They've finally realised nobody cares.
So, they finally even Sony's console price. But the hardware is still inferior.
I wonder if that is going to be enough to flip the table.
Still not interested on getting any of the "last" gen consoles.
hardware may be inferior but microsoft has more of a premium operating system running. also you cannot forget that the cloud system set up is far better than anything sony or nintendo combined have or are even capable of having.
nah it's real. They're also taking features like netflix and hulu out from behind their paywall
ALL XBONE HAS TO DO IS UNDERCUT BY 100-200$
THAT'S ALL THEY HAD TO FUCKING DO TO WIN THE FUCKING WAR.
MICROSHIT WHAT ARE YOU FUCKING DOING. THAT'S ALL YOU HAD TO GODDAMN DO BESIDES GETTING RID OF CONSTANT ONLINE BS.
Yeah but honestly it boils down to the games. The way I see is I'm not interested in it now but the fact they're making strives to cheapen it is a good sign. Maybe in a year or two's time they will have enough exclusives that look interesting but I doubt it
I don't really care much for the XBox either way but I do hope this sells better, much better than the one with Kinect, just so it can show most people don't want that shit. We just want to play with controllers, preferably without being recorded at all times.
Well they're desperate. I'm scared that this will help them enough to win in NA though which means the fucking Xbone games will again be cheaper than PS4 equivalents when price drops happen.
This was actually the only thing preventing me from getting one, although I'll probably wait until they fix their retarded design and make a slim model that can stand vertically, I have no room for a fucking 1988 VCR on my desk.
>Several months after the launch of the console you can buy the xbox without the kinect for the price of an xbox without the kinect
This isn't a Nintendo fuckup like they did with the 3Ds. This is without the kinect.
Anyways, final nail in the coffin for Nintendo. They should just focus on toys and Pokemon.
>Microsoft's decision to remove Kinect from all Xbox One bundles could be problematic for developers and other entertainment providers, as they are now no longer guaranteed that people who pick up their products will have a Kinect camera. We'll have more on this news as it develops.
I feel kinda bad for early adopters.
>They buy an Xbone at launch for $500 for Tit Anvil
>Eventually gets a Tit Anvil Bundle for $500
>Eventually gets Xbone Kinect-less edition for $400
>within just half a year
It's no wonder there's no hate for Xbox fans on /v/. We mostly just feel sorry for them.
>has more of a premium operating system running
>also you cannot forget that the cloud system set up is far better than anything sony or nintendo combined have or are even capable of having.
I hope you're baiting. Cloud processing won't do jack shit on game's performance for a goooood couple of years, the overall quality of the IPS through out the world certainly does not help. Even with the best connection/net infrastructure, latency will be a hard to overcome issue. Of course, if you're a console tard, latency might not bother you much.
>No Jap support.
Not to sound like a Microshit but why do you fags but over Japanese support?
Japan hasn't made a good game besides Boneretta and Dark Souls in 10 years. Japan is finished, it's over and they are focusing on other things like the DS, Mobile games and porn sims
>inb4 long winded vaporware speculative Japan list.
This is through consumer feedback. Something Jap companies have never heard of.
If you want to know what it is to communicate with the company, try Microsoft, fuck even Sony is more or less Americanized.
Here, I made this for you. It's yours now.
>still have to pay for online
>still is weaker than my pc
>still is an xbone
>premium operating system
doesn't mean shit, the operating system is a windows RT and 8 variant, it does little to add to the performance beyond GUI components
the PS4 uses another BSD variant like the PS3 did, they can make it do what ever they want the same way microsoft can
You still have to pay 15 dollars a month for freeware on Xbox like skype, internet explorer and VOIP that would otherwise be free literally everywhere else
the cloud services mean little also, this isn't anything new cloud services have been around for 20 years its nothing special
well, this only helps strengthen arguments towards getting this console, now.
it'll actually be cheaper in Australia than the PS4 is.
but anyway, expect a counter from Sony to try and up the appeal of their console.
unless they just want to ride this wave of manufactured hype some more.
