any other macfags? i wish i could actually play the good games on this sale but theres not shit. Fellow mac users, what games do you play?
Dwarf Fortress is what I play when I use OS X. Or I use my damn console since that's more comfy anyway.
Wine, bootcamp or a console. OS X has even worse performance when it comes to games than GNU/Linux.
actual op here, i havent postd in this thread once
i have regrets honestly about getting the mac, but now that i have one, i was just looking for recommendations on games to get on it. its a shit 2006 macbook that i got in 2011 for like 300 bucks. itll probably be killed by windows, so i was looking for games to play. stop bashing mac and just recommend me some fucking games
What the fuck is the point of such a great resolution on such a terrible screen size especially when mac has no games unless you modify it and even then it doesn't perform as well as a PC laptop with mostly the same hardware?
I mean, I guess if you had to do quality computer graphics work on the go, that might be cool, but why wouldn't you have a work computer at home for that?
Don't need to, it's a hackintosh so I dual boot as usual.
I don't think I've even entered Windows since last year. Haven't had any reason to.
>What is the point of HD compared to 360p?
Also you are not modifying it, that's the same logic as a calling a self built PC with Windows installed as "Modified". You are simply installing an operating system.
Also what do you mean it doesn't perform as a well as a PC with mostly the same hardware? Because you sound retarded.
I play everything I want. Fucking bootcamp, son.
Or you buy the Retina one with a dedicated graphics card.
You'd be surprised how powerful those Intel APUs have become though. Sure, they don't come close to a 780TI, but for general performance and small time gaming they're quite amazing actually. Been rocking mostly a HD4000 on my ZenBook UX32VD in OS X and it runs damn good and that's not an Iris which most Macs come with which is about double the power again.
>implying there's a better system UI
Dunno what you hate about Aqua, but if you mean Finder (the file manager which is pretty horrible) try XtraFinder. Far better at everything and free (as in open source).
Try Homebrew too which is a package manager. Quite good if you've gotten used to Linux, but need the proprietary software.
i3 just looks like Ratpoison or something.
Awesome seems passable though.
It's oblique for no real reason. The dock takes up too much space for no real function, applications don't close when you tell them to, things rarely maximize properly, full screen doesn't work if you have more than one monitor (if you don't in 2014, kill yourself) and the global menu bar is just pointless.
I dunno what you mean about full screen not working properly with multiple monitors tho, do you use mavericks? Because it is optimised completely for that. I know pre Mountain Lion was a pain etc but for the last year or so this hasn't been a problem.
>The dock takes up too much space
>applications don't close when you tell them to
Are you really SO retarded you can't even use a mac? Os X is literally one of the most user-friendly systems ever.
>full screen doesn't work if you have more than one monitor
You should upgrade that old version of os x dude
>the global menu bar is just pointless
Well, thaks for auto-invalidating every opinion you can have with a single sentence.
There's no point to that high of a resolution on such a small screen. You sacrifice a shit ton of battery life for the sake of an unnecessarily pixel dense monitor. But if you want to waste your money, go ahead and do so.
>I haven't seen a Retina screen and compared it to another laptop before.
>I don't like progress and would like 1080p to be the standard forever.
12 hours battery life with that screen size? I can't get fucking 5 hours with my Windows laptop, so battery isn't really a problem.
7 Hour battery life while in use.
Also, there totally is a point. Because it is visibly more sharp than current HD. You say wasting money but I still don't see a cheaper alternative if you want a sharp display on a laptop.
You didn't really argue against any of my points, anon
Only the full screen and dock arguments received a counter point.
The full screen thing is stupid, but if they fixed it I suppose it isn't a problem any more.
And the dock is inefficient. If you make it small, you have to squint to see the icons. If you make it big, there's too much space being taken away from the applications. At least Win 7 is space efficient with its pinned icons, the dock cares too much about shallow 3D effects
>Strawmanning this hard to defend your inability to make well researched and intelligent purchases
>12 hours battery life
It was reported from countless sites that people were getting 5 hours on average with the new Retina MBPs.
The main point you were addressing has been solved in the newer versions of OSX.
Also, all you have to do is click the top left of the screen and close instead of the typical windows X, I don't really see this as a problem however.
Also the dock is entirely customisable, albeit not explicitly within the system options.
>macs are shit for THESE reasons!
>that's a lot of fake facts, nothing you listed is right or true, sorry
>...shut up you faggot!
>meh, typical windows user
>I just said YOU ARE GAY!
>kek are you 12 or something
>is he really that retarded guys?
>...why don't you listen i said you SUCK DICKS! that means I WON! Right mom?
Not really. Try looking at a 2880x1800 resolution on a screen that usually has <half of that resolution, and you will see the difference. So what you are saying is 4k monitors and displays are totally pointless then?
