So Criminal Girls is going to be censored. Lewd sounds will be removed and steam will be added. Why must NISA ruin everything? Why will nobody follow XSEED's lead?
Also related: NeoGAF facists throwing a shitfit because the game wasn't censored enough for their delicate minds.
>steam will be added
I thought this was a vita game?
>those neogaf posts
And here I though /v/ was being a little unfair. Maybe this place isn't so bad after all.
Steam as in the mysterious magical self thinking steam that just happens to hover over nether regions and nipples to prevent the Universe from vacuuming itself.
Trust me, they are doing a service to us.
/v/'s caustic, but at least censorship is considered deplorable here.
>want to buy a vita
>shit like this keeps happening
its like fucking sony wants this thing to sink. Littreally the only apeal this thing has is the niche weeb games and their lettin it being handled by retards, it wouldnt suprise me if this completely sinks the sales.
This issue is NISA being retarded.
I don't know how or why they still exist. Mediocre programmers who introduce and/or leave bugs in the game code, shit translators that can't even spell check or have poor grammar, untranslated lines, censorship on games where the sole selling-point is ecchi, half dubs, half dubs that excise large portions of the original audio.
Like, Jesus Christ. How are they still in business?
Not really, it just irks me because this might happen to a game I DO really want to get for it
if that ever happens because theres next to nothing that isnt a port or a multiplat
>People are okay with it in Bravely Default
/v/ was throwing a shit fit about that day in and day out.
>/v/ was throwing a shit fit about that day in and day out.
Until it turned out a lot of people bought it and those who didn't because of the censorship were labelled jealous foxes who couldn't play the game to begin with, nitpickers, pedophiles, or a combination of all three.
Actual weeaboos and people not realizing any better.
>my face when I have somehow never bought a NISA game
>mfw i bought Demon Gaze before i heard about CG censorship
>all vocals from a mode being completely deleted; enough vocals to fill up a cd in japan and they change as your relationship with the girl deepens in the story
>the text, concepts, stories, and overall intent and script being sanitized for western retards
>on top of all that the images are still being censored; they only cant flat out remove images because the girls are not shown in static cg shots but animated art that reacts to the player instead.
the moralfags and people who werent going to be interested STILL arent interested or satisfied. what a fucking surprise.
pic related. its the preorder punish voice cd that came with the japnese edition of the game. headphones recommended, it says.
Same here, if only I can pirate these somehow.
It most likely wont, but you can always import. No region lock and it will most likely have a fan made guide if its a good game
I would argue that its few exclusives and "enchanced ports" warrant a purchase, but it depends on your tastes. Hope you find something you like someday, anon
Are you sure? Never heard of it being censored, /v/ would most definitely throw and shitfit and make sure everyone knew, just like right now
If /v/ is reliable on anything, its info about censoring grorious nippon gaems
>you can always import
I would if i could read jap and had a more disposable income.
>>>Hope you find something you like someday, anon.
Thanks, i do too.
Not sure if this is bait but just in case it isn't the blood was never red in Danganronpa. Hell, Danganronpa is actually one of the few games they haven't been fucking with as of late if you ignore the Genocide Jack/Jill shenanigans.
No there isn't. You're helping to rehabilitate criminal girls in hell by spanking them as you guide them through a horrible dungeon full of monsters.
Naturally, the girls gain skills and improved abilities by being spanked. Completely logical.
It's a decent game that is made above-average by the inclusion of an interactive spanking game that actually has a good reason to be there.
Don't play it expecting porn, but play it as a satisfyingly grindy dungeon crawler with a sweet ecchi frosting.
(You can look up porn of it afterwards, after deciding which of the girls is your waifu.)
But all this is assuming you bought the Japanese version. NISA is not to be encouraged.
You really don't need much Japanese knowledge to enjoy this game. The menus are in English, and the game is straightforward enough that you can figure it out with no reading ability. You'll just miss out on some of the story details. It's still fun.
The income thing, though, I can relate to. It would be nice if we could just buy translated, reasonably priced games that didn't suffer from needless censorship.
You don't have to feel bad about that. Indeed, it's better. If their sales get a massive drop AFTER the announcement, maybe they'll figure out why.
(Besides, buying the stuff they DIDN'T stupidly censor also sends a good message.)
Bravely Default wasn't a game built solely around fanservice. It sucked that it was censored, but it was still a good game.
Most of the people buying this are buying it for the fanservice, so the censorship is obviously more of a big deal.
Fuck I really wanted to play demon gaze
>Why will nobody follow XSEED's lead?
They don't want to.
The localization industry is ran by people who are uncomfortable around fanservice, as well as those who have delusions that censorship will make it appeal to a wider audience.
Just give up and learn Japanese. They'd sooner close their doors than even think of listening to your complaints.
>Where do I start?
DJT on /a/ or the Japanese threads on /int/. Both have great guides.
I watched a video of this and you people are fucking pathetic.
Only on /v/ would you find loser pathetic enough not only to buy crap like this but to want it uncensored.
NISA got the money from the game being purchased. Only if it's listed as Pre-Owned/Used (which means someone owned it previously) does all your money go to gamestop.
The gutted copies are just the last one they had on the shelf that they had to take the game out so someone not wanting NISA to get their money couldn't walk out with the game.
>Don't play it expecting porn, but play it as a satisfyingly grindy dungeon crawler with a sweet ecchi frosting.
That's just you thinking with your dick. There are plenty of good games with fan service, Criminal Girls isn't one of them, and it's quite boring.
>Neofag mod won't allow further threads on the game
And you've got Y2K in the first thread about it saying that the game should be banned.
Even though I have 0 interest in buying/playing the game (because I hate NISA/Compile Heart games), I find it hilarious that they're that devastated over "touching" drawings but have no problem with murdering people in FPSes and action games
http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=851761 <---they'll probably lock this thread and junior the OP for asking a legitimate question as well.
Is there a better game site to get news from? I'd love to go there instead of Neofag
Are these really the only games worth getting on Vita?
Serious question. I've been waiting since it's launch to pick this up, since I wanted to try out Gravity Rush and play MHP3rd again, but I've yet to see anything worth getting. It's like all /v/ talks about are the shitty moe game? That can't be all there is to Vita.
