This is the top headline for BBC's E3 coverage
Not VR tech
Not even Call of Duty
This is what people want to talk about
Its okay if you replace all the women with men
Sure, why not.
I saw a video on Youtube about booth babes at E3, but aside from that, I've heard nothing. And I've basically been on /v/ since E3 started this year.
Just cosplayers, booth men, and mascots. Here is /v/'s favorite.
Tell me more.
I just went to BBC and didn't see this anywhere.
Just Forza, Destiny, and "PS4 Steampunk"
I think it's weird there's nothing about Pac Man when Time Magazine is running that one.
apparently one of E3's biggest hyped games is a game that no one has made a single thread about
Journalists= shills, essentially unofficial PR people for ALL companies instead of one. Right?
Gender politics in vidya= stupid fucking shit, nobody cares about it for real (except feminists) because women make up such a small percentage of real game players. SO...
Game journalists are doing the equivalent of forum sliding in real life, not just clickbaiting. Why? It takes the focus off REAL critiques and debate, like "why are we getting another fucking dull piece of shit AC game a year after the last dull piece of shit AC game?" and "Why don't you stop selling us half a game for $60 you pieces of shit?" or "This is the next-generation of consoles, so why are games struggling to be 1080p, 60fps like they should've been 5+ years ago?". It's a distraction, it keeps people arguing over shit that doesn't matter while the things that DO matter get relegated to "entitled loser neckbeard basement dweller" status in the mainstream. Men complaining about men wanting to enjoy shit made by men for men....so ridiculous it catches everybody's eye, and it's done by the same people who unironically feature attractive women doing lame webshows on the front page of their websites to attract horny male viewers.
/pol/ pls, you're embarrassing and don't help the fight against SJWs.
welcome to the wonderful world of mainstream medias in general!
Never mind the fact that we are printing so much money that the system will collapse, I wanna hear about chick fil a being anti gay!!!
Because i'm 99.9% sure this is all viral marketing.. They're going to "change" one of the characters into a girl (even though they were one from the start) and say 'look-, we did it for you all!" and then get positive advertisement.
This man works at Naught Dog on the Uncharted Series and before leaving Ubisoft for ND was the lead animator on ACIII. He says that Ubisoft is wrong and it wouldn't be hard.
It doesn't even make sense to say "it took too much work" when all they have to do is reuse the character animations for the PSP Assassin heroine that got a HD rerelease. The excuse would have been valid with the Brotherhood reveal trailer years ago, but people did not fly into a tantrum over this years ago.
You must be comfused. The real world doesn't give two shits about Nintendo. Sure on NIntendoGAF you see people non stop spamming but in the real world no one cares for your baby crap.
Ubisoft's conference was bad but it wasn't for the reason these people are clamoring over.
It's good to know that somehow everyone has programming knowledge, cost and time management experience to be able to say what can and can't be done in a game. It would sound ridiculous coming out of the mouth of people who make complaining a part of the their job with no real game development experience. It would make them look like outright fools if they didn't have any credibility at all.
I don't understand how one can be so shallow as to judge the quality of a character by their skin color or gender. It just doesn't make sense to me. When I play a game I identify with characters based on what they say and do, not what they look like. I don't even bother with character creation in RPGs, I just pick one of the defaults at random and go with it because it doesn't matter. It seems like the people arguing for this sort of thing have something to prove, like they require self-validation due to some assumption that the world thinks less of them when the truth is that we're already a step ahead in that we recognize how arbitrary superficial characteristics really are. Ironically the self-proclaimed progressives are the ones stuck in the past.
On the bright side my intense hatred for the current state of the video games industry has convinced me to make something so great that all publishers go bankrupt because people are too busy buying my shit to even care about their marketing. I abandoned my accounting major for this. It's gonna happen even if I go broke and die in the process. So is Psi Ops 2. One day.
And then the next day moot will fix these retarded house captchas. What the fuck man. I've been sitting on this post for ten minutes and all I get are numbers and static.
what about voice work? what about the animations that feminazis will undoubtedly bitch about because they're just going to reuse the male ones?
after left behind, naughty dog can go suck a dick. They're on the same road as bioware now
this is really abstract coming from someone with cred. its like saying ryu's arm costed 1 million dollars to make or something.
If woman are so upset about the lack of playable female characters in video games, rather than complaining to straight white males to make more why don't they do it themselves or encourage other woman to do it?
>tfw I was the only
george foreman grillon my animation course in college and went on to work in the gaming industry as I always wanted to despite my tutors and "gurl gamer" friends telling me I couldn't because the industry was too sexist.
the only people telling me I couldn't or shouldn't were almost exclusively women. the irony.
My question is, why is feminism specifically attacking gaming? What's so special about gaming that needs pandering to gays, females, and now trans? I'm playing a fucking video game for Christ's sake. I'm Iranian and not once have I ever thought, "why is an oppressive white male the lead character?" I'm playing a game for the gameplay, not some shoehorned political agenda.
Societal changes. More dudes being gay, more men turning to into NEETs and otakus, more men interested in spending time with videogames than women.
They feel threatened, basically, because more and more men are finding it easier to live without them.
I feel bad for Neofaggots like you who have to come here to senselessly bitch about Nintendo because the moderation is too strict for you to do it over there.
Keep up your delusions because >muh sales though.
I actually think it's incredibly lazy to have 4 of the same character. It's wasted potential, especial when you have many notable black people and woman. I don't by there retarded to much work explanation.