I own a mac because I prefer OSX to Windows for like 99% of my daily computing tasks.
I do miss not being able to play PC gaming though and I don't want to buy a separate windows PC just for that, which is why I'm hoping for cheap / decent steam machines.
Actually Mac support seems to be more and more common place these days. Sure, most are indie games, but it's a big improvement from the last few years
I bough it because I study art/graphic/design and it's really great for what I do.
Also its system make Windows 7 looking like something made 15 years ago, and that alone is enough for justifying the purchase. Obviously you can't realize that if your experience consists in 10 minutes of try at the apple store or at a friend house.
My next pc will probably be an hackintosh, whenever I'll have enough free time to assemble it.
>30% of gays drink Pepsi
>50% of straight men drink Coca Cola
>The rest only drink Mountain Dew.
>Therefore Pepsi is gay and Cola is straight.
Sounds like your typical bullshit statistic. You could probably find a "link" between being gay and anything else as well.
It's been a long time, but isn't the 2006 model the white and/or black plastic case models?
If so, then yeah any sort of bootcamp or whatever will fuck it up royally. Don't fuck with it, because if it is indeed the plastic cased one, then that will start breaking and there's no point.
You do know that's fucking virtual machine software, right? It's not meant to game. The closest thing you can get is Wine which has about the same performance on OS X and Linux.
Macbook Pro fag here. Specifically wanted a Mac OS laptop to prevent me from playing vidya. When I'm home outside of lectures or work, I have a decent if not okay PC waiting for me at home to play vidya.
I've always had a liking to the OS for quite a while and it doesn't bother me at all. I just specifically use it for work or studies because I can't allow myself to be distracted by video games.
Me again, I've had two of the 2006 models, one I got while in college (designfag) and one 4 years after.
My first one's HD died within a month, got it replaced under warranty. Worked fine after that, but then the casing around the keyboard and around the monitor started cracking (pick related, that's how it started down by the palm rest, then it got bigger, about the width of one's finger.)
Both laptops finally gave up, where the keyboard and the mousepad just don't work.
tl;dr Just don't waste your time OP. If you still have to use Mac, get at least the 2009 Mac desktop and just install Bootcamp.
>buy a new MBP during best buy's sale last month
>tfw no more microshit outside of Word and Excel
Grew up with a Mac, got a windows laptop for college, back to Mac and thank god. Nearly forgot how much nicer the OS is. I don't play computer games tho so shitty gaming options don't matter to me. It's got emulators and that's all I would ever bother with.
Way back when we had this cool game called Diemos Rising tho, that was a fun Mac game.
I have the aluminum 2011 Macbook Pro and the HD died on me on the second year. I replaced it with a 256GB SSD and replaced the optical drive with a spare HD I have.
Ever since that I never had a problem because the laptop is pretty sturdy. I just need to one day replace the battery so it doesn't die after like.. two hours.
Well if you already bought Word you might as well use it, but paying for Word and Excel today is retarded. LibreOffice is just as good has FULL Word compatibility and completely free. Hell, even Pages (Apple's Word) is pretty damn good.
I hope Microsoft keeps the almost-monopoly in the pc market.
Macs are less relevant, but Apple actually put a huge effort into making their Os the most comfortable you can use, trying to build the best experience you can find using a pc.
That's because Apple actually fear of losing their users, and that would surely happen if Windows were better than Os X.
Microsoft, having the whole world using their systems, simply can't give less fucks, so they are really lazy in the Os development.
This is one of the first Pro-Mac threads i've seen on /v/, (if not pro then at least everyone who is anti-mac getting btfo) and I like it,
Mac gets too much hate on this board, mainly from neckbeards who hate mac because it's "popular"
Then why you never used it in your whole life? Seems your low IQ and the cocks you are sucking right now are blocking you from realizing you have been using a shitty Windows for the whole time.
>I hope Microsoft keeps the almost-monopoly in the pc market.
>That way Microsoft can be lazy in the OS development and make shit operating systems like Windows 8.
You need to kill yourself, I can't stress how important this is.
>4 years old Mac
>never get a single virus
>never had problems
>run OsX for art/design/projects
>run windows for gaming
>still better than 3/4 of the computers out there
>Outdated unix tools and outdated OpenGL version
>Most vulnerable form of Unix (notice how Apple removed the slogan about having to deal with viruses?)
Yeah if you put your fingers to your ears and ignore everyone then you can never be wrong!
>Well if you already bought Word
Oh don't worry, I didn't.
I haven't used Pages yet. I still remember Appleworks, which was complete shit (but the lack of compatability with the windows computers at school did give me some nice homework excuses) so I'm a little weary to go back to an Apple word processor.
