>No newcomer you want will EVER make it into Kerfuffle
How are you coping, /v/?
well, shes assist so it could be worse.
>no custom robo rep
>No Sin & Punishment rep
Why even go on living?
I did want Mega Man until I played as him. He's incredibly awkward to use.
>mfw my main from Brawl isn't coming back either
>No Travis Touchdown in conjunction with an announcement for NMH3 for Wii U
He could be comedically censored too...
>All in the same game
Sorry, but if you're complaining about the roster at this point, you're an entitled little shit.
>tfw my most wanted newcomer is the second most likely newcomer next to Chrom
>Everyone else but me is satisfied
The new characters I wanted not making it in and my main not returning I probably wouldn't be upset over if the rest of the roster was decent. There are only two and a half characters that look at least alright to me.
I mean Miis? Rosalina? WFT? Really
I cope by thinking up move-sets for that character and eventually stopping to give a damn.
I wanted Little Mac so that's all fine and good but
I feel for you, Custom Robros.
Because Ray would be fun as fuck. I always liked projectile-heavy characters.
I also wanted Takamaru but that's the dumbest hope I had.
I don't really need that shit. I got Olimar, my main nigga. He's all I need.
I'm not going to even pretend. I know I'm extremely entitled, but it still hurts.
I've contemplated just not getting the games it's so depressing, but I know
I'm going to get both and wind up hating them because almost no one in the roster is appealing to me.
>Seriously trying to shit on video game icons.
Greninja is a faggot, who has no style
Hawlucha is way better, and would be perfect
Not him, but Pac Man's pretty much only in because Namco's helping development. It's true he's iconic, but he's not relevant, and has little to do with Nintendo. Few people even wanted him until it was confirmed Namco was involved and even then that was half because they expected him.
He's just too big for SSB for Wii U
Ain't nothing you can do
Some of the changes are weird though. Like, his upsmash is the same but it has a ton more endlag, and his grab has less range but is faster. Also he has a new jab that doesn't reach behind him.
The 3 Pikmin thing only means you have to be more conservative with them though, not really a big issue.
>born in the 70s
>being 40 years old on 4chan
Who do you guys think will be the retro revival character? Melee was Ice Climbers, Brawl was Pit. Little Mac might count but he's had a Wii game before joining Smash so I don't know if he counts.
I already have Ike, so i don't give a fuck.
They might as well announce Ridley, K. Rool, or bayonetta as playables and I will pick just Ike, and maybe Luigi.
Well, bayo might be fun because that would imply a bayo amiibo
I got Little Mac, Mega Man, Palutena, and probably Shulk.
I think Rosalina and Greninja are cool choices to show what's new in their franchises modern era.
I think Wii Fit Trainer is both hilarious and a significant point of Nintendo history.
I think Villager is a neat addition and I love his move set
I was worried Pac-Man would be I'M A MEME but he wasn't, so it's all good.
Miis ended up being a lot better than I expected and actually seem fun to play.
I have no issue with Chrom or Chorus Men. In fact, I'm starting to find Robinfags pretty annoying.
I have completely avoided all butthurt. My anus is pure as the Virgin Mary.
Feels pretty horrible.
but at least I still have Olimar, G&M and probably ROB. Little Mac is pretty awesome though, but I don't think I'll play him.
Irrelevant, he's an icon in video game history and is more deserving of a spot than literally any other person you could possibly name, regardless of developer motivations and character popularity.
Also, you're a faggot for only wanting Nintendo characters.
>How can nobody in the roster be appealing to you?
Well Kirby's been buffed, but I haven't really mained him for long and while it's one of my favorite franchises
and the reason I got into SSB in the first placehe's not my favorite to use in SSB. Lucas, my main, is gone, and I can't go back to Ness unless he's SSB64 levels of anus destroyer after tasting how much better Lucas was. No one from any of the niche Nintendo franchises I liked got in. I love Mega Man, and was initially generally excited for his inclusion but after playing as him I lost all interest. He's incredibly awkward and some of his moves are very impractical, like the Leaf Shield, and even the Metal Blades don't do much damage.
>Also, you're a faggot for only wanting Nintendo characters.
Where did I say that?