ITS TOO LATE IM FUCKING LIVID MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS 400/299 FUCK YOU ALL FUCK YOU SHITS
Okay now you're just being less reasonable and more retarded than me.
He's not wrong though, complaining about the shit on 4chan every single hour of every single day clutters up /v/ and is annoying to people who don't give a shit (read: everyone)
I don't understand... isn't the game already intended for mature audiences only? I really don't understand... what are they afraid of? GTA and other tripple A titles can get away with drug abuse, murder, soliciting of minors, racism, torture, gore and etcetera. While I understand that as these games depict all these themes, they don't avertise people on going and doing it irl, they are just trying to portray the themes as they are irl, something that the movies have been doing for decades without any problems at all. They may argue that in the case of video games, the scenes with torture/abuse let the player partake in afore mentioned activities, and that it adds a whole level of problems to the already problematic almagamation of issues, and yes, it would be a terrible thing IF THE FUCKING GAME WASN'T MEANT FOR ADULTS in the first place, who are presumably able to tell right from wrong! Jeez. (sorry for my shitty english, I'm french). This censoring shit is holding back a future in gaming which could bring even more freedom to the artists and developers...
Looks to me like the whole point of this thing is to supply erotic shit. Why would you censor the very reason it exists? Just seems fucking stupid. It's not like this will make more people buy it, it still sets off all kinds of warning flags for normals. They'll stay the fuck away either way, and people who are actually interested will get an inferior product.
Vita is pretty much anime and indies. There isn't a homebrew scene either, because all they can do is crash the PSP mode into a menu to run PSP homebrew. At that point you could save yourself a lot of grief and get a PSP for cheap and not have to worry about keeping your firmware low.
>people who support censorship
I legitimately hate these people. Like actual hate.
The reason vita failed is because all its good games are weeaboo games, and few of them get localized, and those that do get censored.
So vita has games in Japan but none in America.
Comparing NISA censorship to Bravely default censorship is like comparing a firecracker to an atom bomb. One added slightly more clothes on a few characters, the other tends to remove hundreds of CG's, mini games, etc. Bravely defaults censorship doesn't actually remove anything where as NISA likes to chop out 25% of the game.
>Supporting the censorship of anything ever
Yeah, seriously...fucking Watch Dogs has a mission where you track some asshole down to a human trafficking meat market and all the female NPCs are all strung out of their minds and walking around in nothing but high heels, and the male NPCs are talking about fucking eating them and other shit, but nobody who plays it bats an eye at what's going on.
But poking cartoon girls in their crotches to make them moan, and they never get naked or scream for you to fuck them, is too much fo some folks and means you're a pedophile and secretly harbor thoughts that you hate and want to rape all women
>showing indifference towards minor censorship is the same thing as supporting heavy censorship
NISA censorship is not minor. Things like the fortune summoners censorship was minor (and people got angry about that because it was so retarded). NISAs censorship is a thousand times what that censorship is. Removing 100's of CGs and minigames is not minor.
>caring about this shit
just stop being a fucking pathetic pedophile, it's so simple
Seriously guys-who-don't give a fuck, do you really think you're safe? That after coming for loli the SJW crowd won't come for something you enjoy?
If you're not against censorship then you're either one of the facist elites or you're a goddamn idiot and I don't see any person on /v/ being elite.
While censorship in general is bad, why in the living fuck do people care whether an anime porn video game is censored? It's not a piece of media anybody cares about. It's not a game made by craftsmen and people trying to do good work in a field they are passionate about. It's not a piece of art. It's not communicating anything. It's not important or interesting or significant. There's no culture centered around these games. It would be like flipping out over freedom and morality because somebody removed your stupid graffiti of anime tits from the side of an apartment building. It's just not an important thing.
You can get all the anime porn you want at any hour of the day anyway.
Most people on /v/ were pissed as fuck, the ones arguing for the game were saying it was stupid to boycott the ENTIRE game for a few costumes. Not that censoring was the better decision.
This is one foot away from actual hentai/child porn. Not sure how you and some posters seem to think you're arguing against censorship and in favor of artistic expression. Criminal Girls is garbage for the kind of perverted chumps Chris Hanson became a household name for exposing and humiliating.
>yfw Chris hansens show was cancelled because it was dangerous an irresponsible
Also I'd rather the game just not be localized then.
>not liking loli or hentai
Why are you even here?
I think you should get the fuck out.
>why in the living fuck do people care whether an anime porn video game is censored
1) These otakubait boob-touching games are bereft of any actual porn, and in most cases your cartoon waifus are generally consenting to it
2) They are drawings. It'd be one thing if this was live action footage of some nut grabbing a girl off a busy Tokyo street and filming themselves pulling down her pants, but crude avatars of women that can be any age the game player wants them to be are not subject to any sensible laws
3) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came... Giving censors an inch can turn into them going after larger targets later (such as the precious "game violence" Amerifats spent 40 years defending)
Except we are against censorship as a concept. US law is not preventing these games from being published. When they pass laws about lolis, that actually does matter.
Do you also blame scary, society-destroying censorship when people don't curse on prime-time cable? Are you that fucking dramatic and/or uninformed?
>other tripple A titles
I didn't said "sexualize children", I meant that some games tackle the theme of pedophilia, most of the times, as something that the villains are involved with. (Which is fine.)
Yeah. Watchdoes and GTA were awesome. You get to live the fantasy of being a vigilante or a criminal, but they also allow you to live a fantasy of a dude that likes to tear peoples limbes and blow up grannies and dogs and run people over with motorbikes. But oh god, forbit that someone makes a game about poking naked girls.
(man, really, I didn't even knew what game this was when I entered the thread. Now that I know, I guess it will be shit, with, or without censorship. I just got mad that they were trying to censor vidya)
>Why are you even here?
to remind you how pathetic you're
just die in fire you fucking virgin pedophile monster
my sister could get raped by a heartless abomination like you and your pedo buddies
>Do you also blame scary, society-destroying censorship when people don't curse on prime-time cable?
I would if said cable show was a localization of a foreign program which involved profanity, and watching the censored version was the only way for me to see it in English.
