ITT: The videogame that made you learn japanese.
Tales of Vesperia for me
Tales translation groups are lazy pieces of shit
its idol management + rhythmn + VN
considering it has survived since 2005 and you have all these secondary weaboos that only seen the animoo, yeah its bretty gud if you're into that sort of thing.
>learning a doomed language
Let's face it, in thirty years the only important languages are going to be English, German, Chinese, and Arabic.
It's too early for me to learn Japanese damn it. I have to make it through college, but one day. One day I'm sure I'll try. A pity games like this will never ever make it over here.
I'm learning japanase now mostly for jap VNs since almost everything else gets localized these days.
Yandere game by NIS or published by them I don't fucking know, they had some articles about it in Siliconera, google it.
Hispanics are going to be majority in the YouEssay in the next 30 years.
harem tengoku datomottara yandere jigokudatta
not that nigga but i learn muh kanji memorisation through karaoke, reading and vocab through muh jdm magazines (it really helps that im ching chong and can read the moonrunes), and conversational with actual jdm friends
Well, when even /v/ is talking about learning Japanese I guess it is time to do my reps.
Drop that shit as fast as you can, holy shit I tried using that and it turned out to be just a waste of time.
I'm not very far yet, just learned hiragana and katakana and learning some grammar and kanji. I also bought the Genki books, that plus Anki is pretty much my game plan.
>People were expecting the next SRW game to be Z3.2 or a standalone title.
>Instead they get Masoukishin 3 Coffin of the End
Man there was some ass pain. I thought the last MK game flopped
>tfw I am starting to naturally read japanese and it feels so good
/v/ is learning Japanese together.
Come join us niggers
It's a list of video games that made me learn, not just one.
The game itself can get pretty repetitive but the character, music and interactions are all great. Plus it sports some pretty original gameplay ideas. I wouldn't say most of the games are great but it is good.
I bet there are people out there who would want to murder me if I tell them I know Japanese and don't like SRW.
MY FUCKING NIGGA. Learning basic japanese for it right now. I'm tired of depending on fan translations and going by context clues.
I finished Z3, liked it a lot, and decided that I would for my 4th language.
I just hope they do better with the animations. Wing units got fucking shafted.
I hope Crowe comes back, potentially with his own route, Hibiki with another one (unless he gives into the Gemini influence) all culminating with one final fucking showdown with Asakim.
I learned English just by playing games but zero Japanese so far.
I would study it but I just don't see the point in learning a new language just for playing game, English at least is useful for a lot more things in life
like browsing 4chan
it helps watching jdramas with jsubs or movies with subs so you can connect. hell even fucking karaoke man in which at least you start saying it hoping you dont sound like a weaboo like avril lavigne
It isn't easy but it's not nearly as hard as most people probably think it is. Once you get past the initial hurdle and start reading it feels great.
I'd talk more but these threads always show up when I have to leave to work.
The Kanji system is a huge gaijin-block. Without exceptional memory, there is no way to achieve efficient reading (about 2000 kanji for average citizen of japan) without living there or living only in japanese.
>mfw gwailos can't handle kanjis that even 5 year olds easily know
Kanji is easy. You memorized HOW many pokemon? By name, type, and you probably know their attacks!?
AND YOU CAN'T MEMORIZE A FEW HUNDRED FUCKING WORDS?
Kanji bitch. Gotta catch em all!
I'm using WaniKani to learn kanji, but I don't really know how to start approaching grammar. With stuff like Tae Kim's guide and Genki I wind up reading a bunch all at once and then not remembering any of it. I want something that forces me to pace myself like WaniKani does for kanji.
I started for porn, the artists I like the most either get zero translations or used to get translations but not anymore.
Kanji is a lifesaver. When something uses nothing but kana it can be fucking impossible to read.