>Azure servers, which really are the best in the world
its a real woopty do if they have the most powerful "cloud" servers
every NAS or SAN system is all cloud storage by that means
>this only helps strengthen arguments towards getting this console, now.
If by this you mean, one of the many reasons not to get an xbone just got a little bit weaker, than yes.
>Buying a console to play shitty JARPEGS because you are a fucking weeb
>Literally drinking shit because it was made in Japan.
I see Weebs never fucking changed. I thought the Peter Pan syndrome would had worn out by now but I underestimated the mad delusions of a weeaboo.
Xboner owner here.
r/XboxOne's tears are fucking delicious. This is the only thing leddit is good for.
But it still costs $400.
Do you know how hard I could upgrade my PC with $400? Or how much weed I could buy?
Literally anything else is a better use of my money. Fuck the Xbone.
First Sunset Overdrive's disappointing reveal, then this.
We'll need to lengthen this image by E3 at this rate.
Aren't they basically ensuring the kinect is a failed gimmick now? I mean, it was gonna be a slow death anyway, so kudos to them for realizing it, but still.
With a disjointed Xbox One userbase, no serious developer is gonna make use of the kinect. You'll get your gimmicky kid games and indie games that experiment with it, and that's all.
5 threads about this shit mods, time for a sticky.
It's really ONLY because of the IP's they own. I really am upset that I can't play Killer Instinct and the Halo 2 remake but it's whatever.
I've watched people stream before and the snap thing is pretty cool as well. You still have to weigh better looking games vs features/exclusives
It's a toss up really.
Wow i have an idiot friend who bought an xbone. Sold his 360 and 30+ games to get it too. Now all he has is Titanfall. His PC is good too, an extra $500 would have made Titanfall run just fine.
I see anti-weeb never fucknig changed, I thought they would have stop being such insecure piece of shit and grew up by now but I underestimated the mad delusions of an anti-weeaboo.
>Better servers mean less downtime, lower latency, less st generally more reliable service.
not necessarily, those features are generally reserved to NAS systems in conjunction which aren't that rare at all
less downtime is just an IT thing, they probably do have the personnel to handle the maintenance, PSN went down after their entire database got hacked and they stored their customer information in fucking plaintext
lower latency only really applies to the client's upload connection to their servers, every server handles it the same way, latency is caused by packet loss or drop which is usually and should be handled extracurricularly but is often not, like EA servers a shit
>this kills the kinect
Seriously, without this thing attached to the xbone like a tumor or parasite, no (sane) dev would ever develop for it.
And because it's no longer part of the system, devs won't be obliged to use it in the slightest.
Then, anons, who would ever use the Kinect outside of gimmicky bullshit shovelware?
MS just put a bullet in it. A shame it basically cost them this generation to figure it out.
Thats the thing, it screws them in multiple ways AND makes them choking on their own words about the kinect being an "integral" part of the console. They hammered it in about the kinect being the future of gaming and tried to force it down our throats, and now they are going "Haha just kidding guys, turns out you don't need it at all! Sorry everyone who got screwed over buying it earlier!" Now they effectively kill any innovation they can get from kinect, screw over xbone games adding kinect elements to their game (though it seems they are good about making kinect commands optional), and now relegate kinect to "gimmick" status since no one's gonna waste their time on something that not everyone is going to have.
The thing is, they are pulling so many reversals with their console I'm REALLY iffy on considering to get one. It seems they have no idea what they want to do. Still waiting for actual games on either side.
>If I ever meet Phil it'll be his face hitting the concrete.
and this is coming from an xbot? Looks like Phil Spencer is the best thing to happen to Xbox.
WiiU Multi-play bundle, WiiU Red/Green Special edition Super Mario Bros console, two pro controllers one red with an (M), the other Green with an (L), NSMBU, 3D World, Mario Kart 8
would you buy it?