>No Ouendan squad with EBA alternate costumes
>No Cheerleader squad clone, faster and with more combo potential but weaker and lighter
Mario's been changed even more since his introduction, but nobody denies that Mario is still in the game.
It's like saying Link isn't in the game because they're using the TP design now.
I wanted Little Mac, Tingle and Belmont. Belmont was always extremely improbable, but I got Little Mac so I don't mind the lack of a playable Tingle.
If he's not playable in HW then I'll be butthurt.
>Wanting ANOTHER self insert character to get in
I think in terms of moveset he'd be better than yet another blue haired swordsman, but really?
That was A reason, but that doesn't mean that I don't want strictly Nintendo characters.
Megaman was something I never knew I wanted. Also, I really don't get worked up about which characters are in a game, simply that the game is enjoyable. Well, that and I mainly play as Link.
>Kirby's been buffed
Kirby was one of the best characters in Brawl, if he's even remotely the same he'll be great.
Ness was better in every regard except for a shitty neutral special. Lucasfags usually don't know how to kill with anything besides Smash attacks that's why they prefer the faster bat and psy smashes over the yoyo.
>No one from any of the niche Nintendo franchises I liked got in.
Stop being a hipster.
I did before they ruined him in Brawl, but Toon Link's the best any Link has ever been as evidenced by the tier lists
>Namco is super buddy buddy with Nintendo these days.
There's like one SRW on the 3DS, no Dark Souls II Wii U, no more Tales games on Nintendo platforms, almost only the arcade stuff and licensed games really, outside of SSB.
Not going to say it because I don't want to make other fans of those characters look bad because I'm being a whiny faggot, admittedly.
>tfw your main hasn't been revealed yet
Where is he guys? what if they decided to remove him?
Not really, I'm moderately good, just don't really much care for competitive play (IE: All items and flat stages only). In fact, I've never been bested by anyone in the 64 version consistently. Though admittedly, I've only played at one local tournament.
>I just don't get it, what is appealing about this character?
People who liked Awakening want him in.
Anon please, he even has his logo. Sakurai's not going to get rid of Wario, he has his own unique moveset, is a major Nintendo character in the Mario Kart and sports games and he even has TWO entire series devoted to him. Don't be silly.
You only really need to worry about your main not coming back if you're a Lucasfag, Snakefag, or maybe Wolffag.
Different Swordstyle compared to the 2 FE lords
Personally, He is also my favorite FE Lord as well with Ike and Seliph tied for 2nd. I have faith in Sakurai to give him a great and fun Moveset in Sm4sh.
>>implying Sakurai will make good choices with pure Nintendo characters.
See when Brawl came out and I saw everyone in it, I saw that almost every franchise was pretty well represented and thought that for Kerfuffle, he would have no choice but to branch out to the amazing, niche franchises Nintendo had because there was no where else to go.
I was wrong.
I was so, horribly, horribly, horribly wrong.
Seriously. I don't get this shit. I use the characters that have movesets/playstyles that I find to be
fun.I don't give a fuck what the visual representation of said character is.
At what age exactly does this retarded shit stop being important?
>Elite Beat Agents/Ouendan
>Rhythm Heaven Rep that isn't that fucking Chorus Boy
>Pokemon Conquest Oda Nobunaga
RIP in Peace
You're right. He was smart enough to realize established franchises still had characters with adding before going to the bottom of the barrel with ideas like Lip or Prince Sable
Just make a mii of that character oh you knew that already?
Well.. Since it seems you know the roster from the leaker, did you know he recently said DLC is be considered? It's very vague he didn't exactly say dlc characters but still you never know
>My friends have no idea who any of the newcomers are except for Pac-Man and Mega Man
>One actually thought Rosalina's first appearance was Mario Kart Wii
>Every character casualfags know was already added in Brawl
>>Rhythm Heaven Rep that isn't that fucking Chorus Boy
>Just because a character that you want gets in doesn't mean that they'll suit your playstyle
Everyone is super excited to play as Mega Man. Countless sources say he's weird as hell to play as. Many of those people won't bother maining him since he won't mesh with their playstyle.
That's why I'm just excited for roster size, and not individual characters.