>make a pokemon rom hack
>make pokemon sprites be kanji
>make the name of each pokemon the Hiragana of each Kanji
>learn kanji the easy way.
well there's your problem, learning jdm grammar from worst korea. THE GRAMMAR IS NOT EVEN THAT FUCKING HARD AT ALL, its the most piss easy shit next to ching chong mandarin
its just subject–object–verb add particles where necessary, the rest is just tango
It tends to come more naturally, don't force it. Take it from me, I was obsessively learning literally every on and kun for multiple kanji for a week, and I forgot almost all of it.
Just read, have shit like this on hand for words you don't know www.romajidesu.com do some drills in your spare time, and watch animu. It'll all come together at some point, but be prepared to do this for years. Don't rush it, you'll just forget everything.
>Why would you learn a language for fun? You should only learn languages that have practical applications in your adult like like a real adult!
I'm learning Japanese because it's fucking fun to learn languages. I've already taken a couple years of German and Spanish.
But those don't let me play video games.
you pick costume pieces and their songs.
you dictate their weekly schedule and either send them off to do PR, training, lives, or festivals.
you take the shekels they earned and you spend them on more costume pieces
the goal is to be top idol
>Wants to learn moonspeak for untranslated video games
>Have to memorize +2000 runes alone for Kanji
>And that's not the worst part yet
Jesus fucking christ...
The runes aren't completely unique, there are common elements called radicals from which they're composed. They're not that hard to memorize, it just takes time. And as I said earlier, once you start learning, you'll love kanji. There are too many homophones in the language.
I thought we had to learn 10,000+. Well, I'm half way there at least. How do we know which ones to learn and which ones not to? I can't help but think I'm wasting my time on ones that aren't worth learning.
Japanese only needs you to know 2000 or so to be considered literate.
Japanese people that go to college generally wind up knowing like 3000.
You are their producer. You schedule concerts and training and similar things. You also pick outfits and the songs they do and everything. More fun than it sounds.
I only have Idolm@ster 2 and the first gravure game though so it could be different in the PSP games. I know All For One is like 2 though.
the psp games are im@s 1 split into 3 because not enough room for all idols on umd
shiny festa is basically shiny tv/project diva im@s edition
OFA there's no time limit to be top idol and there's RPG elements where you can learn skills or raise base stats. you can also go at it as either solo duo or trio with any of the grils
also shame on you for not getting OFA when it was released, the producer edition was worth the shekels, esp with the amiami preorder bonus. muh miki paperweight
Some useful links I have also found
Real Kana- Basically an advanced set of flash cards with Hiragana and Katakana with lots of options, like handwriting and computer style fonts to make sure you have that shit good and memorized, punk.
Quick Japanese- A resource for children with lots of useful sentences and shit. This shit is good for building grammar and vocab. It even has voice over, so fucking go over some of this shit!
Namasensei- He is a fucking ??? (nama sensei) means fucking RAW fucking REAL fucking UNADULTERATED teacher. He teaches Japanese, the basics at least, and makes it stick. Hes not for everyone, he teaches through a series of insults and drunken slurs, but if you want a great fucking motivator, check him out. ???? bitch.
You need to know enough to be polite. If you make an effort to speak japanese, the locals will usually treat you well and make an effort to speak english with you and you will be top-gaijin
Learn directions, time-related words, words related to hotels/restaurants, and words related to anywhere you're planning on going. They'll be able to tell that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about so they should go easy on you.
>How many words do natives know?
Elementary School Level: 5-20 thousand
Middle School Level: 20-40 thousand
High School Level: 40-45 thousand
College Level: 45-50 thousand
Near the bottom.
No. Just speak English very loudly while making hand gestures. Threaten anyone who acts unkindly in return with violence.
How hard is speaking Japanese compared to reading? Is learning both at once simply going to slow me down?
Bought this little motherfucker recently to learn kanji an it's been going well so far.
Only bad thing is the way the book is actually put together. The kanjis shown have no order of appearance (like sorting by difficulty or genre) and a lot of them aren't even used anymore. The autor jus didn't gave a fuck.
But in about 3 days studing for 1 hour I've been able to memorize about 80 of them little bitches, so that's good.
Trust this man
It works in every place that doesn't speak English
>tfw been learning japanese for and from porn
>tfw I know pretty much every foul and sensual term/phrase, but I can't even ask "where's the bathroom" in japanse.