>All those Sony tears of "BUT IT DOESNT MATTER"
Rest of you, Think about this. They announced all this. All what their fanbase and all the fence sitters have been wanting. And did it on the eve of Sony having to eat shit and take one of it's biggest losses in company history and have no hope in hell of a price drop in the next year or two.
AND M$ announced next month 360 owners get Dark Souls, Charlie Murder and SSF4 AE for free to keep forever.
Microsoft just took a gigantic steaming dump on Sony on the bleakest day in that companies history. It's fucking hillarious.
Drink those tears up like a fucking Irish funeral
How can you faggots seriously be hating on this move? It is how it should've been from the start. Now I can actually justify buying the xbone. It at least has games, unlike the ps4 or wii u. There is far better prospect for the xbone than the wii u and it just runs better than any of its competition. Fags may be hating on windows 8 but thats mostly cause you idiots refuse to try it.
>mfw xbone continues to sell like shits after this
I wonder what they will blame next...
>implying the xbone has games
Sure it's tied with the ps4 for nogaems. But at least the wii-u has first party ninty if you're into that shit.
well they are since they were stupid enough to buy a wii-u
I'm an xboner. Why are they pissed? They could have waited. I bought an xbone with kinect in mind as I love voice controls (really good with kinect) and its really nice to have a HD camera for Skype as I'm living away from my family. I'm not mad that they're releasing a kinect-less xbone; on the contrary I'm hoping this convinces more people to get one as its a decent console with some good exclusives both currently and coming soon.
>still considering getting an xbone
Just don't, anon. That DRM/dial home/used games shit they backpedaled on last year is just hiding in the shadows; ready to be turned back on whenever MS wants to. They've even said as much themselves.
Sony's games business is doing fine and, if anything, it will be the one to weather the storm while its other divisions fail. Sort of the inverse of the Xbone division at MS.
And MS did no such thing to Sony here. The Xbone is the device losing its lunch to the competitor products and MS, in an act of desperation, went against what they said previously and are now shipping a Kinect-less xbone.
Quit trying to turn this into some sort of faggy xbone v. Sony thread. We're all just talking about how hilarious it is that MS did this.
Because they were promising us the Kinect was the next big thing, but by making it an optional component and creating a disjointed Xbox One userbase, they ensured no decent developer will ever program for it.
The only games you'll see on it are gimmicky shovelware games that no one will care about. All those morons who bought Xbox One's already spent $100 for a tumor on their console. And it's not even benign... thank you NSA
>AND M$ announced next month 360 owners get Dark Souls, Charlie Murder and SSF4 AE for free to keep forever.
People bitch when Playstation Plus owners get games for free. What's different here?
>online only cant be undong
they undo it
>DRM cant be undone
they undo it
>cant work without kinect
they say you can use it without kinect
>cant be backwards compatible
announce they are working on emulation
>finally say they are getting rid of kinect in the sytem bundles
This screws over lots of devs and its one selling feature over SONY
>said half the cost of a Xone was the kinect
Why did they only drop the price by a 100 bucks?
So Xone is now less powerful and the same price without anything innovated to stand it apart from PS4.
You know I'd get the xbone but I can't shake that feeling that this was supposed to be a multi media machine and not a game console, so even if I do get one when some nice games come for it (Sunset Overdrive, Halo etc) I will be fucked in the future.
>drops the Live Gold requirement for streaming apps
WOW I CAN FINALLY WATCH NETFLIX WITHOUT PAYING TWICE FOR THE PRIVILEGE?
they are changing policies and copying Sony at every turn this gen
>sony has no DRM, they must drop theirs
>sony does not bundle their camera and console, they must follow
>sony doesn't force you to buy PS+ in order to use apps that have nothing to do with Sony services, they must do the same
Say it with me:
how can one be more desperate
these people will literally eat shit if microsoft told them so
Everyone who's played it says Fantasia is really good. If it's good enough, it will sell the peripheral like Dance Central did (And Amplitude's going to fail. As soon as Sony got involved. People were not happy)
>All this booty blasted Sony Shilling
>All this completely wrong since Sony actually posted less gaming profit than Microsoft did in the last few months. >"S-S-Stop laughing at Sony p-pls"
A mans sides have never penetrated the atmosphere at such speeds until I read your post.