It's proof that there are no OG mustards left. Only those babbys that keep spouting PCtendo left and right.
Wouldn't suprise me if they consider themselves mustards because they own a Mac.
>dock takes up to much space
I own both pc and mac and I use mac for my web designing and some video audio editing. It's more stable.
Windows can be faster, but software is buggy.
Windows is good only because you can pirate more shit. If you couldn't pirate anything, mac would be better.
Let's imply piracy doesn't exist, because it's a crime. We are not criminals, right?
Then Mac is cheaper, because it already has software that it's alternatives in windows cost at least $1000. I work at a company that cannot use pirated software. We use mac, because it's cheaper.
People will always fail to realize how buying a 1000$ pc with free OS and software that let you work without adding to that price a single penny is more convenient than buying a 700$ pc that need thousands for OS, software and maintenance.
They seems too busy being mad at you for using something with a logo they don't like.
>i wish i could actually play the good games on this sale but theres not shit.
So fucking Boot Camp some shitty Windows and play them there. The fuck is the problem?
>HURR DURR GAMES ARE THE ONLY REASON TO OWN A COMPUTER
>mental defective tries to talk about UI and UX as though he knows anything
Pro tip: OS X conforms to inherent human interaction standards better than any other OS, retard.
As said previously, find a laptop which has equivalent hardware to the retina MacBook Pro while having at least a display of 2880x1800 on a 15" screen,
Can't find a single issue with the newer macs, particularly the MacPro.
>Most vulnerable form of Unix
Due to popularity, and vulnerability isn't something to insult Mac's about, they have a pretty damn strong reputation for dealing with said issues.
>having to deal with viruses
Bro, Macs can get viruses.
The fact is simple: Apple doesn't sell licenses for antivirus.
Want to sell an antivirus? You can't, you can release it free if you want.
Or you can sell a program that do other stuff, including also being an antivirus as a plus.
Antivirus companies are the people that spread the most powerful and numerous viruses all over the web, because they have interest in doing so, selling the "cure".
If they can't sell antivirus, then they also haven't the incentive to make and spread viruses for Mac.
So no massive mac viruses all over the web at all.
Apple itself release non-stop security updates whenever some Os X viruses, malware, botnets or such things start spreading. Security updates are often weekly, if not daily.
there are plenty of free antiviruses for Os X. Even if you get a virus (which is highly improbable), it would be easily stopped.
That's why yes, there can be viruses for Mac, but it's REALLY difficult to actually get them.
Almost impossible if you aren't a complete idiot (but even if you are).
>Antivirus companies are the people that spread the most powerful and numerous viruses all over the web, because they have interest in doing so, selling the "cure".
>Bro, Macs can get viruses.
Blatant lie; commit suicide.
>Apple doesn’t sell licenses for antivirus.
Because they’re not cocksuckingly retarded, like you.
>That’s why yes, there can be viruses for Mac, but it’s REALLY difficult to actually get them.
Once again, no, it is inherently impossible.
Are you really that stupid? Do you really believe most of the viruses you got are developed by 14 year olds with nothing to do with their life?
The antivirus market is a business, and it can't work without viruses.
>"I'd like to voice my subjective concerns, but unfortunately think my opinions are facts."
Get wrecked, faggot. OS X is far superior to Windows in almost every department except vidya. Don't think it is? You haven't tried it in that case.
Calm your edgyness here, kid.
>You do realize you're paying double the price for the same hardware
Not at all. Speaking for laptops, you can't actually find one with better performance/materials/quality/screen resolution/battery/assistance than a MacBook for a lower piece.
Right now, MacBooks and the Mac Pros have really competitive prices in their sectors (laptops and workstations).
>All you get is the fucking apple and an inferior OS
>not knowing how superior is OS X
I know the apple hate bandwagon, but even /g/ admitted how the current Os X is better than Windows 7/8.
It's truly great. Some ideas are so good you'll surely see them in the next Microsoft systems, mark my words.
However, Windows 7 is really better for gaming. It's one of the few reasons someone would ever prefer 7 to Mavericks.
Also when are you fags going to provide proof that you can get a better laptop with at least 2880x1800 resolution on a 15" screen for cheaper than the MBP?
I used to be a Mac guy but I switched for games and a lot of specific software.
I miss OSX, it's a much cleaner and more stable OS. I loved how much lightweight community-made free software was available for it without any RECOMMENDED: INSTALL THE ASK.COM TOOLBAR bullshit tacked on.
>wahhh macs are overpriced garbage
Their laptops are the most heavy duty machines I've ever used, you can practically run over it with a truck and it'll still work. They're worth every last fucking penny, every Windows laptop I've ever used has been a finnicky piece of plastic garbage.