>learning a language
>read intermediate level
>through the years find that countless people even below my level qualify it as "speaking the language"
>they tell everyone they can speak it, but I know they're just beginners
>that feel when almost everyone who wasn't raised bilingually was probably exaggerating throughout my life
If i'm mexican and since spanish speakers usually have an easier time learning asian languajes specially because of the pronounciation, how many monthsor years will it take me to understand enough to read mangas in jap/play vidya
>7 hours of study
Dude, that's just wasteful. I'm pretty sure that after about 2 our 3 hours you're gonna forget most of the stuff you read the very same day. You need to give your brain time to sort that shit.
Anyway, according to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Language_Learning_Difficulty_for_English_Speakers
>88 weeks (2200 class hours)(about half that time preferably spent studying in-country) And that's with an asterisc, which seems to signal it to be even harder.
But then again, that's just for english speakers. If you're anything else, it can either be easier (like it's easier to learn the pronounciation if you speak latin derived languages) or harder (if it's anglo-saxon)
>have japanese girlfriend
>have used a large amount of quotes from manga
>check both japanese and english translations to try and get meaning and context down accurately
>it actually works sometimes
>other times it's too much
>that feel when ntr fan
>I guess I don't often talk about making women cum from my semen anyway
? is for ??
? is for ??
? is for ????
? is for ???
? is for ????
Burned into my brain forever
Anki is my favorite Japanese video game.
>tfw going through 200 cards in an hour
>know around jlpt3 japanese
>still skim through japanese doujin because it probably won't make sense
>actually take a moment to read a page
>it does make sense
>mind is slightly blown
>continue to skip through pages any way because I just want to fap at the good parts
>implying story is important
cuanto tiempo llevas estudiando español?
Hey OP, if you're still here, how was the game? I haven't heard a lot about it, and trying to watch a playthrough on Youtube bored me to tears. Does it get good later?
I remember playing the first one of that series. It was a giant piece of shit.
What are you shit? I was downloading doujins off sadpanda whlie doing these.
>tfw already booked a flight and place to first place to stay for a work & travel in japan
>can only speak certain words I catched up from raping 2D girl in vidya
This gonna be fun.
well, if you're an english speaker,it is kinda difficult, anglo languajes and latin ones are pretty different, but at least you ae trying
Taking a class is pointless, you'll learn exponentially slower than you would on your own. Go read /a/'s Daily Japanese Thread FAQ to get all the resources you need, and hop in on your own time instead of paying someone to waste it.
Most people at DJT only want to read shit. And if you're American, you're doomed anyway, your pronounciation will be shit no matter what.
I dunno about shitty classes in America, but I'm really happy with the classes I got here. Universitiers are free, lecturers are native Japanese, 20 people at most per class. Great overall.
>go to japan
>everyone speaks english to you
No they don't.
Unless I tell them I'm from germany, after that they are really fucking friendly
>americans can't speak jap
Can someone explain this to me? Is it just doomed to sound like shit? Is there a name for this phenomenon?
Mainly just wanting to read untranslated moege. After 1000 words in anki I dropped that program. Ended up using ITH and TA and what grammar I know. Works for me considering I dont really have any intentions of going to japan.
Literally curious here. How did you learn Japanese? If you learned Japanese in order to import games and play them in Japanese, do you fully understand them as you would in English? Or is something missing but you get the main idea? How difficult is it to learn Japanese?
>tfw all my intentions of going to japan are history, food and
It's hard. Gotta spend a lot of time studying, especially to learn specifically how to read with 100% comprehension, unless you study nothing but japanese as a full time thing, it'll take you 1-2 years just so you can read something with the help of a dictionary.
Even though I know the pronunciation, I feel racist for sounding out katakana words. I'll still say hamburger instead of ?????? ... Feel like a douche.
I can see your average American reading that as
And so on
A better explanation, I think is like halfway between D and L. Your tongue kind of goes in the same place.
But it'd be infinitely easier to explain with audio.