>all this anti-weaboo sentiment
>all this weaboo shitposting
You know Sony never had a monopoly on Japanese games right, and that the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan because it had exclusive Idolm@ster games and shoot em ups?
You're both fucking wrong and probably 15 year old fanboys.
>lying this hard
Sony came out and shot that rumor down; you get to keep your games when you get your subscription back, they don't just take it away for good if you lapse payment.
Unless you mean MS lets you KEEP THE GAME outright, like you own it. I call complete BULLSHIT on that one. A company that only today announced you don't have to pay them to access Netflix is not going to do something so non-Jewish.
titanfall > the 0 games on both the wii u and ps4
I doubt you have played it
if anything, /v/ is more like nintendro central. moreso than gamefaqs
it has more games than the ps4 or wii u trash
I'm sad that means I won't be able to use stuff like pic related anymore.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
This, early adopters should always be aware that some cheaper model will be available down the line, it would be naive to think that the same console will be selling for the same price for all year.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
>So that they still make money. That is the reason businesses exist anon.
You are supposed to sell systems at cost if you can and make the money back on the games and licensing. This is how companies succeed in this market.
Spare me your corporate dick-waving. I don't even have a PS4.
And I'd love to see the numbers that say the Xbone (and its immediate services) made more than the PS4's. You are aware that MS includes other sectors in its Entertainment and Services division, right? Ones that help make the Xbone's performance look not so bad to investors?
>same shitty sub 60fps games
>paid online with shitty indie games as rewards
>both platforms can share games
>both platforms can be played offline
>both platforms are filled with microtransactions
Guess that this "we aren't microsoft" bullshit finally died out.
whats going on on this thread?
No shit. The bulk of their profit comes from software and accessories.
They aren't selling the consoles at such a low profit margin because they're charitable. If the consoles were priced any higher, only a small user base of fanatical retards would buy them.
Reminder if you're hyped about Sunset Overdrive you're fucking stupid
They made Fuse, it looked good in trailer but it became total shit
they can't admit they bought inferior product
B-but it's part of the experience.
Talk about damage control.
Good news for Xbros, i guess.
Still, i am not getting one, maybe i will get one 5 years later just like 360 to play the few worthwhile exclusives
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
>OH JOY THEY ARE FINALLY DOING WHAT EVERYONE ASKED THEM TO DO SINCE GOLD CAME OUT.
This is not based in any way, this is desperation cause the model they were using was driving people to SONY.
They ignored us for 10 fucking years about the paywall shit.
>the cloud services mean little also, this isn't anything new cloud services have been around for 20 years its nothing special
Cloud as a concept of server client communications has existed for 20 years. We haven't seen huge datacentres full of computing capability in such magnitude or distribution before in history.
So fuck the Kinect anyways I'm moar interested in the rumors that XBLA Geld subscription won't be needed anymore for Hulu, Netflix and shit.
What aboot NFL Gamepass and NHL GameCenter? That might be a reason to fire up my 360
>cost of kinect was 150+
>they are now overcharging for inferior hardware
>ps4 still has way better hardware
>xbox one's entire framework was solely for kinect, which now you dont even need
goes to show you how fucking clueless microsoft is
I couldn't really imagine my xbone without the kinect, and people won't realise that without actually owning the kinect.
Thinking it doesn't need it, or you'd prefer it without it is just blind judgement.
But no, I'm not bummed at all, glad I've got mine, been worth every penny so far.
Holy shit, what's the fucking point in this underpowered TV TV SPORTS "console" existing at this point at all? That piece of shit was designed around the Kikenect. Also what about the people who bought that shit, hoping they would get actual games that took advantace of NSA's little camera aside from Rare's shitty jump and wave mini games?