If they had just said "It's just designed that way" or "We just decided to make them that way" That would have been fine.
When they inevitable change it, THAT'S when people should get upset. Injecting stuff for the sake of pandering is always insulting.
You and I both know they did this on purpose, and already have the models and animations ready. They're going to unveil them in a few weeks and be praised as the heroes of video games for pandering, when they planned it all along.
You know this.
No, I've known plenty of gay people who were hardcore gamers and some chicks, too. They NEVER pointed out why there's no female characters or gay characters. They actually find it tacky or annoying because it's a misrepresentation.
>she thinks it's a cop-out
FEMINISTS GETTING BLOWN THE FUCK OUT RIGHT NOW
R E K T
but /v/, you told me you didnt mind "equality and diversity." oh, you thought they were using the actual definitions of the words? silly goyim. you have much to learn.
>woman in high position tells girls to stop whining and do something about it
>girls still blames everyone but themselves for not getting what they want out of live
This shit isn't even exclusive to race or gender.
You don't understand. It's not the gay gamers or the female gamers who feel threatened, because they are part of it.
The ones who feel threatened are the women outside of videogames.
As much as I hate the Assassin's Creed franchise now, that statement is justified.
You'd literally have to make a new skeleton model for females, make new animations appropriate for female anatomy, pay more women for voice-over work (or go the Bethesda route), etc,. etc,.
>B-but you could just use an NPC model....
Not when you're using a fully functional and operable character model, you can't.
oh my fucking god.
When I heard screaming across the hall as my neighbor beat his girlfriend I almost didn't call the police because my sociology teacher had me so convinced they wouldn't take me seriously
Luckily logic prevailed and I called 911, but seriously. They're teaching people to be helpless victims
>it's necessary to be critical of its problematic or pernicious aspect
God this rustles my jimmy like nothing else
Who the fuck does she think she is to what is or isn't a problem? Why does she think she can arbitrate what is and isnt ok?
No because eventually someone will cave in and make a game that appeases these SJW tumblr feminists and when no one buys it and game developers realize they're just a vocal minority things will go back to the way they were.
You know, I hate feminazis for blowing this shit out of proportion, but it's ubisoft's fault for having literally the worst response in the world. "We dont feel like it. Fuck off. Buy our games"
>You'd literally have to make a new skeleton model for females, make new animations appropriate for female anatomy, pay more women for voice-over work (or go the Bethesda route), etc,. etc,.
it's almost as if they have a developer team paid to do all of this, but yeah multiple characters/genders/races is not a common feature in AAA titles.
That person is serious too. Most hilarious thing I've seen since forever.
And I bet they actually think females make up 50% of gamers too. Take away smart phone app shit and that number would dwindle to below 10%.
That's because the majority of game developers and people who actually play video games are straight white males. If woman and minorities and gay people actually started playing and making video games they'd have more representation in them, but instead they'd rather just complain to straight white males to do it for them.
Man, you gotta be shallow as fuck to not enjoy a game just because the main character doesn't have the same gender as you.
i was being sarcastic you dumb fuck
>it's almost as if they have a developer team paid to do all of this
>Not design team
You dun goof'd, anon.
I know on my screens dropping to 720p to try to boost triple screen framerates on a single 660 looks like complete fucking ass while 900p is livable, but that's because it's pixelated not blurry.
Seriously I'm not regretting ditching that site. I never actively posted and mostly lurked and they still managed to aggravate the shit outta me. Seeing some of their screencaps posted here and I'm reminded of how awful that place is.
I've managed to convince 1 dev it's just Ubisoft's stupid management and bad budgeting and not some grand sexist agenda, but I don't think I could do it for many more (especially as the key seemed to be he envy of Ubisoft's budget).
>Making a video game
>Make four characters that you think people will enjoy playing as
>Put your heart and soul into the work
>HEY, TAKE OFF HIS PENIS
>YEAH! I WANT A VAGINA
>WHAT ARE YOU, GAY? FUCKING RIP HIS DICK OFF
Come on, seriously. As a
writerthis offends me. It's fine that you want female player characters, but to just change a character to fit your liking? Come on!
Oh my god, the woman is basically telling the girls, man the fuck up and apply to enter video game dev, and then the cunt of a journos says wait that's counterproductive, you need to encourage women to bitch more, not actually do something.
It's okay, Nintendo fills the void.
they just took one character and copy pasted it 4 times. i fucking hate sjw pandering as much as you do but this is lazy
>Why don't you make the games that you want to see?
>Because the industry is male dominated and sexist!
>What are you doing about it? Studying programming and planning to get a team together?
>No! I'm writing blog posts whining at them to do everything for me!
Holy fuck, the holy fucking grail, a Female Executive in Gaming, tells this cunt off and the retard insults HER? The person THAT ACHIEVED THE FUCKING DREAM?
For not agreeing with their backwards fucking ideology?
I'm sure it costs a little more than a few hundred bucks to create new 3D models and animations for over 700 Pokemon and make a new 3D engine for a game series that has been traditionally 2d.
The engine ran like shit though.
If that guy is talking from a business standpoint, he's spot on. Other than that, this is being made into too much of a political issue. Why do women think they're rights are being threatened by what these companies are doing?