I'd blame a lot of it on not actually speaking Japanese with a Japanese person. When I lived in Japan (I'm from the US), I also spent some time learning Japanese and, since I lived there, I knew a lot of natives Japanese people who helped with pronunciation. So I wouldn't say it's something that is impossible to get past, but it's really difficult if you don't actually talk to any Japanese people.
Whats a good alias I can give myself when visiting japan?
My surname is literally "Fatman"
I can't introduce myself with that name, I need a new one.
English is stiff as fuck, as far as pronounciantion goes, while japanese is a lot more flexible (even with the "only sillabes" thing). So, a lot of people just senselessly try to speak other languages like they're english, but with different words. That's where it all goes to shit.
>wanted to play a few nip only games and that was my motivation to start learning the language
>suddenly no longer motivated to play those games because my bacllog is fucking insane
>all motivation to learn the language is dropping
I wish I had adderall
A lot of americans can't roll or change their r's in ANY fucking way.
I took 4 years of french in High School. R's were the most common problem all the way through to French 4.
I know that feeling. Theres so many visual novels that come out I cant keep up. I end up finishing one and five more that interest me get released.
I found a winter friend. I hope rixia is
a great semen demon
I tried for some of the early SMT games and during the golden age of untranslated PS2 Tales games.
Realized it wasn't worth the time and didn't want to spend the money for an actual person to teach me it.
fffuuuck, that penis machinist is the reason I wanted to play those games in the first place.
>ace attorney investigations 2 and ff agito are the last straw
>time to learn japanese
>study for 3 years intensively
>live in japan
>ah maybe i can play this now
>LELEL FAN TRANSLATION IS OUT
im posting from my shitty job at the japanese high school as an english teacher
She reminds me of
frieda. Both steal too much semen.
i never learned any of my moonrunes from /a/ or /jp/
so not really?
started as an interest between games, anime and having to learn a new language in college, to study abroad in japan, to now i just want to be able to speak well enough to get women into bed and im there so i dont need to study anymore
Rosetta stone is very formal.
You need a combination of things.
>a good english-Japanese dictionary
>some imported childrens games like pokemon, and the early dragon quest games
>raw manga (for kids) helps you learn some kanji
narue no nikki
it is an obscure VN spin-off to an obscure shitty fetish game that's not going to be translated by the people who did the latter due to being "torture porn"
fuck you son my ass is torture porn swer on me m8
however i will be guided to the sunset with my dick and also with my anki decks
>not into doujin or manga.
Well correct that then and get into it. It's the whole fucking medium. There must be loads of shit you would be interested in. And once you get into doujins, you won't be able to fap to regular porn anymore.
I hear Nip ISPs are hardcore anti-pirates. Is that true?
the reason the myth about gaijin success is debated is because it still comes down to whether or not you are attractive.
if youre attractive sure its all the more easy to score, but if you arnt then no one will want to touch you
if your one of those people who thinks they cant get white women so theyll go to japan because its easy you:re wrong.
japanese women dont just crawl to you
Learn your kana, shouldn't take long.
Then simultaneously practice your kanji, vocabulary and grammar. Use Tae Kim's guide for grammar, anki to practice your kanji/vocab as well as manga/games/dorama
I thought I was the only one. Just as I got here and figured out japanese enough, that fucking game got a fan translation.
I'm working at a vidya company, though, not english teaching.
Why don't you just molest some high schoolers?
This guy nailed it. You can get by as a sort of normal looking guy, but if you are dumpy in america, you'll still be dumpy in Japan.
Go to some SEA shithole if you want women who will beg for some ugly fat white guy.
Thats what I said to myself 2 years ago. I'm still learning nip. Can't read shit though because I'm a lazy fuck ad didn't put in as much work as I needed too in those two years.
I tried to. Even started taking it at college. But I dropped out and don't really feel like continuing now. I guess there's some stuff I'll miss out on but I don't think the payoff is worth the work I have to put in.
He said 7 hours a week you fucking illiterate
Meh. The only ones who give a shit are the biggest companies, and there are smaller ones available. They do often have bullshit like bottlenecking the shit out of torrent speeds, though.