You don't seem to understand the difference between deciding to alter your own product and someone else deciding to alter your product.
to remind you how pathetic you're
just die in fire you fucking virgin murdering monster
my sister could get brutally slaughtered by a heartless abomination like you and your violent buddies
Loli will be illegal by 2017
I promise you.
Me neither, fuck that rushed censored FFV clone.
hey, looks like that censorship is really working. nisa is definitely changing people's minds who werent originally in the market, like those from neofag.
nisa is great. theyre so smart.
>game where you spank waifus gets localized
>waifu spanking gets censored
These post right here show how out of touch with reality the people on /v/ are.
It's not just the sjw crowd that's against this type of shit.Most rational people would find this shit disgusting.You should be glad we allow filth like you to even exist in are society.
>Tomoe (CV: Yumi Hara)
>Censoring the voice of a Lunarian Goddess.
Unless a miracle happens and NISA releases the game uncensored, I'm going to end up importing this game. At least it's not that expensive, just $55 on ebay.
>mfw I watched Magical madoka and vampire bund on netflix last night
Actually most people don't really care, because they are just cartoons
I hope you keep that promise
You know people who bitch about some simplistic eroge being censored are like 13 year olds complaining that there aren't enough nipples in a given issue of Maxim
Trying to make games like this out to be some high form of art that's being unjustly quashed by polictically correct businesses is making a mountain out of a molehill and only confirms what most people expect of genre fans: they're losers who care way too much about some of the most heavily commoditized games out there just because they have an unhealthy fixation on anime tits
>SJWs don't understand anything more than "Mommy, daddy, and society said this bad
it's usually more like "my trans* anarcha-feminist literature professor said this was bad"
SJWs love to talk about how shitty their parents are, "fuck you, dad" is basically their motto
The issue is games have been released before with shit like this and no one cared. They didn't censor it to avoid bad plubicity orlegal action. They censored to to appeal to the COD audience, basically. They are shitting on their target audience in order to appeal to a broader one.
This is no different than when Capcom shits all over RE or DMC to appeal to "a broader audience."
To those pretending to love censorship: Are you going to buy the game now that it IS censored? Because that was the point of the censoring. To get normalfags to buy it. If you're still not going to buy it then the entire point of the censorship has failed and did nothing but piss off the fans.
I actually agree.
People who want it that badly could just import (I hear it's a fairly linear game).
People who loathe censorship would have less to complain about.
NISA would have one less thing for people to hate them for.
It would have worked out better for everyone involved.
Funfact: Strike witches and Dance in the vampire bund are both animes that feature nude lolis and tons of fanservice. And no one cried or made a big deal about it
Neither got censored when brought to the US.
its censorship. denying people access to something is the same thing as making only the version you approve available without bullshit like importing and hacking your console (depending on how the system is set up)
I don't want to learn a Japanese but it seems like a must now considering how little the amount of the games are getting localized and the ones that gets a green light is gonna be "Americanized".
Bravely Default censorship was an overreaction since it was just two costumes. But really in this case its like ordering a burger and then getting the meat replaced with rice tofu patty because its healthier.
there is none.
>mfw i have the cd and the blindfold dlc code that came with it.
>Trying to justify the censoring of drawings and peoples voices
Oh man please save all the children who aren't going to fucking play this from drawings and lewd voices. Go back to tumblr
That thread in the OP. Holy shit.
>Would your view here also apply to a game like rapelay?
Even children play CoD. Where they commit a crime worse than rape to fictional humans literally every fucking minute they play. And no one gives a shit. But one game about having sex becomes popular and it's the end of the world.
>Don't make further threads for this game.
North Korea general.
This. Nisa is giving me too many reasons to not support them.
Never going to happen, because it will be a clear cut case of censoring the arts.
Photo's or video's of people fucking actually had to fight to be considered art before they were made legal. It's already obvious that a drawn picture is art so it's protected under free speech :)
The more you know.
You mean you let real life people know you like loli? Could you get in trouble for that?
This unfortunately. Nothing can stand in the way of sjws.
I remember three years ago when the first Neptunia was about to be released, someone posted bait on a /v/ thread. He said that NISA was censoring lewd moans and voices in the US release of Neptunia.
The irony is just sad.
>People are okay with it in Bravely Default.
Speak for yourself. I waited for the game to be localized since it was announced, even liked the japanese facebook page.
Completely ignored it when it came out.
Censorship can go fuck itself or stay contained in australia, not in my american freedoms faggot.
Guys, it's important to understand why things are being censored to preserve ratings in America.
In Japan there is an established 'otaku' culture. The game developers know for a fact that despite these games appearing to be kiddy shit, only certain people are going to buy them and therefor they can do whatever they want without fearing an increased rating.
However, American marketing/sales teams are very far behind the times in realizing this. When something that looks like kiddy shit is dropped into their laps, their immediate reaction to to try to market it as kiddy shit despite the fact that children aren't going to buy the product. So instead of letting it bump up to a T or M rating they feel the need to censor it and preserve their E rating.
One of the biggest reasons for this is probably the fact that in the west, parents buy their children M rated videogames all the time and then turn around and bitch about what content is in the games. Even if the games maintained a higher rating, the western localization team is going to probably have to deal with shitlords attacking the game for sexual content because they're too stupid to control the media their children experience. So it's much more easy and more safe to censor content and shoot for a kiddy shit rating than allow it be in for retards to bitch about.
Nobody is doing this because they're assholes or are trying to shit on the fanbase. Now I for one find it quite likely that NIS America is full of incompetent retards, but they can't help the situation they're being put in, which is localizing content that would be considered controversial in the West because Western parents can't control their own children and instead have to police everything.
>censoring freedom of expression
>tfw murica has became a cesspool for feminazis and faggots too ashamed to tell their women their actually gay and hide it with a "beard" to seem "cool" or "appealing to society"
If there is a god then please fucking kill me already,its almost sickening to know what hilarys feminazi loving ass wil do once the bitch is in office,after seeing what feminism has doe recently,it only saddens and sickens me to think what she will do....
No, not always. Sometimes. SOMETIMES they give you full dual audio.