And if you're not using a laptop, just build a fucking hackintosh.
>It's more stable.
Bullshit. I've worked on PC doing 3D stuff since it was possible (since around '95) and nowadays windows is rock solid.
My computer is never shut down and I have periods of 2 - 3 months where I don't have a second of downtime.
And I hammer it quite heavily with games, Zbrush, Photoshop, MAX, Premiere and the usual suspects.
Apple products are not more stable. It's that you are ignorant and that ignorance costs you money.
Money you give to apple.
Macs are all prebuilts. If I took the exact same parts as Mac A and put together a computer and installed windows, I'd have the exact same computer with windows, and will have spent less money on it.
>I’d have the exact same computer
This is how mentally disabled you actually are.
>and will have spent less money on it.
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT.
>After tabulating all the major component costs (plus another $99.99 US for Windows 8 Pro), we are at a total of around $11,530.54 US using today’s prices at retailers that actually stock the hardware. I’m not afraid to admit that compared to the asking price of $9,599 US, the new Mac Pro seems like one heckuva deal for these components.
Not him, but after 2009 I've had enough of Windows crashing my CS5 while I was working.
Switched to Os X, never had crashes again.
Dunno about how stable windows is nowadays to be honest.
Then show me the individual components you would use to make a laptop <2cm thick with a 2880x1800 resolution screen and MBP specs for cheaper.
OH wait you can't.
Why even bother posting such fucking BS
Don't even need to build a hackintosh as long as you have a Intel processor almost all the latest desktop components work on OS X. All nVidia graphics cards work on it and most ATI cards. The only problem is WiFi which is a trivial task to fix.
But I have to agree, it's a good fucking OS. The only problem is the little game compatibility and that the Finder is quite meh. Software on it is great, homebrew is great, UI is great, and gestures are godlike. Wouldn't switch back to Windows as my main OS even if I got paid.
>Macs are all prebuilts.
Oh really? Because my custom build "Mac" is running fucking fantastic and I'm loving every second of it.
I'm always on incognito. Just a habit. There are a few tabs I have open in regular that I don't want to be overwritten in my history, so I've just been using incognito for everything.
It's only me and my kinky roommate living together anyway. It's not like I have to be afraid of my history.
>Macs are all prebuilts. If I took the exact same parts as Mac A and put together a computer and installed windows, I'd have the exact same computer with windows, and will have spent less money on it
But that's wrong in at least 3 different respects:
1) It ignores when no, you couldn't put together the same specs even for less money.
2) It ignores that form factor is in fact a feature most normal humans care about. Try building an iMac considering how much space it occupy and how good its materials are, not a machine that it's supposed to run the same.
3) It ignores the value of your own time.
3b) Sub to above, even when someone like you does consider the time (rare) you don't tend to consider the meta-time.
This is old, old stuff that has been gone over for a decade. Kind of weird almost to see people still spouting the same thing all these years later, but then again thinking about politics I guess that's human nature.
Your Preference < My Preference
The thread was a blatant flamewar from the start, I've seen many threads on /v/ asking for the same and I highly doubt you need to make a thread to ask for games to play when most digital services has games for Linux and Mac and they have dedicated lists for it.
Instead of trying to validate whatever product you own (Be it a PC or Mac) how about reporting the thread instead. These threads never go nowhere. It's just a bunch of upset neckbeards arguing for the pettiest shit trying to validate their product choice when it doesn't make any difference.
>we could buy all these cheaper parts that would be better but lets just stick to the overpriced mac part list
Go to any store and spec one yourself, boyo.
>HURR DURR I CAN SAY ALL THE SHIT I WANT WITHOUT PROOF
>I CREATE STRAWMAN NOW YOU WRONG TOO LLOLOLOLOLOLOLO YOLOSWAG
This is how Windows users actually behave.
>we could buy all these cheaper parts that would be better
>I am too mentally defective to comprehend the fact that the parts were chosen specifically to match performance
>HURR DURR BUT THERE WILL BE BETTER PARTS FOR EVEN LESS THAN THE ONES THAT BARELY REACH THE PERFORMANCE OF THE ONES WE NEEDED
This is how fucking retarded you are.
>buying amd cards for a workstation
>calling others retarded
Even /g/ couldn't build a workstation using the same components (whenever it was possible) as the Mac Pro that costs less than the mac itself.
>mfw windows will never, EVER stop sucking
>getting wreked so hard you gotta start spouting fallacies when they don't apply
That's quite funny, Anon.
Because in a year I actually am a software engineer.
Good argument. 10/10, they sure got ass-devastated now!