At least Nintendo sticks to their tablet controller and announced they will try to implement it even more and make use of it in each new game from now on. That deserves respect. They don't drop it like a hot potato just because some wind is blowing in their face at the moment.
This just proves Microsoft doesn't fucking care AT ALL about video games, its consumers and fans. It's all about short term profits.
Instead of adapting to the situation and making the best out of it, which includes the Kinect, they completely fucking rip out its roots and the justification of this console to exist in the first place.
Now if you are an Xboner I implore you to truly think about this fiasco and whether they are doing this for your sake or just to save their asses.
I haven't had any issues. Load times are fast for me.
The performance keeps getting better. Lots of updates. Shit was a train wreck for the first few months.
Still needs a lot of work, and I haven't seen any games that look terrific visually.
But then I go back and look at games like F.E.A.R. for the 360 compared to something like Bioshock Infinite, Im sure games will improve a lot. Never on par with a PC obviously.
External hard drives are coming, backwards compatibility, and DX12 (please let it make a difference).
I like mine as my living room console. I would much rather have a gaming PC, but I honestly prefer playing games with people I know over Steam friends.
If I get to a point where I have a lot more disposable income I would love to join the mustard race, but th Xbone works for now.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
I love playing anime fighters and was really disappointed when they dropped support for the 360. Newest Blazblue went only to the Ps3 and I'm willing to bet the new P4A will probably do the same. Sucks, but I guess the sales weren't worth continuing to make it multiplat.
Let me guess. You are going to yell "MUH ANDROID ROYALTIES"
They were in Software licencing all the time and the analyst claiming it shut up after Microsoft pointed it out. Hardware is literally just Xbox and Surface. Launch quarter was $411 million and Surface didn't make money. Meanwhile Sony made only $172 million off their launch.
All can be seen in both Microsoft and Sony's quarterly reports which are available on their websites
This has been a public service announcement from >>>/biz/. Please do not try to drag too much autism over tonight.
I guess I did need to rephrase, if you renew PS Plus, you get your games 'back.' But for the time period you are not subscribed, you cannot play your previously PS Plus-acquired games.
I was unaware this was not the case for Bone. Thanks!
Of my time playing LIVE I've only met two nips. They said xbox is barely known in Japan. He just bought one because he loves shooters and Halo, and Mass Effect.
Microsoft? Clueless? I thought forcing people to use a tablet UI on a desktop was one of the smartest things they ever did!
And for over a decade, computer users have been slaving away at the Start Menu. Thank god Microsoft was there to free us from our shackles!
>So fuck the Kinect anyways I'm moar interested in the rumors that XBLA Geld subscription won't be needed anymore for Hulu, Netflix and shit.
can't that new google chromecast thing do all that and only costs $35? You could pick up a used ps3 for that too. Fuck maybe even an
ouyait has more games than the xbone.
Except nintendo. There is no rule that says that you have to follow that retarded revenue model. It only really works with minimal competition. The PS2 did fine when it was top dog, the PS3 raped sony's wallet. Its too damn risky.
Its actually not, but you probably havent even played the game. let alone play it on the one
The game was clearly designed more for console experience. Similar to COD. Resogun is trash
Microsoft exclusive lil buddy.
>>xbox one's entire framework was solely for kinect, which now you dont even need
Not to mention no one will even bother with Kinect now when it's entirely optional. Before they least had the excuse "well, everyone owns one, so we might as well do something with it".
Buyers remorse would strongly imply I regret buying one.
Lol you are a dildo and you use dildos
>if you renew PS Plus, you get your games 'back.'
That was the best thing for me.
I like to make sure I add the stuff to the cart and lock it in. I spent 2 years without PS+ Bought 3 months beat the games in my back log and let it lapse again. I like to think of it as like a rental membership.
The bone is no longer a non-starter for me. I can see an impulse purchase in the next two years.