Most times they cut out parts of the Japanese audio and put in PARTS of an English dub so that no matter which version you go with you're getting unvoiced sections, and in doing so they provide low-quality translations with horrible gamebreaking bugs for the low, low trade-off price of having half of the shit in the game stolen from you.
You realize that if 4chan were put under your theoretical social justice standards it would get shut down right?
The irony of people endorsing censorship of "degenerate or obscene" art while posting on a website that only exists because those things are protected is hilarious to me.
>In Japan there is an established 'otaku' culture. The game developers know for a fact that despite these games appearing to be kiddy shit, only certain people are going to buy them and therefor they can do whatever they want without fearing an increased rating.
>Criminal Girls is rated CERO D
Shut the fuck up.
No, you really can't get in trouble for it because there's no law banning you from saying whatever you want aside from threats of violence. I can run around saying "I AM A PEDOPHILE". There's no law against it.
There is absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop sjws. We can only hope that we'll die before a female president comes along and bans porn.
The Japanese version has an English option.
You're the idiot living in his goddamn bubble of comfort. We're not fucking overreacting, you don't understand what shit like this leads to.
Do you think mudslime countries were shit over night? Do you think European shit places like russia or some godforsaken third world country are fucked right from the start? Nope. They had vibrant economies and were centers of learning before the thought police showed.
They show up in many forms, but when they do it always turns to shit in the long run. Give the thought police imaginary children and imaginary rape and soon they'll come after your imaginary racial slurs, then they'll come after your rifhgt to not like gays or some backwards shit you like but normies frown upon.
Fuck you. Fucking think, this concerns all of us. You're not a kid anymore, don't let people you don't even fucking know or care about treat you like on.
>pedo contingent which is about as vocal and cancerous as furries these days.
Uhhh, no. The faggots who moved in thinking loli and pedo are the same thing are the ones as vocal and cancerous as furries these days.
Why anon? Do you hate me that much? You don't understand what you're doing.
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that in Japan, since just about nobody outside of the target audience is going to buy these games, it doesn't matter what rating they get. It can be an adults-only or an all-ages game without too much fear of media backlash. Why do you think eroge is so prevalent in Japan whereas in America game stores won't even stock AO titles?
Will never happen. Men won't vote for one because we all know deep down they're completely useless in positions of power, women won't vote for one because they're jealous and catty.
>Comparing NISA to Nazis
Blazkowicz here, what is the mission and where should I begin?
>With English text
This is just as baffling as the idea that Bravely Default had to be localized when For the Sequel already contained a full English translation in the fucking Japanese cartridge.
Right, but the average Joe Public doesn't realize this and you can bet their would be riots in the streets over what the average consumer would perceive as sexualized children. NIS America doesn't want to deal with that.
I'm indifferent to minor censorship like adding smoke over puffy camel toes or censoring porno moan, not complete removal. You know the scene at the end of Indiana Jones where they put smoke over the exploding head, but you could clearly tell what happened? That's what they're doing with Criminal Girls
>and you can bet their would be riots in the streets over what the average consumer would perceive as sexualized children
no there fucking wouldn't
games like this have been released intact before, nobody gives a shit, normies don't even know they exist
You can't reason with them anon. Murrica will fall.
Remember they are the forum who were so jealous that 4chan made a get well card for some Nintendo PR reps or something that they had a 20 page discussion about how we're all terrorist pedophiles and how they could copy our idea and make it superior instead of, you know, just saying "hey, that's cool" and organically deciding to send cards on their own
This is good. It's Mugen Souls all over again. All anybody knows or cares about is that the game is getting censored. More people know about the censorship than about the game itself.
It's gonna flop. Hard.
Yes, because their haven't been huge backlashes against other games with sexualized content, like Mass Effect...
These games are becoming more and more prevalent as 'journalism' sites like Polygon and Kotaku become SJW/feminist fronts.
>Being on 4chan and supporting censorship is pretty hypocritical, since moot originally made the site due to censorship.
Except your on a blue "worksafe" board where mods and janitors will delete your porn if you post it.
censoring done right
just say the girl is older without cutting loads of content
Yeah right anon. The man's weakness is the vagina. Unless we all turned gay and logical overnight we don't stand a chance. We've lost. So did the women really. They just don't know it yet.
It depended, some people who were into fanservice stuck to their guns.
However, it's easier to ignore censorship when fanservice is a quick aside rather than the selling point.
I'm obviously exaggerating when I say riots in the street, but their have been huge backlashes against games with AO or even M ratings before. Don't delude yourself, American media and consumers love a good controversy even if they have to make one up.
We live in a glorious time. Japanese games are finally dying and pedos are getting blown the fuck out. Only a matter of time until most of you scum are executed or imprisoned for life. Feels great man.
Anon I'm a normal person. I just happen to like loli. Don't we all have our weird kinds? It's not like I'd ever hurt anyone. For crying out loud anon
Why is everyone getting so uptight about the game getting censored?
If you really like the game, you'll get it regardless of the sexual content, which shouldn't be a major part of the game to you, RIGHT?
>If you were indifferent, you wouldn't post and argue with people
Nah, I'm just saying you shouldn't be so angry about it and I'm not as black and white as you. If they removed more, I would be concerned. If they kept it uncensored, I wouldn't care because the game simply isn't good. I'd be pissed about censoring good fan service games like DOA, though.
>If someone jacks off to yaoi you would call him gay
>if someone jacks off to pissing you would call him a piss fetishist
>yet if you jack off to loli your not a pedophile
You do realize that Fox News is the reason WHY there have been such huge backlashes, right?
I guess I have to make it clear that I don't support the censorship, I'm just playing devil's advocate and pointing out the circumstances that most likely are leading NIS America to making its decisions.
The games art style and girls look like shit and it's a pretty bad RPG from what Japan has said. But there might be a time when a game I do care about is censored, if you let them get away with this shit it won't stop here.
>If you really like this fanservice, ecchi, not-QUITE-porn game you'll like it just as much without the fanservice, ecchi, and not-QUITE-porn, RIGHT?