What franchises did you want fighters from?
Because regardless of how they fight, If that character is someone I really like, then I will play as them even if they aren't fast attackers.
Looking at you Ike.
>>Rhythm Heaven Rep that isn't that fucking Chorus Boy
>before going to the bottom of the barrel
But he already added Miis and Wii Fit Trainer.
I mean seriously. Say what you will about Lip and Prince Sable, I don't care much for them myself but at least they're from video games. Wii Fit Trainer is from a glorified exercise program that only barely counts as a game, and Miis I shouldn't even have to explain, they're the most generic you can get and will be used for either self insertion, adding animu characters, or putting in Hitler and Stalin again as if that hasn't been driven into the ground over the course of eight years. Literally anyone who isn't Krystal would have been better, in my opinion.
You're free to like them and disagree, but this is just what I think.
Sound quality in general isn't very stellar on DS. However, RHF has top notch sound/music quality
i actually really hate rhythm heaven on DS and if i werent trying to get all perfects, id never touch it again
Not mad, just disappointed.
I hate his fucking face, but I want a Rhythm Heaven character. Wrestler+Reporter would be baller as fuck and the hime cut girl is a qt.
seriously. he was my main in brawl and id be pretty pissed if he was cut for whatever reason
A mixture of newcomers and veterans will not be revealed until September 13th.
I really don't care so long as I don't inadvertently make an entire fanbase look bad. I think /v/ has had enough of that sort of name calling and finger pointing.
>Cutting a Kirby character
What are you smoking? I bet he won't even get nerfed.
>>mfw my main was confirmed day one and vastly improved
Not him, but I'd love to see Isaac and Mach Rider in Smash. I also wouldn't mind seeing Saki and Ray get promoted to playable characters as well. I want to see more niche franchises get attention and I want to see a proper retro rep so his/her series can get a revival.
>No newcomer you want will EVER make it into Kerfuffle.
Worse is when you realize no newcomer you want will ever make it into Smash period, 'til Sakurai steps down from the series.
This. It's better than a sticker.
Pretty good actually
I always wanted a Rhythm Heaven rep but knew it would be too obscure, but hey look at that, Gematsu who was right so far with all but 3 Predictions was right.
That's not to say it was final, there's possibly more especially given that the leaker didn't say Rosalina
Though I am stressed waiting to see if K. rool is in or not, Kremlings in Smash Run and Namco making the game has sparked hope
I love Toon Link, but I'd be fine with them taking him out and replacing him with Prince Sable.
>Klonoa or Dark Souls would be cooler rep.
>wanted Little Mac
Pretty sure they'll add at least another one or two I want. My only semi-impossible dream is Simon Belmont and even he has a chance as long as Snake isn't in.
Better taste and imagination than Sakurai has, I assure you.
please post your superior taste so i can laugh at you
It's not that they can't remove a character, it's that they are reusing animations from Brawl with tweaked hitboxes. All they had to make was a new Toon Link character model and tweak his hitboxes and add some extra frames here and there. This is why all the brawl newcomers are coming back
>wanted Palutena reveal and Mr Game and Watch reconfirmation
Now why would I fall for that bait, anon?
If you must know, in an effort to be more in touch with the fanbase, I'd come to your house, poll you on what you most wanted, assured you they'd all be seriously considered, then not put a single one in.
Then in the credits, I'd put your hopeful picture followed by 'if you laugh at this Ridley will be unlocked.'. Except he doesn't.
Master level troll. gg no re
Jokes on you, OP, my newcomer dream has been Day 1 Confirmed.
>King K. Rool may not make it.
Yeah, I haven't gotten around to playing the Onimusha game yet. I'd still enjoy having him in though, but I could say that for a lot of characters most people wouldn't exactly agree with.
are you okay, dude? it was just a simple request
Maybe you should start playing Ganon.
People will tier whore for Ganon just as much as Metaknight, except when you push their shit in, they'll give you instant respect rather than snobby sneers.
Cool source, friend.
>Character who is effectively on par with Bowser and Dedede in terms of size, series role, and moveset variability
>reduced to NPC boss in one mode for one sku of the game
I'd rather him be a trophy.