I will never own a WiiU because of the shit tablet. And that thing is selling used for less than the last gen consoles.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
Took too long to copy psn plus, everybody has gotten their ps4s already because of this. Its already begun snowballing like it did in the early part of last generation with the xbox being the clear choice because of the difficulty to develop for the ps3. game companies are already making the ps4 the default demoing console for cross platform games
"As we've said from the very beginning, we believe Kinect is an absolutely integral part of the Xbox One experience."
Xbox 180, ladies and gentlemen.
Inferior to such a tiny degree it doesn't matter. If you care about the minuscule difference between the two you would have a gaming PC.
The real difference now is going to be games. Do you want Titanfall for Infamous?
Ahahaha, oh shit. I can't believe Microsoft is doing this again.
Remember XBone announcement? Sure, they beat Sony to revealing their next-gen console, they also put the specs and price out, letting Sony beat them if they wanted.
Now they're doing this right before E3. If Sony has any sense they'll announce price drop on stage.
How do they keep making the same fucking mistake?
>been worth every penny so far.
Worth every penny so far? You price being able to do things with your voice that could be done with the controller that is sitting in your hand anyway at one hundred fucking dollars?
I wonder how much you'd pay if Microsoft wiped your ass for you.
Isn't the new P4A already confirmed for the 360 though?
What else is missing? Turbo versions of old games? Yeah, big deal really.
Where's your turbo edition of Bullet Soul, btw?
When the did I say they are doing it out of charity? Stupid /v/irgin morons. Try building a gayman PC with all the functionality of those consoles at that price. You can't.
Anyone who who compare the $400 console hardware to PC that cost so much more are die hard PC fanboys with the mentality of a diehard console fanboy.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
It's good that they finally listened, however they've lost me as a customer due to all the bullshit they tried to pull with it initially. Can't wait til mario kart comes out and I'll grab a wiiu.
H-How horrifying! I never went to reddit (not even once, mainly because I had no reason to), but it's like a 4chan board filled with retarded tripfags.
That post brought back some of the love I had lost for /v/.
Smart TVs are seriously underpowered and have no apps.
I own a Samsung Smart TV and while the idea is great and all the realization of it in practice is lacking to say the least. There are only handful of apps for it, low amount of memory means that it has issues even playing Youtube shit without buffering every 2 minutes and the number of apps hasn't grown in a little over a year since I had the thing.
At this point in time something like a Chromecast, Android TV or whatever is far superior choice to a Smart TV.
It has its perks, Plex is seriously awesome but in general that technology still needs to mature.
And quite frankly I don't see any steps being taken in that regards.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
This is literally the most wrong anyone have ever been
Based CDPR telling it like it is. Now that Xbone is 400 bucks, no reason to enjoy superior gaming system, as 1080p is just some bullshit sony thought up of to help market their shitty system
>because it had exclusive Idolm@ster games and shoot em ups?
That is exactly why 360 was the otaku console for few years in Japan, with visual novels and all that crap. But then Idolm@ster exclusivity stopped, and PS3 version even got more DLC than 360.
In later years none of smaller Japanese devs were making games for 360 anymore.
>Try building a gayman PC with all the functionality of those consoles at that price. You can't.
Because Sony's in such dire straights they can't afford it
On top of that, 12 hours and this board gets inundated with
Also Morpheus needs the camera. So at E3 Sony have to sell their stupid spy camera to the masses.
Actually lol this is reking sony more and more by the minute.
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
>the Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
you just made my fucking morning
>something something xbox
>LEL IMPLYING I WANT A NSA SPYBOX
>microsoft removes NSA spybox
>erm, err, my old arguement doesn't fit anymore after saying it 1000000x to shitpost, I KNOW
>GRAPHICS NOW MATTER
Just you wait
tfw I got a bag of trah for free
Blind girls are moé and best girl you faggot.
Deaf girls a slut
>Sony can't afford to!
If you're a dolt and take their financial postings at face value maybe then you'd think that. Realistically it'd make a shitload of sense to do a $50 price drop if it means they sell 1.5 consoles for every 1 console before the drop.