I took a class and it didn't have any obnoxious weeaboos in it. People into anime and shit, of course, but nobody was obnoxious about it.
Of course it's an outlier, no self-respecting college level foreign language course would stick to the fucking alphabet for the whole semester. We were expected to know all the hiragana and katakana within the first 3 weeks as an out-of-class assignment.
>speak at a business level, still significantly far from fluency but pretty good
>cant read jack shit when it comes to kanji
I can communicate but not read a lot. But really there isnt many times when you actually need to know or read kanji away from the computer (where you can just use rikaichan/rikaikun)
As if memorizing individual kanji isn't bad enough, then you get compound words that are ten kinds of crazy.
Like, take "swamp" ? and "mountain" ?.
When written together, they suddenly have nothing to do with the landscape but become a word meaning "many"...And that's still easy because the pronunciation stays the same, but there are many cases with completely unique readings.
How can you learn this shit?
beats me. When I see anime characters with the same name introduce themselves, but always say their names are written different ways with different kanji, it's like "nope, fuck that language"
If you have the opportunity to take japanese classes, especially at univeristy, fucking do it. Its much better than the shit you get on 4chan like le namachan and tae kim. You will actually have to produce written and spoken japanese on a daily basis and your teacher will most likely be japanese so they can directly answer any questions you have. I even had a fluent guy in there as a classmate once (long story as to why).
the people will be into games, anime etc. maybe some obnoxious ones, but after the first year or two they fade out. you will actually meet some cool people probably.
most of all if your school has a study abroad program in japan, or any country you might be interested in, fucking do it now because youll never get another opportunity to live in another country for such a period of time as a student. sure you can come teach english like i am doing now but it takes up all your time and is completely different from being at a university both learning and meeting qt`s
I'm not talking about learning yourself, I'm talking about a class. And 3 hours is a load of shit, 3 days is too. Until you can read a string of them without pausing and stammering in between every character you didn't learn them, you just memorized them.
You learn kanji. Ether from learning words, or individually. Usually those fucking compound words are the most logical part of the language. At times you get the complete bullshit ones.
It's all repetition though. Put in enough time and you will learn them.
Don't bother trying to learn kanji from names though. Those usually don't have any meaning at all so it's useless. The more rare and obscure kanji are usually used only in names so it's not really worth it to learn them.
What you do is you learn the word ??, and understand it's pronounced ????. Boom, you already know ?'s onyomi reading is taku and ?'s onyomi is san.
So next time you see ?, like in ?? (volcano) you already know how you pronounce half of it."X-??". ? means mountain and ? you learn the reading and meaning (fire).
Some words are just retarded and don't mean anything in regards to their kanji and are just unlucky, they're called ateji which is the case for ??
You memorize that shit. There's some that make sense (with warped logic, sure, but still) and some that are bullshit like that.
I guess all you do is memorize it until you eventually learn due to repetition.
>talking shit about my sensei
japan is a normal country and japanese is just a language spoken by the people who live there.
take all these presumptions and throw them out the window. dont feel guilty about learning it, especially because someone on /v/ might call you a weaboo
by the way I recommend this site as a dictionary (paired with rikaichan/rikaikun to read those fucking kanji)
you can search either english or japanese words (kana input) in the same field and it will say if its a noun, verb, etc (use rikaichan/kun) and example sentences so you can see what word youre looking for when you search something like `play` that has a billions usages
Why does he drink out of an empty salt shaker?
I like how japanese is completely fucking random. I'm priorizing the meaning before the actual reading and shit like ?? make a lot of sense. Why, a vulcan is a mountain of fire. Same with, say ??. It's rock and oil. What that makes? Petroil.
But what the fuck ?? has to do with many? How swamp and mountain relate at fucking all? Who came up with this bullshit?
>And 3 hours is a load of shit, 3 days is too.
I used a Kana Mind to learn kana.
My overall time was like 2.5 hours or something.
So yes. Three weeks is way too fucking long. A class should require you to know your kana at the end of the first week at most.