I sure did like that version of Mass Effect I played that had no guns, too.
yfw pedoism will be a sexual orientation and fully accepted in years to come
it will fucking happen thanks to those fucking degernerates, give them an inch and they take the whole yard
no? because i like my hobby and i dont want to see or have any hand in supporting things that destroy or modify negtively those things that i like.
its simple, really. plus, im not a failure as a consumer. i dont let these small companies tell me what i get.
NISA has survived to this point because for a long period of time they were one the only ones bringing over titles like this. Plus, they had Disgaea. Most importantly of all, however, was the fact that no one knew better outside of a few really hardcore weeboos.
NIS lost the Disgaea people so that's going to end up flopping, and more and more localization companies are springing up, so NISA's days are basically numbered. Especially now that it's becoming more and more clear how bad they really are.
>Japanese loli trash games are erased from existence
>the western video-game market crashes again
>devs will go back to making good games
Fuck yeah, truly a glorious time to be alive
How did NISA get the job in the first place?
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with these companies. Or how localization works in the first place.
Why would the makers of the game give their product over to be censored? Why would NISA feel the need to censor?
How could someone live with themselves, knowing that they're blemishing someone else's creative work?
>Nothing about this game is pornographic.
The moaning is, especially to a blind guy. If you didn't see the images you would assume it was hentai.
So the only reason people are interested in this game is for the sexual content?
Just go look at porn or go to exhentai or something.
Or fuck play something like MGQ or Kamidori if you really want a game you can fap to.
NIS helped develop the game. It was doomed from the start.
The utter disgrace of Disgaea D2 probably killed the western fanbase anyway. Frying people's PS3s will tend to do that.
No it won't. Being gay harms no one. Being a pedo is vile. Pure evil. No one will ever accept or support it. I hope the NSA is watching these people, they need to be castrated.
>>If someone jacks off to yaoi you would call him gay
Half the people who jack off to yaoi aren't gay.
Piss fetishist isn't a sexual orientation
and sexual deviancy doesn't work that way.
Come back when you've read rigorous literature on the subject. You literally have no excuse.
Which is what Xseed did with Senran Kagura.
Seeing how people in this thread compares 2D underaged girls to actual CP and acting like as if it was satan's bait it self, I'm surprised no one in this thread have committed suicide over the OH SO ATROCIOUS CHILD PORNORGRAPHY that are in Japanese games.
I always knew this place was eventually turning into a SJW territory.
the censorship, easily
don't get me wrong this game is trash but the fact that something which people literally only buy to get their rocks off is being censored just doesn't make sense.
Which one is the disgusting one and which is the exageration?
1. A game where you, playing the role of an assassin, have to shoot people (of all genders and ages) and take their lives, or, incapacitate them, eventually, causing the pain of loss to their families, or forcing them to live the rest their lives as handicapped, or worse (If they were real, of course). While you play the game, you experience joy, satisfaction and pleasure.
2. A game where you have to touch people's body parts (of all genders and ages), and play the role of an abuser, often causing physical and psychological pain to the people you abuse. While as an abuser you do it in persuit of personal pleasure, the act can lead your victim to a state of trauma, or cause serious mental issues, or instill a series of phobias and incapacitating or scarring your victims for life. (only if they were real, of course). While you play the game, you experience joy, satisfaction and pleasure.
Just so you know there are already some people starting to advocate for it. Some people were speaking at a UK university about how it's normal. Also a bestiality brothel opened in Germany. The slippery slope is real.
Working nightshift while my wife works as a nurse.
/v/ needs to start its own company that can localize games and publish them uncensored.
I would buy all the games and overpriced CE/LE if it meant /v/ localizing niche games like Idolm@ster or Amagami Ebikore +.
>those neofag posts
i love you guys sometimes
like when the SJW invaded us on july 4th and we spread misinfo the entire month before banned them all and /pol/ and /b/ raided them for 3 days and 3 nights
this place is one of the last bastions of the internet
That's the only game I've seen get hit by this shit that looked even remotely good in its own right but I still haven't played it on principle. I'm almost glad that I keep hearing it falls apart halfway through.
why even bother?
also the worst part is those faggot on neo-fag will NEVER buy the game even if it's censored and NISA is too damn RETARDED to realize that
No, it's been confirmed that the CEO is just ultra-conservative and insists on censoring this stuff.
Businesses don't make decisions based on possible public backlash, they make decisions based on profit or the personal beliefs of the person in charge.
>when the sexual content is the only thing worthwhile in the game then yeah, it matters
You're almost as bad that the guys who play games for good graphics alone. A song with music and shitty vocals doesn't make for a good song. Swiss chesse is has less cheese for the same price as jack. Shorts often cost the same as pants but with less material. ;=
Get a good fan service game like DOA and get the full package, and your money's worth.
>Being gay harms no one
And being a pedo or a lolicon harms no one.
>Being a pedo is vile. Pure evil.
Kneejerk SJW-style opinion of no taste.
>No one will ever accept or support it.
Wrong. All the people who like it, support it, moron.
> I hope the NSA is watching these people, they need to be castrated.
I guess I wasted my time here. Trolled me hard, friend. Or you would have, if people like you didn't actually exist here.
Im getting CGs and i played the PSP version, honestly the sexual minigames werent attractive to me at all. It was the gameplay and dungeon crawling what kept me up. The game has good enough content to playing it as a game rather than fapbait.
I didnt even got all the CGs because they werent that great. Also i fucking love chibi so it was a plus.
Topics like these shows that /v/ dont care about the gameplay just jerk off.
that would be reat
>mfw attempting to learn nip
>just started ut but im trying
>i plan to help people play the games the neer thought they would be able to playonce i finish
too bad editing text ito games is hard
I am laughing at the whole situation. Nothing was done, but everyone is in panic.
1. NISA is in panic because they think its a game about high sexual abuse, while no actual sex is present. No even vaginas or nipples. That's why they want to censor shit. But now they in panic because actual audience who want to buy the game will now not buy it at all.
2. The whole outer world is in panic because they think its a rape game where you insert penis into vagina. But actually no vaginas or penises are present. They want whole game to be banned. We know, that everyone on this planet masturbate, so everyone who thinks like that automatically are hypocrites, because of porn.