And what? Sony's camera has always been an optional attachment and they don't need to push it.
Honestly anon, you're grasping at some titanic straws to attempt to shit on Sony. (For seemingly no reason.)
>Those Twatter comments
>"Can I trade my kinect in and get a refund?"
>"Can I give my kinect back to Gamestop for $100 back?"
Today is a glorious day, rejoice my friends. Rejoice together as one against this common enemy.
>old ceo gets shitcanned
>new one makes big changes because he was brought in to make big changes
>people freak out
man this new ceo is tottally doing a 180 on the stuff that old one that was told to fuck off for fucking up xbox said!
/v/ was right again. Anyone who decided to buy an xbone is getting blown the fuck out.
>Listening to micro$hits lies
Cool, that probably means it'll be 300 used.
Release a new fucking Battletoads and I'm sold.
And most people don't own a gaming PC, so they will buy the stronger console for multiplats instead.
Nah you misunderstand me. I ain't getting an xbone, but if I have 360 already, and I do, should they remove XBLA requirement for like Gamecenter app then my 360 becomes useful again, which it hasn't been in the two and half years its been since I built a gaming PC.
Right now I'm watching NHL and NFL on a tablet or a PC, but if I could watch it via 360 on my TV, without having to pay extra I'd switch in an instant
>DAY ONE emblem by his name
Typical PC faggot logic, in a couple of years the next gen console price will drop in price and you still won't able to build a PC with similar specs at that price.
Eat shit you stupid PC fanboy. I own a gaming PC myself yet I don't see my self wanting to fuck my PC. Something is very wrong with you disgusting PC humping faggots. You people are worst than vegetarians.
It was so painfully obvious, I can't believe anyone actually bought it.
It's even more obvious now how much bullshit they were fed.
>KINECT IS A PROMINENT FEATURE, XBOX ON
>Get the Xbone without Kinect for $399
SO PROMINENT THIS FEATURE
>PS3fags will never EVER get Punk Gothic
Remember, Microsoft slowly sucked the life out of every industry it touches.
not imo, i hated all playstation controllers before with a passion and love the 360's, but the changes to the PS4 controller are pretty good and I was able to get past stick placement pretty quickly.
PS4 controller is a huge improvement and I like it
Well fuck, looks like I'm getting an Xbone over a PS4. Neither are great but at least its got Killer Instinct and Halo coming out soon. And PS4 is getting...?
This only matters if they also announce at E3 that they're dropping the price another $50. Matching Sony won't save them.
Kudos on lifting the paywall though. It only took 8 years or whatever. And remember when the new Xbox lead was saying IT'S ALL ABOUT THE GAMES GAMES GAMES?
I only go to r/XboxOne for news, you fucking fag.
The pro-Kinect bullshit that's posted every fucking day there is cringe-worthy, and they can finally drown in ass devastation.
I only go to r/XboxOne and r/Halo, and that only started 6 months ago, and I've been here for over 4 years.
Well thats shit. Now they can never make anything ground breaking with kinect as it would make half of their customers angry. The new kinect really could have had real potential in the long run but this really kills it. Never gonna get an xbox one because of all the backtracking they've done. First always online and now this. I'll probably get ps 4 later down the line for them jrpgs though.
I don't get how they're only dropping the price by $100 when the kinect is half the cost of the system itself.
Either way nobody is going to buy this shit. At least nobody who wasn't going to anyway.
>Xbox 360 did very well in Japan
>why is this allowed?
It shouldn't be at fucking all, considering what is going to happen when MS shuts down the servers for all this shit within the next decade. You do not buy a console that will not function in the future. Imagine if you were told that your NES would suddenly not play any games by a certain date. Or for that matter your fucking PS3. One generation ago saying this would get you laughed at. "haha anon you are NUTS, they wouldnt implement that!" Look where we are now.
So they effectively fucked over every early adapter that didn't want kinect to begin with.