I work at a company in the same vein as games and have done animation retargeting, and let me tell you, this is complete and utter B/S. A main character for a big game like ACreed probably has hundreds upon hundreds of animations. Even if you were to somehow magically slam the bones to a female stature and reprocess each and every animation procedurally, you'd still have to worry about tons of them requiring cleanup work, since the difference in hips and shoulder length would likely cause some issues. Men and women have differences in gait during natural movement. It would look completely half-assed and unacceptable for such a big-release game.
(not to mention dialogue, character models, textures, altering any applicable story elements). This guy is clueless.
Are you trying to say that just because the characters are all French men, they are all the same? cause that's racist. I don't see why black characters need to be injected into a story about the French, who are white.
>hand feeding the SJWs the attention the crave
>Having only male characters is artistic integrity
I think getting upset about a lack of female characters is fucking stupid too, but no. There is nothing to do with with artistic integrity here. They were too lazy to make a female character and stupid "feminists" got butthurt about it, let's not pretend otherwise.
What the hell man, feminist were complaining about the avenger poster where there is only one girl and she is showing her butt. They bitch how the girl is just an object for guys to droll over while the guys are all in powerful assertive poses to show dominance. Yeah remember that movie contained Thor, which is a fucking success with the ladies, the girls and guys in the poster were merely doing feminine and masculine poses respectively because humans are very sexually dismorphing unlike fucking lemurs, they should put that in their little brains.
When will Putin come to liberate the decadent west from the poz?
Nigga please. They had an article about some new horror game and asked the question if games were too scary now. Then actually implied older horror games had no atmosphere and were nothing but jump scares (they used silent hill for this example) and went on to say how horror in games was, "Evolving and maturing".
Fuck em. All they're doing right now is shitting themselves over frances nationalist party winning the EU vote anyway.
>IS NAZISM ON THE RISE?
>FASCISM IN EUROPE RETURNING
Meanwhile, militant far left groups like revolutionary front in sweden go on ignored. Despite being the ones starting violence most often now.
BBC are fags. Don't know shit about video games and too busy shitting themselves over europe being fed up with lax immigration policies to care.
gay dude reporting, I know several other fagets who all have the smallest care about gay representation. We all started playing vidya long before we had any idea there was such a thing as being gay, who the fuck cares, we just want some god damn vidya and that's it.
That should be the platform we run on. Gays for Games, a movement created to turn attention to the lack of any good games in recent years.
Jesus, these feminists should just make their own company and make the games they want.
Even though we know that would never happen, women are too selfish to run a business properly.
There was a story of a feminist opening a publishing business for movies cause she was sick of men. All the women did was bitch, moan and bicker with one another. Steal money and stuff from the office. The business closed less than a year later, the lady who opened the business was out like $200 million dollars.
Why are most females so bad at controlling their emotions?
Who. The. Fuck. Cares.
I would have no problem playing a female Link, but when you start telling game developers to include female MCs or they are sexist you are an enemy of art and one step away from fascism. You are no better than a Tea Party member, a Neo-Nazi or an Islamist.
Why the fuck do people still care about Assassin's Creed? Someone explain it to me, it doesn't make any sense. I get why people would want to like it when they first heard the sales pitch, but you'd think people would have figured out that it's shit by now.
why is gaming journalism so fucking stupid fucking goddmn sometimes I think I'm gonna have a fucking stroke just looking atdue.3,0-4ri0(JS<)Eis-0eeok..!_(*_IUOOEHLL
>master craftsmen means slave owner
Number One is fucking ugly. What were they thinking?
I realize you guys are on a holy crusade against the feminists and Social Justice Warriors, but this 'controversy' is actually awesome
>blaming women for the lack of women
IF THEY DONT WANT IN, WHO'S GONNA FORCE EM
>Make an entire Ass Creed centered around a black female protagonist
>Then take that very game and port it over to consoles so that it can be played by even more people interested
>Constantly displays powerful, independent women in both historical roles and made up plot roles
>Has had female assassins in multiple games and allows you to train them just like the male ones
>Criticized for not having a female in the role of a generic co-op character
I'm not a fan of the people that make the series, but fucking hell people this is ridiculous. I swear to god, unless a female always has a role as the protagonist and is featured front and center in all gameplay/trailers AND is perfect, without any weaknesses a company will be shat on.
I give up. I thought these idiots would at least have some basis for these claims but now it's just them searching DESPERATELY for something to complain about. It's not even an issue anymore, they're just trying to stay relevant in an industry that constantly changes its focus.
>there are people that don't play video games and try to associate with my hobby
These people should be shot.
So it's Tremulous but with less players?
Why the fuck should they? They're paying people to create a game they want to male. If I or anyone else wants to spend more than $100,000 on creating a game then fucking let them.
>not caving into feminists
>not caving into anti-homosexualists
Ubisoft seems to be purposely trying to create a shitstorms with their new games, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if they are the origins of the hate.
>not letting your customers advertise for you
It's Madden if Madden was about Assassins in different historical set pieces.
Why didn't people kick up a fuss over previous games having male protagonists? Plenty of girls enjoyed playing the Ezio trilogy because of the character himself. So why is having white guys, the second time in the series, as the protagonists such an issue now?
Thanks a lot, Anita
Pretty hard to find unless you look for them.
>if I were to do it again, I'd definitely employ men. In fact, I'd probably employ only men.
How long until these sjws keep pushing developers buttons to the point that they cause a massive backlash and the devs go out of their way to exclude female characters and other minorities from being in their games just to spite them? I know some devs will forever pander to them, but the big guys like Nintendo, Kojima, Kamiya etc probably wouldn't put up with that shit.