3. Fucking /v/ is in panic because they were actually caring about this shitty game, that have awful combat and the only good things about it is a punishment mode and story. There are nothing more in it at all. Its a fucking visual novel. Actual gameplay is shit. If you want to punish 2d bitches, try Custom Reido 4-5 for pc.
I am playing bunch of H games everyday in pure japanese, and see this shit. It is unbelievably laughable. Everyone lost their mind.
Today I got BD for $20 from Craigs so fuck you Square, you get no profit from me.
You pedos are giving Xseed too much credit, they would ENDUP DOING THE SAME IF THEY HAD IT.
And all all you are basing this on is a much tamer, shitty fighter they got away with CENSORING the underaged characters ages.
>When was moaning ever exclusively pornographic
When it was popularized by porno. It's a very distinctive kind of moaning, that is not same kind of moaning of a zombie or someone seriously being hurt.
>And being a pedo or a lolicon harms no one
Okay, that's it.
Nobody can be this fucking retarded.
>human garbage that jerks off to children
>can't take being called what you are
Maximum irony. You people are the scum of the earth, yet you plug your ears and go LALALALA or call everyone else shitposters when you get called out for being exactly what you are.
>/v/ starting a company and localizing a game.
Oh shit I can already imagine it. Just think of what they would do to Neptunia or any Panty Quest for that matter.
bravely default has microtransactions too
if Nintendo does it then its ok is /v/s golden rule
NISA's previous fuckups :
(Those with question marks have been rumored but cannot be entirely verified so take those with a
grain of salt)
AR TONELICO ELEMIA, MANA KHEMIA 1 and 2
o Bad string handling leading to complete crash against specific bosses (AT1, MK2) / major part of the extra dungeon enemies (MK1). MK2's crash is rather easy to avoid, though.
o MK2: Lack of testing in the extra chapter leads to crashes when doing certain tasks if Ulrika is the main character instead of Raze: Student handbook and Job post usage crash the game.
AR TONELICO METAFALICA
o Typographical errors, missing words, and shaky sentences, mistranslation of important game terms, inconsistently-adapted names
o Localization introduced or exposed game-crashing bugs in the game.
o NISA marketed the game based on sex appeal, when, in fact, AT2 was intended to be a more serious and thoughtful game, with less emphasis on cheap hooks and a greater focus on the plot, than Ar Tonelico Elemia
o In order to fit English voice acting onto the disc, they cut approximately half of the Japanese voice-acted scenes, leaving many important plot points lacking appropriate impact.
Being scared of being called what you are?
If paydos are so harmless like you make them out to be, then you shouldn't be ashamed to be called one, right?
>some dude jerking it to cartoons in his basement harms people
Who does it harm? Stupid people feelings?
>Lets link a Neogaf thread that had like 5 post to represent Neogaf because its Neogaf
besides that being stupid. I think NISA should just stop localizing anything that needs to be censored. I refuse to buy any of their games now because of this shit. Its like they don't even fucking know who keeps their shit company afloat.
AR TONELICO QOGA
o Typographical errors and untranslated text in various spots on top of their "translation" not even being remotely close to the japanese track and english voice track, what little there is, not even matching the text in some areas.
o Binary Field (DLC episodes) scam where they put out each chapter separate then a few days after a bundle pack which didn't work if you had downloaded the first episode.
o Neptunia 1 would crash on the dungeon leaderboard screen if it couldn't upload your score while you were on PSN for whatever reason.
HYPERDMENSION NEPTUNIA mk2
o Very questionable localization quality. (bad translation, unfunny jokes/lines added to several dialogues which changed the characters personalities at times)
HYPERSIMENSION NEPTUNIA V
o Very questionable localization quality. (bad translation, unfunny jokes/lines added to several dialogues which changed the characters personalities at times)
o Didn't tell the gamers idol events DLC would not be included.
o Freezing issues with some DLC.
WITCH AND 100 KNIGHT
o Game-crashing bugs (rumour about a GameFAQs user fixing everything and mailed such solution/file to NISA)
o Mediocre translation. Added jokes and nonsense to dialogue.
o PS3 overheating (Confirmed to be replicable by person who originally made the post) http://nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14425&start=90
>And being a pedo or a lolicon harms no one
I'd have to disagree with that pedo part, at least if they fuck kids it does, if you are a pedo and keep it in your head, then I suppose it doesn't hurt anyone
Giant fucking boobs and big fucking asses is considered pedo now? Go fuck a wall, you autistic faggot.
Most games where you play as an assassin, you are assassinating bad people and hurting bad people to kill bad people. Few assassin games are truly ambiguous beyond the act of putting someone to death.
The role of an abuser is explicitly bad. That makes one clear defined difference as experiences.
In particular, however, there lies just one key difference in how one is more acceptable than the other (beyond the taboo nature of sexuality within multiple cultures)-
Many, many people are sexually abused at some point in their lives. Statistically a large percentage, all things considered.
The same can't be said about being the victim of a murder.
Now with all that said, and in clarification I'm not the original anon, I almost don't care. Sure, I'd think the 2nd game would be creepy as fuck, but as it stands it's still a game. I'd much, much rather someone play some loli molestation game than actually participate in such acts. The same goes for violence, for similar reasons.
All these SJWers mad they can't sniff little girls butts.
>MUH LITTLE GIRLS
>MUH SICK LIFE
ATELIER ARLAND TRILOGY
o Name changing: Esty Erhart => Esty Dee (S T D = Sexual Transmission Disease, get it? XD)
DISGAEA 2 PSP
o They fucked up the dlc characters so they don't have voices.
o They decided not to release all the dlc characters, but released the final character, majin hinako.
o Majin hinako unlocks item book collection slots because it assumes you have the other dlc characters.
O Downloading majin hinkao means you can't complete the collection book, effectively killing anyone going for 100%
o Game-crashing SKILLS (several Fire-based)
o OPENING stops abruptly
o Fuuka and Desco were free DLC for the first month after release in Japan and Asia. Day 1 paid DLC in USA and EU.
Can kill the PS3?