>mfw wonderfags got BTFO
god damn that was the greatest daily pic
That's a gross generalization. Obviously there will be an optimal set, but there will always be players, good players, who find a way to make other sets work. Just like with Pokemon.
>Smash and Bayo 2 both set for release in October
>Implying she won't be the last newcomer reveal
Whatever. Just wait for the "rules" to roll in by every tournament about which moves are "off limits" or "unfair" or even "underpowered" that people won't touch. Tourney players will ruin this. It's already predetermined.
I wouldn't say deconfirmed just yet, but then again who else would be the big Kremling boss? At least he's in the game, so I'm happy about that.
I'm happy with MegaMan and Little Mac, two characters I definitely want in. As for the rest of the newcomers they all look like fun and are great homages to their characters and series and I hope fans of that series\character are happy with their inclusion.
Of all the deconfirmations, Skullkid was more satisfying. People constructing mental movesets of one of the most minor villains in the series and trying to tell everyone he deserves it more than anyone was more than a little irritating. He only has one real move, "summon moon" and it's only worth of a final smash.
>lol blown the fuck out! epic tears so delicious!
I don't even get you fags. Do you actually enjoy smash or are you just here to act obsessive over other people's disappointment
Wonder Red had a model made specifically for that trophy. So did Phosphora and she turned out to be an AT, so I'm betting WR is at least an AT.
I humored the possibility when all we saw was a shadow. But let's be real. It isn't happening. He's just a boss or stage hazard.
Man anti-tourneyfags are always so booty blasted.
Yeah fuck those anti-wonderedbros
Look I just unlocked misty's trophy but it didn't say she was not playable
how do I unluck her /v/?
It has been 13 years but I don't still unlock her
No what I'm saying is that Toon Link's inclusion doesn't decide if Prince Sable gets in or not. No veteran inclusion "takes up space" for what could've been a newcomer.
If Sakurai wants Prince Sable in, he'll be in.
Sakurai is against realistic guns. Bayo uses MAGIC guns.
>Wonder Red's trophy doesn't even match Kerfuffle's style for the playable characters.
Even when his model is extremely detailed? I think it's unlikely that he'll be playable, but I at least expect him to be an AT.
Am I the only here who get taken at the top of page sometimes whenether someone posts in a thread? It's very annoying
>no Wonder Red
>no Skull Kid
>no K. Rool
>no Bowser Jr.
I had no expectations on the roaster, so I was pleasantly surprised with every new announcement they made. I'm honestly impressed at the sheer amount of characters currently revealed. It's like they're pulling a Mario Kart 8 here, revealing almost everything before the game is even out. Now, I'm not saying that'a a bad thing, I'm just making an observation here.
>Been on /co/ so long that Shulk=She Hulk
Is that actually a thing? I thought when people on /v/ confused the main character of one of the best known jrpgs of last gen with she hulk, they were just trolling
I dont know that feel, OP
Yeah look at tiki's trophy
She must be in the game because her model isn't like the awakening one
we already have a sega rep, and two other game icons as third parties, plus samus has her jet heels and metroid's annversary is on august
Not that guy, but shit is just funny. It's funny how much butthurt and frustration is caused by something so silly.
Like shit like this >>251503745
And people are living so far in their fantasy they do things like >>251503559 mentioned
Even though they have no evidence and are basically just guessing, convincing themselves and others it's going to happen, believing it so fiercely and passionately they basically start a mob that just sits around and circlejerks over the possibility. Then after months and months of said circlejerk when thy get deconfirmed it's just so funny to see the reaction. And with Ridley the circlejerk, butthurt, and frustration of his fans combined with the butthurt and anger of the Metroid fanbase is going to cause the biggest shitstorm since Bayonetta 2. I honestly don't know if putting him in or not would cause the bigger storm. But I can't wait.
I kind of doubt second bananas of third party games have a shot, but I'd take him or Knuckles in a heartbeat.
Nintendo why? You release his game and remake his game a million times on all your platforms, and love him but yet he won't make it
>we will never get anything better than the sneaking man
>we will never get sneaky snake in smash again
>WR as AT
>WR does a random W101 attack
>Has a 20% chance to do Platinum
>Has a 10% chance to FULEPSMJFMDBGBBLBSSIFTFWA (effectively resetting the smash ball's chance to appear and replacing it in a less conspicuous way)
I'm fairly certain that that's the point.