That's actually wrong. The FirePros in the Mac Pro is not real FirePros. They're rebranded consumer AMD cards with small modifications, so in reality the cost would be a lot cheaper. You won't get the same size and design though, they should get credits for packing all that shit into such a small form factor.
>no argument whatsoever
>HURR YOU SAY FALLACY THAT MEAN FALLACY NOW I WIN
I think that’s a fallacy fallacy FALLACY. This is how mentally disabled you are.
This is how mentally disabled YOU are.
The difference is /g/ actually has a brain, albeit miniscule and concedes that apple does make a good product from time to time. The haswell rMBPs being the most notable and their favorite.
Are you undergoing through practical problems friend?
Go back to whatever that Apple subreddit is, right now.
It's not the number of people who use the OS that matters, it's the overall percentage of the users that are pedophiles/homosexuals etc.
If 90% of pedophiles use windows that doesn't matter as much because windows is the most common OS. Say those 90% pedophiles make up .5% of the total windows users (these are all random numbers). But say the other 8% or whatever pedophiles that use mac make up 2% of the total users because there's less total mac users. That means mac users are more likely to be pedophiles.
You would be surprised.
Macs have literally almost every driver in the world already installed (there are Os X weekly updates that automatically install the drivers of new keyboards, mouses, printers, cameras, cellphones, graphic tablets and so on just appeared on the market), but apple choose not to release official Xbox 360 controller drivers, because fuck it, they hate Microsoft.
Too bad you can download the drivers anyways from the web, also most of game ports let you use the xbox controller without problems.
The ironic thing is that it was both sides that started it all really. I am just adding wood to the fire because I can and because it's clearly getting people upset.
Just got myself a mid 2014 macbook air. It runs Skyrim pretty decent but I don't plan to play at all on it.
Just got it for the 12 hours of battery life and holy shit, it actually lasts for 12 hours straight while my ultrabook goes down after 4-6 hours.
>Mfw without Steve Jobs there wouldn't be iPod, no tablets at all being this relevant today, no smartphones being what they are today, the music industry would have been a completely different thing, while entire industries wouldn't have changed plains and products just to become apple competitors
>mfw without Steve Jobs, both mouse and graphic interface would be forgotten as failed prototypes/ideas in a Xerox office, so PCs today would still be niche machines with black screens and white words made for nerds and for work
>mfw your life would be completely different if Steve Jobs was never born
>mfw the world actually would be different today if Steve Jobs was never born
>mfw the world actually would be the same today if you were never born
>one word sentences
>not comprehending that more than one person can reply to you in an anonymous environment
>xbox 360 controller
That's not even relevant because you can use DS3 and DS4 right out of the box wirelessly because the mac's built-in bluetooth works and already recognizes analog and button presses of the controller. Not to mention DS4 works out of the box with PC as well, and you can use betterDS3 for DS3 on pc.
There's literally no need for the 360 controller. Especially not on mac where the DS controllers work natively.
>too mentally defective to respond
>can’t prove his point
>can’t disprove anyone else’s
>HURR DURR I TOO STUPID TO COMPREHEND GREENTEXT
>I NO RECOGNIZE HOW I TALK
None which were made by him originally, he helped popularize a lot of things but was it really for the best? I'm pretty sure a lot of the technology he helped popularize would've find it's way in one shape or another. He was just a con artist who knew his way.
>Need a laptop for uni/dorm
>Noped and bought a shitty laptop that costs $300
>I only use it for work and porn anyway
>Play games on my rig back at home
>playing games on a laptop
>mfw you have to know how to use commands to use a PC
Visual based UI is for scrubs
If you've read the thread is just trolls trolling trolls just because. There's no good retorts or actual discussion besides shit throwing.
>>Having a laptop than runs games better than your desktop at a better resolution,
>implying your shitty small screen can handle 1920x1080
>being dumb with your money
I still had $1000 to burn and I have a laptop.
>arguing with redditfags
Just nod your head and go on with your life.
But there's really none. There's just a few meaningful replies on the thread and the rest consists on unintelligent green text replies that add no discussion but more wood to the fire.
And it's fun that way. I hope you guys burned some good stress this way.
>arguing with redditfags
Just nod your head and go on with your life.
>implying Steve jobs did anything you listed and not his lackeys
>Implying the wikipidea page of Steve Jobs you read once is trustworthy
>Implying Steve Jobs isn't a hack
I can do this all day.
You can really see that /v/ is populated by edgy 15 year olds with no money.
There is a certain age, where you grow out of your hate for apple and realize that while their hardware is not cheap, you still get the overall better product.
Their Laptops are god-tier, their tablets and phones are top-tier, their Mac Pro's are top-tier Workstation machines, their iMacs and mac minis are a thing on their own and if you compare them to the same product line, they are simply better.