Scrubbing minigame removed
Created new bugs and glitches not seen in the JP release
Massive lag during regular battles
Can fail an area load after a battle forcing you to restart from your previous save
MUGEN SOULS Z
Scrubbing minigame removed, over 120 CGs inaccessible. Basically censored extremely lazily. Excuses given were "We wanted to appeal as much to a wider demographic."
Elka introduced as the Hero of Water World when she's the hero of the Fire World
Slumbering Boss battles cause freezes in Mugen Field
BLACK ROCK SHOOTER : THE GAME
Game crashing bugs
>NISA marketed the game based on sex appeal, when, in fact, AT2 was intended to be a more serious and thoughtful game, with less emphasis on cheap hooks and a greater focus on the plot, than Ar Tonelico Elemia
>In order to fit English voice acting onto the disc, they cut approximately half of the Japanese voice-acted scenes, leaving many important plot points lacking appropriate impact.
Being a pedo will hurt someone eventually unless you are sent to jail.
Lolicon is okay but no if you are a pedo, you WILL want to apply what your learned to real girls.
A good Pedo is a jailed one.
European online store
Ridiculous prices for shipping and games, discussed that its cheaper for a european player to just have an american friend order from the american store and pay for shipping to europe
Minor Gripes :
o Names changed: Philomele Hartung => Jessica Philomele, Gunnar Damm => Flay Gunnar
(while the japanese voice track remains, making it confusing for those listening to it.)
o "Nendo" figure set released with game had a misleading promo pics of a Fuuka real Nendo figure.
(pics were changed to the actual set of figures days before release date; actual figures were well, nowhere near the quality of a real Nendo)
FAIRU FENCER F
o Names of main characters being changed.
Black Rock Shooter : The Game
Not released in Canada or Mexico due to lazy licensing
>What's wrong with playing a game solely for the graphics? Does anyone play that piece of shit Crysis for some other reason?
Frist off, is look down upon on /v/ and most game forums. Two, if game doesn't have good gameplay backing it, it's boring, and you might as well look at a visual novel, a movie, or just go to gelbooru.
You said pedo AND lolicon
Swing and a miss, weeb
>jerks off to child porn
>children don't consent to it since they are dumb underage/underdeveloped children
>another sick fuck got a kid to make said child porn
You really are fucking stupid, almost as stupid as >>252263883
Hiding their age is not the same as removing audio or editing CGs.
>get games months, if not years or possibly even decades, before the English only serfs get their hands on them
>play games never released in English
>never have to put up with censorship, new bugs, memes, translation errors or whatever in games
Why haven't you started learning yet?
Wait, is this the shit they are trying to censor?
You can't fucking see anything in those scenes, if they remove the voices then it becomes a shitty boring mini-game, hell if they remove any kind of fanservice then it becomes just a shitty game, the fanservice is what the game is all about.
>Fapbait content gets removed.
>Not getting the game.
Yes you want to jerk off, go watch some hantai and let me play the game.
>being a pedo or lolicon is the same thing as being a molester
>PS3 overheating (Confirmed to be replicable by person who originally made the post) http://nisamerica.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14425&start=90
This shit made me think my PS3 was dying on me.
I'm so glad someone from one of the threads yesterday clued me in that it is, in fact, NOT my PS3 going to the Great Emulator in the Sky but instead just another typical NISA fuck-up.
the point is the game shouldnt have even been brought over, which is probably why xseed wouldnt have released it, because they have at least some ounce of respect for their core and not ONLY for a buck.
senran dekamori very well could have been absolutely raped but it wasnt, or rather wont be.
truthfully though, since this is a nippon ichi game, no obe else would have had a chance anyway, so your statement is a shitty wash.
for the record, i wont buy any localized sk because its edited.
I started yesterday, already know the first 5 hiragana
I'm doing this primarily for the hundreds of incest visual novels that are not and will probably never be translated
Once I am proficient, I will beat my dick raw
Its the irony man, /v/ complains that SJWs are bad because of muh feelings but the they make muh feelings threads like these.
Its just so funny.
You are supporting another sick fuck for doing something fucking disgusting/illegal
As long as sick fucks like you exist, they will continue to do it
Government required castrations for pedophiles
Being a pedophile is not a crime (in America). There's more evidence to support it being a 'sexual orientation' than evidence against it, but because the masses like to kneejerk about the issue, they won't admit it.
Actually abusing children IS a crime as it should be and already is. Thoughts are not criminal.
Lolicon is NOT the same as pedophilia.
>filesharing porn supports the porn industry
>filesharing games kills the game industry
How long did It took for you to learn? I'm honestly planning to take some Basic lessons first around my area for $255 per a level.
>censoring a pedo porn game in the first place
for what purpose?
they just marginalized the only people who would pay money for it.
this goes for most jap companies doing localizations for some reason, many times they censor, radically change the writing, americanize ingame culture, or publish a worse translation than a currently available fan one.
the japs simply can't into business.
>Being a pedophile is not a crime (in America)
Except that it is
Go ahead, and keep looking at child porn.
I may jack off to a lot of porn, but the feds won't be busting my door down and raiding my apartment
Pretty sure pedophilia and being a lolicon are mental states. Their existence isn't harmful to anyone. Harmful is when they actually try and do things to children, but that's molesting or rape or sex or exposing their private parts or whatever.
Like wanting to beat up some retard from this place isn't harmful to him. I don't even know where he lives and wouldn't do it even if I knew.
Pedos are on another level. Even fucking rapists, serial killers and other high delictive inmates would fucking destroy a pedo on prison.
Fucking a little girl is worse than rape.
The former is obviously worse because feminism has taught us that when men die, their sisters, mothers, wives, and daughters are left to suffer the rest of their lives without financial support.
At least in the latter, no men are dying, so they are still expected to pay for the women in their lives.
how did you start
what tips would you leave to someone who wants to learn and has too much free time
>You are supporting another sick fuck for doing something fucking disgusting/illegal
>by jerking off in your basement
>Drawing a loli is illegal
Nope. Even if you mean actual CP, they're not supporting shit. The producers are already doing the crime and will do it anyway. Go after the actual producers who are commiting actual crimes. That'll cut off the chain to the non-violent non-crime pedos.
>something fucking disgusting
>Will never happen. Men won't vote for one because we all know deep down they're completely useless in positions of power, women won't vote for one because they're jealous and catty.