>Where will you be when the jewified gaming industry finally dies and the last bastion of gaming is on Nintendo and PC.
this cancer will stick unto us I might even age and be old as fuck, 4th and 5th wave feminists will ruin everything
>Literally make an entire game surrounding a black female protagonist
>SJWs are pissy at them
They're just complaining for the sake of it now. There isn't even a point anymore, they're just being retarded.
That's kinda neat. Is this what everyone hates him for? Games have easter eggs referencing other games all the time, and this one is not trying to be funny and it's not obnoxious.
Pretty much what other anons have said, and because it's an easy tool targeted at 20 somethings that they can easily use to push a far left agenda. Also, feminists hate the SJWs, and apparently so do social justice advocates. They say SJWs are turning everything into a joke in the eyes of people and making it harder to push for their ideals or whatever because SJWs make everyone anywhere near those topics look like idiots. Then again SJWs don't call themselves SJWs so who knows whos talking about who without actual examples.
Entertainment medium targeted currently for the most part at 20 something kids, most likely in college. Guess where far left radicalism breeds itself?
The journalists are cowards looking to justify their years spent in the industry and trying to make their jobs look more important to the world at large then it really is (This is the very definition of pretentious.)
Companies willing to latch on to them because it makes them look good and provides them a cop-out excuse calling everyone bigots when criticized.
In short I guess, because there are a whole lot of people who are really desperate to seem important.
Madden has decent gameplay (apparently, I've never actually played it), it's just rehashed to hell and back. Assassin's Creed is fucking garbage. I don't understand how combat that awful makes it into any finished product, let alone one that's such a cash cow.
>WAAAAAH, WHY DOES THIS VIDEO GAME HAVE NO FEMALE PROTAGONIST?!
>WAAAAAH, THIS GAME IS SEXIST!
-People who don't play video games
Worst part, most North American publishers/developers will listen. The only thing holding me back from changing my hobby are Eastern Europeans/Japan not giving a fuck.
The same people bitching about no females are the same people who complained that nigiri can pull off a sexy assassain/pirate cosplay.
I had never heard of it until I came to /v/. I'm starting to wonder if the reason /v/ sucks so much is because a large subset of its users are migrants from sites such as this.
Who needs booth babes when you have qt Jews orgasming over Captain Toad
>Best friends girlfriend complains about this shit
>Constantly talks about how much of a gamer she is
>Hasn't played a game since Wind Waker on the Gamecube
Video games are dead?
The're whining because they're not cozy enough.
How do you make them cozy?
You don't. Someone will always construe some form of oppression from any given work. SJWs with different focuses even turn on each other on the regular basis over this shit.
It's useless to even try.
Don't woman dig sausage fests due to fujoshit art and whatnot?
I'd gladly take a token female character if it meant getting foursome r34 of the game. Especially if she sways when she walks.
I'm with SJW on this one, fuck you guys.
Why hasn't this been brought up to them?
You have this, plus a series that swaps out who you play as almost every game. Arabic, Italian, Native American, African American, and the person the story is fully about is clearly middle eastern.
If you wanted proof they'd never be happy no matter what, this is it. It's not about helping any movement. It's about control. They want to control the industry through fear of being politically incorrect. That if it steps out of line even once, a bunch of fucking college kids in an existential crisis who need to latch onto a fucking political movement to find meaning in their lives, will descend upon you via social media.
>listening to NPR today
>beta white boy speaker kept correcting the steam boat driver to say "boys AND girls" instead of "boys"
>he just kept saying "boys"
I laughed. No fucking girl wants to be out in the middle of nowhere driving boats. Even for 150k
>I don't like playing games, I just like to look at them!
AssCreed 2 came out in 2009. Feminist gurl gamers weren't as vocal back then. In just five shorts years they've managed to seep in through the cracks of the video game industry like termites infesting a home and eating away at its foundations.
>>beta white boy speaker kept correcting the steam boat driver to say "boys AND girls" instead of "boys"
what the fuck is the context
also i stopped reading NPR when they started publishing waaaah sexism shit
don't remind me, where everyone is a fucking super-star and no one's opinions can be invalidated
Why can't a female monster make for a compelling antagonist? Maybe I want to feel strong, empowered, and yet also be a woman at the same time.
Murder a hunter, lay a couple of eggs nearby, go evolve in the corner, sneak up on another hunter and drown him in my menopausal-monster blood.
Why? Why can't I do this?
Except it's not just "attacking" gaming? Film and television have been criticized for years for terrible representation. The difference with gaming is it's a lot worse because in the 80s and 90s it was arbitrarily decided that the most important demographic was males aged 10 to 25.
It was ported to PS3, 360, and PC.
Also, I like how in that BBC article, every other twitter post is about video games but that one, and of course kouchera's.
>E3 notes: I want more tattoos
>too many dudes are makes me uncomfortable
jesus christ that blonde girl is so insecure, all that fidgeting
>Able to manipulate men and ambush them
>Fights against slavery
>Entire game focused on her
>Ported over to consoles for even more people to play
Apparently making an SJW's dream the main character in an entire game isn't even enough. Nope, lets all obsess over the fact that random boring co-op characters with barely any role seen so far don't include a woman in an old French society.
How about people who wanna make games with female protagonists make games with female protagonists and people who wanna make games with male protagonists make games with male protagonists and people who wanna make both make games with both?