He's probably butthurt because they have a thread right now that isn't getting deleted for a change.
Making fun of idiots who convinced themselves of ridiculous things is one thing, but the whole Wonder Red thing is just dumb
Most people were basically just disappointed, I don't think many totally expected him. But after the trophy was shown off all the threads were still just "YELLOW LAUGHING MAN BTFO LOLOLOL"
so don't even pretend you've got some sort of high ground on these people
Perfectly fine. It was an experiment.
The fact that you didn't bat an eyelash at my behavior shows that you're totally fine with the bullshit Sakurai's pulling with Smash 4, because my behavior isn't particularly different from his.
As for your request, as I've said in other topics, antagonists would be a good start and, no, not ''cause tey sew kewl top kek', but because they're actually fucking important. Hades or Medusa, K. Rool, Vaati and Porky or Giegue would be given top priority. Characters like Wart, Fawful and Ridley would be given serious consideration for potential fun inclusions, but certainly not guaranteed.
Then I'd show some love to RPG franchises that deserve it. Since Mother would already be getting an antagonist under the Add More Antagonists Act, I'd line up pretty much every RPG in Nintendo's franchise and pick out their most important characters. Isaac is a good start. So as not to seem like a huge prick to the Japanese, I'd also strongly consider Shulk even though I've never played Xenoblade and won't play X.
After that, I'd consider Fire Emblem Awakening representation that's not a lord. Likely a nimble spear-wielding Donnel or, if I intended to add Bandanna Dee to shut the Deefags up, Avatar or Anna. Chances are, both of them would have a magic-heavy moveset and use a shortsword for some of their normals.
Following that, I'd start to actually start finally considering niche franchises and characters. For that, I'd actually start polling my fanbase so I had a better idea of what characters people actually wanted. I'd actually poll Japan, Europe AND America and cross-reference the data gathered to make my decisions.
Newcomers like Greninja, Little Mac, Pac-Man, and Mega Man can stay. That's 11 guaranteed newcomers before I start exploring niche franchises, and up to a total 15 possible actual newcomers.
Of course, I can understand why Sakurai doesn't do it that way, since he needs stuff for the next Smash Brothers, but damn.
what's the over/under for mewtwo?
mewtwo is my main, in project m.
>Ray will never be in a game with custom movesets ever again
>Sakurai will never add his original waifu
>Rool will never return his rejected reptile club uniform
Sonic Battle was pretty fuckin neato at least.
>Advance Wars fag
Well at least I'm a Little Macfag
I am pretty content, they went the extra mile already, adding more characters I want would be ridiculous given I want a Victory Viper Assist Trophy, Any Castlevania rep, Doom Guy (He was on a nintendo platform, twice, he counts more than fucking snake) and Ninten / Mask Man
Like I said, I just think it's funny. I loved W101, and I knew there wasn't a single chance. And don't group me in with the shitposters. I just sit back and watch the circlejerk turn from HYPE HYPE HYPE to full on sadness. And no I don't think I have any higher ground; I just like to be entertained and boy does shit like that fit the bill. Maybe they should start by lowering their expectations a bit.
I liked Mewtwo a lot, he was about my third favorite character in Melee, but it's time to let it go.
We need new experiences. If a heavy backlog of characters we don't really need have obligatory appearances, Smash is never going to
>Metaknight is the best character in Brawl because he's the only character that goes at Melee speed
>Hades or Medusa, K. Rool, Vaati and Porky or Giegue would be given top priority.
'dlike you To stop posting, immediately
He just ventured a guess. Keep that in mind before your optimism goes out of control. Little Mac is the only one we've seen them go nuts with alt costumes. There's still a lot of recolors.
I played as Bowser at Smash Fest and rekt the other 3 players.
He's a lot of fun to play as.
>And as far as I know, every character is getting an alt costume
Oboi, time to speculate
A different Link
A different Zelda
A new Shiek design
Other M young Samus
FE Awakening design
What? My serious consideration of Ridley isn't enough? If it's any consolation, once I got done with the original batch of antags, Ridley would be the first on the list. I want him as much as the next Ridleyfag, but I'm trying to be fair to the series that don't have antagonists.