It doesn't teach grammar. It teaches "through immersion," which basically means it throws Japanese at you and shows you pictures of it.
Not recommended if you're just starting. Can be used to supplement shit you already know.
The super robot taisen, all of them, but particularly the Original Generation stuff. I tried once, learning kanas and basic kanjis, and then I realized it would take years of constant work to be able to do even getting started with the games and it demoralized me. Considering I have no other motivation to learn this ridiculous language, I decided to give up.
No particular game, I just had a fit of motivation one day and started. Since then I've mostly played untranslated puzzle games or platformers on DS and SNES. I'm not good enough for really text-heavy stuff yet but I'm getting around.
its not bad, you will just sound like a gaijin.
It has no slang, and is extremely formal and polite.
You need supplements to get sounding normal, but it will teach you grammar.
Every language has weird quirks anon.
You don't really notice all of the weird quirks of your native language because you never had to study your native language.
English has tons of nonsensical pronunciation bullshit. Meanwhile in Japanese, all pronunciation is consistent. So there you go.
you will speak it before you will read it
kanji is crazy.
it will take you years and years to get good enough to read native japanese. far after either a localization or fan translation has come out
>here is kana
>you need to learn this
>instead of just learning it, you're going to sit through ten videos of mine, each of which taking ten minutes to do about 2 minutes worth of information
My native language is portuguese. The pronounciation is spot on as well, but we have some bullshit rules.
You're right, but it still fuckup my studies. No way around it aside from memorization.
>Ctrl + F
I didn't learn it for them.
But damn, if I knew they were that good I would.
>I will show you why they call me herectic hunter
Question on that. Hiragana seems simple enough, I bought a little book and worked on studying it, memorized the letters, etc. Where does Kanji fit in? I know names and locations use it, but is it used often in games? Like, do I need to know Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji in order to play a JP game without googling shit?
Its used often. Its a necessary evil. We can only fucking hope the jap government will outlaw katakana completely in the next ten years and then start on diluting kanji.
thats how things seem to be going.
>is it used often in games? Like, do I need to know Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji in order to play a JP game without googling shit?
Depends and yes.
Games aimed towards children will use mostly or only hiragana and katakana. Older games (NES/SNES) will do this too.
Kanji is used for everthing. Nouns, verbs, pronouns, adjectives. It's everywhere and you WILL need it.
Once you start learning kanji, you'll understand how it fits in and why it's necessary.
you can't reach fluency in 3 years. It's humanly impossible even for fucking autistics.
You need to immerse yourself in the culture for at least 9 or 10 years to pick up slang and quirks an shit.
French is a fuck load harder than japanese. Trust me. I have attempted both. Got farther in japanese in a month than 4 years of french. Maybe thats me learning japanese on my own and french in school, but who knows. French a bitch.
It doesn't matter what you used if it still takes you 5 seconds to sputter out every character presented to you. As somebody who has clearly never taken a class, and instead used self-study methods, it baffles me that you think you've any knowledge on how a completely different method of teaching should be done.
>people talking about fluency in a thread about learning to play video games
Here's the thing: You will never become fluent if you don't live in Japan.
The other thing: You will never NEED to become fluent if you don't plan on living in Japan.
Everyone saying "woah you totally need to learn for at least 10 years" isn't thinking of the average /v/irgin's goal at all.
One year to play platformers and maybe Pokémon.
Two years to play average RPGs without getting hopelessly lost.
This is my deck size after almost a year of adding 20 new sentences per day. I missed some weeks of adding new cards though.
My current goal is to get 10,000 cards
after you start a few classes or read the genki textbooks, then get harder textbooks.
but if you cant quite go to japan yet then just go online and make japanese penpals/friends and just ALWAYS be talking in japanese. it will also help your social retardation /v/
affter textbooks and classes, everything I have learned has come from conversation.
dont just talk, actively think about the japanese.
and you can use rikaichan but DONT rely on it or you will never learn anything. it should be used as a last resort when you dont know something
>One year to play platformers and maybe Pokémon.