Too rational for these people?
Well, /v/ since you always bitch.
I used to play all types of games when I was young. But now that I'm older I've to be more selective, as do we all.
Things is, I'm tired. Unless it's a game I really want to play (TW) I'm not going to support this sexist industry.
Fuck them. Don't want to represent us fairly, won't get my money. I won't even pirate your game. Simple as that.
The game isn't great, but, yeah. It is a problem with female players. Sadly, most complain and complain, but go for the AAA male oriented game anyway, instead of support the ones that dare to feature a female protagonist in a new IP.
It's clearly presenting Toledano's opinion as bad.
The entire ending paragraph is just the author delegitimizing everything the expert just said, and repeating the "women need help to get places, not just equal opportunity" mantra of feminists.
Man don't even get me started with that faggot.
>mfw I've never seen a feminazi
>mfw I live right near Fanshawe College where they would supposedly congregate
>But now that I'm older I've to be more selective, as do we all.
All I do is play assfaggots and counter-strike, only 2 or even 1 game per 2-3 years hypes me up, and even then, it can turn into a massive festering pile of shit (see Thief reboot, amnesia a machine for pigs, etc.)
With all the threads popping up on The Phantom Pain, i'm feeling like a kid again. Thank god for nippons and their sincere love for gaming, nintendo too
This is what gets me the most. The gender thing I can SORT OF understand, though it's ridiculous how big of a deal they think it is. But race, seriously? In that fucking setting? FRANCE WAS NOT FUCKING MULTICULTURAL AT THAT TIME, WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED THAT THE CHARACTERS ARE WHITE? Anita complained about this as well and it's just too stupid for words.
If you give them what they want, all you do is show them that they can impact you. Note that CDPR has basically told these people to fuck off whenever they've bitched and that mostly stops it. They still express mild disgust and whine about Geralt not being bisexual or whatever but you don't get crusades against you if you demonstrate strength.
Of course you haven't seen one. They wait until they are online for that crap. They are the equivalent of that guy who exaggerates how fucking awesome he is and how many fights he's won online, but is a complete bitch in real life.
I know it's a function that almost all social systems have online these days, but blocking/ignoring is the most obnoxious shit.
>Someone disagrees with me?
>Someone is criticizing me?
>Someone is stating an opinion that isn't just mine?
It makes it where everyone can keep this disgusting hugbox where only people who suck them off can actually say something.
Like I said, I know it's there for a reason because some people can spam or just be over the line. But it certainly isn't being put to use for that much now is it?
I think having at least one woman would be cool because of the french revolution. The whole women's march on Versailles would make perfect reasoning for the position too, hell you could even make the assassin Charlotte Corday or something, since she actually assassinated marat.
But whatever, im likely not gonna play the game and if i did i wouldnt think of how much im losing because of all the men, so i digress.
I paraphrased and made a mistake. The fact stills stands you're bothered by a game with a lot of guys because "Sausage party" and "want the girl to be in so we can have foursome R34".
You're the faggot everyone knows is a faggot except him.
If the game isn't that good why the fuck should anyone buy it, regardless if the main character has a dick or a vag?
I'd rather have devs make a good game before focusing on pandering to one demographic or another, but pandering is how you get sales, so whatever.
Fracking industry is basically inflating wages of barge operators. He was encouraging people to go out in the middle of nowhere and make all this cash. He was emphasizing boys going out there (because no shit what girl wants to be one) and the npr guy was getting all uppity and shit. It was hilarious
Art by based Skottie Young.
Sounds like you got blocked the fuck out.
>/v/ keeps asking why this is happening
>says lel back to /pol/ when they get a straight answer
You guys need to accept that your enemy is the Zionists. They've funded everything that is making your life miserable to date, and have forced societal changes that have broken the first world.
> In the game's co-op mode, players will have custom gear but always view themselves as Arno, Unity's star. Friends are displayed as different characters with the faces of other assassins.
Because there are assassins other than just the Protagonist, and the assassins aren't all male, except for some reason in this game they are.
That could be the case. I myself haven't been on /v/ for long but at least here I know that people post what they really want without the fear of upsetting biased mods. I mean it was just sad how I could immediately realize that people on GAF were afraid of expressing their true opinions and had to post sheep-minded crap. It gives them the idea that they're the civilized members of gaming community and should be held on a pedestal you know?
It has something to do with the faux nerd culture of the early 2010s. Time has seen so many subcultures the youth has engaged in. White suburban kids pretended to be punks or gangsters. Nowadays, pretending to be a nerd is where it's at.
Nerds are the rebels of the early 21st century, but they are unlike many rebels before them. The rebels of the past were attacked for their ideas and actions because they were ahead of their time - only in hindsight people acknowledged their achievements. It's different with nerds. They seem to marriage the idea of being progressive despite being respected and even financially stable. Look at Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg or John Carmack, to keep it vidya. And even though Edward Snowden had to flee into exile, he is widely respected. All of that appeals to the common suburban white kid: You get to be a rebel while maintaining your boring suburban lifestyle.
Being a nerd in itself is associated with a certain lifestyle. Comics, movies, videogames, probably computer stuff. Did you notice which fields of entertainment are increasingly targeted by feminists in recent years?