I used to hate apple, when I was poor as shit and still lived with my parents, but as soon as I started to earn money and actually gave apple products a try, I got really surprised and determined that, my whole hate for them was pointless. /g/ also mostly moved away from hating apple, besides a few autistic neckbeards.
Obviously /v/ is not the right place to debate things like this, because they're going to post you some gayming laptops with a battery life of 40 minutes and call it a better laptop or some gayming pc and tell you that it'll run games better than a Mac pro.
Anyway, please enjoy your butthurt and maybe someday, you eventually grow out of your hate for apple too.
Good night /v/.
>HURR DURR I SO SMART
>HURR DURR I IGNORE LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE BENCHMARK EVER TAKEN
>I STILL RIGHT LOLOLOLOLOLO YOLOSWAG
This is how deluded Windows users actually are.
>I remain too fucking retarded to do any research
>Steve Jobs’ name on 400 patents is just an accident
>HURR DURR I SAY WIKIPEDIA NOW YOU WRONG
This is how deluded Windows users actually are.
>tfw GNU/Linux user and seeing these actually decent recently ported games on sale
Sorry I can't hear you over all my power.
Sorry about your wasted money and flustered bum.
Here we see the Appletard liberal in its natural state, calling everyone else stupid while acting like a retard.
Already covered your ‘argument’ here earlier.
>I continue to have nothing even remotely close to an argument
>HURR I CALL YOU APPLETARD I RIGHT NOW
This is how deluded Windows users actually are.
I bet you think Thomas Edision was a great man too?
He, just like our man Jobs, was seen more often running to the patent office with his assistants new invention then to actually be in the lab himself.
Steve Jobs is a hack
Get over it
And do you really think that a wiki on a politically charged figure like Job's is accurate, or is this your first time on the internet?
Apple is just a luxury, some people enjoy it, some don't, it's simple as that, but your life doesn't need luxury for you to be happy.
I've tried some apple products but I've learned my life doesn't need them. iPod's are cool but I enjoyed an MP3 I had before much more with it's simplicity, but I don't hate my current iPod, but I rarely use it nowadays and I hate using iTunes. The mouses are pretty comfy, but I don't need them, my mouse which I've used for almost a decade works just as good and I don't need anything from Razer either.
I'm happy with what I have really. I don't need an expensive product to prove superiority, in the end they don't last forever and you can't have them with you all the time. Just get whatever fits with you better.
So, what your telling me is that you are completely computer illiterate?
Can you even install antivirus by yourself?
How did you even get here?
>HURR DURR I KEEP SAYING THING THAT MAKE IT TRUE
This is how fucking retarded you are.
Eat shit and die, how’s that sound, you goddamn knobgobbler?
the mac pro is another over priced work station line up that doesn't beat even corporate workstations
the mac pro's only real advantage is its small form factor which isn't an issue for most companies anyway, its small form factor actually hinders it because you have to use a peripheral for literally every attachment since theres no inside upgradeability for peripherals, storage, RAID modules or anything
imacs are in the same position, yea you save space and what not but the computer is very lack luster as a platform, low end performance for a high tier price? come off it mac mini's are the same
You have yet to actuary address anything I have said, so obviously it is true.
Steve Jobs is a hack
Get over it
for 3000 dollars you get one 6 core xeon an AMD workstation card, 16gb of ECC memory and a 256gb PCIe SSD
its great hardware for an extremely exclusive price, any DIY will be better faster stronger
the only thing those DIY's and other companies don't have is a non-standard form factor, thats literally the only thing a mac pro has is a form factor that gimps you into using a peripheral for everything
it has no way to have SAS drives or components, no way to RAID, no way to have anything on the inside without the use of a peripheral
>being this retarded
>What are you even trying to get at??
That’s what I’m wondering about you.
>Post some non 4k monitors which exceed 1920x1200.
How mentally defective are you, exactly?
>HURR I WILL PRETEND THERE HAVE BEEN NO REPLIES
>NOW THERE ARE NO REPLIES
>I AM RIGHT FOREVER
This is how mentally defective Windows users actually are.
>What fucking performance testing? Speed?
>I don’t know how to use a fucking application
>I don’t know how to use the product the way it is intended
>I don’t even comprehend the most fundamental aspect of my own statements
>BUT I AM STILL RIGHT GUYS WHY AREN’T YOU LISTENING TO ME
>any DIY will be better faster stronger
Except it has already been proven that none are, you knobgobbling illiterate piece of shit.
>not having any games to play
You come on to /v/ and try to promote a non-gaming OS.
How retarded are you?
>applications are gooder
Yeah and I downloaded RAM the other day
>proven that none are
Fucking where, I've read this entire thread
And fucking LUL at those overpriced apple monitors.