>Two years to play average RPGs without getting hopelessly lost.
but seriously this is dumb. you wont be able to play the simplest game after even 2 years unless you go full autist mode and study like 8 hours a day everyday
All I'm saying is, if I can teach myself kana in less than a week, and since kana is pretty much the first thing you should know, then spending three weeks on it is way too long.
That's almost a month.
Japanese is only hard because of the "alphabet". Everything else is a cakewalk.
French isn't that hard either IMO. Maybe that's because my native language also comes from latin, but honestly, if you learn one, you learn them all. Only hard thing I can think of, is proper pronounciation for an english speaker.
No, I understand you perfectly, and no, it's not too long. If your assumption is that we just spent all of our class time learning the kana then you would be wrong. That time was spent learning grammar, learning proper pronunciation, and words and sentences we could make using what we had learned. By the 3rd day of the second week we had done all the hiragana and were working on numbers and telling time.
>Here's the thing: You will never become fluent if you don't live in Japan.
I'm inclined to call projection in it, but it would be the wrong term to use.Still, this is stupid. One can very much be fluent in a language without needing to live in said place. I would know.
>The other thing: You will never NEED to become fluent if you don't plan on living in Japan.
This I agree 100% with.
>Most attractive in the world
As far as I'm aware, they're as normal-looking as the rest of us.
I think it's because French is fairly familiar, so I compare it to english shit too much and fuck up- Like a game of the same genre with different controls. Japanese is completely different, like a different game completely. Easier to learn because I don't keep tripping my hardwired words and conventions.
I don't know 1 year and half if you study every day.
Yeah, right now I can take JLPT2, but I was thinking that by the end of the year I can face JLPT1.
By the time the exam approaches in december I will decide though.
I played through Vesperia and was floored by the Kanji. The only thing that helped me understand it was hearing them say it. Anything that wasn't voice acted, I probably didn't understand much of it.
It's not that bad bro.
A lot of text but nothing really complex.
Leonhardt can get you on your ass though, and Olivier too
Not sure if it's been posted yet, but here is a steam group for /v/irgins who want a support group in learning nip.
There's a Let's Player I follow who's currently living in Japan.
It took him two years or so to get to the point where he could "get the gist" of JP games.
Visual novels might take you a little longer.
>implying any weeaboo is fucking idols in Japan
You have a chance with idols if you're already fucking models in the West.
Though, that's a bit of an unfair comparison. Idols are picked out specifically for their beauty and other traits that make them an "ideal female". Models, lest it be forgotten, are NOT "professionally attractive", their job show off clothes and cosmetics for the fashion industry, their selected based on how good they make clothes and cosmetics look, not necessarily for their beauty or anything else.
Maybe the newer pokemon games but the older games, and a lot of kids games have very little kanji. For learners who haven't got an intuitive understanding of Japanese grammar (these games were made for natives), having lines of hiragana and katakana without the aid of kanji makes it a lot harder.
It really depends on the time you invest.
I do like 1 hour per day of rep / read practice since a year and I can understand most spoken and written (simple) jap. Some people do several hours per day and can do it in 6 months.
>Not superior Korean women
Get on this level plebeians
>most famous idols in the entire country
Not to mention the million tons of plastic surgery common in South Korea. I mean, if you're into that then it's a perfect country for you, but it doesn't do it for me.
Isn't the Korean idol scene, like, really fucked up?
To test how much Nip you know and be able to give others a good idea of your level.
White+Jap or Korean are pretty god-tier race mixes.
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>All these yellow fever fanatics
The stark reality is that Asians know how to makeup.
Niggers need not apply
You're doing God's work anon, everyone else has shit taste.
Anyone else use raikakun?
I think the one on Firefox is Raikachan.
Its been super fucking useful picking up words, and it even does special shit like this for Kanji.
The Devil Castle Dracula X is what I got from it. It's usually titled "Devil's Castle: Dracula X", but what I'm getting out of reading it is "Devil Castle".
She looks like she's half-assedly trying to copy a Janet Jackson.