It's only logical for feminists to invade those hobbies. They view themselves as righteous fighters for equality against outdated norms. At the same time, they are mostly sheltered suburban kids who have no clue about the world they live in. Nerds, I mean actual nerds, used to be socially stigmated. To compensate for that, they have created a new stereotype that lingers even below nerds: the fedora wearing neckbeard.
>don't care about lack of heroes with color
>visit gaming websites
>be told I should care because white oppression
>still don't care
>google search author behind these articles
>chubby white guy in glasses or pigface white woman with a history of Neo-feminist work
Why do these disgusting liberals feel they need to champion people of color? I never asked for this.
Because they are omegas. White-knighting to the maximum degree in hopes of acceptance and rewards.
You know the answer anon. It's because they're idiots.
>The same people the invented the most depressing sandwich, the toast sandwich
>It's literally a piece of bread between 2 pieces of bread
Yeah, who cares, dude.
>Problem of not enough games aimed at women: Can be solved by women learning game-making skills and making games that they want to play (you know, like Japanese women did)
>Problem of batshit insane SJWs being treated with any validity whatsoever by media outlets: would require the entire industry to suddenly change its nature
SJW-tier logic there.
Because they're secretly racist and sexist and think blacks and women can't do anything and need help. they probably also do it to feel superior to those who are apathetic to 'their cause'
Because white people are guilty about shit they never personally did to people they never met in the past. Oh and if you say any of that shit to them, they will call you brainwashed and fight even harder for you. Isn't that great?
>Karl Marx described this relaionship as one of "oppressor and opressed," comparing it to that of "...lord and serf"
YES, THAT'S LITERALLY WHAT IT IS
OH NO MY MEDIEVAL FANTASY GAME HAS AN IMPLIED CASTE SYSTEM
Since when did game industries become sexist? They've always been creative outlets. Just because it doesn't fit your agenda for what a good game is, all of a sudden the company is sexist and there's some sort of conspiracy against women? How ignorant and entitled can you be?
It's funny because if you were to tell them you don't give a shit they'd just come back with, "Wow, you have a lot of internalized-racism."
Same shit with women. If they say they don't care if the character they're playing has tits they're told they have a lot of "internalized misogyny" and are just "trained" by society to not care.
If you don't agree with them, they say you're part of the problem. If you're the "victim" and don't agree you're just being mind controlled into saying it.
For every criticism, a new way to deny fact or evidence.
/v/, what offends you more?
- Sjws making a retarded >much soggy knees arguement over no female co-op avatar, or...
- A billion dollar company telling us making a female player model doubles development time?
This is the problem with most of /v/. You folks are so up in arms over the Anita's of the world, you've lost site of the real issues. You have a video game giant releasing rushed rehashes with diminishing returns in quality and making money up the ass off them-having the audacity to cite budget and time contstraints in the decision to exclude something as innocuous as a second character model.
The greediness, laziness and incompetance is astounding, but it's the contempt for consumers to actually say that excuse out loud that gets me. Forget the female bit. This is ubisoft telling us that a second player character model is too much trouble for them. But not only are we not addressing this far more heavily than what some clickbaiting feminists have to say, there are many among us actually defending ubisofts position on this.
So from here on out let us not pretend that we are in any position to speak on the state of the industry when we're crying SJW! while ubisoft publicly pisses on our heads.
> /v/ argues that tokenism is the real discrimination
> /v/ argues that the protagonist of a spin-off game should act as a token character for the series
White men are still a minority around the world and in the Anglosphere, yet a majority in games. Of all the arguments against representation, "it's actually perfectly fine and peachy keen, and totally representative of real life and real people" has to be the dumbest.
>Tfw I'm gay and I don't give a single shit about gay rep in games and "OH MY GOD NO GAY MARRIAGE IN TOMODACHI LIFE!!!"
>Tfw I fucking hate forced romance, especially gay romance, like in Bioware games, because it always sounds phony. If your game's not a dating sim, don't fucking bother adding half-assed romance options.
Holy shit now we just need to combine this with that stupid artisan toast thing from LA
>This is an image of a toast sandwich, shot from the side. Sandwich was made and photographed by me, Ryan. It was okay
>It was okay
What a horrible comic. Where's the joke?
>My skin is white
>Be told I'm an oppressive bigot because of my skin color
>I'm actually mostly Latino
Isn't it racist to claim that all people of other cultures/skin colors are ____? I thought we were supposed to treat people how we would want to be treated, not jump down their throats for what people long dead did.
Is that JUST toast?
Is sawdust "just okay" too? What the fuck.
>One stupidity is more stupid than the other, so stop obsessing over the other one!
Not how it works. One is more vocal and in the industry's face which in turn effects more developers. And just because one is more disgusting doesn't make the other less of an issue.
We complain about both, this thread just happens to be about this matter.
>tfw family lived through and escaped the horrors of communism
>tfw you still to this day cannot stand the enlightened college freshmen that just read Marx and think Communism is the way to go
I hate all these people who gain a little knowledge and think that entitles them to champion a cause. The road to hell isn't paved by good intentions. It's paved by lousy implementations of them.
I truly cannot tell which incident you are referring to, because on /v/ there was plenty of namecalling and "slander," but also there were a few nuanced critiques of how they handled the ending and how wildly it differed from what they promised. But then again you live on a planet where a Nazi comparison constitutes a serious argument, so we may be incapable of communicating in any valuable way.
Everyone knows the company's statement is just an excuse to shut these cunts up.