Vaati was kind of a last second decision to add. He makes sense to add, since he's the only non-Ganondorf villain to actually show up in more than one game. I felt that was worth something.
Worth way more than Toon Link, anyway, who'd have gotten the boot to fit Vaati in.
I couldn't think of any newcomers I'd want. I just wanted Ike and Snake to return.
Snake is gone, but Ike is back. I'm satisfied.
Do people even want Paper Mario in? I do. I think he'd be a pretty cool character to play as.
You are really bad at this.
>actually defending Wasted Slot: The Character
I thought people knew better than this
Who Andy here?
The fact the Infantry and Tanks AT hasn't been shown yet gives me a little shred of hope
THANK YOU FOR THAT FUCKING PIC
Holy shit, now I have ammunition against those "WHERE IS CAPTAIN FALCON/NESS/JIGGLY????" idiots
>not light suit
>not dark suit
>not fusion suit
>just the one that is a slight variation of the one she already wears.
In hindsight, that's probably true. I'm the guy who posted my picks, by the way.
No matter how I try to approach him, he'd probably play like Avatar, so I guess the better idea would be to toss him.
>CLASSIC GREEN HAIR, EXPOSED MIDRIFF, and PINK CLOTHES YA IDJIT
It's a long shot, but so was Pink Jumpsuit or Wireframe Mac.
I all I wanted was Ike, ZS Samus, Ice Climbers and Sonic back
All I wanted was Megaman and Little Mac and Shulk for newcomers
5/7 ain't bad. Fucking satisfied.
But why won't Sakurai let K. Rool fight?
I went back and played Brawl for a bit...damn it has only gotten worse with age.
I'm not a tourney fag or anything, but everything about Brawl just feels so limited by the Wii. Even the gameplay suffers...the maps can get too spread out, too many pointless items, idk...maybe its just because i'm getting older, but its nowhere as fun as N64 or Melee
My only problem with people having pipe dreams for awesome alts for characters is that they're giving Sakurai's imagination and attention span way too much credit.
Wireframe and Jumpsuit Mac were flukes, in my opinion. 'til I see some more evidence that Sakurai gives a damn about anything not a palette swap, I'm assuming he's guilty 'til proven innocent.
Yes, I know that Gump.
His specials are still clearly based on Fox's. That's okay though, because they're still very different. He just needs a move that looks more unique, and a new FS.
Tails was changed into some little boy faggot.
the only reason I can think of why you faggots need clarification is because you started playing SANIC when he got raped into the trash known as sonic adventure.
I'm certainly not holding my breath. Just considering the possibility we'll be pleasantly surprised.
>mfw I wanted Mega Man, Little Mac, Rosalina, and Palutena
>mfw I never asked for but totally love WFT, Villager, and Pac-Man
>mfw I'm fine with Mii Fighters
>mfw I'm alright with Greninja for the most part
Y'all niggas need to learn to lighten up sometimes and see the fun parts of what you get. Loving this roster so far. Only nigga I didn't get that I wanted was Wonder Red, but I'm over that now.
I don't give a fuck as long as my nigga Ness is back. Hoping for Lucas too but not holding my breath
and if they cut him and leave falco and wolf I'm gonna get a clip and unload it in a Nip
>effectively on par with Bowser and Dedede in terms of size and moveset variability
>on par with D3 in size
>the character who is canonically about 16 inches tall
Also Charizard exists, what can Ridley do that Zard can't?
look at ridley being too fucking big. as always.
He actually kind of did. Sega Master System/ Game Gear version that is. But only If you got the bad end.
>But wait, Mr. Sakurai, but I thought Kraid was too big for Smash Bros
Coping pretty good due to being not very interested in SSB in the first place.
It's just left as an open question. You beat Robotnik's "final" boss without the emeralds, approach Tails, and he gets teleported away before you save him. Then it shows his face in the stars like you see there.
All geno was good for was geno-whirl ohko
Megaman is nice enough. I like Zero, but come on. You are shitting all over a gift horse.