change everything?
Wouldn't it be neat if that guy with the gun WAS force sensitive and could do cool shit with his shots?
hate phantom all you like but lucas had a vision, even if he is crazy.
this movie has no vision, no soul, its a disney/jew production designed to make money though diversity and political correct bullshit
Before I was a little hyped. It's Star Wars so I gave a little benefit of the doubt. Now, after this trailer, all I can think of is meh. I won't pay to see this in theaters like I might've been. I'm going to pirate the shit out of this so they don't get a single dime from me.
>discussing the content of the trailer
Dank meme fam
99%, all the scenes in the trailers are in the spoilers. Poe's interrogation, Finn versus Ren in the snow, Leia and Han's reunion, the trench run, Rey's lack of origin.
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There's barely any racebaiting here, you absolute faggot.
>no Anakin Solo
>no Solo twins
>no Ben Skywalker
>no Chewie heroic death
>no Yuuzhan Vong war
it's too obvious
kylo ren = leia
I knew from the start that this movie would fail.
It's not because of the black guy.
It's not because the movie was bad.
It's because people are sick of reboots, especially in capeshit.
And Fantastic Four is one of those franchises that just doesn't click with mainstream audiences.
No one was asking for another F4 movie.
In contrast it has been a decade since the last Star Wars film and it's one of the most beloved film franchises.
Even if it is garbage and their is an uncircumcised veiny BBC on screen for 12 seconds it will still be a huge success.
I was thinking it would be cool if the first movie was influenced by the sequels and if the second one had some connection to the prequels and we could go back to that lore. I'd mark out if that was the case.
i mean, i know pol is racist, but you can tell jj abrams was like, i will find the blackest least white cranial skull looking guy and just shove him into this role and pat myself on the back for defeating white anglo culture on behalf of lefty jews
>You sure showed me.
Apparently so, I gave you reasons in another post but you were too illiterate to see past the "buzzwords" (which ironically, is itself a buzzword on this website)
>People thinking that's John Boyega laying dead
You dumbasses, that's Han, he's even wearing the same jacket there as he is earlier. They went and spoiled Han's death in the fucking trailer!
People who look like intellectuals should be casted for space movies, not that black guy.
People should have smaller features, not look like a literal gorilla. That black dude looks so out of place it isn't even funny, he is like the exact opposite of what should be on a space ship
Star Wars is filled with aliums of all sorts of shapes and sizes, so no, I don't think a regular looking black guy is out of place. The only thing that tingles my autism is that he's a stormtrooper or tie fighter pilot, or both.
Sorry I thought I was discussing my opinion on a movie trailer in a thread dedicated to said movie trailer on a board dedicated to movies.
I'm not the one whining, you're the one whining because I have a different view than you.
If I'm whining then it's because I'm tired of such a piss poor excuse of a human being like you endlessly repeating the same old bullshit.
Yeah, well, there's an ugly black dude in the movie.
FUCKIN GET OVER IT!
You whine non-stop about other peoples opinions without refuting them withing besides "I'm sick of reading it", you clearly don't know what you're talking about and are just going purely off nostalgia and rage of people actually judging a film based on what we know about it.
It's not just here anon, it's /tv/ in general.
>wahhh muh Star Wars has niggers
>CUCKS right guys?! Kek lel xDDDD
>This is Best Emma
>Elle Fanning is le sexy kek
>Reminder a widely regarded good film is shit, prove me wrong,
/tv/ is cancer now, sad but true