Regardless its a weaker system, they would have to do a fuckload more than an even price and gold changes to match the install base of the PS4/
They should lower it to $300 even if it means taking a loss on each console, lord knows they would make it up in Live sheckles.
They would kill the Wii U more than it already has been.
Kinect is only $50. That's how much they're selling it for separately.
So 1 of 2 things are happening:
1) They outright lied about Kinect
2) They're taking not-insubstantial losses on each system/peripheral sold now
>Nintendo's Wii U is their worst selling home console to date
>Xbone already had a pricecut in some regions and Microsoft is trying to salvage it
>PS4 gets hype from Sony tweets, yet monthly sales data isn't divulge for some shady reason
and they say the console market is fine
She'll just take off the helmet in new comics
>no mandatory Kinect
This changes everything. The Xbox One is now inarguably equivalent in quality to the PS4.
As a matter of fact, the only difference between the Xbone and the PS4 RIGHT NOW is that people on /v/ will actually defend the PS4.
>Buying a console after this
Do you not see the amount of regret and anger radiating from people who bought the xbone?
You'd have to be retarded to even think about getting one now.
I wish instead of having the kinect be this bulky camera box, and instead of just getting fucking rid of it, they made it just the microphone and voice detection. Cause that part works SUPERBLY well. I love it. But everything else about the kinect is a fucking mess and or joke.
This has been my exact thoughts since the moment I began lurking this shithole.
I fucking hate this place. Only here because I actually don't like the Kinect despite buying an Xbone at launch.
Weeaboo shitposting has encompassed this board. I got banned for making a post a while back saying that there should be a /vj/ for Japanese Vidya.
Good thing boards like /pol/ and /tv/ resent aspie weebs.
Does this mean that sony has to actually try to win the console race now?
I was getting tired of them riding on microsoft's launch blunder while releasing forgettable exclusives and still come out in the lead.
I'd consider buying one if I couldn't get a PS4, and I'd totally get a PS4 if the online was free and the controller didn't feel like a kid's toy. Wii and PC master chimera reporting; enjoy your shitty generation, faggots.
She's going to have bandages around her head because she's blind now.
Nobody cares about old games so that's not an issue.
Homever, scamming honest consumers like me by forcing us to buy device whose support will be dropped is intolerable.
I hope this turn into a shitstorm so I get my money back for that useless toy.
But the Kinect lives! There's no reason to kill her.
Are you really asking why cloud computing is allowed? Are you that dense?
>It shouldn't be at fucking all, considering what is going to happen when MS shuts down the servers for all this shit within the next decade.
All that will happen is the multilplayer servers will no longer work, i.e. like every other console that had its multiplayer servers shut down. Why is this so doom and gloom this time around?
>You do not buy a console that will not function in the future
All 3 "next gen" consoles will function after their servers are shut down.
>yfw Sony ~adds~ their Camera and keeps the price at $399
>touts it as "We actually add value, rather than take it away."
The xbone and piss4 are both currently garbage.
There is nothing worth playing on either of them.
The wii-u is worse then garbage because it's basically a last gen console with nothing but rehashes no third party support.
Pc is filled with nothing but pixelated indie shit.
Gaming is over. Everyone go home.
DA CLOUD is used for PROCESSING and some devs will, I guarantee, use it on make or break mechanics of some games, and they will cease to function the day MS shuts down the cloud servers.
Thank you based drawfag. You should probably draw her in a hospital bed being visited by Don Mattrick saying "I've made a mistake"
>(apple) multiple times
>revolutionized pc industry
This was going to happen and its a shame Microsoft were the ones to do it, they robbed, and did many things that should be illegal.
And thats why we have been at a halt for over 20 years
>Does this mean that sony has to actually try to win the console race now?
Yes, now let's hope they weren't retarded enough to believe they could continue to be lazy fucks, expecting the PS4 to sell on its own just because it's not the Xbone.
Healthy competition is always good for the cons