Or so you hope. I think you underestimate severely the number of mangina and white knight in clapistan.
when you kill bad people, you are causing emotional pain to their families and friends. But that doesn't matter, because they are just imaginary families and friends, and people, right? The same goes for loli molestation, as you hurt everyones feelings, but again, imaginary people. (I'm not refuting nothing that you brilliantly stated, I'm just adding another thought to the conversation)
They're releasing Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus uncensored. If you don't understand how important that is to this discussion look up literally any image of it.
Actually now that I think about it didn't SKB get a rating of T? I'm not 100% sure so if I'm wrong I'll admit that but if it was that just hurts NISA's argument about trying to avoid an AO even harder.
It is. They go hand in hand. One leads to the other without fail. One day, the porn won't be enough and you'll become just another child molesting piece of shit. Kill yourself or turn yourself in, it's the only way.
>guy said cartoons
>you said child porn
>You are supporting another sick fuck for doing something fucking disgusting/illegal
Like what? Drawing lines on a piece of paper than I then use to masturbate?
If anyone here has NeoGaf account make sure to remind all the SJWs there that the game will only get a M rating from the ESRB and will get to be on the official sony digital store
Watch them try to rationalize that shit.
Technically it was subtly censored by removing the mention of the girls ages to conform with western ideas about how fictional characters should be treated if they are underage.
>to child porn
>another guy will keep making child porn illegally
>he will keep uploading it
>you are jacking off to an underage child
Please stop man, I want to get off this retarded loop you call logic
>All pedos are not molesters
Only when they are getting monitored otherwise they have probably raped a girl already.
There is none but you should still register yourself to the gov so they can monitor your ass.
Its safer for you and the many children around you.
>NIS helped develop the game. It was doomed from the start.
Alright. I see that much now.(after some googling) But I'm still confused. How much oversight does NIS have over NISA? How can one side of the company be perfectly fine creating such material? While the other side of the same company seems to have a problem? Who convinced the Nips that it was the right thing to do, to butcher their own work for the western audiences?
Between the censorship and the game breaking bugs I am legitimately confused as to how the fuck NISA hasn't already gone out of business.
I mean I don't like their games but Disgaea and Danganronpa are the only even semi-popular things they have. They can't keep them up forever. All it takes is a lull in releases for either series and another Mugen Souls (which this is clearly shaping up to be) and they're done.
>keep looking at child porn
That's illegal. Producing is illegal. Molesting and abusing is illegal. THINKING ABOUT IT OR BEING ATTRACTED TO CHILDREN IS NOT ILLEGAL.
It's acts vs. thought.
Why are they even releasing the game if they censor it this heavily.
Is there any point to playing the game anymore. I doubt people will even buy it without the lewdness.
Besides, whats the problem with lewdness in a game for 18 year olds. They are old enough to find porn on the internet.
>post your face when a feminist tries to argue that rape/torture is a worse crime than murder
>implying most anime porn looks even remotely similar to real people
Sure, there are more realistic artists, but most loli porn boils down to simply shrinking down a regular animu girl and calling it a day
That and the whole slippery slope is retarded anyways.
Normal people don't kill others after playing shooters
Normal people don't rape others after watching porn
Those who do are usually crazy from the start and would have done it with or without
simply removing the ages from a bio is a hell of a lot better than what NISA does. And with that kind of thing I can fully believe the removal has to do with actual issues with the ESRB (I think I remember one game having to remove the mention of a character as "child" to get by) and not just self-censorship.
Give me your worst censorship comparisons.
C'mon /v/ I know there has to be something bad out there.
On that note; Amirox, I know you're probably reading this thread. In that event, you are a fucking hypocrite and a backstabber and you gain nothing by trying to pump up your own legend and pretend you were some awesome moderator. Dragona lawnmowering threads was nothing compared to the shit you got and still get away with. I can only assume that you've got blackmail pictures of Tyler stowed away in a safe deposit box and that is the only reason your self-righteous junkie ass is still infesting the forums like a malignant tumor, and will happily await the day you are disposed of, from both the forums and life.
>there are people who think jacking off in your room hurts people
yes they invaded
first they invaded /b/ who spammed them with the big guy for you meme and the mods permabanned them and applauded the posters for shitposting the right way
then they invaded /pol/ and they hitler spammed them until they got offended and left
then some stragglers came here but there threads went without 1 ost
then /b/ and /pol/ worked together and raided tumbler for 3 days and 3 nights posting jailbait porn with childrens faces edited on and hardcore scat and gore/guro
ended wth us DDOSing some sjw blogs
This post couldn't be more wrong. Hell, loli shit is banned in many states and countries for a fucking reason. And the number of places banning it is getting higher. Enjoy your denial while it lasts pedo, soon you'll be facing justice. And the scales do not favor your depravity.
Actually in reality it doesn't have to do with the ESRB.
XSEED claims they ASSUMED that it would be a problem so they changed it.
Why not try putting it through without changing it first and then revising it? What would be the harm?
The reality is that some people in the XSEED offices had moral issues with it and so decided to do it. Which is retarded, it's not a problem in the first place because they're fictional characters.
Treating this minor things like they are big moral panics is so ridiculous and a waste of a lot of people's time and energy.
The creators of the game intended the girls to be young, teenage girls. Live with it people, if you hate that you don't buy the game.
Has there ever been a localization team that prioritized accurate as possible ports?
Do you realize that this entire pedo conversation has nothing to do with actual ecchi video game called "Criminal Girls"?
Okay so if you are attracted to childen, you are going to do the following:
Try to have a relationship with a child
Try to have sex with a child
Try to get naked photos of a child
Either way, it makes you a sick fuck and rotting in a prison cell is the only acceptable answer
Because releasing poorly translated buggy games with shitty distribution costs like nothing. If there's a business case for translating text heavy PC galge without Steam distribution this is like free money.
Rape is worse than murder, you let someone scared from life and living in utter fear, if the rapist isnt caught he probably enjoys the mental torture.
When you die at least you are in peace.
I could probably beat a world war game but nothing like say Rapelay
>I can keep my own penis.
Many pedos say this and still rape little girls though.