I'm all for artistic integrity. If the game was supposed to feature an all male cast, then I want them to stick with it, even if I myself may not like the idea. After all, I don't have to play the game.
I see, you have too many issues with your life, I shouldn't have bothered you with pointing out how unfunny your meme was. Please get the help you need, because the chip on your shoulder is too big for me to carry for you.
Now that I think about it I don't know either. It feels like it's just a fad at the moment
I wonder who could have started such an uproar that gives a game such a huge amount of pre-release buzz. Especially when they "fold" and include a couple of female characters.
WHO COULD BE BEHIND SUCH A THING?
>tfw also black and agree with everything you said
I'm pretty sure well off white libruls are in truth some of the most racist people there are. They believe that minorities are helpless and need superior yet kind white people to champion their cause and support them. I'm
Australianand back when I was in school, I went to an event once where schoolkids from all over got to debate political issues at a parliament building. The topic of Aboriginals came up and I stood mesmerised as a bunch of preppy white kids from rich backgrounds argued passionately for how the noble Aboriginals need their support after decades of racism. The sentiment might have been okay if all of their proposed policies didn't consist of treating them like fucking toddlers that can't actually be expected to run their own lives.
You ever watched that movie Crash where the young white rookie cop was disgusted by his veteran partner's blatant acts of racism and reports him to the police commissioner because he thinks he's a good guy and he's above all that racist shit, but then later on in the movie he accidentally shoots an unarmed black guy and dumps his body out of his car and flees the scene because deep down he's as racist as the guy he was chastising in the beginning of the movie? Yeah it's kinda like that.
I'm a grill and this shit I keep hearing about SJWs and feminists attacking games makes me want to kill myself more and more.
One of my "gurl gamer" friends said she won't be buying the new asscreed because no gurls and she hasn't even played any of the other games in the series. She doesn't even know who Jade Raymond is.
Fuck this gay-SJW-infested earth.
>Ubisoft gives in
>includes a female character, doing assassinations and shit, whatever
>you will have at least one retard screaming it's not okay to portray women as violent
You know it's gonna happen.
>some larger (and dumb) point
THIS HAS TO BE FUCKING ILLEGAL
HOW IS THIS JOURNALISM
VIDEO GAMES ARE DEAD /v/
I'VE NEVER WISHED FOR THE CRASH
BUT I WANT IT TO FALL
I WANT IT ALL TO FALL RIGHT ON TOP OF THOSE FUCKING SJW AND WHITE KNIGHTS' HEADS
VIDEO GAMES HOLY SHIT
>using the word nigga
I don't know, I think there's a terrible double standard that damages the credibility of anything black people say when they take offence in one occasion, but use it as a term of endearment in another. You undermine yourselves...
>WHO COULD BE BEHIND SUCH A THING?
Seriously, I'd normally agree with marketing bullshit these companies do but no, this is just idiots screaming idiotic shit. This is what they do, they scream and whine and the companies just let it happen since it gives them advertisement.
You don't have to market your games anymore. Just put something in that may not appeal to literally everyone and bam, controversy.
ignore the other replies. the true answer is cultural marxism. it is a take over of every institution, industry, etc. by left wingers aka modern marxists. this is how they gain power, careers, etc. if you disagree with them, youre a racist. they dont have to build anything, discover anything, or practice anything. they just have to call you a sexist bigot and theyve got the job and the power.
pic related, theyre doing the same thing in the tech industry. all the women who have the top recipients of donations are just speakers about diversity in programming. they dont actually program themselves.
>They believe that minorities are helpless and need superior yet kind white people to champion their cause and support them.
they generally don't believe this stuff on a deep level, they just believe that it's what good people believe, and that they're good people.
>haven't played videogames because you like them (i.e. not just so that you can talk with the guys) outside of facebook shit since before you entered adolescence
>won't spend several hundred dollars annually on vidya for years to come, which a female-oriented side to the industry would need in order to financially support itself
>still whine about muh representation
I'd like to see the AAA developers try to give these SJWs exactly what they want, full marketing budget and all, just so that they can point directly to the initiative for evidence that the consumer base for the types of games that they're asking for barely even exists.
>so stupid you don't understand how to even use the word newfag
>as soon as someone questions you, go off on them
You're not fooling anyone. You think you've found something cherished and dear and old, and you use it as a means of trying to assert yourself as an "old dog" on 4chan, like you're the last of a dying breed.
Please lurk more and stop showing your ignorance, you're shitting up the board, and no one wants to have to report you for low quality shit posting.
>tfw using "mah nigga" with my black/white friends
>tfw nobody cares because we're all friends
I think rather than pretend the word doesn't exist we just use it more so it loses all meaning
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>Every single ass creed game with PvP multiplayer has had female characters
>no one gives a fuck
>introduce coop and not include a female character while the
>its the fucking end of the world
im all out of rage
i just feel, nothing now
>A GAME HAS NO TITS
These people are more aware of whether a video game company has women, gays, and minorities in their product than are probably aware of the passing of a law in egypt just a little while ago finally making it its own crime to sexually assault a woman rather than blanketing it under a slap on the wrist and a warning.
Yea, let's whine about how entertainment has tits rather than focus on places in the world that actually need help with this shit. I'M A FEMINIST, so long as it doesn't inconvenience me too much or make me leave my safe 1st world life. Faggots.