>>any DIY will be better faster stronger
>Except it has already been proven that none are, you knobgobbling illiterate piece of shit.
You're an idiot
I can go grab an ATX Supermicro motherboard strap two quad core Xeons into it 32gb ECC memory
I could put a PCIe SSD in, or I could you know throw 6- 2tb 15krpm WD raptor drives into RAID 60 and you can go fuck yourself
I'll throw in a pair of fiber NIC's too because your fucking mac can't into any Fiber if it wanted to
We are on a video game board for a thread where the OP asked for games to play on his mac, so it's a valid point for the topic.
Anyone with half a brain knows Mac's aren't gaming machines and only retards like the OP makes such questions when Steam, GoG, and anywhere else shows you the game available for Mac/Linux one click away. If he wanted to play games he is better off getting a desktop or double booting his comp, or just a fucking console if he can afford a Mac.
The whole topic is absolutely retarded and OP is a faggot.
the base mac pro is 3000 dollars
includes 1 quad core xeon
12gb ECC memory
Dual "firepro D300's" (which are AMD 290 under a firepro firmware)
and a 256gb PCIe SSD
thats all you get, anything you want to do extra is either apple tax or some peripheral through thunderbolt
>applications are gooder
>I am LITERALLY too fucking stupid to read the words
>HURR DURR I WILL REPLY ANYWAY
Read the goddamn post, you cocksucking moron.
>Fucking where, I’ve read this entire thread
>HURR DURR IT TOO HARD TO READ POST
>You’re an idiot
lol, go ahead, shitstain. You continue to be wrong.
I covered that little link of yours
They literally compare it against a computer with higher quality internals. AMD CPUs are crap that substitute cores for power. Ironically that mac is much slower than the comp they are comparing it to.
Full of bullshit, because it's fucking tiny.
You could literally line up 4 of them and they would take up less space than a "gaymer PC".
I guess that's something that basement neckbeards will never understand the importance of in this day and age.
>HURR DURR I NO LIKE URL THEREFORE YOU WRONG I SAY WRONG SO WRONG BECAUSE URL
>NO I HAVE NO ARGUMENT
>NO I HAVE NO REBUTTAL
>NO I NO CAN PROVE YOU WRONG
>YOU JUST WRONG BECAUSE I SAY WRONG
This is how Windows users actually behave.
>so fucking mentally disabled that he thinks I give a shit about “samefagging”
Either post an argument or a rebuttal to an argument or you can just go commit suicide.
What argument do you even have, you've been shitposting that AMD is equivalent to a more powerful Intel this entire thread.
Look into computing lag that happens when you use cores to substitute for power, you computer illiterate.
heres a computer that is faster than your shit for about 3060 dollars
it out performs the mac pro
2 fucking quad core Xeons
a supermicro Motherboard for LGA2011 and server rack case
a fucking FIBER NIC BECAUSE YOU CANT DO NIC ANYTHING BECAUSE FUCK YOU
6 count them SIX fucking 15krpm 1tb SAS drives, throw them in RAID 0, 1, 5, 6 or 60 what ever tickles your fancy
32gb of ECC memory because FUCK YOU YOU ONLY GET 12
You are advocating that the Chinese made supercar is equivalent to a Ferrari. Not only is it slower, it craps out sooner as well.
Niggers coming up here and telling me AMD is idential in build quality to fucking Intel.
>disk speed is the only thing a computer can do
This is how mentally disabled you actually are.
>repeating exactly what the person says is a strawman
This is what Windows users actually believe.
PCIe storage is minimal, expensive and doesn't have nearly enough space
thunderbolt doesn't mean shit, a 10gb SFP blows thunderbolt out of the water
you know what the difference between an SSD and Flash storage is?
nothing really, an SSD has a case flash storage doesn't
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Knights of the Old Republic: $3.39
I know they're all old, but I hadn't actually played them before. All work on Mac, and I know all are pretty good quality, especially for less than $10 total.
There's no point in buying dozens of games I'll never play that often, and I don't need every shooter or action RPG that comes out, since I end up watching the interesting ones as films on Youtube minus the price tag.
With that said, absolutely won't defend Mac as any kind of proper gaming machine; it's not. As an Idort though, I can generally get anything of interest for whatever system, so I don't need the computer to be a hardcore gaming machine. So long as I can run a little nostalgia on it like SimTown or Lego Island, I'm good.