The feminist movement is not a unified body of hairy yelling lesbians who all gather in the Grand Dworkin Cathedral in White Plains, NY every year to flesh out a plan for the overthrow of the patriarchy and the emasculation of the American male. Pretty much every self-identified feminist has different beliefs. TERFs (Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists) believe that trans women are men pretending to be women, thereby subverting femininity somehow. As their name implies, they are not part of mainstream 3rd wave feminism, which places a premium on "intersectionality," which is the idea that the struggle of women is intertwined with the struggles of other oppressed groups.
I'm talking about this thread and nearly every other thread on this topic where the focus is on being butt-blastered over feminists and not ubisoft's allegation that a 2nd character model doubles dev time.
I know a woman who was literally told by her university professor that he failed on her on exam because he didn't believe there was a place in business for women
So she fucking did something instead of bitching and is now a CEO of a multimillion dollar company
That's what you do. You work hard and prove them wrong.
>all this work
They clearly just put bread under a broiler.
>google "artisan toast"
I love artisan food and hipster restaurants, but come the fuck on.
That's what bothers me most about that site is that literally none of those top donated people do anything, they just talk about promoting and getting diversity in there. Even those guys n those pictures are just talking about how they "make the world better" by "promoting" things that they don't really do.
That site has such potential to help people and fund worthwhile projects, and instead it's bullshit camwhore-esque money begging without actually having to do anything for the money.
And the money fed to these obnoxious fuckers feeds their egos to the point they literally shit post all over the other users of the site like it somehow gave them a voice and some basis of power to mandate how others think.
You know how you should have reacted?
>HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY DON'T IDENTIFY AS WOMEN?! YOUR CIS SEXISM DISGUSTS ME!
Right, it's a divided body of hairy yelling lesbians who gather in various places across the country calling for the overthrow of the patriarchy, the emasculation of the American male, and the eradication of every other group claiming the name 'feminism'.
This guys response honestly. I'm a mixed mutt of a beaner and a whitey living in LA. Everyone says nigga, no one gives a fuck unless you wander into the super poor black areas where there's fat BAHAMA MAMAS always yelling about MAH BAYBAY. No one gives a shit otherwise.
>go up to san francisco
>they use the word fag more than LA uses nigga
And no one gives a fuck.
Why Assassin's Creed anyway? There are plenty of games that were shown that they could complain about, so why is everybody up in arms about this particular one? It's not even a good series.
Its fucking history, it makes sense for there to be no female protagonist because of the nature of the time period, look at the last game, it had strong female characters in there and the same for liberation
If they had a female protagonist it would be like them changing figures like George Washington in games to female just to pander to the feminists
Well since this thread gunna die anyway, have some links you may find an enjoyable (angering) read.
Also, this is a thing
>changing figures like George Washington in games to female
does it make me a hypocrite if i'm okay with japan doing this for fanservice but not with a western company doing it for political signaling
I used to be liberal as fuck. I still am to some degree. I believe in a lot of the same things the average sjw believes. I just feel like they've become insufferable cunts that think they're entitled to have every game pander to them. I don't think there's anything wrong with a more diverse representation of different races or whatever in video games. But that's not what they're after, what they want is flat out tokenism, which isn't really a step up from underrepresentation.
Even someone who believes a "50/50" idea probably thinks that alienating female gamers will cause many male gamers to also backlash and stop patronizing the product out of some social awareness and social justice creed.
But everyone knows that gamers don't have any gumption for social justice or any of that shit, when a gamer boycotts a game and claims he won't be buying it, we know that he'll be the first one playing it on release day. Look at every internet boycott of anything ever.
Ubisoft is one of the three emperors of Western gaming alongside Activision and Electronic Arts. EA is already pusing LGBT progressiveness, while Activision is virtually invincible to media attacks. Ubisoft is still a soft target; and if they can change Ubisoft to reflect their views, that might mean extending their influence into their product line aimed at children - like Skylanders. And when they can get to the children of the next generation through Ubisoft, they would achieve a great victory for themselves.
The former. The latter is a valid excuse. It's a completely trivial feature in this case. Also, they said it would be double the work of creating the player character assets (model, animation, sound & voice, etc.) which is true. It isn't like you can just take the male rig and reskin it to a different sized, different proportioned model and expect everything to work without a lot of modification and then clean up.
Except that's from a comic about cultural appropriation. If you've ever been on Tumblr
And someone here beside me must have to get that panel, you know that there are plenty of people of color unhappy about representation. It doesn't prove that the majority are, but it's definitely a thing, and choosing believe one person's experience and not someone else's based on whether or not they validate your biases is basically willful ignorance.
There's nowhere left to flee.
Canada is falling to the Asians and Europe is on track to become majority Muslim.
Australia has a chance, being an island, but no one wants to live in that shithole.
no, fan service is acceptable whilst pandering to feminists for no good reason is not
Why are they are they targeting asscreed so much? If anything they have been adding women in since the begining
>Claudia in AC2/Brotherhood/Revalations
>All those female assassin's in pvp
>Ezio's woman from Brotherhood and Ceserae's Wife
>Ezio's woman from Revalations
>All of the female characters in black flag
And at the development problems, it would be a challenge, interactions for a female character in comparison to male would have to be different, not only adding a backstory that would make sense for a female to be so relevant in that time of history
Well a lot of people tell you that you shouldn't get involved in any way. And oft times it's true to some degree. Calling the authorities, that's good. Actively stepping in and challenging someone is not.
But so many people don't see where the line is drawn.