I also have Civilization V, Minecraft (the free version), World of Warcraft which is currently inactive because fuck your 14-month-no-content bullshit Blizzard, and the one that gets the most "play time", Lego Digital Designer. Pic related - autist as fuck and loads of
Text looks a million times better than on 1080p screens and games run fine at 1440x900 (so it scales perfectly). I got the late 2013 rMBP as a gift for graduation/college and it runs older games at 2880x1800 and it looks awesome, and newer games look OK at 1440x900. Unfortunately I got one with the nVdia GPU so I can't do it, but you can hook up a thunderbol to expresscard, to expresscard to pcie and have an external GPU display on the internal monitor an run new games on high.
Not the case at all.
PCIe is hardly a disadvantage to the SAT displayed in the post which was replied to, and is superior to an SSD. So, where do you want to go with this? The fact that you're totally wrong?
What's even the point of getting a Mac anyway? You spend all that money to get laptop parts in a shiny desktop and then you can only run like 5% of the software Windows runs. Even with bootcamp you end up just spending $1500 on a Windows laptop anyway.
I guess if you do stuff with audio, Core Audio is meant to be good - but I can't think of any other case where a Mac would be any good.
>actually answering the question
I'm not sure whether to be grateful or to call you a faggot.
Can I do both?
you can't configure the SATA bus
SATA3 is the latest technology and it's bus limit is 6gbps both ways
however SAS in a RAID array over multiple SAS cables would indefinitely be faster than one of course
You have to have downloaded the Steam client into the Bootcamped Windows. Once you do that, it's all dependent on what you have to work on. Bear in mind, Windows software yes, but your various specs are still based on the Mac. So if the Mac would stutter on some games, it still will on Windows. It'll vary by the game at that point.
You just inheritly think that because its SSD over PCIe that its magically faster than everything?
IIRC the mac pro's PCIe SSD did about 1gb/s
but I can guarantee you a raid array of SAS drives will be faster, about 10 times as fast actually because one server/workstation can saturate a 10gb SFP fiber line
Nvidia's CUDA technology is run on 80% of the workstation market because unlike AMD, Nvidia shilled the fuck out of adobe and other workstation software developers to develop in CUDA technology. this results in leaner and better software for Nvidia users which is again 80% of the market
>completely ignores entire argument
>HURR NO YOU DO THAT NOT I DO THAT
>CPU MEAN NOTHING GPU MEAN NOTHING
>I AM RIGHT NO I NO HAVE TO HAVE PROOF
>HURR DURR I SAY REPORT HIDE NOW YOU WRONG
I realize I'm asking this in the wrong thread, but honestly, who the fuck cares about any of this?
I'm not going to shell out a few thousand dollars to build a gaming computer, no matter whose name is slapped on the operating system. That's just completely pants on head retarded, just as retarded as shelling out $400 or more for a console, or hell even $300.
exactly, I know I'm right because I fucking work around these servers and workstations daily
I remember we had to give a NAS two fucking 10gb fiber SFP's because the two servers saturated both lines to the switch
fucking shit posters
>NAS two fucking 10gb fiber SFP's because the two servers saturated both lines to the switch
What does any of this have to do with video games? At all? If we're just talking about tech, take it to /g/, I don't care which company you guys prefer.
>where does windows make it's software
probably in silicon valley like a bunch of the other tech giants
because one idiot thought that the mac pro's PCIe SSD was faster than a RAID array
Different guy, and I'm not sure where it came from, I googled the gif because I was too lazy to go find it in my gif folder.
What were you talking about with Chinese people going out windows? Asking because I haven't heard that aspect yet.
>Video game consoles and MP3 players
The poll has doubled since i went to smoke
Things are progressing, I think we are getting some real data here
tfw I forgot the poll
>mac pro's PCIe SSD was faster than a RAID array
I was going to reply with that "Yes, and...?" old man picture from the one comic, but I can't find it.
I honestly have no idea what this technical stuff means, for Windows or Mac. Does it make it do games better or something? If not, who the fuck cares?
>Computer hardware is the collection of physical elements that constitutes a computer system. Computer hardware refers to the physical parts or components of a computer such as the monitor, mouse, keyboard, computer data storage, hard drive disk (HDD), system unit (graphic cards, sound cards, memory, motherboard and chips), etc. all of which are physical objects that can be touched. In contrast, software is instructions that can be stored and run by hardware.
The argument he presented was that Windows and Linux Operating Systems are better and can be acquired for free. Stop dismissing arguments because the bad words hurt your feelings.
No now it has turned into a /g/ thread. And MAc got decimated pretty hard, because he''s right. While PCIe is a good bus, you can get must caster with linked SSDs.Possibly for cheaper as well.
its basically how fast games load
shit loads faster on an SSD
a good enough RAID array of HDD's will easily beat an SSD
a RAID array of SSD's will easily blow away the HDD RAID array but your wallet too...
SAS drives is a SCSI And SATA I think I can't remember what it stood for but its basically a daisy chain of drives over a single interface thats extremely fast